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Author Topic: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash  (Read 17022 times)

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2018, 02:46:05 PM »
Doesn't Chicago have some of the strictest gun laws out there?


Doesn't stop this Cook County judge from carrying one and letting it accidentally fall out of his pocket:

http://abc7chicago.com/video-cook-county-judge-charged-after-gun-seen-falling-from-jacket/3743884/

Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2018, 03:42:29 PM »
We need more guns in every state.

Happiness is a warm gun.

Archie Bunker wanted to hand out guns to every airline passenger to "stop your hijackings and skyjackings."

And when was Archie ever wrong about anything?

Guns! Guns! Guns!

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2018, 03:45:56 PM »
Doesn't Chicago have some of the strictest gun laws out there?


Doesn't stop this Cook County judge from carrying one and letting it accidentally fall out of his pocket:

http://abc7chicago.com/video-cook-county-judge-charged-after-gun-seen-falling-from-jacket/3743884/



1. No, Chicago doesn't have some of the strictest gun laws out there. That's a myth.
2. Conceal carry has been legal in Illinois for more than four years. I suspect you knew that. The judge had a license to do so.
3. But he's in big trouble because concealed guns aren't allowed in a courthouse.

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2018, 03:54:26 PM »
What are the stats if you take out hunting-related deaths?

There was one hunting-related death in Wisconsin in 2016. There were 664 gun deaths that year.
So, my limited math skills tell me that taking out hunting-related deaths won't make much of a difference.

https://dnr.wi.gov/files/pdf/pubs/le/LE0006_2017.pdf

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2018, 04:06:40 PM »
There was one hunting-related death in Wisconsin in 2016. There were 664 gun deaths that year.
So, my limited math skills tell me that taking out hunting-related deaths won't make much of a difference.

https://dnr.wi.gov/files/pdf/pubs/le/LE0006_2017.pdf

What is you take out suicides?

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2018, 04:17:31 PM »
What is you take out suicides?

Why would we do that? One of the leading factors in successful suicide is the availability of a gun.

"By state or region…for every age, for both genders, where there are more guns, there are more total suicides."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK223849/

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2018, 04:55:27 PM »
Doesn't Chicago have some of the strictest gun laws out there?


Doesn't stop this Cook County judge from carrying one and letting it accidentally fall out of his pocket:

http://abc7chicago.com/video-cook-county-judge-charged-after-gun-seen-falling-from-jacket/3743884/



Actually, Chicago doesn't.

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2018, 04:58:05 PM »
We need more guns in every state.

Happiness is a warm gun.

Archie Bunker wanted to hand out guns to every airline passenger to "stop your hijackings and skyjackings."

And when was Archie ever wrong about anything?

Guns! Guns! Guns!

'Merica!!!!!!!!!!!

PEW PEW PEW


I have a friend from France and he told me literally the entire world has a running inside joke about our country that anytime anyone mentions the USA the other person does this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EPFDCuyYvY

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2018, 05:00:08 PM »
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« Last Edit: July 11, 2018, 05:06:26 PM by Coleman »

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2018, 05:16:38 PM »
PEW PEW PEW


I have a friend from France and he told me literally the entire world has a running inside joke about our country that anytime anyone mentions the USA the other person does this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EPFDCuyYvY

  maybe they should hand this joke out to all the illegals coming into our country

 bout as funny as that wolf girl-yikes
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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2018, 06:39:52 PM »
We need more guns in every state.

Happiness is a warm gun.

Archie Bunker wanted to hand out guns to every airline passenger to "stop your hijackings and skyjackings."

And when was Archie ever wrong about anything?

Guns! Guns! Guns!

'Merica!!!!!!!!!!!
It's spelled Murka ya damn hippie!
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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2018, 08:17:43 PM »
Why would we do that? One of the leading factors in successful suicide is the availability of a gun.

"By state or region…for every age, for both genders, where there are more guns, there are more total suicides."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK223849/

Because the discussion is about gun violence. Not self infliction. That is a whole mental health problem.

