NFC North / NFL Thread 2017-18

[MU82]

Part of the reason I got on the Jags & Panthers for taking RB's in the top 10 was case in point with the Jags.

I allow that you very well might be right about taking RBs so high. McCaffrey has been a good pass-catcher out of the backfield for the Panthers but his overall impact on the offense has been negligible. And yes, they very well might have been able to get somebody as good later.

IIRC, the disagreement that we had was that you said teams wouldn't take RBs that high.

[Dish]

I allow that you very well might be right about taking RBs so high. McCaffrey has been a good pass-catcher out of the backfield for the Panthers but his overall impact on the offense has been negligible. And yes, they very well might have been able to get somebody as good later.

IIRC, the disagreement that we had was that you said teams wouldn't take RBs that high.

Yes, I was wrong. I both thought they shouldn't take them that high, and didn't think they would. I just look at the Jags and think if they had a good QB, they'd be so close. Fournette has been great, but I can't see Bortles winning a game in January.

[tower912]

That was really uncalled for tower-Chico's experienced a very tragic loss, tried to make amends to whoever was offended by him.  For you to re-open that very personal wound was cruel to say the least.  Your sarcasm, as it comes across here, hit me right in the chest.   I guess I expected a little more from you, but not as much from our bloke overseas. 

For you guys to continue to accuse Chico's of being combativly argumentative in a negative way is dishonest.  The bottom line is he provides a viewpoint many of you disagree with-fine, but leave out the character assinations please and just move on or put him on ignore.   He has provided some great references to the topics discussed here and some alternative perspectives at that.

Ok, now unleash the, but you said...context people, context.

Thank you.  I believed his contrition at the time.   And I still believe he meant it.  That he has now returned to his previous ways is a sign of healing.

[rocket surgeon]

Thank you.  I believed his contrition at the time.   And I still believe he meant it.  That he has now returned to his previous ways is a sign of healing.

Ok, I realize this is way off topic but the subject of Chico's continues to come up, but to resurrect his moment, a very very emotional one at that, is like going for the jugular; it just takes the wind out of ya.

    It'll be interesting to watch how the nfl rules on that bears touchdown pass.  Combine that one with Detroit's a week or so ago and it might be time to check some bank records

Now, back to Chico's, with the exception of him returning under other guises despite being banned is really a tribute to this blog and how it could be.  It really is a great venue of mostly MU peeps.  Compared to most, we do try to police each other and reign it in.  The way I see it is so many people couldn't handle Chico's opposition counterpoints, especially if it veered political.  He is not repub or dem, he is honestly for the truth.  But when that goes against some here, the pack comes out and tries to back him(as well as others) into a corner.  Well, what do most do in this instance?  They fight back.  Then the vitriol starts flying and it's usually the guy throwing the second punch who gets nailed.  As for the "ban hammer" I had a hard time with that as there have been others who by the same standards should have had the same.  Chico's didnt get personal to the point of throwing obscenities at others like one under paid attorney whose posts were the most cringe-worthy

There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with others here, but so many times it gets personal.  Much of that is a carry-over from the politics section.  Like a golfer, we must have short memories in order to converse here or don't converse at all.  If one were to put their bias blinders on, Chico's post, although provocative, represented a nice opposition to others and that is what we want on a healthy board even though many of us, myself included, have veered toward the personal on occasion.  As long as that is recognized and corrected, no harm, no foul  Eyn'er?

Ya have to admit however that 4/5 posts have been very informative from his perspective to say the least. Not only have his posts been tame, but he has backed off many challenges to his opinions and his person. I do think we can all be the good people that MU espoused,  while exhibiting some push back without getting personal.  Show me any other blog that can be half as civil as this one

Sorry-I just saw this getting a little out of hand, now back to our regularly scheduled shows

[tower912]

RS, I disagree with your assessment of causality.  These attitudes did not form in a vacuum.  There is a reason for the bannings.  Personal attacks.  There was a reason he felt he needed to apologize during his heartbreak.  There is a common, unifying theme and only a small part of it is politics.

