Wojo's seat

[MU82]

In other threads, the warmth of Wojo's seat is again a topic of conversation.

I get it, I really do. We all want Marquette to be not just good but great, Wojo is in Year 4, we seem to be taking a step backward after a general upward trend, many of us are frustrated, he doesn't seem to have command of his huddles, we keep making the same mistakes, etc, etc, etc.

But I'm curious to know what the "or else" is.

In other words, let's say we lose the next two games - a mid-major Vermont at home, and on the road against an obviously mediocre-at-best F&cky team. Dozens of Scoopers will declare Wojo's seat to be hot - or at least saying they think it should be. Some might even say something like, "If we don't improve, and quickly, Marquette has to consider going another direction."

Or else what? You will withhold contributions to the MU general fund until Wojo is fired and a "real" coach is hired? You won't use your season tickets for the rest of this season and won't renew for next season? You will refuse to buy any MU gear until we make the NCAAs again? You will email Lovell and/or Scholl to complain - multiple times if you feel you're not being heard? You will go to games and boo the team mercilessly? What?

Over the last couple of years, I have seen comments from some folks and have responded with the one-liner, "Or else what?" I was clearly being snide. I'm not being snide here. I genuinely want to know what actions folks who are frustrated beyond the pale are prepared to do.

Thanks in advance.

[4everwarriors]

Go out ta dinner, read a book, talk to humans, invest the bread in somethin' that'll appreciate, hey?

[wadesworld]

This year:

Rowsey/Howard
Howard/Elliott
Anim/Cain
Hauser/Cain/Anim
Heldt/John/Hauser

Next year:

Howard/hopefully a grad transfer
Elliott/Anim/Bailey
S Hauser/Cain/Bailey
J Hauser/Morrow/S Hauser
Morrow/Froling/Heldt/John/Eke

His seat is ice cold if for no other reason than we upgrade gigantically in talent and depth next year. If we aren't a top 6 seed in the NCAA Tournament next year his seat warmer should be going on. And that team only graduates Heldt.

[4everwarriors]

Barry said Paul saved da program. Perhaps we knead a water walkin' dude, hey?

[NickelDimer]

This year:

Rowsey/Howard
Howard/Elliott
Anim/Cain
Hauser/Cain/Anim
Heldt/John/Hauser

Next year:

Howard/hopefully a grad transfer
Elliott/Anim/Bailey
S Hauser/Cain/Bailey
J Hauser/Morrow/S Hauser
Morrow/Froling/Heldt/John/Eke

His seat is ice cold if for no other reason than we upgrade gigantically in talent and depth next year. If we aren't a top 6 seed in the NCAA Tournament next year his seat warmer should be going on. And that team only graduates Heldt.

Agree with this. The jury is adjourned this year. Next year is a different story

[Tugg Speedman]

Agree with this. The jury is adjourned this year. Next year is a different story

+1

revive this thread near the end of NEXT season

[AZWarrior]

This year:

Rowsey/Howard
Howard/Elliott
Anim/Cain
Hauser/Cain/Anim
Heldt/John/Hauser

Next year:

Howard/hopefully a grad transfer
Elliott/Anim/Bailey
S Hauser/Cain/Bailey
J Hauser/Morrow/S Hauser
Morrow/Froling/Heldt/John/Eke

His seat is ice cold if for no other reason than we upgrade gigantically in talent and depth next year. If we aren't a top 6 seed in the NCAA Tournament next year his seat warmer should be going on. And that team only graduates Heldt.

Do you predict Howard will be an effective point guard?

I seem to recall him having difficulty bringing the ball up against pressure.  Maybe I'm wrong on this.  I hope I'm wrong on this.

We may have increased talent and depth next year, but without an effective PG we will not have an effective offense, especially against pressure.

[muguru]

In other threads, the warmth of Wojo's seat is again a topic of conversation.

I get it, I really do. We all want Marquette to be not just good but great, Wojo is in Year 4, we seem to be taking a step backward after a general upward trend, many of us are frustrated, he doesn't seem to have command of his huddles, we keep making the same mistakes, etc, etc, etc.

But I'm curious to know what the "or else" is.

In other words, let's say we lose the next two games - a mid-major Vermont at home, and on the road against an obviously mediocre-at-best F&cky team. Dozens of Scoopers will declare Wojo's seat to be hot - or at least saying they think it should be. Some might even say something like, "If we don't improve, and quickly, Marquette has to consider going another direction."

