Luke Fischer transferring from I4

[79Warrior]

That is probably true to some extent, but most shooters cannot get their own shot. Look at Creighton, except for McDermott the others were all shooting wide open threes. I think Jake would shoot well on Creighton, because he would good multiple open looks. He also would shoot well on the current UW team that spreads the floor and has 5 shooters on the floor. Jake is simply in the wrong offense or teamed with players that do not draw defenders away from Jake. Jake is always well covered, because there are no other threats on the team.

The first mistake folks make is calling JT a shooter. He is not.

[wadesworld]

The first mistake folks make is calling JT a shooter. He is not.

Yeah, he's only shooting 40% from 3 point range. Awful.

[brandx]

Those are not mediocre players. Dekker is a future pro. They beat out Ohio State for Nigel. Koenig would be a welcome addition on almost any team. Gasser is a very good player. Kaminsky has a lot of talent. They also have all the pieces, so they work well together. We are missing some pieces.

And everyone on the floor is an offensive threat whether they are scoring a lot or not. Makes for great spacing and few double-teams.

When the opposing big man (or PG) can't sit in the lane on defense, scoring is a lot easier to come by.

[hoops12]

"Watched the Badgers demolish Northwestern last night.  I like Buzz, but what a tremendous coaching job Bo has done with mediocre players.  He coaches "them up".  They play like one unit."

I am so tired of hearing that Bo does so much with mediocre players. I played for Bo, and he is a terrific coach. Outstanding! However, he wins with very talented kids. I have said this for years. Just because the majority of Bo's players are white, many say he has average athletes or mediocre players. That is totally a bunch of garbage from any angle you look at it. As I put in a previous post, Wisconsin's lineup is more athletic and talented than Marquette's this year.

- Dekker is every bit of athlete that J. Wilson is! He's a much better shooter and passer. He's been fundamentally sound well before he got to UW.
- Jackson is a much better athlete and basketball player than D. Wilson. It is not even close!
- Gasser is a better athlete (even after his knee issues) and a better defender than J. Thomas. Thomas is a shooter, period. Gasser is a player.
- Kaminsky is longer and more athletic than O'Tule. He is also a shooter and can run the court.
- Brust vs. Juan (forward vs. guard) but Brust is a great shooter and is an incredible rebounder for his size. He averages 12ppg, and over 5rpg.

Coming out of high school, Dekker was a (5 star) recruit. Bo does a great job of recruiting to his system. He is a terrific coach and his guys are fundamentally sound. They typically don't beat themselves.

Buzz really got stung by Vander leaving and having both Duane Wilson and Steve Taylor getting hurt. His past three years speak for themselves. We may struggle a little bit this year, but the future is bright with Buzz running the show. 

In summary, Wisconsin has a better team and better talent this year. Marquette is struggling, but has been in most games and if we had someone that could create on the perimeter, we may have a very, very good record. Both programs and coaches are top-tier! We are lucky to have both Bo and Buzz in the state of Wisconsin!

[Lennys Tap]

"Watched the Badgers demolish Northwestern last night.  I like Buzz, but what a tremendous coaching job Bo has done with mediocre players.  He coaches "them up".  They play like one unit."

I am so tired of hearing that Bo does so much with mediocre players. I played for Bo, and he is a terrific coach. Outstanding! However, he wins with very talented kids. I have said this for years. Just because the majority of Bo's players are white, many say he has average athletes or mediocre players. That is totally a bunch of garbage from any angle you look at it. As I put in a previous post, Wisconsin's lineup is more athletic and talented than Marquette's this year.

- Dekker is every bit of athlete that J. Wilson is! He's a much better shooter and passer. He's been fundamentally sound well before he got to UW.
- Jackson is a much better athlete and basketball player than D. Wilson.. It is not even close!
- Gasser is a better athlete (even after his knee issues) and a better defender than J. Thomas. Thomas is a shooter, period. Gasser is a player.
- Kaminsky is longer and more athletic than O'Tule. He is also a shooter and can run the court.
- Brust vs. Juan (forward vs. guard) but Brust is a great shooter and is an incredible rebounder for his size. He averages 12ppg, and over 5rpg.

