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[rocket surgeon]

What about not following the flag code? If it's so disrespectful to have a peaceful protest during the anthem, I bet you hold the flag code in highest respect and wouldn't tolerate anyone disparaging it, right?

I'm talking about the national anthem, while being played before games.  Once again, focus!

As far as disallowing anyone to protest?  Ummm, no!  Once again, Decorum during the national anthem.  They can protest their ya-ya's off out in front of the stadium, where ever.  How about this one then? What if they protested at a memorial for MLK?  Let them handle that one.  Let them protest during an LGBT event

[Pakuni]

I'm talking about the national anthem, while being played before games.  Once again, focus!

Could we have a list of instances when you believe it is OK to disrespect the flag and when it is not?

As far as disallowing anyone to protest?  Ummm, no!  Once again, Decorum during the national anthem.  They can protest their ya-ya's off out in front of the stadium, where ever.  How about this one then? What if they protested at a memorial for MLK?  Let them handle that one.  Let them protest during an LGBT event

Protests of MLK would never happen ... well, except when entire states refused to acknowledge the national holiday in his honor.
Same with during an LGBT event ... well, except when anti-gay protestors show up routinely at pride parades.

[jesmu84]

I'm talking about the national anthem, while being played before games.  Once again, focus!

As far as disallowing anyone to protest?  Ummm, no!  Once again, Decorum during the national anthem.  They can protest their ya-ya's off out in front of the stadium, where ever.  How about this one then? What if they protested at a memorial for MLK?  Let them handle that one.  Let them protest during an LGBT event

So, instead of deflecting, would you like to answer my question now?

[Jockey]

Could we have a list of instances when you believe it is OK to disrespect the flag and when it is not?

Definitely OK when used as a backdrop while grabbing your daughter's a$$

[tower912]

My wife just announced that we are boycotting Papa John's.    So proud. 

[Hards Alumni]

So, instead of deflecting, would you like to answer my question now?

Didn't you know, you can only protest at designated times in designated locations, comrade?

Hope this didn't need teal

[Jockey]

My wife just announced that we are boycotting Papa John's.    So proud. 

Man up, Tower. That's your decision to make

[tower912]

I have veto power.   I only use it to avoid getting a pet.  This amuses me.  And it shows that loyal customers can react negatively when public figures whine and/or take a stand the customer doesn't like.  Right?

[rocket surgeon]

So, instead of deflecting, would you like to answer my question now?

you are the one deflecting-we are discussing protests during the national anthem.  then you ask about flag code and if i follow the code absolutely to the "T" or something.  once again...i'm talking about the national anthem.  if you want to discuss everyone's personal attitudes toward and decorum, that would be another topic with when did you stop beating your wife

"peaceful protests"? i'd love for all protests to be peaceful...just not during the national anthem-simple. 

[rocket surgeon]

Could we have a list of instances when you believe it is OK to disrespect the flag and when it is not?

Protests of MLK would never happen ... well, except when entire states refused to acknowledge the national holiday in his honor.
Same with during an LGBT event ... well, except when anti-gay protestors show up routinely at pride parades.

i see what you're doing there-

but re:protests during MLK or LGBT events?  well what if i'm upset with the people disrespecting the national anthem and choose those events all over the nation to protest?  fair is fair, eyn'a?  might as well fill in the blank with any other event opposing the "other side" and i'm bringing a jimmy johns truck with me

[tower912]

Psssst....you messed up the punch line.  Papa Johns, not Jimmy Johns, rocket surgeon.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

My wife just announced that we are boycotting Papa John's.    So proud. 

Huh, I guess I've been boycotting Papa John's since college

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Rocket, what if someone wanted to honor fallen soldiers by kneeling during the anthem? Would that be acceptable?

[reinko]

i see what you're doing there-

but re:protests during MLK or LGBT events?  well what if i'm upset with the people disrespecting the national anthem and choose those events all over the nation to protest?  fair is fair, eyn'a?  might as well fill in the blank with any other event opposing the "other side" and i'm bringing a jimmy johns truck with me

Well that is your right as an American citizen to go do that protest, and while I may disagree with how you are doing it, I believe you have that right, and have it not be infringed upon.  Also, I would the President would not call your mom a bitch if he didn't like it, and demand that you lose your job over it.

Honestly.

[rocket surgeon]

Rocket, what if someone wanted to honor fallen soldiers by kneeling during the anthem? Would that be acceptable?

Key word-honor. Also, typically when that is done, they will announce it as a moment of silence before or after the anthem.  At least that's how I've experienced an moment of honor.  So what are these athletes honoring today?

[rocket surgeon]

Psssst....you messed up the punch line.  Papa Johns, not Jimmy Johns, rocket surgeon.

Wait,  no wonder mine is always late and cold...damn!