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

Ok, I realize this is way off topic but the subject of Chico's continues to come up, but to resurrect his moment, a very very emotional one at that, is like going for the jugular; it just takes the wind out of ya.

    It'll be interesting to watch how the nfl rules on that bears touchdown pass.  Combine that one with Detroit's a week or so ago and it might be time to check some bank records

Now, back to Chico's, with the exception of him returning under other guises despite being banned is really a tribute to this blog and how it could be.  It really is a great venue of mostly MU peeps.  Compared to most, we do try to police each other and reign it in.  The way I see it is so many people couldn't handle Chico's opposition counterpoints, especially if it veered political.  He is not repub or dem, he is honestly for the truth.  But when that goes against some here, the pack comes out and tries to back him(as well as others) into a corner.  Well, what do most do in this instance?  They fight back.  Then the vitriol starts flying and it's usually the guy throwing the second punch who gets nailed.  As for the "ban hammer" I had a hard time with that as there have been others who by the same standards should have had the same.  Chico's didnt get personal to the point of throwing obscenities at others like one under paid attorney whose posts were the most cringe-worthy

There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with others here, but so many times it gets personal.  Much of that is a carry-over from the politics section.  Like a golfer, we must have short memories in order to converse here or don't converse at all.  If one were to put their bias blinders on, Chico's post, although provocative, represented a nice opposition to others and that is what we want on a healthy board even though many of us, myself included, have veered toward the personal on occasion.  As long as that is recognized and corrected, no harm, no foul  Eyn'er?

Ya have to admit however that 4/5 posts have been very informative from his perspective to say the least. Not only have his posts been tame, but he has backed off many challenges to his opinions and his person. I do think we can all be the good people that MU espoused,  while exhibiting some push back without getting personal.  Show me any other blog that can be half as civil as this one

Sorry-I just saw this getting a little out of hand, now back to our regularly scheduled shows

GMAFB.

[wadesworld]

Has chicoloops' 16th personality suddenly been outed here or...?

[jesmu84]

Has chicoloops' 16th personality suddenly been outed here or...?

Certainly seems that way

[tower912]

RS is not one of CBB's aliases.  He is a facebook friend.

[tower912]

In actual football related discussion, the Lion's showed themselves to be pretenders last night.  Should have run a QB sneak from the one.   Nearly 500 yards in total offense, 15 points.

[mu03eng]

In actual football related discussion, the Lion's showed themselves to be pretenders last night.  Should have run a QB sneak from the one.   Nearly 500 yards if total offense, 15 points.

Tho Prater is the only thing holding my fantasy team together after losing Rodgers, so take solace in that

A tangent, I am so mad about how craptacular the NFC North is. The 6-2 Vikings have to be the most garbage 6-2 ever. A health Rodgers and the division would have been wrapped up by the end of November. Terrible.

[JWags85]

In actual football related discussion, the Lion's showed themselves to be pretenders last night.  Should have run a QB sneak from the one.   Nearly 500 yards in total offense, 15 points.

Or how about the draw on 3rd and goal from about the 4-5.  Just baffling stuff in the Red Zone from them.

[MU82]

Ok, I realize this is way off topic but the subject of Chico's continues to come up, but to resurrect his moment, a very very emotional one at that, is like going for the jugular; it just takes the wind out of ya.

    It'll be interesting to watch how the nfl rules on that bears touchdown pass.  Combine that one with Detroit's a week or so ago and it might be time to check some bank records

Now, back to Chico's, with the exception of him returning under other guises despite being banned is really a tribute to this blog and how it could be.  It really is a great venue of mostly MU peeps.  Compared to most, we do try to police each other and reign it in.  The way I see it is so many people couldn't handle Chico's opposition counterpoints, especially if it veered political.  He is not repub or dem, he is honestly for the truth.  But when that goes against some here, the pack comes out and tries to back him(as well as others) into a corner.  Well, what do most do in this instance?  They fight back.  Then the vitriol starts flying and it's usually the guy throwing the second punch who gets nailed.  As for the "ban hammer" I had a hard time with that as there have been others who by the same standards should have had the same.  Chico's didnt get personal to the point of throwing obscenities at others like one under paid attorney whose posts were the most cringe-worthy

There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with others here, but so many times it gets personal.  Much of that is a carry-over from the politics section.  Like a golfer, we must have short memories in order to converse here or don't converse at all.  If one were to put their bias blinders on, Chico's post, although provocative, represented a nice opposition to others and that is what we want on a healthy board even though many of us, myself included, have veered toward the personal on occasion.  As long as that is recognized and corrected, no harm, no foul  Eyn'er?

