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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2325 on: February 22, 2019, 03:49:35 PM »
They should really get rid of the margin (capped or uncapped) altogether. Since margin is baked into efficiency, they are essentially giving bonus points for margin up to 10.

I think that is in there to discourage running up the score.  Math wise it makes no sense.  Purely PR.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2326 on: February 22, 2019, 03:58:48 PM »
The NET has 5 components.  Efficiency is component 2, (capped) scoring margin is component 5.  I am talking about component 1: team value index.

This component is an algorithm based on opponent,  location, and result.  Yes, it is a total mystery what exactly the "opponent" factor is, but this is where I think the quantity of Q4 games matter.  Again, since the NET formula and weighting is unknown, it's just my guess.  Hopefully this better explains my thought process.

This was my understanding as well. 

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2327 on: February 22, 2019, 04:03:40 PM »
Just run the table and none of this will matter!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2328 on: February 22, 2019, 04:22:57 PM »
The NET has 5 components.  Efficiency is component 2, (capped) scoring margin is component 5.  I am talking about component 1: team value index.

This component is an algorithm based on opponent,  location, and result.  Yes, it is a total mystery what exactly the "opponent" factor is, but this is where I think the quantity of Q4 games matter.  Again, since the NET formula and weighting is unknown, it's just my guess.  Hopefully this better explains my thought process.

Interesting, I understood component 1 differently, but after doing some research you are correct. When they talked about result I assumed that result wasn't just W/L but would include margin.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2329 on: February 22, 2019, 09:59:59 PM »
Interesting, I understood component 1 differently, but after doing some research you are correct. When they talked about result I assumed that result wasn't just W/L but would include margin.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2330 on: February 23, 2019, 01:44:13 PM »
Back in the top 10

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2331 on: February 23, 2019, 01:46:17 PM »

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2332 on: February 23, 2019, 01:49:08 PM »
could LSU jump us?

Lost at Florida this week so it would be a joke if so. Speaking of that game, I’m not very impressed with Tennessee’s resume. I think we are closer to passing them than it may seem.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2333 on: February 23, 2019, 01:49:24 PM »
could LSU jump us?

Only if voters don't penalize them for losing to Florida at home.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2334 on: February 23, 2019, 01:52:25 PM »
Only if voters don't penalize them for losing to Florida at home.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/18/19
« Reply #2335 on: February 23, 2019, 02:04:59 PM »
Lost at Florida this week so it would be a joke if so. Speaking of that game, I’m not very impressed with Tennessee’s resume. I think we are closer to passing them than it may seem.

Agreed completely. After the Tennessee loss to Kentucky I looked closer at their resume and it's not that great. Both them and Michigan State look passable.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2336 on: February 23, 2019, 05:02:02 PM »
As Brew says, Tennessee lost.

Either Michigan or Michigan State will lose tomorrow. 

Would be great to see either Houston or Nevada lose tonight. Not likely, but could happen.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2337 on: February 23, 2019, 05:11:11 PM »
As Brew says, Tennessee lost.

Either Michigan or Michigan State will lose tomorrow. 

Would be great to see either Houston or Nevada lose tonight. Not likely, but could happen.

MU will be ranked ahead of Nevada for sure. They lost this week. My question is (and this may be a strong take) but ... should Nevada start sweating if they lose tonight? I’m pretty sure they have not played a Quad 1 game all season. That is actually difficult to do.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2338 on: February 23, 2019, 05:46:31 PM »
MU will be ranked ahead of Nevada for sure. They lost this week. My question is (and this may be a strong take) but ... should Nevada start sweating if they lose tonight? I’m pretty sure they have not played a Quad 1 game all season. That is actually difficult to do.

No they shouldn't...... remember the committee had them as the 14th best team on the S curve only 2 weeks ago......they've lost 1 game since then......and the bubble has only gotten worse.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-bracket-preview-committee-puts-duke-as-top-overall-seed-tennessee-virginia-gonzaga-also-no-1s/

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2339 on: February 23, 2019, 05:50:50 PM »
MU will be ranked ahead of Nevada for sure. They lost this week. My question is (and this may be a strong take) but ... should Nevada start sweating if they lose tonight? I’m pretty sure they have not played a Quad 1 game all season. That is actually difficult to do.

They won't be on the bubble, but a protected seed could be a tough ask. Probably a 5/6 right now and any more losses could have them staring down a 1/2 seed as soon as the first weekend.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2340 on: February 23, 2019, 06:21:41 PM »
MU will be ranked ahead of Nevada for sure. They lost this week. My question is (and this may be a strong take) but ... should Nevada start sweating if they lose tonight? I’m pretty sure they have not played a Quad 1 game all season. That is actually difficult to do.

They won't sweat the bubble but they might really close to being a 7 seed.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2341 on: February 23, 2019, 07:52:01 PM »
Holy crap.  If this keeps up I'd wager Texas Tech jumps us

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2342 on: February 23, 2019, 08:57:18 PM »
When is the last time kansas lost by 30 or more

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2343 on: February 23, 2019, 08:58:24 PM »
Good one in Reno. Fresno State leads at Nevada. 62-60 with under 5 to play.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2344 on: February 23, 2019, 09:34:55 PM »
I can’t tell if we should be rooting for Nevada or against them. It’s be nice to jump them in the poll, but I don’t want us to get sent out west again.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2345 on: February 23, 2019, 09:42:22 PM »
Good one in Reno. Fresno State leads at Nevada. 62-60 with under 5 to play.

I fully expect for us to see them in the 2nd round. Either as a 4-5 matchup with the story line (us both being seeded too low), or as a 3-6 matchup (with the story line of Nevada being closer to a 3 seed than a 6 seed).

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2346 on: February 23, 2019, 09:44:44 PM »
I fully expect for us to see them in the 2nd round. Either as a 4-5 matchup with the story line (us both being seeded too low), or as a 3-6 matchup (with the story line of Nevada being closer to a 3 seed than a 6 seed).


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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2347 on: February 23, 2019, 09:47:49 PM »
I fully expect for us to see them in the 2nd round. Either as a 4-5 matchup with the story line (us both being seeded too low), or as a 3-6 matchup (with the story line of Nevada being closer to a 3 seed than a 6 seed).
That is silly to expect. Could it happen? Sure.. but quite unlikely that match up takes place. I think they grab a 5 seed. And very low chance we end up in the same chunk of raw bracket anyways.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2348 on: February 23, 2019, 10:21:39 PM »
Holy crap.  If this keeps up I'd wager Texas Tech jumps us

I'd be surprised. Beating Kansas by 30 is more impressive than beatdowns of Butler and at Providence, but I don't think more impressive enough to over come the 264 vote gap between us and them.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/25/19
« Reply #2349 on: February 23, 2019, 10:34:18 PM »
I'd be surprised. Beating Kansas by 30 is more impressive than beatdowns of Butler and at Providence, but I don't think more impressive enough to over come the 264 vote gap between us and them.

This. Gotta do more than that.
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