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MU82

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 06, 2017, 08:27:30 AM
It used to be people in the spotlight trying to call attention to the issues of racism and police brutality in this country. Now it's become about the POTUS calling players SOBs, millionaire athletes disrespecting veterans and an owner's poor choice of idioms being misconstrued. In other words, it started off with an important message and has devolved into basically a big, controversial mess of nothing, which is very unfortunate.

Please provide links showing evidence of millionaire athletes disrespecting veterans.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: MU82 on November 06, 2017, 09:57:52 AM
Please provide links showing evidence of millionaire athletes disrespecting veterans.

That's what the perception has become. The original message of the protests has been completely lost.


MU82

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 06, 2017, 10:06:08 AM
That's what the perception has become. The original message of the protests has been completely lost.

OK, MM ... I obviously misconstrued your earlier post. I thought you were ripping on athletes for disrespecting veterans; from my reading, just about all of them have gone out of their way to say how much they respect veterans.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 06, 2017, 09:49:12 AM

Knot so fast, bro. Ya got rules in yo workplace? Great, wee all due. Now, if you don't like dem rules, ya can ether knot take the job, quit, or intentionally disobey said rules. Ya got the freedom ta due whatever yo pee pickin' heart desires. However, der are consequences four one's actions. Kaperdick et al can wanna exorcise der America rights under the Constitution. Perfect baby, now deel wit the result of yo actions and stfu, ai na?

Wait, so are you saying that there are rules in the USA that minorities are allowed to be victims of police brutality?  I'm really confused here.

Yes, my workplace has rules.  Just like the NFL has rules.  Neither my workplace nor the NFL say that one must stand for the playing of the National Anthem.  Nor do either have rules saying police brutality is okay if it's directed at minorities or anything that these players are protesting.  So I'm not sure what you're saying here...

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 06, 2017, 09:49:12 AM

Knot so fast, bro. Ya got rules in yo workplace? Great, wee all due. Now, if you don't like dem rules, ya can ether knot take the job, quit, or intentionally disobey said rules. Ya got the freedom ta due whatever yo pee pickin' heart desires. However, der are consequences four one's actions. Kaperdick et al can wanna exorcise der America rights under the Constitution. Perfect baby, now deel wit the result of yo actions and stfu, ai na?

Vry smrt person not understand meening of collushun, ai na?

4everwarriors

All contracts for professional athletes have a "code of conduct" clause. Under that broad veil is where embarassing the team or conduct unbecoming of a professional athlete would fall. Had Roger nipped this at the very onset, it is a non-story.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

GGGG

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 06, 2017, 01:29:44 PM
All contracts for professional athletes have a "code of conduct" clause. Under that broad veil is where embarassing the team or conduct unbecoming of a professional athlete would fall. Had Roger nipped this at the very onset, it is a non-story.


There is no such clause in NFL contracts.  It is subject to the CBA between the league and the union.

MUBurrow

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 06, 2017, 01:29:44 PM
All contracts for professional athletes have a "code of conduct" clause. Under that broad veil is where embarassing the team or conduct unbecoming of a professional athlete would fall. Had Roger nipped this at the very onset, it is a non-story.

Wouldn't those be between the team and the athlete, taking Roger out of the equation?

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 06, 2017, 01:29:44 PM
All contracts for professional athletes have a "code of conduct" clause. Under that broad veil is where embarassing the team or conduct unbecoming of a professional athlete would fall. Had Roger nipped this at the very onset, it is a non-story.

NFL rosters include guys who've beaten wives and girlfriends, been caught driving drunk, been arrested for assaulting police officers, convicted of possessing illegal drugs, found to be using performance-enhancing drugs and more.
And yet the thing you find "conduct unbecoming of a professional athlete" is kneeling?
What interesting priorities you have.

Oh, I mean .. Dat's sum intersting pry-orotees youse got, ai na?

4everwarriors

The clause is present and nowhere did I say I condone all the other acts of supidity.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

GGGG

There is no "Code of Conduct" clause in an NFL contract.  Here is the template:

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1573683/000104746913009713/a2216998zex-10_3.htm

There are statements within clauses like:

"He agrees to give his best efforts and loyalty to the Club, and to conduct himself on and off the field with appropriate recognition of the fact that the success of professional football depends largely on public respect for and approval of those associated with the game."

and

"...or if Player has engaged in personal conduct reasonably judged by Club to adversely affect or reflect on Club, then Club may terminate this contract."

No team is going to use that type of language to enforce something that isn't actually a rule. 

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on November 06, 2017, 02:22:49 PM
NFL rosters include guys who've beaten wives and girlfriends, been caught driving drunk, been arrested for assaulting police officers, convicted of possessing illegal drugs, found to be using performance-enhancing drugs and more.
And yet the thing you find "conduct unbecoming of a professional athlete" is kneeling?
What interesting priorities you have.

Oh, I mean .. Dat's sum intersting pry-orotees youse got, ai na?

Love this post.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Pakuni on November 06, 2017, 02:22:49 PM
NFL rosters include guys who've beaten wives and girlfriends, been caught driving drunk, been arrested for assaulting police officers, convicted of possessing illegal drugs, found to be using performance-enhancing drugs and more.
And yet the thing you find "conduct unbecoming of a professional athlete" is kneeling?
What interesting priorities you have.

Oh, I mean .. Dat's sum intersting pry-orotees youse got, ai na?

He's not wrong

jesmu84

How did AJ Green not get suspended?

Jockey


4everwarriors

Furst thin' we've agreed on. Hundley and da rest suck ass, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on November 06, 2017, 02:22:49 PM
NFL rosters include guys who've beaten wives and girlfriends, been caught driving drunk, been arrested for assaulting police officers, convicted of possessing illegal drugs, found to be using performance-enhancing drugs and more.
And yet the thing you find "conduct unbecoming of a professional athlete" is kneeling?
What interesting priorities you have.

Oh, I mean .. Dat's sum intersting pry-orotees youse got, ai na?

Hell, Jerry Jones' roster has included most of those types since he's owned the Cowboys, including his star tailback this year. But it's those dreaded anthem-kneelers he keeps threatening to bench.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 06, 2017, 08:35:11 PM
Furst thin' we've agreed on. Hundley and da rest suck ass, ai na?

Probably ever :)

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on November 05, 2017, 05:21:29 PM

I do not respect his opinions regarding the NFL.

I do not agree with him on the issue but I respect his opinion.

I agree with you on the issue, but I don't respect your opinion regarding his opinion.

tower912

It is still the Lion's.  They can find a way to lose it.  4-12 for the Packers?  No.  Huntley will get comfortable.  9-7 is still possible.  Tricky, but possible.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

wadesworld

Quote from: tower912 on November 06, 2017, 08:51:47 PM
It is still the Lion's.  They can find a way to lose it.  4-12 for the Packers?  No.  Huntley will get comfortable.  9-7 is still possible.  Tricky, but possible.

There is 0 chance the Packers get 7 wins with Hundley under center the rest of the season, let alone 9.  Best case is 2 more wins for the Pack.

tower912

I am seeing tools from Hundley.   Needs line help.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: tower912 on November 06, 2017, 09:09:56 PM
I am seeing tools from Hundley.   Needs line help.

That's a pretty sad comment. It's the first time the entire line has been intact all year.

tower912

Maybe it is happy feet.  He is getting to the bottom of his drop and if the ball is still in his hands, he starts scrambling.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GGGG

Hundley just isn't good. He may grow to become serviceable. That's about it.

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