Or else what? You will withhold contributions to the MU general fund until Wojo is fired and a "real" coach is hired? You won't use your season tickets for the rest of this season and won't renew for next season? You will refuse to buy any MU gear until we make the NCAAs again? You will email Lovell and/or Scholl to complain - multiple times if you feel you're not being heard? You will go to games and boo the team mercilessly? What?

Over the last couple of years, I have seen comments from some folks and have responded with the one-liner, "Or else what?" I was clearly being snide. I'm not being snide here. I genuinely want to know what actions folks who are frustrated beyond the pale are prepared to do.

Thanks in advance.

This is exactly what I intend to do...I'm just tired of the program "spinning it's wheels". Honestly, If it weren't for so many losses at home the last few years(to teams they are better or equal to), I might feel differently, but that's the part that is beyond frustrating to me.

[muguru]

+1

revive this thread near the end of NEXT season

And there it is...the "wait till next year" mantra that's been stated numerous times here.

[We R Final Four]

start a poll?

[tower912]

Cool as a cucumber. 

[Goose]

Win or lose, Wojo is not going anywhere.

[wadesworld]

Do you predict Howard will be an effective point guard?

I seem to recall him having difficulty bringing the ball up against pressure.  Maybe I'm wrong on this.  I hope I'm wrong on this.

We may have increased talent and depth next year, but without an effective PG we will not have an effective offense, especially against pressure.

That was the worry and why I hope for a grad transfer at PG. If we can bring that in then he plays the same roll as he has his first 2 years. Start off the ball and be a secondary ball handler.

I was VERY worried about his ability to play the PG effectively early in the year. He has looked capable lately though. But it would still be, in my opinion, the biggest concern for next year if it's Howard backed up by Elliott.

[Dr. Blackheart]

How's Greg Gard's arse?  Maybe Bo will come back from Exile Island, like Fulmer?

[GooooMarquette]

Go out ta dinner, read a book, talk to humans, invest the bread in somethin' that'll appreciate, hey?

Bingo, Doc!

[WarriorDad]

Coach Wojo is what Marquette needs.  Super young team, nice class coming in, new building next year.  They will be picked as a top 3 team in the conference next season.  Still should surprise a few teams this season, but may lose a few games they shouldn't.  Lack of depth, youth = mistakes.

[GE911]

Coach Wojo is what Marquette needs.  Super young team, nice class coming in, new building next year.  They will be picked as a top 3 team in the conference next season.  Still should surprise a few teams this season, but may lose a few games they shouldn't.  Lack of depth, youth = mistakes.

This sounds like something a DePaul fan would say.

[WhiteTrash]

Win or lose, Wojo is not going anywhere.

According to you, Wojo can go 0-28 and not loose his job. Since when is he coaching 4th grade soccer?

Since I'm new here, maybe I misunderstood what you are saying. Is your statement an indictment of the MU AD and president? I am not "in the know" about MU's administration and it's expectations for the flagship program of the university but I find it hard to believe that any institution in the Big East would be indifferent about the performance of it's basketball team.

For the record, I feel that Wojo, short of a disaster season (less than 10  wins) should be here next year and hopefully more.

[MU82]

This year:

Rowsey/Howard
Howard/Elliott
Anim/Cain
Hauser/Cain/Anim
Heldt/John/Hauser

Next year:

Howard/hopefully a grad transfer
Elliott/Anim/Bailey
S Hauser/Cain/Bailey
J Hauser/Morrow/S Hauser
Morrow/Froling/Heldt/John/Eke

His seat is ice cold if for no other reason than we upgrade gigantically in talent and depth next year. If we aren't a top 6 seed in the NCAA Tournament next year his seat warmer should be going on. And that team only graduates Heldt.

wades, nowhere did I say Wojo is or should be on the hot seat. I don't think he is. I am just curious about what those who feel his seat should be hot are "doing" about it.

guru being guru, he said what he will do - basically, stop acknowledging the existence of Marquette basketball until it's "fixed." Not sure I totally believe him because, based on what he's said for years, he'd be lost without MU hoops. But maybe.

I like knowing what's going on in the noggins of my fellow Scoopers.

