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wadesworld

Quote from: jsglow on December 17, 2018, 09:45:22 PM
Don't jinx us brother.  Just win.

Yeah.  The number next to our name will take care of itself if the number in the win column grows by 1 every game we play.

Cream Biggums

Graham Couch with Buffalo at 7, and has Big Ten programs overrated all over the place.  Bucky at 10, Nebraska at 13, Iowa at 15, and Maryland at 19. Oh and he also has Kansas unranked

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: jsglow on December 17, 2018, 09:45:22 PM
Don't jinx us brother.  Just win.

Don't worry, when I'm on the court playing for Marquette I'm only thinking about the game right in front of me.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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BM1090

Quote from: Cream Biggums on December 17, 2018, 10:53:13 PM
Graham Couch with Buffalo at 7, and has Big Ten programs overrated all over the place.  Bucky at 10, Nebraska at 13, Iowa at 15, and Maryland at 19. Oh and he also has Kansas unranked

He's the guy that refuses to rank a team until they play a true away game. Weird gimmick, but he will have Kansas high ne t week.

SaveOD238

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 17, 2018, 05:14:40 PM
Big opportunity week for moving up. We have a cupcake and home game against a top 15 team. A few of the teams in front us are playing some top teams and some sneaky good buy games. Everything comes up Marquette and we could be looking at a top 15 ranking.

#19 Kentucky vs #9 UNC
#18 Arizona State @Vandy & vs #1 Kansas
#17 Mississippi State vs Wofford (top 75 KenPom)
#15 Ohio State vs UCLA
#14 Buffalo @CUSE & @#20 MARQ
#12 Texas Tech vs #2 Duke
#11 Florida State vs Saint Louis (top 75 KenPom)
#8 Auburn @NCST & vs Murray State (top 75 KenPom)

We should pass Kentucky this week.  I watched their game with Seton Hall and was unimpressed.

And some UK fan on the college basketball subreddit said that UK would beat MU 6 out of 7 times because a) Hagans would shut down Howard and b) they're taller than us (is that even true?). What a load of crap.

brewcity77

Quote from: SaveOD238 on December 18, 2018, 06:27:35 AM
We should pass Kentucky this week.  I watched their game with Seton Hall and was unimpressed.

And some UK fan on the college basketball subreddit said that UK would beat MU 6 out of 7 times because a) Hagans would shut down Howard and b) they're taller than us (is that even true?). What a load of crap.

I tend to disagree. UK is 1-2 vs top-100 kenpom teams with the only win over #99 Greensboro. Their worst loss is to a Seton Hall team whose results haven't matched ours. Meanwhile, our two losses are better than their worst loss and we have three top-50 wins, three more than UK. Sizewise, Hagans is taller than Howard, but we're within an inch (some taller, some shorter) at every other position. I think it'd be close in a seven game series, and think our defense would give us a slight edge, but probably a coin flip.

SaveOD238

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 18, 2018, 12:00:17 PM
I tend to disagree. UK is 1-2 vs top-100 kenpom teams with the only win over #99 Greensboro. Their worst loss is to a Seton Hall team whose results haven't matched ours. Meanwhile, our two losses are better than their worst loss and we have three top-50 wins, three more than UK. Sizewise, Hagans is taller than Howard, but we're within an inch (some taller, some shorter) at every other position. I think it'd be close in a seven game series, and think our defense would give us a slight edge, but probably a coin flip.

I'm right there with you.  Kentucky hasn't shown anything yet.

I hope we draw them in the tourney.  Besides the Hagans decision to pick UK over us, there's also the simmering feud between the Hausers and Herro that would be fun to see on the court.  Plus, UNC-Nova (and UK-UL) are closing in on our "most matchups all-time in the tourney" record.

1SE

Top 10? How many other teams with 3 top-15 wins and no losses outside current AP25?
Real Warriors Demand Excellence


wadesworld

Quote from: 1SE on December 21, 2018, 11:40:40 PM
Top 10? How many other teams with 3 top-15 wins and no losses outside current AP25?

We'll be between 15 and 20.

TallTitan34


wadesworld

Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 21, 2018, 11:44:14 PM
Hot take.

Why? We aren't jumping 5 spots after a home win. Great win. But you have to work your way up the rankings.