[jesmu84]

you are the one deflecting-we are discussing protests during the national anthem.  then you ask about flag code and if i follow the code absolutely to the "T" or something.  once again...i'm talking about the national anthem.  if you want to discuss everyone's personal attitudes toward and decorum, that would be another topic with when did you stop beating your wife

"peaceful protests"? i'd love for all protests to be peaceful...just not during the national anthem-simple.

Wrong. Here's your original post that I quoted:

The anthem stands for something to MOST people.  On the field, there is a decorum that is expected during the anthem, God bless America, presenting of the colors, a moment of silence for someone, etc.  not acting within that decorum is considered disrespectful-period.  Whatever it is that they claim they are doing is backfiring.  The commish and the owners did not lead when this first started out and this is what happens.  I don't care if 50%(and that's very high and generous)  agree with it.  You just lost the other half of your audience/ customers-not many businesses can afford to do that very often

I bolded the important part. You included much, much more than just the national anthem in your example of when there is to be "decorum" and if people do not act "with that that decorum" it "is considered disrespectul." In fact, you even explicitly mention presenting of the colors. That is literally the flag itself.

Adhering to the flag code should be part of that process that you state is so important. If someone stood before a game and altered the national anthem, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't think that was very respectful.

So, because you brought up that the whole pomp and circumstance of the important moments before/during games or whenever they present in life.... do you think adherence to the flag code is important? It's a simple yes or no.

[MU82]

Third verse of the avowed racist Francis Scott Key's poem:

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

No wonder our Racist In Chief (and his sheeple) thinks it is the holy song.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Key word-honor. Also, typically when that is done, they will announce it as a moment of silence before or after the anthem.  At least that's how I've experienced an moment of honor.  So what are these athletes honoring today?

I was just curious if it was the act of kneeling or the message behind the kneeling that was bothering you.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I hope Jen Lada makes the cut, hey?

[MU82]

I was just curious if it was the act of kneeling or the message behind the kneeling that was bothering you.

Kaepernick went from sitting to taking a knee at the suggestion of a Green Beret last year:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-nate-boyer-got-colin-kaepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/

In the 49ers' final preseason game, backup quarterback Colin Kaepernick decided to kneel for the national anthem instead of taking a seat on the bench.

Turns out it was former Seahawks player and Green Beret Nate Boyer who talked Kap into making the change. Boyer wrote an open letter to Kaepernick earlier this season, and it caused the two to meet up and discuss America and honoring the anthem.

On the upcoming episode of HBO's "Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel" (airing Tuesday night at 10 p.m. ET), Boyer reveals what happened in the discussion between the two men.

"We sorta came to a middle ground where he would take a knee alongside his teammates," Boyer says. "Soldiers take a knee in front of a fallen brother's grave, you know, to show respect. When we're on a patrol, you know, and we go into a security halt, we take a knee, and we pull security."

Asked by Gumbel if Kap was "receptive" to his ideas, Boyer described him as "very receptive."
"Very receptive. He said, 'I think that would be-- I think-- I think that would be really powerful,'" Boyer recalls. "And, you know, he asked me to do it with him. And I said, 'Look, I'll stand next to you. I gotta stand though. I gotta stand with my hand on my heart. That's just-- that's just what I do and where I'm from.'"

The two met and took a picture together, but Boyer wasn't willing to take a knee.

Boyer also got called many names for his decision to stand next to Kaepernick during the anthem.

Only dipshytes like You Know Who suggest that Kaepernick is being disrespectful of the military or of veterans. The truth is, a veteran suggested he do it - and then got shyte from some true "patriots" for it.

[forgetful]

http://www.businessinsider.com/yum-ceo-nfl-protests-havent-hurt-pizza-huts-sales-2017-11

Hmmm...so Pizza hut, which started a vigorous price war with Papa John's this year, is doing fine, but Papa John's who was late to compete in the price war lost business.

Isn't that how economics is supposed to work?

[Jockey]

I still don't get the God Bless America thing. I ain't doin' it for no one.

God isn't ours to claim, Unbeknownst to "christians" in America, we are all God's children everywhere.

If they want to change it to God Bless the World, I will be all in.

[MU82]

Hmmm...so Pizza hut, which started a vigorous price war with Papa John's this year, is doing fine, but Papa John's who was late to compete in the price war lost business.

Isn't that how economics is supposed to work?

Again, maybe pizza eaters are boycotting the douchenozzle who owns Papa John's.

And I'm with brand ... there is zero chance of me standing during God Bless America.

[jesmu84]

Hmmm...so Pizza hut, which started a vigorous price war with Papa John's this year, is doing fine, but Papa John's who was late to compete in the price war lost business.

Isn't that how economics is supposed to work?

No. It's how disrespecting 'Murica and the flag and the soldiers is effecting Papa John's stock price