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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 06, 2013, 09:10:16 PM
Draft Express doesn't think not even honorable mention All Big 10 player Mitch McGary is even a second rounder. From what I see he's a lottery pick if he comes out.

A lottery pick that averaged 7.4 points per game  ::)


Maybe you need a bigger sample size, which is what NBA GMs and Draft Express will be doing....7 of the previous 9 games leading into the tournament less than 10 points per game, including 2 against IU, 0 against Penn State, then 4 against Penn State, etc.  He tends to disappear a bunch in games.  He's having a wonderful tournament, so are a lot of guys.




Otule's Glass Eye

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 06, 2013, 09:10:16 PM
Draft Express doesn't think that the not even honorable mention All Big 10 player Mitch McGary is even a second rounder. From what I see he's a lottery pick if he comes out.

McGary didn't do crap until the tournament. He literally came out of nowhere in these tourney games. Only averaged 7 points and 6 boards in the regular season.

MUFlutieEffect

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 06, 2013, 05:23:19 PM
Draft Express has Vander listed at #21 in the 2014 draft...one spot above Hardaway. Why wouldn't he throw his hat in the ring during the early entry process and withdraw if interest is not there for 2013?

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2014/

That mock draft begins with four high school players - guys who aren't even draft-eligible.  Hardly a fair assessment.
The Flutie Effect: "A significant and positive correlation between a university having a successful team and higher quality of incoming freshmen, alumni donations, and graduation rates."

- The Economist, January 3rd, 2007

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2013, 09:13:34 PM
A lottery pick that averaged 7.4 points per game  ::)








Laugh all you want. If he comes out I say he's a lottery pick. How much would you like to wager?

GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2013, 09:13:34 PM
A lottery pick that averaged 7.4 points per game  ::)


Yeah...NBA look at nothing but cumulative stats over a freshman year.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

NotThosePackers

I don't get the whole thing with the stationary. Why remove a succcesful player from promotional materials either way?

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 06, 2013, 09:19:33 PM

Yeah...NBA look at nothing but cumulative stats over a freshman year.

And they're supposed to ignore his body of work and throw millions of dollars and a draft selection around what someone does in 5 games?   

Not many GMs last long with that kind of thinking.  Did you see Butler players going in the first round, let alone lottery picks, despite having great NCAA tournaments a few years ago?  As a GM I would want to know with your size and ability, how did you score 6 points total in two games against Penn State University?  I would want to know why you scored only 2 points against the juggernaut that is Nebraska basketball?  Or 2 points against Bradley, Indiana, West Virginia, Pitt or the other juggernaut, IUPUI?   I would want to know why in two games against Northwestern, you got 10 points total. 

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 06, 2013, 09:19:18 PM
Laugh all you want. If he comes out I say he's a lottery pick. How much would you like to wager?

Well, first off, if he is a lottery pick this year, which is exactly what you are suggesting, he is a fool not to come out.  Michigan guys are smart.  So I'll take the bet, but I should win if he doesn't even come out because then he's admitting (along with his peeps) that he wasn't good enough to be a lottery pick.  No way a lottery pick stays in....so if you are willing to TRULY back what you are saying and you win if he is a lottery pick, I win if he isn't (which includes not even coming out), then you have a bet.


Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2013, 09:25:34 PM
And they're supposed to ignore his body of work and throw millions of dollars and a draft selection around what someone does in 5 games?   

Not many GMs last long with that kind of thinking.  Did you see Butler players going in the first round, let alone lottery picks, despite having great NCAA tournaments a few years ago?  As a GM I would want to know with your size and ability, how did you score 6 points total in two games against Penn State University?  I would want to know why you scored only 2 points against the juggernaut that is Nebraska basketball?  Or 2 points against Bradley, Indiana, West Virginia, Pitt or the other juggernaut, IUPUI?   I would want to know why in two games against Northwestern, you got 10 points total. 

See Hayward, Gordon

ChicosBailBonds


4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

ChicosBailBonds


4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2013, 09:27:19 PM
Well, first off, if he is a lottery pick this year, which is exactly what you are suggesting, he is a fool not to come out.  Michigan guys are smart.  So I'll take the bet, but I should win if he doesn't even come out because then he's admitting (along with his peeps) that he wasn't good enough to be a lottery pick.  No way a lottery pick stays in....so if you are willing to TRULY back what you are saying and you win if he is a lottery pick, I win if he isn't (which includes not even coming out), then you have a bet.



I said what I said. If he comes out, he a lottery pick. If he doesn't we'll never know. You really expect to be paid if he decides to stay in school? Lot's of guys who would be lottery picks opt out of the draft. Your boy Cody did last year.

Otule's Glass Eye


PuertoRicanNightmare

McGary is from Indiana. Chicos is upset that Crean cooled on him.

4everwarriors

JC, McGary trailin' on the break is a game breaker.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

PuertoRicanNightmare

Think Beilein will claim McGary couldn't make a layup when he arrived on campus like Crean did with Bob Jackson?

4everwarriors

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2013, 09:28:38 PM
Trey Burke, National POY

Guard


Championships are won with big men. See Monday's game with Dieng vs McGary
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 06, 2013, 09:46:28 PM

Championships are won with big men. See Monday's game with Dieng vs McGary

How tall was Kimba Walker?

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 06, 2013, 09:37:31 PM
I said what I said. If he comes out, he a lottery pick. If he doesn't we'll never know. You really expect to be paid if he decides to stay in school? Lot's of guys who would be lottery picks opt out of the draft. Your boy Cody did last year.

I'd expect a lottery pick to average 15 points per game, not 7.  I'd want to know why he disappeared in half their games this year.  Is it desire?  Lack of it?  Maybe the NBA will engineer the brutal Nebraska, IUPUI, Penn State defense around him to slow him down from his future Hall of Fame career (I'm teasing, I think the kid is good, really good, but he is so inconsistent it's incredible)

PuertoRicanNightmare

McGary looks like the second coming of Dave Cowens.


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