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brandx

Numerous witnesses saying one thing or someone with power and money saying the opposite. Who should we believe?

ChicosBailBonds

A witness said that, not witnesses.  Furthermore, the action started previously when the photographer ran into the car.  We'll see how it plays out, but as of right now one person has been arrested and it isn't the bodyguard.  Something tells me the media won't be in a big hurry to get the entire story on this since they are in shark mode right now, but we shall see.

I just thought it interesting that the post talked about an alleged attack and forgot to mention the photographer was arrested.....the new iOS may be at fault.   :P


Dish


wadesworld

Taxes, death, and 2nd half Bears turnovers in tight games.

Can the Bears carry 2 starting quarterbacks and play Jay Cutler in the 1st half and the backup in the 2nd half? ;-) They might be alright then.

Dish


Lennys Tap

If Tim Tebow was in deep thought would it be a Christian Ponder?

tower912

Kudos to the Lions.   Another new way to lose.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Oh well. I can stop caring about the Bears in week 5 at least instead of week 17. On the bright side Cutler and Alshon are still fantasy monsters for me.

Dish

Needs to be said...Brandon Marshall having poor season. Cutler aside, Marshall keeps no showing.

wadesworld

Quote from: Ellensons Tap on October 05, 2014, 03:25:13 PM
If Tim Tebow was in deep thought would it be a Christian Ponder?

Well played.

wadesworld

Quote from: MUDish on October 05, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
Needs to be said...Brandon Marshall having poor season. Cutler aside, Marshall keeps no showing.

That's a good point.  I truly don't know, is he healthy?  I know he's been banged up throughout parts of the season.  Also seemed like Bennett wasn't a big part of the game plan when he had been a complete beast the past 2 weeks.

ChicosBailBonds


jesmu84

Oh look, pink. The NFL really cares about women.

wadesworld


Dish

Interesting to see if the Bears implode by the end of October. I think bad things happen to them next week in Atlanta, assuming that happens, they'd be sitting at 2-4.

I didn't really expect anything from Jared Allen, and I realize he was sick last week and fighting back this week, but between him and Houston, Bears have gotten nothing from either one of those guys.

If the Bears are going to be bad, I'd rather have them be real bad.

ChicosBailBonds

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Quote from: jesmu84 on October 05, 2014, 04:29:53 PM
Oh look, pink. The NFL really cares about women.

Every sport has been doing this for many years.  The NFL does care about women, as consumers and fans, as wives and daughters and mothers....I have several colleagues that are women that are sr management \ execs at the NFL.  Great women.  Because some a-hole players ( a small number) were raised without daddies, entitled from the get go, have no idea how to treat women doesn't mean the entire NFL is that way.

This is about as foolish as the Coaches vs Cancer nonsense every year.  People have to bitch about something.  

Come to think of it, when Marquette wore pink uniforms last year, clearly they didn't care about cancer or women or none of that stuff....it was all self serving, especially on the heels of sexual assault only one year removed.  Cynical tsk tsk

jesmu84

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 05, 2014, 04:47:23 PM
Every sport has been doing this for many years.  The NFL does care about women, as consumers and fans, as wives and daughters and mothers....I have several colleagues that are women that are sr management \ execs at the NFL.  Great women.  Because some a-hole players ( a small number) were raised without daddies, entitled from the get go, have no idea how to treat women doesn't mean the entire NFL is that way.

This is about as foolish as the Coaches vs Cancer nonsense every year.  People have to bitch about something.  

Come to think of it, when Marquette wore pink uniforms last year, clearly they didn't care about cancer or women or none of that stuff....it was all self serving, especially on the heels of sexual assault only one year removed.  Cynical tsk tsk

Damn right I'll be cynical about the NFL and women right now. The only reason Ray Rice wasn't on the field today was PR, not anything about caring or having a moral/ethical stance. So you'll have to excuse me, I guess, when I doubt the reasoning behind the pink campaign.

I'll agree with you that the NFL cares about women from a consumer or fan standpoint, but only because $$$.