Coming out of high school, Dekker was a (5 star) recruit. Bo does a great job of recruiting to his system. He is a terrific coach and his guys are fundamentally sound. They typically don't beat themselves.

Buzz really got stung by Vander leaving and having both Duane Wilson and Steve Taylor getting hurt. His past three years speak for themselves. We may struggle a little bit this year, but the future is bright with Buzz running the show. 

In summary, Wisconsin has a better team and better talent this year. Marquette is struggling, but has been in most games and if we had someone that could create on the perimeter, we may have a very, very good record. Both programs and coaches are top-tier! We are lucky to have both Bo and Buzz in the state of Wisconsin!

+1. Great post, Hoops

[muhoops1]

"Watched the Badgers demolish Northwestern last night.  I like Buzz, but what a tremendous coaching job Bo has done with mediocre players.  He coaches "them up".  They play like one unit."

I am so tired of hearing that Bo does so much with mediocre players. I played for Bo, and he is a terrific coach. Outstanding! However, he wins with very talented kids. I have said this for years. Just because the majority of Bo's players are white, many say he has average athletes or mediocre players. That is totally a bunch of garbage from any angle you look at it. As I put in a previous post, Wisconsin's lineup is more athletic and talented than Marquette's this year.

- Dekker is every bit of athlete that J. Wilson is! He's a much better shooter and passer. He's been fundamentally sound well before he got to UW.
- Jackson is a much better athlete and basketball player than D. Wilson. It is not even close!
- Gasser is a better athlete (even after his knee issues) and a better defender than J. Thomas. Thomas is a shooter, period. Gasser is a player.
- Kaminsky is longer and more athletic than O'Tule. He is also a shooter and can run the court.
- Brust vs. Juan (forward vs. guard) but Brust is a great shooter and is an incredible rebounder for his size. He averages 12ppg, and over 5rpg.

Coming out of high school, Dekker was a (5 star) recruit. Bo does a great job of recruiting to his system. He is a terrific coach and his guys are fundamentally sound. They typically don't beat themselves.

Buzz really got stung by Vander leaving and having both Duane Wilson and Steve Taylor getting hurt. His past three years speak for themselves. We may struggle a little bit this year, but the future is bright with Buzz running the show. 

In summary, Wisconsin has a better team and better talent this year. Marquette is struggling, but has been in most games and if we had someone that could create on the perimeter, we may have a very, very good record. Both programs and coaches are top-tier! We are lucky to have both Bo and Buzz in the state of Wisconsin!

Perhaps you played for him at Plattville or in HS.  No self respecting D1 athlete wastes his/her time on a lousy message board.  I'll give you a minute to get off your soap box...
It's message board talk...ANY D1 athlete is a superior athlete to the masses, especially losers like us on a message board.  So you've exposed yourself as a poser.

[Markusquette]

Perhaps you played for him at Plattville or in HS.  No self respecting D1 athlete wastes his/her time on a lousy message board.  I'll give you a minute to get off your soap box...
It's message board talk...ANY D1 athlete is a superior athlete to the masses, especially losers like us on a message board.  So you've exposed yourself as a poser.

What's wrong with his post?  Everything he said is true in regards to the teams and it was said with tact.  No complaints here.

[jjfanec]

"Watched the Badgers demolish Northwestern last night.  I like Buzz, but what a tremendous coaching job Bo has done with mediocre players.  He coaches "them up".  They play like one unit."

I am so tired of hearing that Bo does so much with mediocre players. I played for Bo, and he is a terrific coach. Outstanding! However, he wins with very talented kids. I have said this for years. Just because the majority of Bo's players are white, many say he has average athletes or mediocre players. That is totally a bunch of garbage from any angle you look at it. As I put in a previous post, Wisconsin's lineup is more athletic and talented than Marquette's this year.

