Wojo's seat

[cheebs09]

I'd rather be in Wojo's seat than Gard's. Working for an AD with a huge ego that was backed into hiring you in the ugly departure of your predecessor. That will be an interesting one to watch if he doesn't turn the ship around.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

He ain't your Cuz, amigo!

He ain't your amigo, chum!

[warriorchick]

He ain't your amigo, chum!

He ain't your chum, bub!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

He ain't your chum, bub!

Who you calling bub, missy?

[mug644]

Who you calling bub, missy?

That lady ain't no missy, dude!

[bilsu]

Wojo's first recruiting class included 4-star PG Traci Carter.
Wojo's second recruiting class included 4-star PG Markus Howard.

Howard is a shooting guard. He be a one star point guard, if he shot the ball like Derrick Wilson.

[bilsu]

I'd rather be in Wojo's seat than Gard's. Working for an AD with a huge ego that was backed into hiring you in the ugly departure of your predecessor. That will be an interesting one to watch if he doesn't turn the ship around.

I agree with you on this. Gard deserved the Wisconsin job, but he was also forced on them by Bo. Gard is gone, if he misses the tournament two straight years.

[Pakuni]

Howard is a shooting guard. He be a one star point guard, if he shot the ball like Derrick Wilson.

And he'd be a 5-star center if he were a 7-footer who 50 percent from three.
Your point?

[GGGG]

Howard is a shooting guard. He be a one star point guard, if he shot the ball like Derrick Wilson.

Howard is a combo guard who likely will be running point next year.

[mu03eng]

Who you calling bub, missy?

Who you calling missy, fella?

[🏀]

He ain't your Cuz, amigo!

He ain't your amigo, chief!

[Galway Eagle]

He ain't your amigo, chief!

He ain't your chief, mate!

[MU82]

Howard is a shooting guard. He be a one star point guard, if he shot the ball like Derrick Wilson.

And he'd be a 5-star center if he were a 7-footer who 50 percent from three.
Your point?

Exactly.

No offense, bilsu, but statements like yours are silly - which maybe is what you were trying to be.

What matters is that Markus doesn't shoot like Derrick ... thank goodness!

[skianth16]

I agree with you on this. Gard deserved the Wisconsin job, but he was also forced on them by Bo. Gard is gone, if he misses the tournament two straight years.

If this is the case, and if this is really how results-driven the UW admins and AD are, is that too aggressive, or is that an attitude worth emulating? I would imagine that many Scoopers would think that a 2 year window is way too aggressive, but at the same time, I wonder if UW would be willing to give him the 5-6 years that so many on the boards here feel is needed for a new head coach.

[Galway Eagle]

If this is the case, and if this is really how results-driven the UW admins and AD are, is that too aggressive, or is that an attitude worth emulating? I would imagine that many Scoopers would think that a 2 year window is way too aggressive, but at the same time, I wonder if UW would be willing to give him the 5-6 years that so many on the boards here feel is needed for a new head coach.

I highly doubt Wisconsin snags a good coach if they get rid of Gard. They aren't a basketball school, they're in a small unattractive city, they play an unattractive brand of basketball and have a known dbag as an AD.

[Galway Eagle]

I hope you are right, but Madison is an attractive college town and they have a great campus. A new coach would determine what kind of style they play and they play in a major power conference. Barry won't be there forever and there are enough people that respect him. They would get a good high level coach.

I agree the new coach would be able implement his own system but Wisconsin doesn't exactly have a bunch of high major recruits that are adaptable to run and gun. It'd be a really really rough first year or two.

[hairy worthen]

I agree the new coach would be able implement his own system but Wisconsin doesn't exactly have a bunch of high major recruits that are adaptable to run and gun. It'd be a really really rough first year or two.

That's true, they would have to find a coach that can adapt to the players he has available to recruit or recruit other markets.

[skianth16]

I hope you are right, but Madison is an attractive college town and they have a great campus. A new coach would determine what kind of style they play and they play in a major power conference. Barry won't be there forever and there are enough people that respect him. They would get a good high level coach.