ChicosBailBonds



2009....cleats idea came from DeAngelo Williams.   One may wonder WHY it did.   I'll let a few of you do a little research, but breast cancer impacted his family   http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/08/pink-cleats-idea-came-from-deangelo-williams/

Pink bats in MLB

College basketball pink uniforms

Etc, etc

Is it a marketing ploy also?  Of course it is, one would be a fool not to think so.  No different than companies running around saying how green they are.  Or honoring military at sporting events....some of that is marketing as well.  We can be cynical all day about this stuff and part of it will be true.  Do you want them to bring awareness or not?


They should all just stop it....no more?

GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 05, 2014, 04:47:23 PM
Because some a-hole players ( a small number) were raised without daddies, entitled from the get go, have no idea how to treat women doesn't mean the entire NFL is that way.


Not quite sure why you had to throw single motherhood into the equation here.  Ray Rice was indeed raised by a single mother.  But Greg Hardy and Ray McDonald, for instance, were not.


brandx

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on October 05, 2014, 05:17:47 PM

Not quite sure why you had to throw single motherhood into the equation here.  Ray Rice was indeed raised by a single mother.  But Greg Hardy and Ray McDonald, for instance, were not.



He doesn't care about slurs when it comes to the Redskins, so why would he care about slurring blacks?

MU B2002

Quote from: MUDish on October 05, 2014, 04:46:46 PM
Interesting to see if the Bears implode by the end of October. I think bad things happen to them next week in Atlanta, assuming that happens, they'd be sitting at 2-4.

I didn't really expect anything from Jared Allen, and I realize he was sick last week and fighting back this week, but between him and Houston, Bears have gotten nothing from either one of those guys.

If the Bears are going to be bad, I'd rather have them be real bad.

What is with the play calling?  I just... I feel like typing so many things, but I just.. Need a drink.
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

brandx

Quote from: MUDish on October 05, 2014, 04:46:46 PM
Interesting to see if the Bears implode by the end of October. I think bad things happen to them next week in Atlanta, assuming that happens, they'd be sitting at 2-4.

I didn't really expect anything from Jared Allen, and I realize he was sick last week and fighting back this week, but between him and Houston, Bears have gotten nothing from either one of those guys.

If the Bears are going to be bad, I'd rather have them be real bad.

I don't think you have a lot to worry about......yet.

Looking at their schedule, I didn't see any way they could be better than 3-3 in their 1st 6 games. They are still on track although winning in Atlanta will be tough. After that, I only see @GB and @Detroit as sure losses. Anything else is winnable. But Jay better quit throwing to the other team if they are gonna make things happen. The turnovers are killing them.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 05, 2014, 04:29:53 PM
Oh look, pink. The NFL really cares about women.

Yeah, Some Cheerleaders had to sue, attempting to get Minimum wage or higher.  This NFL is full of Window Dressing!
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: MUDish on October 05, 2014, 04:46:46 PM
Interesting to see if the Bears implode by the end of October. I think bad things happen to them next week in Atlanta, assuming that happens, they'd be sitting at 2-4.

I didn't really expect anything from Jared Allen, and I realize he was sick last week and fighting back this week, but between him and Houston, Bears have gotten nothing from either one of those guys.

If the Bears are going to be bad, I'd rather have them be real bad.

Starting to think you may get your wish (and I don't think either if us would be too surprised), as I am also starting to think Trestman may be in over his head. I liked what I saw early on, and think he may be a brilliant offensive mind, but I also hear a lot of Mike Sherman in most of his pressers. Still 2/3 of the season left, but if they continue to struggle as they have, I'm probably moving on him the day the season ends.

GGGG

I don't know about the Bears.  I think Trestman seems like a good coach.  The playcalling is good.  The effort is there.  I just don't think the personnel is good enough, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

To go along with what Dish said above, the linebackers aren't all that good and the defensive line isn't living up to expectations.  (To be honest, I thought that Allen over Peppers was not going to be an upgrade, and I couldn't quite figure out why people were saying it was.)

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