[wadesworld]

wades, nowhere did I say Wojo is or should be on the hot seat. I don't think he is. I am just curious about what those who feel his seat should be hot are "doing" about it.

guru being guru, he said what he will do - basically, stop acknowledging the existence of Marquette basketball until it's "fixed." Not sure I totally believe him because, based on what he's said for years, he'd be lost without MU hoops. But maybe.

I like knowing what's going on in the noggins of my fellow Scoopers.

I know. I'm saying that even if Wojo doesn't deserve our faith, the talent next year is undeniable with the obvious need of a PG that can contribute right away. Even if people think Wojo is hopeless, it's worth seeing how next year goes. And then next year Heldt is our only graduating player, so the year after next should be even better.

This year is going to be frustrating. We're small and thin. Cheatham leaving was a big blow for this year. But if we can pick up a PG in the offseason it could help us in the long run. I think the early departure of players expected to contribute is an issue and is certainly partly on Wojo. It's why MU is not where they should be right now. But next year I'm of the belief MU will be where we should be.

[Lennys Tap]

In other threads, the warmth of Wojo's seat is again a topic of conversation.

I get it, I really do. We all want Marquette to be not just good but great, Wojo is in Year 4, we seem to be taking a step backward after a general upward trend, many of us are frustrated, he doesn't seem to have command of his huddles, we keep making the same mistakes, etc, etc, etc.

But I'm curious to know what the "or else" is.

In other words, let's say we lose the next two games - a mid-major Vermont at home, and on the road against an obviously mediocre-at-best F&cky team. Dozens of Scoopers will declare Wojo's seat to be hot - or at least saying they think it should be. Some might even say something like, "If we don't improve, and quickly, Marquette has to consider going another direction."

Or else what? You will withhold contributions to the MU general fund until Wojo is fired and a "real" coach is hired? You won't use your season tickets for the rest of this season and won't renew for next season? You will refuse to buy any MU gear until we make the NCAAs again? You will email Lovell and/or Scholl to complain - multiple times if you feel you're not being heard? You will go to games and boo the team mercilessly? What?

Over the last couple of years, I have seen comments from some folks and have responded with the one-liner, "Or else what?" I was clearly being snide. I'm not being snide here. I genuinely want to know what actions folks who are frustrated beyond the pale are prepared to do.

Thanks in advance.

My "or else" is simple - I'll continue to become less interested. I was a fanatic in the Al years, first as a student, then as a young alum. Never missed a home game, traveled often to see the Warriors. Still rooted for the team in the dark days of Dukiet but only made the Chicago to Milwaukee trip e few times a year. KO got me back on the bandwagon and Buzz got me to make the Chicago to Milwaukee trip 18 times a year again. Now I watch on TV. Still really want our guys to win but I can't get as excited over mediocrity as I do over excellence. OTOH, I'm not emailing the president or the AD about it. If they think Wojo is "the one" I'll wait a couple more seasons hoping they're right.

[LAZER]

Coach Wojo is what Marquette needs.  Super young team, nice class coming in, new building next year.  They will be picked as a top 3 team in the conference next season.  Still should surprise a few teams this season, but may lose a few games they shouldn't.  Lack of depth, youth = mistakes.

I doubt the Top 3 conference pick next year.

[Class71]

Win or lose, Wojo is not going anywhere.
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The administration thinks Wojo walks on water, win or loose since he give the  team the right image?  I assume winning games is, shall we say, secondary? 

[The Lens]

The way we talk with our most spending in college stuff, I think he should be gone.  But I also believe in guys getting better. So I actually think that Wojo will improve.  And unless we hire Buzz, we're going to regress. 

[Dawson Rental]

The truth is, I don't think MU has much of a chance of finding a coach who is so much better than Wojo that its worth another year of no/practically no recruits as the recruitis that Wojo has for whatever year he's replaced scatter to the winds after he is let go, and the rebuilding process starts all over again.

To get to the next level what this program needs is some Freaking stability.

People forget how almost every school that lets its coach go starts out the the hunt for a replacement with very high expectations only to find that hiring away a top coach is much more difficult then it used to be.  How many schools thought they could get Buzz? Shaka? Marshall from Wichita?  There are no more McGuires from a Belmont Abbey who are building programs where their team plays all away games because they have no home court.

I like knowing what's going on in the noggins of my fellow Scoopers.

In my case, I believe its spyders spinning webs.