So....What are we ranked on Monday - 1/6/2025?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

They should really get rid of the margin (capped or uncapped) altogether. Since margin is baked into efficiency, they are essentially giving bonus points for margin up to 10.

I think that is in there to discourage running up the score.  Math wise it makes no sense.  Purely PR.

[MUMountin]

The NET has 5 components.  Efficiency is component 2, (capped) scoring margin is component 5.  I am talking about component 1: team value index.

This component is an algorithm based on opponent,  location, and result.  Yes, it is a total mystery what exactly the "opponent" factor is, but this is where I think the quantity of Q4 games matter.  Again, since the NET formula and weighting is unknown, it's just my guess.  Hopefully this better explains my thought process.

This was my understanding as well. 

[dgies9156]

Just run the table and none of this will matter!!!!!!!!!!!!   

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The NET has 5 components.  Efficiency is component 2, (capped) scoring margin is component 5.  I am talking about component 1: team value index.

This component is an algorithm based on opponent,  location, and result.  Yes, it is a total mystery what exactly the "opponent" factor is, but this is where I think the quantity of Q4 games matter.  Again, since the NET formula and weighting is unknown, it's just my guess.  Hopefully this better explains my thought process.

Interesting, I understood component 1 differently, but after doing some research you are correct. When they talked about result I assumed that result wasn't just W/L but would include margin.

[Herman Cain]

Interesting, I understood component 1 differently, but after doing some research you are correct. When they talked about result I assumed that result wasn't just W/L but would include margin.

My gut instinct is that your gut instinct on NET  and the cupcake blow out factor is correct.

[MUfanatic45]

Back in the top 10

[Marquette4life]

Back in the top 10

could LSU jump us?

[CountryRoads]

could LSU jump us?

Lost at Florida this week so it would be a joke if so. Speaking of that game, I'm not very impressed with Tennessee's resume. I think we are closer to passing them than it may seem.

[BM1090]

could LSU jump us?

Only if voters don't penalize them for losing to Florida at home.

[Marquette4life]

Only if voters don't penalize them for losing to Florida at home.

kind of forgot about this lol thx

[brewcity77]

Lost at Florida this week so it would be a joke if so. Speaking of that game, I'm not very impressed with Tennessee's resume. I think we are closer to passing them than it may seem.

Agreed completely. After the Tennessee loss to Kentucky I looked closer at their resume and it's not that great. Both them and Michigan State look passable.

[SoCalEagle]

As Brew says, Tennessee lost.

Either Michigan or Michigan State will lose tomorrow. 

Would be great to see either Houston or Nevada lose tonight. Not likely, but could happen.

[CountryRoads]

As Brew says, Tennessee lost.

Either Michigan or Michigan State will lose tomorrow. 

Would be great to see either Houston or Nevada lose tonight. Not likely, but could happen.

MU will be ranked ahead of Nevada for sure. They lost this week. My question is (and this may be a strong take) but ... should Nevada start sweating if they lose tonight? I'm pretty sure they have not played a Quad 1 game all season. That is actually difficult to do.

[MuMark]

MU will be ranked ahead of Nevada for sure. They lost this week. My question is (and this may be a strong take) but ... should Nevada start sweating if they lose tonight? I'm pretty sure they have not played a Quad 1 game all season. That is actually difficult to do.

No they shouldn't...... remember the committee had them as the 14th best team on the S curve only 2 weeks ago......they've lost 1 game since then......and the bubble has only gotten worse.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-bracket-preview-committee-puts-duke-as-top-overall-seed-tennessee-virginia-gonzaga-also-no-1s/

[brewcity77]

MU will be ranked ahead of Nevada for sure. They lost this week. My question is (and this may be a strong take) but ... should Nevada start sweating if they lose tonight? I'm pretty sure they have not played a Quad 1 game all season. That is actually difficult to do.

They won't be on the bubble, but a protected seed could be a tough ask. Probably a 5/6 right now and any more losses could have them staring down a 1/2 seed as soon as the first weekend.

[MUfanatic45]

MU will be ranked ahead of Nevada for sure. They lost this week. My question is (and this may be a strong take) but ... should Nevada start sweating if they lose tonight? I'm pretty sure they have not played a Quad 1 game all season. That is actually difficult to do.

They won't sweat the bubble but they might really close to being a 7 seed.

[Carl]

Holy crap.  If this keeps up I'd wager Texas Tech jumps us

[Johnny B]

When is the last time kansas lost by 30 or more

[brewcity77]

Good one in Reno. Fresno State leads at Nevada. 62-60 with under 5 to play.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

I can't tell if we should be rooting for Nevada or against them. It's be nice to jump them in the poll, but I don't want us to get sent out west again.

[forgetful]

Good one in Reno. Fresno State leads at Nevada. 62-60 with under 5 to play.

I fully expect for us to see them in the 2nd round. Either as a 4-5 matchup with the story line (us both being seeded too low), or as a 3-6 matchup (with the story line of Nevada being closer to a 3 seed than a 6 seed).

[CountryRoads]

I fully expect for us to see them in the 2nd round. Either as a 4-5 matchup with the story line (us both being seeded too low), or as a 3-6 matchup (with the story line of Nevada being closer to a 3 seed than a 6 seed).

...in San Jose lol

[Johnny B]

I fully expect for us to see them in the 2nd round. Either as a 4-5 matchup with the story line (us both being seeded too low), or as a 3-6 matchup (with the story line of Nevada being closer to a 3 seed than a 6 seed).

That is silly to expect. Could it happen? Sure.. but quite unlikely that match up takes place. I think they grab a 5 seed. And very low chance we end up in the same chunk of raw bracket anyways.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Holy crap.  If this keeps up I'd wager Texas Tech jumps us

I'd be surprised. Beating Kansas by 30 is more impressive than beatdowns of Butler and at Providence, but I don't think more impressive enough to over come the 264 vote gap between us and them.

[JakeBarnes]

I'd be surprised. Beating Kansas by 30 is more impressive than beatdowns of Butler and at Providence, but I don't think more impressive enough to over come the 264 vote gap between us and them.

This. Gotta do more than that.