Interesting Day Ahead...

[Newsdreams]

Agreed.  I've thought all along this could be pretty big.

People don't see how good the FBI is at following the money that is their specialty. Then they go for the easy kills, tax evasion, interstate commerce fraud or something along those lines (once you use Internet cellphone), bribery/ blackmail.

[Newsdreams]

Not singling you or anyone else but what the hell has happened to our society?  Over the years attorneys and other vendors have done FAR MORE for me than buy me a simple lunch.  NEVER ONCE was my determination of which firm I retained for a particular matter influenced in any way by some perceived perk.  Never once was it ever expected by them either. 

We've done everything from the circus with the entirety of both families in a United Center skybox to courtside seats for the Bulls to Packers/Bears tickets to whatever.  All very standard vendor/client stuff with associates I did business with for decades.  Lunch?  Like I said, what the hell has happened?

One time in my career I certainly exceeded the internal guidelines (with the full blessing of our HR Department and my CEO.)  I still remember our CEO telling me to have a great day and that it was a once in a lifetime experience but to be careful and prudent in my decisions about hiring this particular vendor too often going forward.  I took his advice to heart and the nature of the professional relationship between our two organizations didn't change.  What did I do?  I got on a charter plane at 6am and day tripped to the Masters.  Freakin' awesome.

Glow I understand where you are coming from, but a lot depends on industry and ethics. As an engineer when I'm a resident engineer Inspecting a project I can't accept anything  from concractor would be conflict plus goes against ethics of the Engineering Association (College of Engineers).

[VegasWarrior77]

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Think about this: 3,000 hours of wire tap-intercepted calls involving college BB coaches. 3K.
This is so far from over, it's ridiculous.

Ed is a journalist for the Las Vegas Review-Journal and co-host of a local radio show here in Vegas.  I respect his opinion.

[WarriorDad]

Why? I asked in the other thread. Are there examples out there of immediate punishment? If this is a legal issue with the feds, that takes time. If it's an NCAA violation, that takes time in committees and such.

Tucson paper calling for Miller ouster immediately and not participation in Pac 12 and NCAA Tournament.  That's how bids open up.

http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/basketball/greg-hansen-arizona-s-program-has-gone-way-out-of/article_55cfad32-540d-5fca-b26e-9af3aacc6c5b.html

[jesmu84]

Tucson paper calling for Miller ouster immediately and not participation in Pac 12 and NCAA Tournament.  That's how bids open up.

http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/basketball/greg-hansen-arizona-s-program-has-gone-way-out-of/article_55cfad32-540d-5fca-b26e-9af3aacc6c5b.html

Maybe I wasn't clear earlier.

I was coming at it from an NCAA or FBI punishment perspective. Based on those 2 organizations, I do not believe either would have the time to go through the correct procedures to hand down punishments for this year's NCAA tourney.

Self-punishment is, obviously, completely different.

So, let's assume no universities do anything on their own. Do you believe, in that case, that any bids would open up this year?

[WarriorDad]

Based on Crean's heritage with Izzo, and two of Crean's assistants at one time working for him at Indiana that are named, I'd say Mr. Crean might have some splain'n to do. 

[WarriorDad]

Maybe I wasn't clear earlier.

I was coming at it from an NCAA or FBI punishment perspective. Based on those 2 organizations, I do not believe either would have the time to go through the correct procedures to hand down punishments for this year's NCAA tourney.

Self-punishment is, obviously, completely different.

So, let's assume no universities do anything on their own. Do you believe, in that case, that any bids would open up this year?

I agree with your view that it will take time to go through the process the NCAA has and bids would not open this year, but my contention is still that bids open up because schools will take action on their own in the form of self punishment this season.

USA curling is keeping me up late.  Not sure how much stamina I have left.  Good night.

[VegasWarrior77]

As bad as the Arizona hoops program looks, their football program has issues too:

Arizona Wildcats football players gang-raped female students and staffers, amended lawsuit claims
http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/football/arizona-wildcats-football-players-gang-raped-female-students-and-staffers/article_85a85b6c-c54f-5604-8b98-c4a7f9d90bb4.html

[fjm]

3,000 hours of wire tapping?

I love MU and I feel like our program is pretty clean. But 3,000 makes me nervous.

[GB Warrior]

People don't see how good the FBI is at following the money that is their specialty. Then they go for the easy kills, tax evasion, interstate commerce fraud or something along those lines (once you use Internet cellphone), bribery/ blackmail.

This is exactly right. They find leverage and they don't play their hand too early. And they don't "trap" you into making a false statement. And theyll repeat that and flip people up and up the chain. Miller is a big fish, but there's lots more to come.

[mileskishnish72]

I wish I could be found guilty of a major violation at work and still be guaranteed over $2 mil a year for the next four years even if I got fired for it.

[4everwarriors]

Nice noin' ya, Sean. Adios motherfooker, aina?

[Knight Commission]

When all is said and done I hope we will see fewer recruits following Assistants to new programs.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

When all is said and done I hope we will see fewer recruits following Assistants to new programs.

You mean like Markus?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Based on Crean's heritage with Izzo, and two of Crean's assistants at one time working for him at Indiana that are named, I'd say Mr. Crean might have some splain'n to do.

You can aks your pal Fred Glass.

[4everwarriors]

Kollege athletics, like sew many udder thin's, is won ginormous cesspool, hey?

[Newsdreams]

I wish I could be found guilty of a major violation at work and still be guaranteed over $2 mil a year for the next four years even if I got fired for it.

You'll probably blow almost all of it on lawyers

[Jockey]

This is exactly right. They find leverage and they don't play their hand too early. And they don't "trap" you into making a false statement. And theyll repeat that and flip people up and up the chain. Miller is a big fish, but there's lots more to come.

They may not "trap" you, but they will ask a lot of questions that they already know the answer to.

Federal law includes up to 5 years in prison for lying.

[Dish]

Sean Miller will not coach tonight against Oregon.

[forgetful]

Sean Miller will not coach tonight against Oregon.

That is pretty big news.  Arizona may be trying to be proactive and hope to avoid crippling long term sanctions.

Will Ayton be playing?  Otherwise it kind of rings hollow.

[Ardmore Mug]

Yes.  AZ said Ayton will play tonight. 

[Tugg Speedman]

That is pretty big news.  Arizona may be trying to be proactive and hope to avoid crippling long term sanctions.

Will Ayton be playing?  Otherwise it kind of rings hollow.

as I posted in the other thread, this is the way Pitino was cut loose.  Miller was effectively fired today.  They are negotiating a severance to prevent a lawsuit,  Expect his firing to be formalized in a few days.

[GooooMarquette]

They may not "trap" you, but they will ask a lot of questions that they already know the answer to.

Federal law includes up to 5 years in prison.

Exactly. They usually know the answers to most of the questions they ask. As soon as you deny doing something they can prove you did, you're toast.

"But coach, this email you sent last year says...."

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Somebody F-ed up big time on his contract.   Miller gets more $ if he is fired for cause than if his is fired without cause.

[GGGG]

Somebody F-ed up big time on his contract.   Miller gets more $ if he is fired for cause than if his is fired without cause.

There's some dispute if people are reading the contract correctly.