Ya have to admit however that 4/5 posts have been very informative from his perspective to say the least. Not only have his posts been tame, but he has backed off many challenges to his opinions and his person. I do think we can all be the good people that MU espoused,  while exhibiting some push back without getting personal.  Show me any other blog that can be half as civil as this one

Sorry-I just saw this getting a little out of hand, now back to our regularly scheduled shows

All I'll say is that Banny is very lucky to have a friend like you. Everybody needs one of 'em.

[jesmu84]

Jimmy G from Pats to niners for a 2nd round pick. Niners didn't think they'd get a good QB at top of first round?

Pats have no other QBs on roster. I hope they sign Kap. That would be a total belicheck move

[4everwarriors]

Kapernick to da Patriots. Oh da irony, ai na?

[cheebs09]

Jimmy G from Pats to niners for a 2nd round pick. Niners didn't think they'd get a good QB at top of first round?

Pats have no other QBs on roster. I hope they sign Kap. That would be a total belicheck move

With baseball season being over for most, Tebow may be available to finish the year.

[MU82]

Word is that Niners are gonna release Hoyer and the Pats will then sign him to be Brady's backup.

Belichick did take a flyer on Tebow and also got Randy Moss, so he's not afraid of either the circus or controversy. But Belichick and Kraft are both big Trump supporters, so I'd guess Kaep was never even considered.

[MUBurrow]

Dammit Dolphins. I don't think Ajayi would be the difference between the playoffs and not again, but I just don't see the upside of trading him for a 4th rounder today. Could have gotten that for him in the offseason, too. Gase must think its addition by subtraction, but I don't see how the offense gets any better without him, and with Landry in the final year of his deal, its kind of a kick in the nuts if they trade Ajayi, miss the playoffs, and then lose Landry to FA without getting anything for him.

[MerrittsMustache]

Pereira and Blandino have both stated that had Zach Miller's non-catch been ruled incomplete on the field, they would have overturned it to be a completion/TD based on the replays. That's a problem.

[B. McBannerson]

MU82, is this one of underdogs you speak of?  The everyday Joe that can't get ahead?  His take on NFL.  http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/10/fox-reporter-peter-schrager-kicked-out-cab-nfl-anthem-protests-rating-indianapolis

[Jockey]

MU82, is this one of underdogs you speak of?  The everyday Joe that can't get ahead?  His take on NFL.  http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/10/fox-reporter-peter-schrager-kicked-out-cab-nfl-anthem-protests-rating-indianapolis

OMG! Another chicas re-iteration.

Desperation is the 1st word that comes to mind.

[Dish]

An awful NFL season gets worse with Watson tearing his ACL.

The number of mega stars out for the year is uncanny.

[jesmu84]

An awful NFL season gets worse with Watson tearing his ACL.

The number of mega stars out for the year is uncanny.

Texans owner has signed off on a kapernick workout. Please, please, please.

[HouWarrior]

An awful NFL season gets worse with Watson tearing his ACL.

The number of mega stars out for the year is uncanny.

Houston didnt even get to our Astros parade before the balloon pops on the ACL loss of Watson....Durn the twists of luck.

Even if you are not a fan of the teams.... losing the likes of Rodgers and Watson diminishes the enjoyment of watching great QB play, the lynch pin of the NFL game

[jesmu84]

Houston didnt even get to our Astros parade before the balloon pops on the ACL loss of Watson....Durn the twists of luck.

Even if you are not a fan of the teams.... losing the likes of Rodgers and Watson diminishes the enjoyment of watching great QB play, the lynch pin of the NFL game

Rodgers, Luck, Tannehill, Watson, Cook, Odell, Watt, Palmer, David Johnson, etc

Lots of missing stars this year so far