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BrewCity83

Yeah, how could I forget Dominic James?!?!  He belongs on that team for sure!
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: BrewCity83 on June 13, 2016, 04:44:25 PM
Yeah, how could I forget Dominic James?!?!  He belongs on that team for sure!

Hayward belongs over crowder. I love crowder but nothing like a rim rattling dunk and that's something Hayward could do while crowder's vertical was like half an inch.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

brewcity77

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on June 13, 2016, 05:41:08 PM
Hayward belongs over crowder. I love crowder but nothing like a rim rattling dunk and that's something Hayward could do while crowder's vertical was like half an inch.

Crowder was everywhere on the court, falling over himself to get the ball. I loved Wade, but Crowder's 110% effort 110% of the time was the most fun I've ever had watching a Marquette player. Excitement is the epitome of his game.

MuMark

Quote from: BrewCity83 on June 13, 2016, 12:10:12 PM
Most exciting players:

1st Team:
Artie Green
Dwyane Wade
Sam Worthen
Terry Reason
George Thompson

2nd Team:
Doc Rivers
Lloyd Walton
Jae Crowder
Mandy Johnson
Joe Nethen

3rd Team:
Earl Tatum
Dean Meminger
Jerel McNeal
Larry McNeill
Michael Wilson
Wesley Matthews (tie)

Joe Nethen? Lol

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brandx

Quote from: BrewCity83 on June 13, 2016, 12:10:12 PM
Most exciting players:

1st Team:
Artie Green
Dwyane Wade
Sam Worthen
Terry Reason
George Thompson

2nd Team:
Doc Rivers
Lloyd Walton
Jae Crowder
Mandy Johnson
Joe Nethen

3rd Team:
Earl Tatum
Dean Meminger
Jerel McNeal
Larry McNeill
Michael Wilson
Wesley Matthews (tie)

Other than Nethen, my choices would be pretty similar. I'd have Earl and Dean in the top 5, though.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 13, 2016, 05:45:46 PM
Crowder was everywhere on the court, falling over himself to get the ball. I loved Wade, but Crowder's 110% effort 110% of the time was the most fun I've ever had watching a Marquette player. Excitement is the epitome of his game.

And Hayward did the exact same thing only with a severely less intimidating butler and DJO that crowder had
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

brewcity77

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on June 13, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
And Hayward did the exact same thing only with a severely less intimidating butler and DJO that crowder had

Hayward was different. A lot more polished and a lot more under control. While there were similarities to their games, Crowder was a lot more aggression and raw energy. Hayward was a great player, but in terms of being exciting to watch, I'd take Crowder every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

real chili 83

Hayward, one of a few first round draft picks, and not even a third round honorable mention.

Lennys Tap

Crowder was (and is) a much better defender. It's why he's in the NBA and Lazar is auditioning for Ghostbusters III.

real chili 83

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 13, 2016, 09:50:51 PM
Crowder was (and is) a much better defender. It's why he's in the NBA and Lazar is auditioning for Ghostbusters III.

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Galway Eagle

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 13, 2016, 09:46:15 PM
Hayward was different. A lot more polished and a lot more under control. While there were similarities to their games, Crowder was a lot more aggression and raw energy. Hayward was a great player, but in terms of being exciting to watch, I'd take Crowder every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Yes who can forget all the rim rattling bunny hop layups that crowder had, I remember how excited it got sophomore and junior me.

For basketball in general I'll take crowder but in terms of who was more exciting I'd take Hayward. But we're both stubborn so agree to disagree 
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Benny B

Quote from: brewcity77 on June 13, 2016, 09:46:15 PM
Hayward was different. A lot more polished and a lot more under control. While there were similarities to their games, Crowder was a lot more aggression and raw energy. Hayward was a great player, but in terms of being exciting to watch, I'd take Crowder every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

With exception to that one unpolished, out-of-control error he made (which probably wouldn't have made a difference had he not committed it, but it still would have been nice to have a chance).
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: Benny B on June 14, 2016, 09:00:43 AM
With exception to that one unpolished, out-of-control error he made (which probably wouldn't have made a difference had he not committed it, but it still would have been nice to have a chance).

That game still pisses me off. Not so much the Zar mistake, but the magical injury/free throw/recovery debacle.

