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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9975 on: October 13, 2017, 05:15:47 PM »
Dotson excited about KU
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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9976 on: October 13, 2017, 05:19:36 PM »
Ed Cooley, Providence just picked up their second top 50 pledge in David Duke. Heck of a class for the Friars.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9977 on: October 13, 2017, 05:21:12 PM »
Gri(MU)es. Let's do this

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9978 on: October 13, 2017, 05:25:54 PM »
FWIW, Adam Zagoria is picking Dotson to Kansas, Ayala to Maryland and Duke to Providence.  He's usually pretty good with the information with all 3 programs.

Thanks for keeping us updated, looks like he did his homework.
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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9979 on: October 13, 2017, 05:26:35 PM »
This couldn't have come together any better. KU will try to damage control the commit, but I'd be shocked if Dotson didn't hurt their case.

So now both Kentucky and Kansas have added 5* PGs. Texas will be a month removed from their visit. I felt all along if Grimes visited we'd have a chance, and I'd say without us doing anything those odds have improved in the last month.

Grimes would probably be the most significant recruiting win at Marquette in my lifetime, and easily in the last 30 years. Go get him, Wojo.
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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9980 on: October 13, 2017, 05:31:05 PM »
So what is Kansas' scholarship situation now? They're still after Zion Williamson, right?

They theoretically have 13/13 scholarships filled (like us). They think 1 or both of Newman and Vick will go pro (I doubt it). Their top targets are Grimes, Romeo Langford (#5 overall, CG) and Zion Willaimson (#2 overall, SF). Langford will be a spring decision but they are considered the leader. Who knows with Williamson. Of course they can have players transfer or run players off if they need to.

What this means is that KU is now pretty crowded at guard. They have 5 star Devon Dotson and stud transfer Charlie Moore as traditional PGs. They will have senior LaGerlad Vick and Redshirt Junior Malik Newman as combo guards (unless they go pro) as well as 2017 top 50 Marcus Garrett. They also have quality transfers Sam Cunliffe and KJ Lawson as switchables who can play 2-4. And while the could play small...they have some quality bigs in D Lawson, Billy Preston, Doke Azubuike, and two top 40 freshmen who will demand playing time at the 4/5.

Grimes is a quality player so he can carve out playing time even if all of KU's players come back. But that's a lot of quality players to try and find minutes for....and Self has never played two freshmen in the backcourt together. Certainly some ammunition of Wojo to use against KU.
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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9981 on: October 13, 2017, 05:39:00 PM »
They theoretically have 13/13 scholarships filled (like us). They think 1 or both of Newman and Vick will go pro (I doubt it). Their top targets are Grimes, Romeo Langford (#5 overall, CG) and Zion Willaimson (#2 overall, SF). Langford will be a spring decision but they are considered the leader. Who knows with Williamson. Of course they can have players transfer or run players off if they need to.

What this means is that KU is now pretty crowded at guard. They have 5 star Devon Dotson and stud transfer Charlie Moore as traditional PGs. They will have senior LaGerlad Vick and Redshirt Junior Malik Newman as combo guards (unless they go pro) as well as 2017 top 50 Marcus Garrett. They also have quality transfers Sam Cunliffe and KJ Lawson as switchables who can play 2-4. And while the could play small...they have some quality bigs in D Lawson, Billy Preston, Doke Azubuike, and two top 40 freshmen who will demand playing time at the 4/5.

Grimes is a quality player so he can carve out playing time even if all of KU's players come back. But that's a lot of quality players to try and find minutes for....and Self has never played two freshmen in the backcourt together. Certainly some ammunition of Wojo to use against KU.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9982 on: October 13, 2017, 06:11:40 PM »
Is it time to get to the bunker BD?

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9983 on: October 13, 2017, 06:12:10 PM »
Dotson excited about KU

Uhhh... Ya think?

