Mystery Solved!

[StCroix64]

After all this blew up Monday evening, I tweeted Mark Miller simply this; "Do you still think Shaka is a done deal?"...his response; "No idea".  I have spoke to Mark before and this is not a normal response from him.\

The thought that SS doesn't want to commit to anything until a new administration is in place makes sense.  Who would want to be hired anywhere without knowing who was in charge?  

That being said, they MAY have an agreement in place, IF the administration details fall into place.

Its a shred of hope, but as I have mentioned before, this is so eerily familiar to the Minnesota roller coaster from last year I'm no sure what to make of it.  

Hey, maybe Tubby Smith is the next coach?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

My theory is the only one that can reconcile the reports of people we all know to be credible. "Done deal" does not leave room for interpretation. It would not have been reported if the deal could be backed out of. Not by IWB. At least, that's what I believe.

"As official as it gets" is akin to "done deal." That was bullseye bros. Again, a credible source.

Any other theory, including, "Shaka agreed but changed his mind," ultimately means bullseye and IWB's reports were wrong. I am going to trust that they were right. The fact that the pres announcement was moved up cemented it for me. If I am wrong...it will be a long fall from such high hopes.

Bullseye bros also mentioned something about Doc having an influence which has never been mentioned anywhere else.

[nyg]

Not a Twitter guy, but did MU tell it's players to shut it down?  

Usually some on this board provide updated "tweets" by the players, but have not heard anything.  

[TJ]

This. Sorta.
Not sure Gold was a good idea, but at least it's original and had some potential. Golden Eagles is just ... blah.
But the expectations for Warriors was so unreasonably high anything else would have gone over like the Hindenburg went over New Jersey.

Go back to Hilltopers!

[Wojo'sMojo]

My theory is the only one that can reconcile the reports of people we all know to be credible. "Done deal" does not leave room for interpretation. It would not have been reported if the deal could be backed out of. Not by IWB. At least, that's what I believe.

"As official as it gets" is akin to "done deal." That was bullseye bros. Again, a credible source.

Any other theory, including, "Shaka agreed but changed his mind," ultimately means bullseye and IWB's reports were wrong. I am going to trust that they were right. The fact that the pres announcement was moved up cemented it for me. If I am wrong...it will be a long fall from such high hopes.

IWB stated his source was not from MU. Could bullseye bros have been his source?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Not a Twitter guy, but did MU tell it's players to shut it down?  

Usually some on this board provide updated "tweets" by the players, but have not heard anything.  

Duane deleted his.

[LAZER]

Bullseye bros also mentioned something about Doc having an influence which has never been mentioned anywhere else.

I wouldn't put much stock in those guys.

[RyanConroy]

After all this blew up Monday evening, I tweeted Mark Miller simply this; "Do you still think Shaka is a done deal?"...his response; "No idea".  I have spoke to Mark before and this is not a normal response from him.\

Didn't seem like Mark Miller ever had inside info on this one. Rather, he was tweeting the reports of colleagues he respected.

[Wojo'sMojo]

Not a Twitter guy, but did MU tell it's players to shut it down?  

Usually some on this board provide updated "tweets" by the players, but have not heard anything.  

Duane Wilson deleted his account yesterday, but Davante and Juan have still been tweeting. Nothing about basketball though.

[Benny B]

What current player is wearing a retired number?

I think he was talking about Novak wearing Lucas' number (coincidentally, the number was retired when Novak was still playing... it was interesting to see the jersey retired at halftime, and then Novak come out of the tunnel still wearing #20).  Thus ensued the discussion about retiring jerseys vs. retiring numbers.

[muguru]

IWB stated his source was not from MU. Could bullseye bros have been his source?

IWB's sources are much MUCH better than the Bullseye bros. His source(s) weren't from MU, but if you knew who they were you'd understand why he tweeted what he did.

[NickelDimer]

Frankly the fact that this thread caused VCUinsider to post in this manner has me thinking we are on to something.

A shred of hope on our side equates to a shred of doubt on theirs

[ZiggysFryBoy]

VCUInsider, just a friendly heads up....you'd get a lot more credibility around here if you add a number to your name like 17 or 18.  Just trying to help a dude out.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Ugh, im going to class. Im vowing not to come back on until after 5:00.

[MisterJaylenBrownMU]

IWB's sources are much MUCH better than the Bullseye bros. His source(s) weren't from MU, but if you knew who they were you'd understand why he tweeted what he did.

To this point, here's what IWB said yesterday afternoon:

"Two things -

94Warrior - No, neither guy is 'dead'. I firmly believe MU is still working on both.

79Warrior - None of my sources yesterday spoke on behalf of MU. None of my sources yesterday were from MU."

Interesting that his sources were outside of Marquette... I hadn't heard that.  

And, FWIW, Roy Schmidt yesterday, when asked if he'd heard anything new, said:

"Roy Schmidt ‏@prepbullseye Mar 25
@jwelge96 Only when I woke up this morning and I don't like the smell of it."

and that SS is "still very much in play."

I'm beginning to think Shaka reneged on an agreement with MU.  Could still sign here, but backed out after verbally agreeing to come to Marquette.  Either way, something's fishy.