MerrittsMustache

#140
Quote from: Benny B on June 14, 2016, 09:00:43 AM
With exception to that one unpolished, out-of-control error he made (which probably wouldn't have made a difference had he not committed it, but it still would have been nice to have a chance).

I still think he got faked out by DJ coming off the screen. Zar was on the move, preparing to fire it into James coming towards him off the screen but instead of coming toward the ball, DJ faded back towards halfcourt putting DeMarre Carroll in the passing lane.

Approx 0:30...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfwkWbcpJkI

mileskishnish72

Luke, Dream, Wade, Chones & Thompson.

dgies9156

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on June 14, 2016, 10:43:14 AM
Luke, Dream, Wade, Chones & Thompson.

Dean the Dream?
Over the National Player of the Year in 1978?
Over the Most Valuable Player of the 1977 National Championship tournament?
Look, I loved the Dream but no way.

As to Thompson, he was great too. Our first. But I would take Bo Ellis any day of the week over George. And I might take Lackey over him on a good day, too. George was a great Warrior but Bo was our leader in 1977.

4everwarriors

Best 1 = #14
Best 2 = #15/#3
Best 3 = #31
Best 4 = #20
Best 5 = #22

Hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Herman Cain

#144
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 14, 2016, 10:52:02 AM
Dean the Dream?
Over the National Player of the Year in 1978?
Over the Most Valuable Player of the 1977 National Championship tournament?
Look, I loved the Dream but no way.

As to Thompson, he was great too. Our first. But I would take Bo Ellis any day of the week over George. And I might take Lackey over him on a good day, too. George was a great Warrior but Bo was our leader in 1977.
I have Dean the Dream on my avatar but I had Butch over him on my ranking. Butch had far better free throw ability and that was the difference in that decision.

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Goose

Doc

Dean was awfully good but I cannot put him ahead of Wade, Butch or Bo. IMO Wade was one of a king and Butch and Bo were as good as college players as you can get. Bo was a stud for two years and Butch had two unreal seasons. Actually funny but I thought Butch would be a bust after the Freshman season. Found his poor shooting and turnovers to be worrisome and he turned into an all great.

The Dream was something else and a great winner and he only makes my second team.

brewcity77

Quote from: Benny B on June 14, 2016, 09:00:43 AM
With exception to that one unpolished, out-of-control error he made (which probably wouldn't have made a difference had he not committed it, but it still would have been nice to have a chance).

Yeah...there was that...  >:(

But you know what I mean, compared to Hayward, Crowder was the proverbial bull in the China shop.


4everwarriors

Quote from: Goose on June 14, 2016, 11:43:24 AM
Doc

Dean was awfully good but I cannot put him ahead of Wade, Butch or Bo. IMO Wade was one of a king and Butch and Bo were as good as college players as you can get. Bo was a stud for two years and Butch had two unreal seasons. Actually funny but I thought Butch would be a bust after the Freshman season. Found his poor shooting and turnovers to be worrisome and he turned into an all great.

The Dream was something else and a great winner and he only makes my second team.




Might be a bit confusin', but by Best 1 I mean best point guard, Best 2 would be best shootin' guard, etc., hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

BrewCity83

Quote from: MuMark on June 13, 2016, 06:37:10 PM
Joe Nethen? Lol

Joe Nethen was exciting to watch because you never knew when one of his errant elbows would start a fight in a game.  Talk about a bull in a china shop....

Crowder was far more exciting to watch than Lazar.  Both excellent college players, but Crowder was all grit, hustle and sweat.  Lazar played his game with the cool demeanor; he made the game look easy.  Yeah his dunks were nice and all, but he didn't have the pizzaz in his game.
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#149
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 14, 2016, 11:06:34 AM
Best 1 = #14
Best 2 = #15/#3
Best 3 = #31
Best 4 = #20
Best 5 = #22

Hey?

Don't think #31 ever really played the 3.  The 3 was manned by Tatum during Bo's first three seasons, and Neary (but really Toone) when Bo was a senior.

If you're going by the positions they played, ya gotta pick either #31 or #20.

That's what makes picking by positions really hard. #15 and #3 were arguably the two best players we ever had, but they both played the 2 (as you noted).  And then of course, you have both Bo and Luke at the 4.  Both tough calls, but I went with Butch and Bo.

Throw away positions, and the best five were probably:

#15
#3
#22
#31
#20


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