- Dekker is every bit of athlete that J. Wilson is! He's a much better shooter and passer. He's been fundamentally sound well before he got to UW.
- Jackson is a much better athlete and basketball player than D. Wilson. It is not even close!
- Gasser is a better athlete (even after his knee issues) and a better defender than J. Thomas. Thomas is a shooter, period. Gasser is a player.
- Kaminsky is longer and more athletic than O'Tule. He is also a shooter and can run the court.
- Brust vs. Juan (forward vs. guard) but Brust is a great shooter and is an incredible rebounder for his size. He averages 12ppg, and over 5rpg.

Coming out of high school, Dekker was a (5 star) recruit. Bo does a great job of recruiting to his system. He is a terrific coach and his guys are fundamentally sound. They typically don't beat themselves.

Buzz really got stung by Vander leaving and having both Duane Wilson and Steve Taylor getting hurt. His past three years speak for themselves. We may struggle a little bit this year, but the future is bright with Buzz running the show. 

In summary, Wisconsin has a better team and better talent this year. Marquette is struggling, but has been in most games and if we had someone that could create on the perimeter, we may have a very, very good record. Both programs and coaches are top-tier! We are lucky to have both Bo and Buzz in the state of Wisconsin!

This pretty much spot on except Bo does get guys who were under the radar when he recruited them.  
Kaminsky didnt have any offers from big name schools.  DePaul and Northwestern were the best
Gasser had offers from Arizona State and Maryland but no other schools.  Not a single Big Ten or Big East school offered
Jackson had an offer from Arizona State and no one else.
Brust was a little more sought after and obviously Dekker and Koenig were top end recruits.

Bo recruits to a system but he does recruit more under the radar guys who he can develop.  I do think it is overblown how little talent is on his teams.  There is no doubt Buzz lands higher ranked guys but both do very well with what they have. Although I think Marquette's starting 5 only has 2 top 100 guys in Jamil Wilson and Juan Anderson

[MU82]

Perhaps you played for him at Plattville or in HS.  No self respecting D1 athlete wastes his/her time on a lousy message board.  I'll give you a minute to get off your soap box...
It's message board talk...ANY D1 athlete is a superior athlete to the masses, especially losers like us on a message board.  So you've exposed yourself as a poser.

What a whiny, jealous post.

I thought hoops12's comment was great. I don't know where he played for Bo, but what if it was at Platteville or in high school? How would that invalidate the many insightful comments he made?

[4everwarriors]

Basketball Dozen is basically correct. Lookin' at this year's squad, as presently constructed, I see very little major D-1 talent. So, to be successful, their defense has to be razor sharp for 40 minutes. It just isn't.

[Dawson Rental]

Perhaps you played for him at Plattville or in HS.  No self respecting D1 athlete wastes his/her time on a lousy message board.  I'll give you a minute to get off your soap box...
It's message board talk...ANY D1 athlete is a superior athlete to the masses, especially losers like us on a message board.  So you've exposed yourself as a poser.

Ahh, the value of a Jesuit education allowing me to identify the ad hominen logical fallacy.  Since you've exposed hoops12 as a "poser", I'm sure that you will have very little trouble demolishing the actual points he made.  We're waiting.....

[Freeport Warrior]

Perhaps you played for him at Plattville or in HS.  No self respecting D1 athlete wastes his/her time on a lousy message board.  I'll give you a minute to get off your soap box...
It's message board talk...ANY D1 athlete is a superior athlete to the masses, especially losers like us on a message board.  So you've exposed yourself as a poser.