[Wojo'sMojo]

IWB's sources are much MUCH better than the Bullseye bros. His source(s) weren't from MU, but if you knew who they were you'd understand why he tweeted what he did.

I'm not a detective, but then I would think it was someone from VCU.

[melissasmooth]

If there are any "accidental" MU National "leaks" about the coaching job today I'm betting they will come after the 2:30 President conference. No need to have the new President answering more than the necessary question or two at the conference.

[UticaBusBarn]

For you old lefties and hippies, I.F. Stone was a guy in Washington, D.C. who put out a weekly newsletter that was know for its accuracy in predicting what was really going on in DC, the Viet Nam war, Watergate, etc.

This particular journalist had no network. He never went to press conferences. He never called anyone. But, he always was the first to predict, with uncanny ability what was to happen and often why.

Izzy Stone's secret? He simply watched the news, looked at canned press releases, figured out how things got to the point they were at, understood that options were often limited, and came to a conclusion, believing human nature fairly predictable.

Too bad he is no longer around. If you think about Brent's departure, it was preordained probably two, or three years ago. The 2013-14 season flowed from Brent and the obvious baggage he carried.

Likewise, the present silence in the context of what the decision makers were saying, doing and given who the decision makers are, should give an indication of where this is all going.

Now think it through, and think through who said what, and why things are silent now. Let's see if we might not be able to be as good as I.F. Stone once was and figure this out.

[VCUInsider]

I'm not a detective, but then I would think it was someone from VCU.

So let me get this straight; some guy, that runs a website that you pay for in order to get more information, somehow has a contact inside VCU that is leaking information to HIM instead of anyone in Richmond? LOL

[brandx]

Didn't seem like Mark Miller ever had inside info on this one. Rather, he was tweeting the reports of colleagues he respected.

Ah... are you saying he "read it on the internet'? Journalism sure has changed.

[Pakuni]

IWB's sources are much MUCH better than the Bullseye bros. His source(s) weren't from MU, but if you knew who they were you'd understand why he tweeted what he did.

Are you suggesting he has some strong sources on this issue?

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

With the limited amount of information coming from IWB, to me it's quite simple what happened.  His sources, probably heard of a hiring which was in fact, the new President. My guess is that Shaka was attached to that newsbit without any verification.  All of the news we heard was related to a "major announcement", "Wednesday press conference", "big hire", etc all fits the bill the new president being hired.  To me, it seems that information was misconstrued by one of the sources.  Shaka Smart fit the bill, of a big hire, but in fact..... it was the new President.  Since he's local, logically, he would not have any sources at a low key school such as VCU.  His sources would be someone who's connected at MU.  I even know someone who knows someone at MU. 

New President Hiring - Fills a much needed vacant post.  He went through a lot of AD's @ UWM - 3.  There's little information, otherwise, to get an accurate idea of how he will pursue a coach.  Engineers tend to be much more pragmatic.  Seems to me the hire is academic more than anything.  My concern is that in the JSOnline article he doesn't state anything about being a college Bball fan in his quotes.  At least he is from the area as that expertise will be needed to help influence the construction of a new Bradley Center.  

[cyclones11jmf]

Here is what is conflicting based on everything I read (apologies if something is incorrect):

1) VCU Admins said that MU has not asked to speak or spoken with SS (seems like too much noise for this not to be true).
2) Reliable MU sources tweet deal is done, and I highly doubt they would tweet that based on rumors or unreliable sources (unless it's a hacked account somehow).

Obviously something is wrong here

3) If SS really told his recruits/coaches that he was staying that would explain why VCU let their top assistant leave to go to RICE. Would the AD and Shaka lie to everyone to keep this deal quiet until everything is done? Granted he isn't shouting this from a mountaintop, but sounds like he won't have too many friends if he does end up agreeing to come to MU.

4) MU pushed up the Presidential Selection in order to have that in place before going after their IMPACT HIRE (SS of Howland hopefully)

[Wojo'sMojo]

So let me get this straight; some guy, that runs a website that you pay for in order to get more information, somehow has a contact inside VCU that is leaking information to HIM instead of anyone in Richmond? LOL

I think I figured out IWB's source. It was Buzz...he was no longer an MU source. Buzz wanted to get us all riled up by dropping the fake done deal and give MU one last f u on his way out!

[Skatastrophy]

For you old lefties and hippies, I.F. Stone was a guy in Washington, D.C. who put out a weekly newsletter that was know for its accuracy in predicting what was really going on in DC, the Viet Nam war, Watergate, etc.

This particular journalist had no network. He never went to press conferences. He never called anyone. But, he always was the first to predict, with uncanny ability what was to happen and often why.

Izzy Stone's secret? He simply watched the news, looked at canned press releases, figured out how things got to the point they were at, understood that options were often limited, and came to a conclusion, believing human nature fairly predictable.

Too bad he is no longer around. If you think about Brent's departure, it was preordained probably two, or three years ago. The 2013-14 season flowed from Brent and the obvious baggage he carried.

Likewise, the present silence in the context of what the decision makers were saying, doing and given who the decision makers are, should give an indication of where this is all going.

Now think it through, and think through who said what, and why things are silent now. Let's see if we might not be able to be as good as I.F. Stone once was and figure this out.

I'm going to stick to rumor mongering and freaking out, tyvm.