So....What are we ranked on Monday - 1/6/2025?

[MUeng]

Ugh. Just a quick look.

I think we need to beat the Bonnie's to be ranked.

Who falls out? Maryland and Ohio state?

No one else in the top 25 lost this week.

probably right. Unless they go the CFP approach and just arbitrarily move teams around based on the "eye test"

[Its DJOver]

Other receiving votes regardless of what happens tomorrow.  You also have to look at who in the 20-25 range lost this past week.  Currently the only loss in that range was Maryland, they'll certainly drop out, but then you gotta look at who was already receiving votes.  Seton Hall are a lock to get in after winning @ #4 Mich. BYU are a lock to get in after destroying #12 Oregon.  MSU destroyed Butler, which might get them close.  All three were already receiving votes.  I don't think #19 Ohio State would drop far enough with a close road loss @X for us to jump them.  Same with #17 Tenn and #18 UNC unless they get destroyed by Purdue or Nova.  There just won't be enough losses ahead of us to go from no votes to top 25 in a week.

[Scoop Snoop]

Other receiving votes regardless of what happens tomorrow.  You also have to look at who in the 20-25 range lost this past week.  Currently the only loss in that range was Maryland, they'll certainly drop out, but then you gotta look at who was already receiving votes.  Seton Hall are a lock to get in after winning @ #4 Mich. BYU are a lock to get in after destroying #12 Oregon.  MSU destroyed Butler, which might get them close.  All three were already receiving votes.  I don't think #19 Ohio State would drop far enough with a close road loss @X for us to jump them.  Same with #17 Tenn and #18 UNC unless they get destroyed by Purdue or Nova.  There just won't be enough losses ahead of us to go from no votes to top 25 in a week.

I'm hoping you're wrong but thinking you're right. It's possible but there is some traffic that MU will need to navigate through (or maybe I should say the voters).

[brewcity77]

Other receiving votes regardless of what happens tomorrow.  You also have to look at who in the 20-25 range lost this past week.  Currently the only loss in that range was Maryland, they'll certainly drop out, but then you gotta look at who was already receiving votes.  Seton Hall are a lock to get in after winning @ #4 Mich. BYU are a lock to get in after destroying #12 Oregon.  MSU destroyed Butler, which might get them close.  All three were already receiving votes.  I don't think #19 Ohio State would drop far enough with a close road loss @X for us to jump them.  Same with #17 Tenn and #18 UNC unless they get destroyed by Purdue or Nova.  There just won't be enough losses ahead of us to go from no votes to top 25 in a week.

This early in the season, teams can move a lot more. I think Oregon drops out, as will Ohio State, Maryland, and if we beat them, the Bonnies. I think we get in somewhere from 23-25.

[Its DJOver]

This early in the season, teams can move a lot more. I think Oregon drops out, as will Ohio State, Maryland, and if we beat them, the Bonnies. I think we get in somewhere from 23-25.

Even if they drop Oregon, OSU, Mary, and StB, I still think the line to get into the top 25 goes BYU, SH, X, MSU.  Not to mention that Vtech, I4, Texas Tech, and FSU all had undefeated weeks (although FSU only had one game and are still only a week removed from getting thrashed by UF).  I just think it's too much for a one week stretch.  The good news is, that if we beat St. B, with all the other Thanksgiving weekend tourney's going on, I think a win in our lone game against Northern Illinois would be enough to get us ranked in two weeks time.

[PGsHeroes32]

Let's win tomorrow so we can all see whose right and wrong!

[brewcity77]

Even if they drop Oregon, OSU, Mary, and StB, I still think the line to get into the top 25 goes BYU, SH, X, MSU.  Not to mention that Vtech, I4, Texas Tech, and FSU all had undefeated weeks (although FSU only had one game and are still only a week removed from getting thrashed by UF).  I just think it's too much for a one week stretch.  The good news is, that if we beat St. B, with all the other Thanksgiving weekend tourney's going on, I think a win in our lone game against Northern Illinois would be enough to get us ranked in two weeks time.

We're getting far more national attention right now than XU, MSU, or anyone other than BYU & Seton Hall that you mention. Beating two ranked teams and two more otherwise undefeated high majors would vault us ahead of almost all the receiving votes category. The advantage of playing an early tournament is we've had 4 statement game opportunities while most everyone else is playing buy games.

[Its DJOver]

We're getting far more national attention right now than XU, MSU, or anyone other than BYU & Seton Hall that you mention. Beating two ranked teams and two more otherwise undefeated high majors would vault us ahead of almost all the receiving votes category. The advantage of playing an early tournament is we've had 4 statement game opportunities while most everyone else is playing buy games.

SH is a lock, BYU is a lock, voters love Izzo and all they'll see is a 20 point road win over a high major, if you're going to drop OSU a lot of people will just swap them with X, and as much as it might be unfair to us, a lot of that attention we got was due to a lack of Kofi, and I could certainly see some voters both not giving us enough credit and not dropping Ill enough because of that.  Hope I'm wrong but again just think it's too large a gap this early.  Also, is not being ranked at the end of Nov really that big of a deal, Shaka talked post Ill about how not many people outside the locker room were giving us a chance, personally I wouldn't mind that chip staying on the players shoulders.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

This early in the season you don't need teams ahead of you to lose to move up in the rankings. The rankings are fluid enough that if you're playing better than someone ranked, you'll leapfrog them.

