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MarquetteMike1977

Sales pitch: Which Big East programs are Villanova's top challengers on the recruiting trail?
By Jeff Borzello ESPN Staff Writer

Tier 1
Villanova

Tier 2
Connecticut
Georgetown
Marquette

Tier 3
Saint John's
Providence
Xavier
Creighton
Seton Hall

Tier 4
Butler
De Paul

MarquetteMike1977

Jeff Bozello ESPN Staff Writer
Marquette is the clear leader when it comes to schools in the Midwest branch of the Big East. The Golden Eagles have plenty of history, including a national championship under Al McGuire in 1977, and they also have one big advantage over everyone else in the league: resources. Marquette has one of the biggest budgets of any school in the country -- something that helped woo Shaka Smart from Texas earlier this offseason.

"They're there with Villanova and Georgetown, in terms of great basketball tradition, essentially no football tradition ... Catholic school, great university in a big city, success with NBA players," one coach said. "Marquette games mean everything in that area. They might be more popular than the Bucks. I think they have a top-five budget in college basketball. It's a really invested program and university."

"He is a relentless recruiter," another coach said of Smart. "He will absolutely crush it at Marquette with their resources and facilities."

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on May 12, 2021, 11:39:40 PM
Jeff Bozello ESPN Staff Writer
Marquette is the clear leader when it comes to schools in the Midwest branch of the Big East. The Golden Eagles have plenty of history, including a national championship under Al McGuire in 1977, and they also have one big advantage over everyone else in the league: resources. Marquette has one of the biggest budgets of any school in the country -- something that helped woo Shaka Smart from Texas earlier this offseason.

"They're there with Villanova and Georgetown, in terms of great basketball tradition, essentially no football tradition ... Catholic school, great university in a big city, success with NBA players," one coach said. "Marquette games mean everything in that area. They might be more popular than the Bucks. I think they have a top-five budget in college basketball. It's a really invested program and university."

"He is a relentless recruiter," another coach said of Smart. "He will absolutely crush it at Marquette with their resources and facilities."

Lol
"In you they have treated father and mother with contempt; in you they have oppressed the foreigner and mistreated the fatherless and the widow."

SaveOD238

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on May 12, 2021, 11:39:40 PM
Jeff Bozello ESPN Staff Writer
Marquette is the clear leader when it comes to schools in the Midwest branch of the Big East. The Golden Eagles have plenty of history, including a national championship under Al McGuire in 1977, and they also have one big advantage over everyone else in the league: resources. Marquette has one of the biggest budgets of any school in the country -- something that helped woo Shaka Smart from Texas earlier this offseason.

"They're there with Villanova and Georgetown, in terms of great basketball tradition, essentially no football tradition ... Catholic school, great university in a big city, success with NBA players," one coach said. "Marquette games mean everything in that area. They might be more popular than the Bucks. I think they have a top-five budget in college basketball. It's a really invested program and university."

"He is a relentless recruiter," another coach said of Smart. "He will absolutely crush it at Marquette with their resources and facilities."

In 2021, hell no.

In the Crean/Buzz years at Marquette that coincided with the Herb Kohl years for the Bucks? It's not too much of a stretch.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on May 12, 2021, 11:23:14 PM
Sales pitch: Which Big East programs are Villanova's top challengers on the recruiting trail?
By Jeff Borzello ESPN Staff Writer

Tier 1
Villanova

Tier 2
Connecticut
Georgetown
Marquette

Tier 3
Saint John's
Providence
Xavier
Creighton
Seton Hall

Tier 4
Butler
De Paul

It would be interesting to hear how he came up with this. The factors that come to my mind are recent success of a team/coach (especially the tourney), NBA alumni, facilities, geographical location. How did he weight these factors?   
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Quote from: SaveOD238 on May 13, 2021, 07:36:14 AM
In 2021, hell no.

In the Crean/Buzz years at Marquette that coincided with the Herb Kohl years for the Bucks? It's not too much of a stretch.

Of course it's not true.  But the perception helps.  I like it.

MarquetteMike1977

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on May 13, 2021, 07:58:46 AM
It would be interesting to hear how he came up with this. The factors that come to my mind are recent success of a team/coach (especially the tourney), NBA alumni, facilities, geographical location. How did he weight these factors?
Jeff Borzello ESPN Staff Writer
Last week, we started our Sales Pitch series by ranking the schools in the ACC based on the quality of their enticements for men's basketball recruits, also debating the schools that do the most with fewer resources and those our team would consider "sleeping giants."

This week, we'll continue our exercise by examining the Big East, where Villanova has owned a clear advantage over the league's other schools but the recruiting climate is heated in a conference where 10 of 11 schools have made at least one of the past three NCAA tournaments.

By way of reminder, ESPN spoke with a wide variety of anonymous coaches across college basketball's top seven leagues (as rated by KenPom and other relevant metrics systems), as well as the nationally relevant programs beyond those conferences, for our Sales Pitch feature. Over a seven-week period, we'll rank the programs in order of which have the best sales pitches for recruits and transfers.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on May 13, 2021, 08:18:55 AM
Jeff Borzello ESPN Staff Writer
Last week, we started our Sales Pitch series by ranking the schools in the ACC based on the quality of their enticements for men's basketball recruits, also debating the schools that do the most with fewer resources and those our team would consider "sleeping giants."

This week, we'll continue our exercise by examining the Big East, where Villanova has owned a clear advantage over the league's other schools but the recruiting climate is heated in a conference where 10 of 11 schools have made at least one of the past three NCAA tournaments.