I would agree with this. I hope basketball coaches wouldn't view them as a desirable option, but I think UW could probably make the sale to a lot of people. Madison has its perks, the university as a good reputation, and the basketball program has been better than average in a good conference. If I was part of the program, I'd expect to land a quality candidate.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If this is the case, and if this is really how results-driven the UW admins and AD are, is that too aggressive, or is that an attitude worth emulating? I would imagine that many Scoopers would think that a 2 year window is way too aggressive, but at the same time, I wonder if UW would be willing to give him the 5-6 years that so many on the boards here feel is needed for a new head coach.

Two different situations. Wojo was an outsider who was given a dumpster fire and has made slow progress every season. We can also look ahead and see that the next two seasons will be great on paper at least.

Gard was an insider who was given a team that was expected to be a top competitor for at least the next two years. Badger fans are looking ahead and they see a 2018 recruiting class with 2 low three star recruits (one of whom is a walk on) and their highest rated recruit since Dekker decomitting. The future is a little more cloudy. And fair or not, the manner in which Gard got the job changes the expectations a little bit.

All that being said, I think it is premature for Gard's seat to get warm. A step back should have been expected this season with four starters graduating. They have a lot of losses but they are all to quality teams. The only "unacceptable" loss was the 25 point beatdown at home by Ohio State. Even if they miss the postseason this year, they have zero seniors and should be in a for a bounceback year. Now if that doesn't go as well.....then I think Gard's derriere starts to get a little sweaty. 

[DCHoopster]

Two different situations. Wojo was an outsider who was given a dumpster fire and has made slow progress every season. We can also look ahead and see that the next two seasons will be great on paper at least.

Gard was an insider who was given a team that was expected to be a top competitor for at least the next two years. Badger fans are looking ahead and they see a 2018 recruiting class with 2 low three star recruits (one of whom is a walk on) and their highest rated recruit since Dekker decomitting. The future is a little more cloudy. And fair or not, the manner in which Gard got the job changes the expectations a little bit.

All that being said, I think it is premature for Gard's seat to get warm. A step back should have been expected this season with four starters graduating. They have a lot of losses but they are all to quality teams. The only "unacceptable" loss was the 25 point beatdown at home by Ohio State. Even if they miss the postseason this year, they have zero seniors and should be in a for a bounceback year. Now if that doesn't go as well.....then I think Gard's derriere starts to get a little sweaty.

The Wisky team next year may or may not have Happ, 5th year senior.  I really do not see him coming back.  If he does not, they have nothing to hang there hat on.
Bo really left a good team to Gard last year, but now he has a junior class that it very weak.  He maybe in a lot of trouble moving forward.  Not getting Herro, or what
I heard took the scholarship away from him, and Bo not giving Sam a scholarship was a huge mistake.  NO Sam, no Joey.  It is not like this state is full of D1 players.
MU will move in to a new building that will be first class, it will impress some of upcoming high school kids as well.  Gard will  has bigtime work in the future.  Style is boring as well.  Good luck.

[bilsu]

Exactly.

No offense, bilsu, but statements like yours are silly - which maybe is what you were trying to be.

What matters is that Markus doesn't shoot like Derrick ... thank goodness!

I was not trying to be silly. I posted that Wojo has trouble recruiting point guards, which I found surprising since he was a all-American point guard. I know Howard can play the point guard position if needed, but he is a not a true point guard. The poster also pointed out that Wojo recruited Traci Carter. Carter was a true point guard, but Wojo decided to start Hani over him at point, so how good was Carter who could not beat out a fellow freshmen that was more suited for small forward than he was at point? I have been attending MU games since 1962 and have seen many great point guards. Howard is the best pure shooting guard we have ever had. I am really impressed by his ability this year to drive and make the 2 point shot, which is a significant improvement over last year. He is not a point guard by nature and he is out of position when he plays there. Just like Sam is out of position when he plays the four or subs in at center.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

yup, agree on all counts. Except nothing compares to Bryan/College Station

Ha! On gameday maybe.

[1SE]

Warmer than it was yesterday.

[wadesworld]

Warmer than it was yesterday.

Thankfully the people that make those decisions are smart enough not to look at a single game result and be influenced whatsoever by it.

[tower912]

It has gone from 0 Kelvin to 1 Kelvin.