Unfortunately,  a lot of voters rely heavily on KenPom and other metrics. Wouldn't be surprised if we didn't crack the top 25 because of those numbers.

[Goose]

We will get extra attention due to Shaka and national attention. If we win tomorrow, I think they crack the top 25.

[romey]

This early in the season you don't need teams ahead of you to lose to move up in the rankings. The rankings are fluid enough that if you're playing better than someone ranked, you'll leapfrog them.

Unfortunately,  a lot of voters rely heavily on KenPom and other metrics. Wouldn't be surprised if we didn't crack the top 25 because of those numbers.

I agree Tamu.  An age-old problem with the polls is; teams don't drop down as long as they keep winning.  That makes a hell of a lot more sense later in the year than it does now IMO.  The pre-season/early season rankings don't have a lot of current data backing them up.  Reputation, previous season results, returning players, new coaches, recruiting classes, all come into play.  But there's still an element of wild-ass-guessing.  So a 2 6-0 teams are not necessarily an apples to apples comparison.  I believe we have a pretty impressive 6-0 record. with a W vs. the Bonnies tomorrow.

[dgies9156]

We will get extra attention due to Shaka and national attention. If we win tomorrow, I think they crack the top 25.

If we win tomorrow, a lot of people will be up
Nights worried about playing us. Beat another Top 25 team and, yikes!

We will be noticed and that's what matters.

[MU82]

This early in the season you don't need teams ahead of you to lose to move up in the rankings. The rankings are fluid enough that if you're playing better than someone ranked, you'll leapfrog them.

Unfortunately,  a lot of voters rely heavily on KenPom and other metrics. Wouldn't be surprised if we didn't crack the top 25 because of those numbers.

TAMU! Every time someone uses this thread to say -- "This early in the season you don't need teams ahead of you to lose to move up in the rankings" -- with games still left to play before the next rankings we lose the next game! Hopefully we buck the trend but if we don't, the loss is on you 

[JustinLewisFanClubPres]

We will get extra attention due to Shaka and national attention. If we win tomorrow, I think they crack the top 25.

Goose has not been wrong once yet re Shaka's MU experience so I'm leaning towards this. 😉

[Scoop Snoop]

If we win tomorrow, a lot of people will be up
Nights worried about playing us. Beat another Top 25 team and, yikes!

We will be noticed and that's what matters.

Love the (good) attention for Marquette this season and yeah, being noticed matters, especially by future recruits and transfers. Being ranked anywhere in the top 25 would be so great to see, but I'm not as sure as some others here that winning tomorrow will get us ranked this Monday.

[brewcity77]

We are 7th out of the poll, receiving 41 votes. That's 41 more votes than I expected this season, so I'd call that a successful week!

[Galway Eagle]

We are 7th out of the poll, receiving 41 votes. That's 41 more votes than I expected this season, so I'd call that a successful week!

Those who voted for us must be really high on the Bonnies

[JakeBarnes]

Those who voted for us must be really high on the Bonnies

I think being 5-1 against the 2nd toughest schedule thus far doesn't hurt either. And bonnies jumped 6 spots today.

[YaBlueIt]

We are 7th out of the poll, receiving 41 votes. That's 41 more votes than I expected this season, so I'd call that a successful week!

Last night was a learning experience for the team. If you had told me two weeks ago that the team would start 5-1, get to the final round of Charleston, and would come out receiving votes in the AP Poll, I would ask for some of whatever you're smoking. Incredible start for Shaka and the team, despite last night's dud.

[warriorchick]

Does anyone have the link where the poll results are broken out by voter?  I can't seem to find it.

[Marquette4life]

Does anyone have the link where the poll results are broken out by voter?  I can't seem to find it.

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/grid/2021/week-3

[brewcity77]

I looked at the teams ahead of us in the poll. While we have a home game with Northern Illinois this week, which should be a comfortable win (though not based on our first buy games)...

• 19 Auburn, 22 UConn, and 31 Michigan State are in Atlantis, where the favorite is Baylor.
  
• 21 Seton Hall, 23 Florida, and 28 Ohio State are in Fort Myers.
  
• 25 Xavier and 27 Virginia Tech are at Barclays where the favorite is Memphis.
  
• 26 Oregon is at Maui in Vegas, where the favorite is probably Houston.

That's 9 teams playing in major events where at least 5 of them will take a loss. That total will likely be higher and some will take multiple losses. There's a chance we will either be ranked or really close to knocking on that door if we handle NIU on Saturday.

[warriorchick]

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/grid/2021/week-3

Thanks!

[YaBlueIt]

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/grid/2021/week-3

David Jablonski's submission is... interesting

[lawdog77]

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/grid/2021/week-3

Thanks. Getting big love from writers from Austin and Dayton. I find that humorous.