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warriorchick

Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 04, 2018, 10:35:16 AM
I rather not have the ranking bulls eye on our back or the guys thinking they are as good as their rank.

Yep.  In recent years our greatest success has been those in which we have been way underrated pre-season, which is why I don't get honked off about it like some people on this board.

Also, remember 2013-2014, when were projected to win the Big East?  Good times.
Have some patience, FFS.

warriorchick

Quote from: BagpipingHurler on June 04, 2018, 10:45:45 AM
He says two wins away from a birth?

Let's hope there are no births at all.  Last thing we need is one of the guys on maternity leave.
Have some patience, FFS.

Its DJOver

Quote from: BagpipingHurler on June 04, 2018, 10:45:45 AM
He says two wins away from a birth? Weren't we one win from being third in the Big East?

Anyways if those rankings hold, and we played Tennessee and Kansas. We'd play an absurdly tough non con

Committee thought we were at best 5th team out.  Beating DePaul or Georgia wouldn't have been enough.  X or Nova would have.  2nd place Pac12 team didn't get a bid
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Its DJOver on June 04, 2018, 10:55:50 AM
Committee thought we were at best 5th team out.  Beating DePaul or Georgia wouldn't have been enough.  X or Nova would have.  2nd place Pac12 team didn't get a bid

Is that actually released somewhere or are you basing this off NIT seeding? Because my understanding is NIT seeding is not a reflection of the order in which you were out of the field
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

TallTitan34

Quote from: BagpipingHurler on June 04, 2018, 10:58:42 AM
Is that actually released somewhere or are you basing this off NIT seeding? Because my understanding is NIT seeding is not a reflection of the order in which you were out of the field

The selection show showed the first four teams out and we weren't one of them.  I believe these four automatically get the 1 seeds in the NIT but there's no order after that.

Its DJOver

Quote from: BagpipingHurler on June 04, 2018, 10:58:42 AM
Is that actually released somewhere or are you basing this off NIT seeding? Because my understanding is NIT seeding is not a reflection of the order in which you were out of the field

The first four out of the NCAA are always the 1 seeds in the NIT.  After that I'm not sure (because of the seeding regarding the mid major automatic qualifiers), but that would still put us, at best, 5th team out.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Its DJOver on June 04, 2018, 11:01:57 AM
The first four out of the NCAA are always the 1 seeds in the NIT.  After that I'm not sure (because of the seeding regarding the mid major automatic qualifiers), but that would still put us, at best, 5th team out.

Got it. Learn something new every day
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MUfan12


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MUfan12 on June 04, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
UW at 25 is hysterical.

I agree it's too high but they should be in the tourney next season IMHO
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Skatastrophy

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 04, 2018, 11:25:44 AM
I agree it's too high but they should be in the tourney next season IMHO

In what sport?

barfolomew

Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 04, 2018, 11:30:00 AM
In what sport?

Men's Indoor Basketball.
Unfortunately, I agree with TAMU. If everyone is healthy again they are a borderline tourney team. B1G is stronger than last year.
Relationes Incrementum Victoria

Mr. Sand-Knit

Still belive a win over depaul or prividence would have put ys in the tourney.  10-8 in the BE would have probably been enuff to separate us from thise 4-5-6 teams ahead of us and maybe even some teams in the tourney.  Just a little defense from being a solid tourney team.  Hopefully the addition of Chartouney ngrowth of the other players tightens up the turnstile defense this year. 
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 04, 2018, 11:41:07 AM
Still belive a win over depaul or prividence would have put ys in the tourney.  10-8 in the BE would have probably been enuff to separate us from thise 4-5-6 teams ahead of us and maybe even some teams in the tourney.  Just a little defense from being a solid tourney team.  Hopefully the addition of Chartouney ngrowth of the other players tightens up the turnstile defense this year.

+1
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Its DJOver

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 04, 2018, 11:41:07 AM
Still belive a win over depaul or prividence would have put ys in the tourney.  10-8 in the BE would have probably been enuff to separate us from thise 4-5-6 teams ahead of us and maybe even some teams in the tourney.  Just a little defense from being a solid tourney team.  Hopefully the addition of Chartouney ngrowth of the other players tightens up the turnstile defense this year.

I don't think DePaul gets us in.  PC would have been incredibly close.  3 sweeps of tourney teams would have been hard to ignore.  If we had won that game.  I think our positions would have swapped going into the BET with us just barely in and them just barely out.  Their win over X in NYC guaranteed them a bid.  Would have been interesting to see if they get a bid without that win, some of their advanced numbers were historically bad for a tourney team despite thier key wins.

Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Read the Katz article, Loyola is not the 12th best team in the nation. I don't even think they are a top 50 team. They will run through the Missouri Valley again because it is a weak conference, so they might end up in the top 25, but I don't see them getting a single digit seed.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


brewcity77

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 04, 2018, 11:41:07 AM
Still belive a win over depaul or prividence would have put ys in the tourney.  10-8 in the BE would have probably been enuff to separate us from thise 4-5-6 teams ahead of us and maybe even some teams in the tourney.

This exactly. Especially the DePaul game. Not because of what a win at DePaul would've been worth, but because of the impact a loss against DePaul had.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 04, 2018, 12:44:30 PM
Read the Katz article, Loyola is not the 12th best team in the nation. I don't even think they are a top 50 team. They will run through the Missouri Valley again because it is a weak conference, so they might end up in the top 25, but I don't see them getting a single digit seed.

Katz is such a B10 homer.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Mr. Nielsen

If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

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tower912

So, rankings will have to be earned.    If the team is good enough, it will be ranked when it matters. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Herman Cain

I had high expectations for the team last year .  I felt we would finish 3rd in the Big East and make it to the second weekend of the tournament. We ended up one win away from 3rd in the Big East and made it to the second weekend equivalent of the wrong tournament.   I have similar expectations this year, not finalized yet.  That said , my view is that the polls may take some time to catch up with where the team actually  is. If we can get out of the blocks strong, we should start being listed in those receiving additional votes and if we can win 10 or more non conference games we will go into conference season ranked.  Our relative position of strength in the conference should enable us to propel our ranking higher over the course of the season. My bullishness is a function of the complete roster we have now. 
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willie warrior

Quote from: Its DJOver on June 04, 2018, 11:01:57 AM
The first four out of the NCAA are always the 1 seeds in the NIT.  After that I'm not sure (because of the seeding regarding the mid major automatic qualifiers), but that would still put us, at best, 5th team out.
The key to all this stuff is that we did not make the dance, and that is on Wojo
Now, let the excuses and deflection begin.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

dgies9156

Quote from: Herman Cain on June 05, 2018, 10:04:24 PM
I had high expectations for the team last year .  I felt we would finish 3rd in the Big East and make it to the second weekend of the tournament. We ended up one win away from 3rd in the Big East and made it to the second weekend equivalent of the wrong tournament.   I have similar expectations this year, not finalized yet.  That said , my view is that the polls may take some time to catch up with where the team actually  is. If we can get out of the blocks strong, we should start being listed in those receiving additional votes and if we can win 10 or more non conference games we will go into conference season ranked.  Our relative position of strength in the conference should enable us to propel our ranking higher over the course of the season. My bullishness is a function of the complete roster we have now.

Brother Herman hit the nail on the head. I would rather go into a season under-rated and watch our guys earn their Top 10 ranking that come in as a ranked team with the expectations and hoopla that follow.

We still have some unknowns going into next November. But the off-season recruiting has shored up some weaknesses and with Joe and Ed in the fold, I'm pretty optimistic.

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