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2018, 08:25:35 PM »
PEW PEW PEW


I have a friend from France and he told me literally the entire world has a running inside joke about our country that anytime anyone mentions the USA the other person does this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EPFDCuyYvY

Anytime I met a new person in England one of the first questions asked was if I had any guns.

Back to the original topic, as a late night food aficionado, the only place I've seen security at a 24 hour joint is at the IHOP at Howard and Western. Rogers Park people could probably attest to that.

So I don't know how logistical security is at late night dining establishments.

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2018, 09:31:32 PM »
look what happened to this poor dude trying to stop a guy running out of his store(academy sports) with a .40 caliber and some ammo-they fired him(assistant mgr) for detaining/putting his hands on perpetrator(against store policy)until police got there-wow!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/11/academy-sports-manager-fired-weeks-after-intercepting-gun-thief-suspect-in-florida-store-lawyer-says.html
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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2018, 10:07:46 PM »
look what happened to this poor dude trying to stop a guy running out of his store(academy sports) with a .40 caliber and some ammo-they fired him(assistant mgr) for detaining/putting his hands on perpetrator(against store policy)until police got there-wow!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/11/academy-sports-manager-fired-weeks-after-intercepting-gun-thief-suspect-in-florida-store-lawyer-says.html

I'm not sure he should have been fired, but the policy is pretty standard. Employees shouldn't be putting themselves in harm's way during a robbery.

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2018, 05:06:09 AM »
I'm not sure he should have been fired, but the policy is pretty standard. Employees shouldn't be putting themselves in harm's way during a robbery.

i can agree, but is this a rules are rules thing? 

   sure didn't take them long to fire him.  i don't know this guys history, warnings etc, but he quite literally saved some lives.  i wish the cops at the stoneman douglas school shooting would have had 1/2 the testosterone of this guy. 
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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2018, 09:00:33 AM »
Because the discussion is about gun violence. Not self infliction. That is a whole mental health problem.

A full response here would be overly political, but yes, suicide by firearm is gun violence. And it is categorized as such by the CDC, WHO and every other organization that tracks causes of death.
The notion that suicide is something other than gun violence is a lie that's been told to you by the gun lobby that wants you to believe that owning a gun makes you safer, when all empirical data says otherwise.

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2018, 09:13:14 AM »
A full response here would be overly political, but yes, suicide by firearm is gun violence. And it is categorized as such by the CDC, WHO and every other organization that tracks causes of death.
The notion that suicide is something other than gun violence is a lie that's been told to you by the gun lobby that wants you to believe that owning a gun makes you safer, when all empirical data says otherwise.

Is intentionally OD’ing on pills “pill-violence”?
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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2018, 09:36:13 AM »
Is intentionally OD’ing on pills “pill-violence”?

If the discussion were about the overprescription of drugs of abuse, you bet.

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2018, 09:39:32 AM »
Is intentionally OD’ing on pills “pill-violence”?


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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2018, 11:46:35 AM »
Is intentionally OD’ing on pills “pill-violence”?
Also a crisis that needs to be addressed.    But it is ok to take steps to address this one.  I clean up after both.  Guns are a little more definitive.  We sometimes save the pill takers.    And pill takers don't usually take others with them.  Shooters frequently do.
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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2018, 02:05:37 PM »
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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2018, 02:51:07 PM »
Why would we do that? One of the leading factors in successful suicide is the availability of a gun.

"By state or region…for every age, for both genders, where there are more guns, there are more total suicides."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK223849/

What if we take out all of the people shooting themselves or others?

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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2018, 06:18:07 PM »
  "A full response here would be overly political, but..."

      sully?  got this one?   ;)
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Re: George Webb incident up in Milwaukee yesterday? Backlash
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2018, 07:53:29 PM »
A full response here would be overly political, but yes, suicide by firearm is gun violence. And it is categorized as such by the CDC, WHO and every other organization that tracks causes of death.
The notion that suicide is something other than gun violence is a lie that's been told to you by the gun lobby that wants you to believe that owning a gun makes you safer, when all empirical data says otherwise.

Well, at least the CDC is permitted to study gun violence...
« Last Edit: July 12, 2018, 08:19:54 PM by jesmu84 »

 

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