George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash

[WarriorDad]

1. No, Chicago doesn't have some of the strictest gun laws out there. That's a myth.

Yes and no.  Our gun control laws have been set back due to some reversals on the court.  One side says we have the toughest or strongest, but they are wrong.  At the same time, our laws are still strict.  As a state we rank 8th strongest with a B+ rating.  I have never seen an index of cities, but our laws are tougher than most in this country in that regard.

[Galway Eagle]

Yes and no.  Our gun control laws have been set back due to some reversals on the court.  One side says we have the toughest or strongest, but they are wrong.  At the same time, our laws are still strict.  As a state we rank 8th strongest with a B+ rating.  I have never seen an index of cities, but our laws are tougher than most in this country in that regard.

Kinda hard to enforce those laws when you have a C- and D- state only a short 45-1hr drive away. It's like banning junk food at your house and expecting your kids not to eat it at their friends house next door where it's readily available.

[warriorchick]

Kinda hard to enforce those laws when you have a C- and D- state only a short 45-1hr drive away. It's like banning junk food at your house and expecting your kids not to eat it at their friends house next door where it's readily available.

Or you have folks who don't give a crap about what the law says.  Like this judge.

[WarriorDad]

Kinda hard to enforce those laws when you have a C- and D- state only a short 45-1hr drive away. It's like banning junk food at your house and expecting your kids not to eat it at their friends house next door where it's readily available.

Great point, but does that mean our guys are more criminal in nature than Wisconsin's or Indiana's?  If guns are so easy to acquire in border states requiring a short drive from Chicago, shouldn't the murder rates in cities in those states at least be equal to ours, if not higher?  They aren't, they are actually lower. 

Chicago 23.8
Milwaukee 19.8
Indianapolis 17.7

These murder rates aren't all from guns, maybe the explains part of it?

[rocket surgeon]

at least our acid attacks are less than london.  their murder rate however,  has soared 44% mirroring that of new york city.  good thing handguns aren't allowed though, eyn'a?   #banacid... err something... there fixed it

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/acid-attack-violence-in-london-soars-by-more-than-78-per-cent-a3736516.html

[Pakuni]

at least our acid attacks are less than london.  their murder rate however,  has soared 44% mirroring that of new york city.  good thing handguns aren't allowed though, eyn'a?   #banacid... err something... there fixed it

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/acid-attack-violence-in-london-soars-by-more-than-78-per-cent-a3736516.html

You're wrong about pretty much everything here.
London's murder rate remains vastly below New York's.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44807271

[WarriorDad]

at least our acid attacks are less than london.  their murder rate however,  has soared 44% mirroring that of new york city.  good thing handguns aren't allowed though, eyn'a?   #banacid... err something... there fixed it

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/acid-attack-violence-in-london-soars-by-more-than-78-per-cent-a3736516.html

You were right, then you were wrong.  It isn't bigger than NYC, but the surge in murder rate has to be concerning to them, especially the instruments of death being used.  New York's murder rate has generally improved, London's has worsened, but that doesn't mean the hyperbole of saying it is equal to that of NYC.  London needs to figure this out.

[rocket surgeon]

You're wrong about pretty much everything here.
London's murder rate remains vastly below New York's.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44807271

well i could have used any number of sources, but i thought usatoday would be safe with you guys-

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/04/03/londons-murder-rate-higher-than-new-york-citys/480860002/

londons murder rate may have leveled off since then, but as i said-MIRRORS.  as for acid attacks, some refer to it as the "acid attack capital of the world.  india, france and bangladesh are right there too

    https://www.news.com.au/world/face-melters-the-acid-attack-capitals-of-the-world/news-story/afe10105149eac4aa0c1b7013394d4a3

     "But London is fast on the region’s heals and has, in recent times, earned the unenviable title of ‘acid attack capital of the world’. "

  knife attacks are considered attempted murder, but acid attacks are considered "GBH" whatever that is.  it's not illegal to carry one of the most common DIY weapons-bleach, sulfuric acid, drain cleaner, ammonia.  but at least they aren't carrying  guns...phew.  knives and bats and acid, etc are not only physically deforming(duh) but psychologically deforming as well as most of them have to live publicly with their injuries for the rest of their lives. 

[MU82]

You were right, then you were wrong.  It isn't bigger than NYC, but the surge in murder rate has to be concerning to them, especially the instruments of death being used.  New York's murder rate has generally improved, London's has worsened, but that doesn't mean the hyperbole of saying it is equal to that of NYC.  London needs to figure this out.

I know you don't even know what a chicos is, but he frequently argued that knives were as dangerous as guns. He also said we need to allow guns in movie theaters because, you know, what could possibly go wrong with a bunch of people opening fire in a dark room?

