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Re: Recruiting as of 7/15/22
« Reply #32375 on: August 03, 2022, 11:26:46 AM »
I think recruiting is a lot like the NFL draft, it is a numbers game and fingers cross on how guys pan out. Obviously, the chances are much greater for success if you land a consensus top ten guy, but after that I think there is a lot of luck. IMO Garcia is a perfect example of it being a bit of luck on high big of an impact their career ends up being. Garcia was a nice player, but I do not think he played to his class ranking while MU.

Until proven otherwise I am going to have trust in Shaka's recruiting style and see what happens. I think getting guys that want to be here, fit the system and are hungry might be the best plan of attack. I am very anxious to see the YOY improvement on the returning guys and see if it is part of Shaka's system. I am confident we are going to see the returning guys playing at a higher level this upcoming season.

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« Reply #32376 on: August 03, 2022, 12:35:59 PM »
I think recruiting is a lot like the NFL draft, it is a numbers game and fingers cross on how guys pan out. Obviously, the chances are much greater for success if you land a consensus top ten guy, but after that I think there is a lot of luck. IMO Garcia is a perfect example of it being a bit of luck on high big of an impact their career ends up being. Garcia was a nice player, but I do not think he played to his class ranking while MU.

Until proven otherwise I am going to have trust in Shaka's recruiting style and see what happens. I think getting guys that want to be here, fit the system and are hungry might be the best plan of attack. I am very anxious to see the YOY improvement on the returning guys and see if it is part of Shaka's system. I am confident we are going to see the returning guys playing at a higher level this upcoming season.
His composite ranking was #37 and he averaged close to 13/7 as a Freshman. He obviously hasn't done much since then, but I think his Freshman year performance matched his HS ranking.

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Re: Recruiting as of 7/15/22
« Reply #32377 on: August 03, 2022, 12:50:39 PM »
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I thought he was higher rated than that. With a 37 ranking he played up to or close that ranking. I guess my point is that IMO there is not a crazy amount of difference from guys ranked 40th-100th. I think a lot does go into guys fitting into a program. Hopefully that happens at MU.

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« Reply #32378 on: August 03, 2022, 01:42:15 PM »
I think recruiting is a lot like the NFL draft, it is a numbers game and fingers cross on how guys pan out. Obviously, the chances are much greater for success if you land a consensus top ten guy, but after that I think there is a lot of luck. IMO Garcia is a perfect example of it being a bit of luck on high big of an impact their career ends up being. Garcia was a nice player, but I do not think he played to his class ranking while MU.

Until proven otherwise I am going to have trust in Shaka's recruiting style and see what happens. I think getting guys that want to be here, fit the system and are hungry might be the best plan of attack. I am very anxious to see the YOY improvement on the returning guys and see if it is part of Shaka's system. I am confident we are going to see the returning guys playing at a higher level this upcoming season.

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« Reply #32379 on: August 03, 2022, 02:00:19 PM »
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« Reply #32380 on: August 03, 2022, 02:01:55 PM »
Tis a shame, 'tis a rotton shame, for if ye can enjoy the walkin’ ye can probably enjoy the other times in yer life when ve're in between. And that's most o' the time; wouldn't ye say?

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« Reply #32381 on: August 03, 2022, 02:28:59 PM »
Lazer

I thought he was higher rated than that. With a 37 ranking he played up to or close that ranking. I guess my point is that IMO there is not a crazy amount of difference from guys ranked 40th-100th. I think a lot does go into guys fitting into a program. Hopefully that happens at MU.
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Re: Recruiting as of 7/15/22
« Reply #32382 on: August 03, 2022, 02:52:22 PM »
Lazer

I thought he was higher rated than that. With a 37 ranking he played up to or close that ranking. I guess my point is that IMO there is not a crazy amount of difference from guys ranked 40th-100th. I think a lot does go into guys fitting into a program. Hopefully that happens at MU.

I tend to agree as long as a coach is pulling players that fit across that rating spectrum.  If a coach is fishing/landing in 80-100 zone it’s a recipe for Mike Deane results. 

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« Reply #32383 on: August 03, 2022, 02:57:02 PM »
I tend to agree as long as a coach is pulling players that fit across that rating spectrum.  If a coach is fishing/landing in 80-100 zone it’s a recipe for Mike Deane results.