You're clueless if you don't think all kinds of people — D1 athletes included — read and post to the boards. I hate this board when it attacks a guy's sources, credentials and stories. Either believe him, or don't. This post in particular was dead on. Bo knows how to coach and he isn't recruiting slow, lower-rated traditionals. Aside from Jackson (who plays an un-Bo game) he has a team that is so fundamentally sound it's sick. They don't make many mistakes and they can shoot. Sure, they will go down on a poor shooting night, but they are so solid and disciplined, they will always be in the game.  They are basically the inverse of us. BTW, I'm still laughing at the guy who said Brust v. Jake is a toss-up.

[79Warrior]

Yeah, he's only shooting 40% from 3 point range. Awful.

What happens when you toss out the ASU game?

[jjfanec]

You're clueless if you don't think all kinds of people — D1 athletes included — read and post to the boards. I hate this board when it attacks a guy's sources, credentials and stories. Either believe him, or don't. This post in particular was dead on. Bo knows how to coach and he isn't recruiting slow, lower-rated traditionals. Aside from Jackson (who plays an un-Bo game) he has a team that is so fundamentally sound it's sick. They don't make many mistakes and they can shoot. Sure, they will go down on a poor shooting night, but they are so solid and disciplined, they will always be in the game.  They are basically the inverse of us. BTW, I'm still laughing at the guy who said Brust v. Jake is a toss-up.

I dont even think Jake Thomas' own parents would pick him over Brust.  I am pretty sure Thomas and Brust were matched up in the game this year.  Thomas had 0 points and 5 fouls.  Brust had 13 points and 0 fouls.  Both had 2 rebounds.  Yeah that is a toss up

[ATL MU Warrior]

What happens when you toss out the ASU game?

Why would you toss out the ASU game?  It counted just like all the others.  Probably just so you can prove your petty point?

[forgetful]

You're clueless if you don't think all kinds of people — D1 athletes included — read and post to the boards. I hate this board when it attacks a guy's sources, credentials and stories. Either believe him, or don't. This post in particular was dead on. Bo knows how to coach and he isn't recruiting slow, lower-rated traditionals. Aside from Jackson (who plays an un-Bo game) he has a team that is so fundamentally sound it's sick. They don't make many mistakes and they can shoot. Sure, they will go down on a poor shooting night, but they are so solid and disciplined, they will always be in the game.  They are basically the inverse of us. BTW, I'm still laughing at the guy who said Brust v. Jake is a toss-up.

The key difference between them is ball handling.  Jake is a below average ball handler. 

I assure you, if we had Brust and they had Jake, the whole board would be saying that Brust isn't even a mid-major player and shouldn't be getting off the bench.  Meanwhile Jake would be putting up 12 a game and shooting in the mid 40's for 3.

[MuMark]

Hoops played for him at Platteville and his father was an all time great at MU...

You are the poser.....

Perhaps you played for him at Plattville or in HS.  No self respecting D1 athlete wastes his/her time on a lousy message board.  I'll give you a minute to get off your soap box...
It's message board talk...ANY D1 athlete is a superior athlete to the masses, especially losers like us on a message board.  So you've exposed yourself as a poser.

[wadesworld]

What happens when you toss out the ASU game?

What happens when you take away every game but the ASU game?

What's the point?

[goldeneagle91114]

Any update on Fischer? Has he listed any schools he is going to consider?

[4everwarriors]

Anyone see him at today's game?

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Any update on Fischer? Has he listed any schools he is going to consider?

Nope, no news the past few days.

[keefe]

Why would you toss out the ASU game?  It counted just like all the others.  Probably just so you can prove your petty point?

I have no idea of the specifics of this case but if the ASU game can be proven to be a statistical outlier then it could be relevant to discount that data point.

[keefe]

Hoops played for him at Platteville and his father was an all time great at MU...

You are the poser.....

Murf's kid played at Platteville for Bo Ryan??

[madtownwarrior]

Was looking behind MU bench  - did not see him, just saw an uninterested JJJ...

Anyone see him at today's game?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

So you've exposed yourself as a poser.

Which is better than what you've exposed yourself as.