The Everlasting Craptastical Mystery Thread

[GGGG]

Well, thank you for your perspective muguru.  I am done with the speculation until we know for certain what is going on.  We will see what happens.

[mr.MUskie]

Yeah, c'mon Buzz!  You say "your assistants" read this stuff and pass it along to you, so how about coming on here and putting out this fire once and for all.

[Lighthouse 84]

I'm taking the position that there's no way Buzz leaves this year with Junior (his son) here for one more year.

[muguru]

It would be the mother of all gut punches if Buzz Williams were to leave Marquette for Southern Methodist University or any other school.

He has stated publicly and repeatedly that he wants to be at Marquette for as long as Marquette will have him.

Buzz is honest and a man of integrity. He says what he means and means what he says.

And because he says what he means and means what he says, Buzz should state for all to hear and read that Marquette is home.

I bolded the key part for you.

[mviale]

I hate that every year we have to suffer a loss and then rumors of our coach leaving.  Enough already

[Goose]

Buzz leaving would be kick in  the balls. Probably would be the final push I need to de-emphasize sports in my life. First Favre to Vikings, Prince to Tigers and then....  Really think it would break my desire to care about our teams.

[muguru]

I'm taking the position that there's no way Buzz leaves this year with Junior (his son) here for one more year.

My intial thoughts when this first broke was the same thing as you. There is NO WAY Buzz could leave those kids. And he couldn't/wouldn't, unless.....it's not his choice.

[Tugg Speedman]

If Buzz wants out, why SMU?  Why not talk to Illinois, or Kansas State when Martin leaves?  South Carolina or any other job that will inevitably open up in the next few days.  Why take this (basketball speaking) backwater job?  For the money?  They will run him out of town in three years if he does not produce.  See Matt Doherty.   And the standard of "produce" will be really high given his pay check.

If Buzz put living in Dallas ahead of the team/school, he is killing his career.

It just doesn't make a lot of sense.

[mviale]

Until Buzz speaks. This is ALL BS from men in their basements.

[Golden Avalanche]

My intial thoughts when this first broke was the same thing as you. There is NO WAY Buzz could leave those kids. And he couldn't/wouldn't, unless.....it's not his choice.

If the Administration is as pissed and displeased as you believe it to be, why not just fire him?

Sure, you take the hit on buyouts and a few confused looks but it would then give them the bully pulpit they seem to want to "right the wrongs" of the program and set the standard for a new one.

If they have the balls to think this will work, then show those balls to all the public. I don't see it.

[Clam Crowder]

Why would MU silently push him away anyway? and why would he choose SMU if he was being pushed...this really is idiotic from the so-called guru. Buzz will be back.

[warthog-driver]

say it enough times
baseless rumor becomes fact
buzz is not leaving

[real chili 83]

Until Buzz speaks. This is ALL BS from men in their basements.

Speak for yourself.  I am in my garage - man cave....watching Ax Men!  Buzz kinda reminds me of Shelby......

[warthog-driver]

nothing more bizarre
than montana as a chief
musial extinct

[4everwarriors]

That's all we'd be if the BOT, Pilarz, and Larry blow up the byline of this university.

[🏀]

That's all we'd be if the BOT, Pilarz, and Larry blow up the byline of this university.

+1

[warthog-driver]

horrific odor
gut wrenching eye watering
real chili for lunch

[reinko]

Took a mid major to the final four. He is already proven if u ask me

Totally gotcha.  Yeah, I am on board.  If Buzz leaves, I agree, MU should try to find a qualified replacement.  I was totally leaning toward MU hiring some crumb bum with no upside.  Thanks again.

[🏀]

Totally gotcha.  Yeah, I am on board.  If Buzz leaves, I agree, MU should try to find a qualified replacement.  I was totally leaning toward MU hiring some crumb bum with no upside.  Thanks again.

I was thinking Darrin Horn as well.

[79Warrior]

He will respond to any email honestly, send an email and hell probably tell you exactly how he feels.

I have had several email exchanges with Buzz. My most recent was sent Friday. Radio silence since then.

[muguru]

Why would MU silently push him away anyway? and why would he choose SMU if he was being pushed...this really is idiotic from the so-called guru. Buzz will be back.

Because even though it's a step down(ok more then one step, about 1,000 steps down), it's in Texas. Illinois isn't, Kansas State isn't, no other job that's open is. So.....if he's being pushed out, he either: A. Takes a lesser job that is at least home, or B. Go to a higher profile job that isn't home. C. Doesn't Coach anywhere until something he likes opens up(not realistic).

I think it's human nature when one faces adversity, and you are away from home, going back home helps provide some level of comfort and relief to better cope with the trauma.

As far as why they would "silently" push him away....because if they fire him, they would get absolutely run through the ringer for it. This way, they can TRY to spin it as Buzz is the bad guy and he took the SMU job on his own volition, and they are off the hook.

I really hope Buzz stays and things can get smoothed over, but there are definitely bad under tones surrounding this one, and I wouldn't be so quick to laugh it off as not being possible.

[Hoopaloop]

1. Correctly pronounce the names of major donors.

He has trouble pronouncing the name DICK STRONG.

I find that hard to believe for a man of his education.  Did he call corpsman and pronounce CORPSE MAN?  Smart people make mistakes, especially early on in the job.

[Hoopaloop]

From a donor and alum that would know. It's not that hard to figure out either. If LW and FP cared as much about the BB program as Father Wild and Cottingham did, they would A. Let Buzz run his program the way he sees fit(without cheating of course), let him bring in the type of kids he needs/wants to bring in to try to take MU to the next level, and let him run the basketball operation. They aren't. They are trying to dictate to Buzz how THEY want to see things run. B. If you care about the BB program, you understand that by running Buzz out, the fall out will be astronomical. Almost all(if not all) the current players will leave, the recruits will de commit, and no Coach worth his salt will come in under those circumstances. C. LW now views the current BE(or soon to be current BE) as more of a "mid major" conference than a major conference, and because of that, thinks MU will never achieve greater than Sweet 16's. He figures he can get that from pretty much any Coach, that he doesn't have to pay elite wages to. IOW, they don't feel like they will ever get the return on their investment that they are currently paying, at least not with the "new" vision they have for how the BB side of things should be run(rumblings they MAY be looking at raising the academic standards for incoming athletes....like ND).

Run it as he sees fit.  So should he even have a boss?  Should he have any accountability at all, or just run it as he sees fit and whatever happens happens.  If the team gets his university on the front pages for unsavory activity, it's ok because he should be able to run it as he sees fit.

I'd suggest you become a college basketball fan of Kentucky or Memphis where this stuff truly is allowed.

[KipsBayEagle]

I hate that every year we have to suffer a loss and then rumors of our coach leaving.  Enough already

Certainly can't blame Buzz for this.  he says he is staying here, and that nothing will change that.  So far he has been true to his word, and we still have no reason to doubt him.  Trust him!

[MU Avenue]

That's all we'd be if the BOT, Pilarz, and Larry blow up the byline of this university.

4everwarriors, I do not understand your opening comment in this thread -- "... blow up the byline of this university."

What does that mean?

Blow up the byline?

Huhhhhh? You have to translate that one.