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« Reply #32384 on: August 03, 2022, 03:43:34 PM »
Isn't fresh another term for green?

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« Reply #32385 on: August 03, 2022, 08:26:10 PM »
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« Reply #32386 on: August 03, 2022, 08:32:45 PM »
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« Reply #32387 on: August 04, 2022, 02:58:38 PM »
Doesn't seem he's been a high priority, but JaQualon Roberts has committed to Vandy.

https://www.on3.com/college/vanderbilt-commodores/news/three-star-forward-jaqualon-roberts-commits-to-vanderbilt/

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« Reply #32388 on: August 06, 2022, 07:41:36 AM »
Tre Norman stats, per synergy. 10th best volume player in the EYBL based on PPP. Had the second most possessions per game among the top 10.

https://twitter.com/SynergySST/status/1555635003970781185

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Re: Recruiting as of 7/15/22
« Reply #32389 on: August 06, 2022, 09:30:49 AM »
Tre Norman stats, per synergy. 10th best volume player in the EYBL based on PPP. Had the second most possessions per game among the top 10.

https://twitter.com/SynergySST/status/1555635003970781185

I think Norman is due for a big jump in the rankings, though playing in the PIT might keep him from rising as high as he could have. Guessing he'll be in the 45-55 range, but had he done the same on the main stage would probably be going top-30.
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« Reply #32390 on: August 06, 2022, 09:45:42 AM »
I tend to agree as long as a coach is pulling players that fit across that rating spectrum.  If a coach is fishing/landing in 80-100 zone it’s a recipe for Mike Deane results.
I am not going back to look it up, but the only top 100 I remember Deane signing was Brian Wardle. He succeeded mostly off of O'Neal's recruits.

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« Reply #32391 on: August 06, 2022, 11:47:13 AM »
I am not going back to look it up, but the only top 100 I remember Deane signing was Brian Wardle. He succeeded mostly off of O'Neal's recruits.

Wasn’t Cordell Henry in the top 100?

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« Reply #32392 on: August 06, 2022, 11:53:35 AM »
Wasn’t Cordell Henry in the top 100?

Not according to RSCI. He might've been in one service or another, but I couldn't find any evidence.
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« Reply #32393 on: August 06, 2022, 12:45:25 PM »
Not according to RSCI. He might've been in one service or another, but I couldn't find any evidence.

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You’re correct - his rsci was 120. My recollection is he made some top 100 lists but obviously he was left off more often than not.

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« Reply #32394 on: August 06, 2022, 02:00:19 PM »
Brew

You’re correct - his rsci was 120. My recollection is he made some top 100 lists but obviously he was left off more often than not.

Loved Cordell. I feel like he's a really forgotten player because of his timeline. Most of his career was the end of Deane's era and the first bad Crean years. Glad he got 2002, but also too bad he left before the Final Four. When I enrolled at Marquette, he was one of my first favorite players.
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« Reply #32395 on: August 06, 2022, 02:03:36 PM »
Wasn’t Cordell Henry in the top 100?

Nothing empirical (outside my memory), but he was. I’m obsessed with such things.

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« Reply #32396 on: August 06, 2022, 03:26:03 PM »
Loved Cordell. I feel like he's a really forgotten player because of his timeline. Most of his career was the end of Deane's era and the first bad Crean years. Glad he got 2002, but also too bad he left before the Final Four. When I enrolled at Marquette, he was one of my first favorite players.

I really liked him as well.  IIRC he killed DePaul every year. 

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« Reply #32397 on: August 06, 2022, 04:40:51 PM »
2023 Trey Green, the point guard for Link Academy and Moman Elite (Peach Jam Champs) committed to Xavier.

https://www.on3.com/news/four-star-point-guard-trey-green-commits-to-xavier/
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« Reply #32398 on: August 07, 2022, 08:18:29 AM »
So are we still very confident Norman is committing or is Rutgers a legitimate concern now?

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« Reply #32399 on: August 07, 2022, 09:20:44 AM »
So are we still very confident Norman is committing or is Rutgers a legitimate concern now?
Not to state the obvious, but I assume, as with every player, it comes down to money. I'd hope the dollars are bigger at MU than Rutgers.

 

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