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9984 on: October 13, 2017, 06:16:45 PM »
I think this definitely brings us into name-change worthy territory.
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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9985 on: October 13, 2017, 06:33:38 PM »
We need Grimes to get out of Lawrence first.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9986 on: October 13, 2017, 06:34:14 PM »
We need Grimes to get out of Lawrence first.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9987 on: October 13, 2017, 07:26:41 PM »
We need Grimes to get out of Lawrence first.
Fingers crossed that it rains in Lawrence and might ruin the fun that the town provides

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9988 on: October 13, 2017, 07:28:47 PM »
Yes--it is a great town and Phog is sweet. However, I am thrilled with the events to date.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9989 on: October 13, 2017, 08:07:34 PM »
Fingers crossed that it rains in Lawrence and might ruin the fun that the town provides
as a local(ish) i know that rain is certainly in the forecast.  what's this "fun" that the town provides"?  assuming he's not doing the local corn maze (btw - did it with my 11 and 9 year olds last weekend....hella fun) any 'fun' KU can provide is the same as every large public school can provide and usually those are indoor activities.

don't get me wrong, it's a cute town.  but unless you went to KU, it's nothing special.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9990 on: October 13, 2017, 09:01:40 PM »
I think definitely this brings us into name-change worthy territory.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9991 on: October 13, 2017, 09:12:39 PM »

Grimes would probably be the most significant recruiting win at Marquette in my lifetime, and easily in the last 30 years. Go get him, Wojo.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9992 on: October 13, 2017, 09:43:09 PM »
I honestly think we get this done.  I have no information so this is pure instinct.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9993 on: October 13, 2017, 09:43:52 PM »
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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9994 on: October 13, 2017, 10:06:02 PM »
They theoretically have 13/13 scholarships filled (like us). They think 1 or both of Newman and Vick will go pro (I doubt it). Their top targets are Grimes, Romeo Langford (#5 overall, CG) and Zion Willaimson (#2 overall, SF). Langford will be a spring decision but they are considered the leader. Who knows with Williamson. Of course they can have players transfer or run players off if they need to.

What this means is that KU is now pretty crowded at guard. They have 5 star Devon Dotson and stud transfer Charlie Moore as traditional PGs. They will have senior LaGerlad Vick and Redshirt Junior Malik Newman as combo guards (unless they go pro) as well as 2017 top 50 Marcus Garrett. They also have quality transfers Sam Cunliffe and KJ Lawson as switchables who can play 2-4. And while the could play small...they have some quality bigs in D Lawson, Billy Preston, Doke Azubuike, and two top 40 freshmen who will demand playing time at the 4/5.

Grimes is a quality player so he can carve out playing time even if all of KU's players come back. But that's a lot of quality players to try and find minutes for....and Self has never played two freshmen in the backcourt together. Certainly some ammunition of Wojo to use against KU.

Great stuff as usual, TAMU.

If a player is "strongly urged" to transfer to make room on the roster - a situation that could fit either us or Kansas when it comes to Grimes - would that player have to sit out a year?

If a player is "run out," he wouldn't have to, right?

If that's true (and I don't know if it is; that's why I'm asking!), why would a player who wants to play right away not just let himself get run out rather than transfer? Pride?

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9995 on: October 13, 2017, 10:13:46 PM »
They would not be eligible right away......unless they are grad transfers.

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« Reply #9996 on: October 13, 2017, 10:21:37 PM »
Great stuff as usual, TAMU.

If a player is "strongly urged" to transfer to make room on the roster - a situation that could fit either us or Kansas when it comes to Grimes - would that player have to sit out a year?

If a player is "run out," he wouldn't have to, right?

If that's true (and I don't know if it is; that's why I'm asking!), why would a player who wants to play right away not just let himself get run out rather than transfer? Pride?
Getting "run out" and transferring are the same situation.....they are both transfers and will have to sit out a year-unless they transfer to a non-D1 school.

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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9997 on: October 13, 2017, 10:42:35 PM »
Getting "run out" and transferring are the same situation.....they are both transfers and will have to sit out a year-unless they transfer to a non-D1 school.

Really?

I love XYZ University. I give my all. I go to class and get good grades. I am a great teammate. I make a total commitment. The coach nonetheless recruits over me and tells me to take a hike. So I take a hike to ZYX State, a lower-leverl D1 school. And I have to sit out a year?

Does this seem fair to any Scooper?
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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9998 on: October 13, 2017, 10:43:43 PM »
Really?

I love XYZ University. I give my all. I go to class and get good grades. I am a great teammate. I make a total commitment. The coach nonetheless recruits over me and tells me to take a hike. So I take a hike to ZYX State, a lower-leverl D1 school. And I have to sit out a year?

Does this seem fair to any Scooper?
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Re: Recruiting as of 10/15/17
« Reply #9999 on: October 13, 2017, 10:47:50 PM »
Getting run off is an ugly affair. Please refer to the Wally Ellenson incident. It is the seedy underside to college sports.

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