[rocket surgeon]

I know you don't even know what a chicos is, but he frequently argued that knives were as dangerous as guns. He also said we need to allow guns in movie theaters because, you know, what could possibly go wrong with a bunch of people opening fire in a dark room?

i think you can if the owners allow it and it ain't in a "gun free zone".  of course, a lot of good those do when some evil sob doesn't give a chit.
   you sure do miss that chicos guy, doncha

[WarriorDad]

I know you don't even know what a chicos is, but he frequently argued that knives were as dangerous as guns. He also said we need to allow guns in movie theaters because, you know, what could possibly go wrong with a bunch of people opening fire in a dark room?

OK, then that is a good thing since I do not believe knives are as dangerous as guns, nor do I think guns should be allowed in movie theaters.  I do believe London has a problem they need to get a handle on.  A 44% increase in murders for a city that size in one year is not a good thing.

[MU82]

i think you can if the owners allow it and it ain't in a "gun free zone".  of course, a lot of good those do when some evil sob doesn't give a chit.
   you sure do miss that chicos guy, doncha

You can only miss a guy who isn't here.

And even if he weren't here, he has a certain someone special who carries the torch for him.

[#UnleashSean]

In b4 the lock, and minimum wage armed guards at George Webbs.

[naginiF]

In b4 the lock, and minimum wage armed guards at George Webbs.

Since we are here....if they can't afford regular armed guards surely Kinderguardians could fill the position at a reasonable cost. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXeMoBPSDk&frags=pl%2Cwn

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Since we are here....if they can't afford regular armed guards surely Kinderguardians could fill the position at a reasonable cost. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXeMoBPSDk&frags=pl%2Cwn

”Children under 5 also have elevated levels of the pheromone
Blink-182, produced by the part of the liver known as Rita Ora.
This allows nerve reflexes to travel along the Cardi B pathway
to the Wiz Khalifa 40% faster, saving time & saving lives.”
@LarryPratt

[MU82]

Should just put toddlers with guns at each Webb's location.

Toddlers have shot dozens and dozens of people the last couple of years.

[WarriorDad]

In b4 the lock, and minimum wage armed guards at George Webbs.

Companies use minimum wage armed guards throughout this country.  Better yet, shut the doors at midnight and allow drive through only.

[WarriorDad]

Since we are here....if they can't afford regular armed guards surely Kinderguardians could fill the position at a reasonable cost. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXeMoBPSDk&frags=pl%2Cwn

The puppy pistol.  These people are insane.  When does this show air?  He is going to expose many people.

[Coleman]

Great point, but does that mean our guys are more criminal in nature than Wisconsin's or Indiana's?  If guns are so easy to acquire in border states requiring a short drive from Chicago, shouldn't the murder rates in cities in those states at least be equal to ours, if not higher?  They aren't, they are actually lower. 

Chicago 23.8
Milwaukee 19.8
Indianapolis 17.7

These murder rates aren't all from guns, maybe the explains part of it?

By this logic, how do you explain St. Louis' or Detroits' murder rate being so much higher than Chicago's?

BTW you cherry-picked the year you pulled those murder rates from. Chicago's has consistently been lower than Milwaukee's, except for 2016 when it was unusually high. 2017 and 2018 (so far) are down significantly from 2016 levels.




The bottom line is that strict gun laws don't really mean much if neighboring states are lax. Effective gun control would need to be done at a national level.

[MU82]

The bottom line is that strict gun laws don't really mean much if neighboring states are lax. Effective gun control would need to be done at a national level.

Dis is so stoopid. We needz our gunz on accounta we gotta be able 2 shoot peeple.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Companies use minimum wage armed guards throughout this country.  Better yet, shut the doors at midnight and allow drive through only.

Too bad George Webb doesn't have drive throughs.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Should just put toddlers with guns at each Webb's location.

Toddlers have shot dozens and dozens of people the last couple of years.

How many toddlers would you need to stop a George Webb robber?

[Coleman]

Or you have folks who don't give a crap about what the law says.  Like this judge.

There's always going to be people who flout the law, as well as corrupt public officials.

[MU82]

How many toddlers would you need to stop a George Webb robber?

This sounds like either one of those "How many xxxx does it take to screw in a light bulb" jokes or lyrics to a Dylan song.

How many toddlers will it take till we know ... that too many people have died?

The answer my friend, is shootin' in at George Webb. The answer is shootin' at George Webb.

[barfolomew]

How many toddlers would you need to stop a George Webb robber?

I don't know why all of you are still harboring a grudge against Mayo, but I doubt he has resorted to working night security at a low end restaurant chains.