2013 NFC North/NFL Thread

[jesmu84]

I gave you a rational argument with supporting facts on why the injury isn't as catastrophic as you are making it out to be, and you hide behind the Packer fan, green and gold glasses and meathead fan argument?   I think you should look at yourself Bear fan. 

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure PTM just pointed out that he is a Packers fan.

[hairy worthen]

Speaking in generalizations, I've always found Packers fans to be a unique breed. They are probably more knowledgeable about their own team than any fan base in the league, but abstraction and objective football discussion often evades them. They are more likely to take observations about their team as an insult than perhaps any other fan base in the league. I have no argument that they are among, if not the most passionate fan bases in the league, but it's a very exceptionalistic type of passion.

Most of the points you make are generalizations about all fans and particularly nfl fans. The comments made by Bear fans are slanted and made from their perspective as well.   Speaking in generalizations, as you say, I find Bear fans extremely arrogant, and they have no reason to be.

[Spotcheck Billy]

how about that Vince Young eh?
Bulaga is alright but he ain't the greatest left tackle, oh wait, he's never played that position in the NFL yet has he?

Too bad Tretter broke his leg in May, he could've added some now needed depth

[hairy worthen]

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure PTM just pointed out that he is a Packers fan.

Perhaps.  That's not how I read it and based on some of his recent previous posts.


So what it is it PTM?  

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I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure PTM just pointed out that he is a Packers fan.

Blinders still on. Seeing red when the Pack was criticized.

[hairy worthen]

Blinders still on. Seeing red when the Pack was criticized.

You are wrong about the blinders and the criticism.  Go back and read my recent posts. I acknowledged it is a bad setback for the team. I do not agree with you that it is season changing injury, and I gave reasons why. How does that make me have blinders on or seeing red.

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You are wrong about the blinders and the criticism.  Go back and read my recent posts. I acknowledged it is a bad setback for the team. I do not agree with you that it is season changing injury, and I gave reasons why. How does that make me have blinders on or seeing red.

I wasn't really referring to you, but Wiz.

[hairy worthen]

I wasn't really referring to you, but Wiz.

ok, I have a soft spot in my heart for Wiz because he is a Packer fan.

[ATWizJr]

I wasn't really referring to you, but Wiz.

Awww, I didn't know you cared!

[Dish]

Preseason can't end soon enough for the Pack. Cobb leaves practice hurt, Nelson has surgery, hopes to return for opener.

[GGGG]

Speaking in generalizations, I've always found Packers fans to be a unique breed. They are probably more knowledgeable about their own team than any fan base in the league, but abstraction and objective football discussion often evades them. They are more likely to take observations about their team as an insult than perhaps any other fan base in the league. I have no argument that they are among, if not the most passionate fan bases in the league, but it's a very exceptionalistic type of passion.

I am a Packer fan and I would go one step further.  I think Packer fans know a lot about their team and are indeed very passionate about their team.  But as a function of the fan-base's size, I think the average Packer fan has the football knowledge of a shrew. 

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I am a Packers fan.

Injuries are starting to stack up. Not too worried about Jordy, but not expecting him to be full strength for the first 4.

[Hards Alumni]

I am a Packer fan and I would go one step further.  I think Packer fans know a lot about their team and are indeed very passionate about their team.  But as a function of the fan-base's size, I think the average Packer fan has the football knowledge of a shrew. 

Absolutely wrong.  I think there was an article a few years ago that showed that Packers fans are the most knowledgeable.

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Absolutely wrong.  I think there was an article a few years ago that showed that Packers fans are the most knowledgeable.

26% of NFL players said they were the most knowledgeable, so you are correct.

I do tend to side with Sultan's assesment though, they know they're team and the division. However, saying something critical of the team and you get this guy:



Example - I was discussing injuries to Bulaga, Cobb and Jordy with a guy on a site this afternoon. I was a bit down on the Bulaga injury and that Jordy was going to be behind. It then seemed like I was arguing with Wiz, I ended the discussion when the guy questioned me if I was a shareholder or not.

[Sunbelt15]

Preseason can't end soon enough

Period. It's the worst part of the season for everyone. You lose good, meaningful players to meaningless games. Preseason should be shortened to one or two games because of the game's brutality and physical ness.

[damuts222]

Period. It's the worst part of the season for everyone. You lose good, meaningful players to meaningless games. Preseason should be shortened to one or two games because of the game's brutality and physical ness.

Most of these guys are getting hurt in scrimmages and practice.  Barely any preseason games have been played.

[Sunbelt15]

Most of these guys are getting hurt in scrimmages and practice.  Barely any preseason games have been played.

I'm considering every year.

[GGGG]

Absolutely wrong.  I think there was an article a few years ago that showed that Packers fans are the most knowledgeable.

Well, that is a damning indictment of football fans everywhere then.

[hairy worthen]

Well, that is a damning indictment of football fans everywhere then.

Have you ever spoken to the average Cowboy fan, or Falcon fan, or Houston fan, etc. they are basically morons about football and the reality of their teams. Many cowboy fans think their team is entitled to win the Super Bowl every year.  I am not speaking of everybody, but the fans as a whole.

Packer fans are on the upper end of general football knowledge and knowledge of their own team, and many unbiased sources have said and wrote as much. Do they get defensive? Maybe that is a fair statement, but that doesn't mean every opinion of a packer fan is colored with green and gold glasses as some suggest. It works both ways, and their is plenty of blue and orange glasses floating around this particular site as well.

[Blackhat]

We've got him. Matt Cassel.

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Well, that is a damning indictment of football fans everywhere then.

+1

[Blackhat]

Packers fan here.  Reigning MUScoop Fantasy Football Champion so we know I know more than everyone here about the NFL.  

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

+1

Football fans in general are the most meatheaded (my unscientific research).

Packers fans are knowledgeable, but they do consider the Packers the crown jewel of sports, and anybody that says ANYTHING against them, is automatically some sort of hater... and thus the meatheaded reaction begins.

The Vikes have their share of white trash fans who seem to just carry around too much anger... and far too many of them wear face paint. It's disturbing the amount of face paint at a Vikes game.

Bear fans always want more defense, RUN THE BALL!, and they want every player to give 110%, "Just like Butkus!" The post game radio shows are EPIC when they lose.

I don't know anything about Detroit fans.

[hairy worthen]

Football fans in general are the most meatheaded (my unscientific research).

Packers fans are knowledgeable, but they do consider the Packers the crown jewel of sports, and anybody that says ANYTHING against them, is automatically some sort of hater... and thus the meatheaded reaction begins.

The Vikes have their share of white trash fans who seem to just carry around too much anger... and far too many of them wear face paint. It's disturbing the amount of face paint at a Vikes game.

Bear fans always want more defense, RUN THE BALL!, and they want every player to give 110%, "Just like Butkus!" The post game radio shows are EPIC when they lose.

I don't know anything about Detroit fans.

Dead on correct. I get great enjoyment tuning into Bernstein and Boores (sp) after the Bears lose to the Packers. Very entertaining.

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The Vikes have their share of white trash fans who seem to just carry around too much anger jealousy ... and far too many of them wear face paint. It's disturbing the amount of face paint at a Vikes game.

Fixed.