1SE

We've beat Scony and Buff (18), TT and AZ lost (16), and can very easily argue we have a better resume than UK, MSST, OHST, BuzzTech, FLST (11). Finally, I doubt we'd jump Sparty, but we should - both lost to KU, they lost to L and we lost to IU, their best wins are vs IA and vs UCLA.

I doubt we'll get to 10, but we should be a "high riser" this week - I'll put my money on lucky 13.
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MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 17, 2018, 05:14:40 PM
Big opportunity week for moving up. We have a cupcake and home game against a top 15 team. A few of the teams in front us are playing some top teams and some sneaky good buy games. Everything comes up Marquette and we could be looking at a top 15 ranking.

#19 Kentucky vs #9 UNC
#18 Arizona State @Vandy & vs #1 Kansas
#17 Mississippi State vs Wofford (top 75 KenPom)
#15 Ohio State vs UCLA
#14 Buffalo @CUSE & @#20 MARQ
#12 Texas Tech vs #2 Duke
#11 Florida State vs Saint Louis (top 75 KenPom)
#8 Auburn @NCST & vs Murray State (top 75 KenPom)

We'll go past Kentucky, Arizona State and Buffalo IMHO. So that's up to 17. Maybe slip past Texas Tech. Possibly go past Auburn?

I'll be optimistic and say #15, but could see as low as #18.
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DarkWarrior

The rankings are about slowly establishing a position in voters minds. I say way make it to 16 or 17. I really feel it should be more like 14.

Ardmore Mug

15------  A big Dbl digit win vs #14....  W's vs 2-- #12 and  A big Dbl digit win vs #14. 8-)
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1SE

Quote from: DarkWarrior on December 22, 2018, 12:11:20 AM
The rankings are about slowly establishing a position in voters minds. I say way make it to 16 or 17. I really feel it should be more like 14.

But still pretty volatile this time of year, it's not like we beat a top-10 team on the road, but Markus' performance will get a lot of press and put us into people's minds...
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TallTitan34

Quote from: wadesworld on December 21, 2018, 11:46:25 PM
Why? We aren't jumping 5 spots after a home win. Great win. But you have to work your way up the rankings.

I'm aware. I was being sarcastic.

wadesworld

Quote from: TallTitan34 on December 22, 2018, 12:23:21 AM
I'm aware. I was being sarcastic.

I see. I was just responding to what I quoted, someone asking if we'd be ranked in the top 10.

If I have to pinpoint one number I'll go 17 without much thought about who's done what outside of MU and Buffalo.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 17, 2018, 05:14:40 PM
Big opportunity week for moving up. We have a cupcake and home game against a top 15 team. A few of the teams in front us are playing some top teams and some sneaky good buy games. Everything comes up Marquette and we could be looking at a top 15 ranking.

#19 Kentucky vs #9 UNC
#18 Arizona State @Vandy & vs #1 Kansas
#17 Mississippi State vs Wofford (top 75 KenPom)
#15 Ohio State vs UCLA
#14 Buffalo @CUSE & @#20 MARQ
#12 Texas Tech vs #2 Duke
#11 Florida State vs Saint Louis (top 75 KenPom)
#8 Auburn @NCST & vs Murray State (top 75 KenPom)

3.5 down...I think we may still need Murray State to beat Auburn to pass them.

Assuming chalk holds the rest of the week, I think the lowest we can be is #18. I think a dominate win over Buffalo could be impressive enough to also move us past Mississippi State (after struggling with Wofford), Wisconsin, Ohio State (though unlikely), Texas Tech, and Auburn.

So somewhere between 18 and 13 unless we get some crazy results this weekend.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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LoudMouth

No debate...Heldt always has the fix in....#12 bound

1SE

Real Warriors Demand Excellence

wadesworld

Quote from: LoudMouth on December 22, 2018, 01:18:05 AM
No debate...Heldt always has the fix in....#12 bound

That number and the Fiserv Forum don't jive well.

brewcity77

FWIW after the Buffalo win, we're up to 13th in the NET Rankings.

LAZER

Quote from: wadesworld on December 22, 2018, 01:00:29 AM
I see. I was just responding to what I quoted, someone asking if we'd be ranked in the top 10.

If I have to pinpoint one number I'll go 17 without much thought about who's done what outside of MU and Buffalo.
In the AP they could jump ASU, Buffalo, and possibly Kentucky.  Then they get put in a spot right next to UW, do some voters put MU in front of them? But yeah 16/17 probably.


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