By way of reminder, ESPN spoke with a wide variety of anonymous coaches across college basketball's top seven leagues (as rated by KenPom and other relevant metrics systems), as well as the nationally relevant programs beyond those conferences, for our Sales Pitch feature. Over a seven-week period, we'll rank the programs in order of which have the best sales pitches for recruits and transfers.

I agree with some of the quotes in that Borzello article but even in their recent best years, Marquette games didn't mean "everything" to the area.  That's 1977 thinking.  It's simply the truth.  Wisconsin Badger basketball has as much meaning as Marquette basketball in the Milwaukee area.  I don't like it, but to think otherwise is simply wrong.
"In you they have treated father and mother with contempt; in you they have oppressed the foreigner and mistreated the fatherless and the widow."


GoldenWarrior11

Judging from this poll, and from the national perception of MU's resources, history and commitment to competing at a high-level, I would think that (in time) the Wojo era will be looked down upon even more (given the inconsistency and inability to secure tournament bids and/or wins).

jutaw22mu

Wojo-era sucked.  I hope we go back to being able to beat Seton Hall again.  And not losing to DePaul on our home court. And not having to listen to timeouts where the coach can't say anything intelligible.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: jutaw22mu on May 13, 2021, 09:36:34 AM
Wojo-era sucked.  I hope we go back to being able to beat Seton Hall again.  And not losing to DePaul on our home court. And not having to listen to timeouts where the coach can't say anything intelligible.

Wojo sucked but the fascination and importance some people continue to assign to those televised timeouts is bizarre. 

MU82

I really hope the recruiting thread can again become bogged down with a debate about Wojo's coaching skills, cuddles, etc.

It's what Scoop really needs -- more Wojo hate, less recruiting news.

Also, can you believe Vander's refusal to do a slap of five?
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Viper

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 13, 2021, 08:24:56 AM
I agree with some of the quotes in that Borzello article but even in their recent best years, Marquette games didn't mean "everything" to the area.  That's 1977 thinking.  It's simply the truth.  Wisconsin Badger basketball has as much meaning as Marquette basketball in the Milwaukee area.  I don't like it, but to think otherwise is simply wrong.
you are correct. Even on Marquette's flagship radio station in Milwaukee (ESPN 540 and 94.5), UW gets a lot of coverage. Heck, two formers Badgers have their own show on the station!! Winning will resolve 2nd tier exposure status, but Borzello is a bit over-the-top. (Who knows, maybe UWMilwaukee is the next top dog in town. 😀)
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I don't really know how much Marquette can overcome UW's status in Milwaukee.  But I also don't think it matters.  The Marquette fanbase is plenty passionate and loyal.  It doesn't see to win a popularity contest with UW-Madison.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 13, 2021, 10:06:07 AM
I don't really know how much Marquette can overcome UW's status in Milwaukee.  But I also don't think it matters.  The Marquette fanbase is plenty passionate and loyal.  It doesn't see to win a popularity contest with UW-Madison.

Only chance would be UW to drop to complete irrelevance again while we hit Al level again. Which I doubt ever happens since UW's system will always position them for the perfect hyped up farm boys that buy in, red shirt and play till they're 27.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 13, 2021, 10:12:44 AM
Only chance would be UW to drop to complete irrelevance again while we hit Al level again. Which I doubt ever happens since UW's system will always position them for the perfect hyped up farm boys that buy in, red shirt and play till they're 27.


Not many "farm boys" on the UW team.  Mostly suburbanites from Minnesota.
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Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 13, 2021, 08:24:56 AM
I agree with some of the quotes in that Borzello article but even in their recent best years, Marquette games didn't mean "everything" to the area.  That's 1977 thinking.  It's simply the truth.  Wisconsin Badger basketball has as much meaning as Marquette basketball in the Milwaukee area.  I don't like it, but to think otherwise is simply wrong.

I still think of the Badgers basketball team as an after thought to their football team.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 13, 2021, 10:33:55 AM

Not many "farm boys" on the UW team.  Mostly suburbanites from Minnesota.

Same thing 😂
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MarquetteMike1977

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on May 12, 2021, 11:39:40 PM
Jeff Bozello ESPN Staff Writer
Marquette is the clear leader when it comes to schools in the Midwest branch of the Big East. The Golden Eagles have plenty of history, including a national championship under Al McGuire in 1977, and they also have one big advantage over everyone else in the league: resources. Marquette has one of the biggest budgets of any school in the country -- something that helped woo Shaka Smart from Texas earlier this offseason.

"They're there with Villanova and Georgetown, in terms of great basketball tradition, essentially no football tradition ... Catholic school, great university in a big city, success with NBA players," one coach said. "Marquette games mean everything in that area. They might be more popular than the Bucks. I think they have a top-five budget in college basketball. It's a really invested program and university."

"He is a relentless recruiter," another coach said of Smart. "He will absolutely crush it at Marquette with their resources and facilities."

True agree it might not be entirely accurate but I like how Borzello talks up the Marquette program.

JWags85

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on May 13, 2021, 11:59:24 AM
I still think of the Badgers basketball team as an after thought to their football team.

Honestly, their fans still do too.

Viper

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 13, 2021, 10:33:55 AM

Not many "farm boys" on the UW team.  Mostly suburbanites from Minnesota.
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In recruiting-ish news, Evan Flood put in a crystal ball pick for Seth Trimble to Michigan.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Pakuni on May 13, 2021, 09:00:21 PM
In recruiting-ish news, Evan Flood put in a crystal ball pick for Seth Trimble to Michigan.

Unsurprising. He basically stated it was his dream school
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