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[jesmu84]

Which makes sense for a new hire which would need to hire a new staff, do their own evaluations on the pool, meet the federation etc. However it makes zero sense when you re hire your most recent coach and the pool hasn't changed and the back room staff is almost identical to when you they left six months ago...

Ok.

But it isn't some USSF conspiracy related to rehiring Gregg

[The Sultan]

Maybe if they held the Gold Cup every four years like a normal federation they would take it more seriously. But it's bi-annual, and now they have another competition on top of it, so is it really that big of a deal?

[panda]

Maybe if they held the Gold Cup every four years like a normal federation they would take it more seriously. But it's bi-annual, and now they have another competition on top of it, so is it really that big of a deal?

That would be like a new college football coach skipping the non conference slate only to coach conference play because they're not serious games.

He was hired to coach so coach. It's an entirely separate pathetic issue if the federation or ggg is afraid of backlash from possibly not performing to the standard.

[panda]

Ok.

But it isn't some USSF conspiracy related to rehiring Gregg

It's not a conspiracy. It's a federation  protecting their poor decision and acknowledging what will inevitably happen when results don't go ggg's ways.

[The Sultan]

That would be like a new college football coach skipping the non conference slate only to coach conference play because they're not serious games. the standard.

That's really a terrible analogy.

He was hired to coach so coach. It's an entirely separate pathetic issue if the federation or ggg is afraid of backlash from possibly not performing to the standard.

That was Wags' theory. If they announced they weren't going to have a hire hire coach the Gold Cup, then that is the obvious reason why he isn't coaching.

Really who cares? They haven't prioritized the Gold Cup. It will have no bearing at all on the USMNT moving forward. They're clear priority will be to qualify for 2024 Copa America this fall, and making a deep run in that tournament. 

[panda]

That's really a terrible analogy.


That was Wags' theory. If they announced they weren't going to have a hire hire coach the Gold Cup, then that is the obvious reason why he isn't coaching.

Really who cares? They haven't prioritized the Gold Cup. It will have no bearing at all on the USMNT moving forward. They're clear priority will be to qualify for 2024 Copa America this fall, and making a deep run in that tournament.

You're a terrible analogy bang

[panda]

That's really a terrible analogy.


That was Wags' theory. If they announced they weren't going to have a hire hire coach the Gold Cup, then that is the obvious reason why he isn't coaching.

Really who cares? They haven't prioritized the Gold Cup. It will have no bearing at all on the USMNT moving forward. They're clear priority will be to qualify for 2024 Copa America this fall, and making a deep run in that tournament.

He's not coaching games that count and it's because the federation wants to shelter him. That's a big problem.

[The Sultan]

He's not coaching games that count and it's because the federation wants to shelter him. That's a big problem.

That's your theory. I don't agree with it.

[panda]

That's your theory. I don't agree with it.

Why isn't he on the sideline then ?

[The Sultan]

Why isn't he on the sideline then ?

Because back in May they announced that Callaghan would be in place this summer and they stuck with their plan.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/usmnt-coach-change-bj-callaghan-to-lead-nations-league-gold-cup-as-anthony-hudso

"B.J. Callaghan will serve as head coach for the US men's national team during this summer's Concacaf Nations League and Gold Cup tournaments, coinciding with Tuesday's news that interim coach Anthony Hudson has departed the program for a new opportunity."


That seems way more plausible than "they're sheltering him." Why would they do that?

[JWags85]

If you actually want a conspiracy, I wouldn't be entirely shocked if USSF knew they were re-hiring GGG when they made the statement about the new coach and the Gold Cup

[panda]

Because back in May they announced that Callaghan would be in place this summer and they stuck with their plan.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/usmnt-coach-change-bj-callaghan-to-lead-nations-league-gold-cup-as-anthony-hudso

"B.J. Callaghan will serve as head coach for the US men's national team during this summer's Concacaf Nations League and Gold Cup tournaments, coinciding with Tuesday's news that interim coach Anthony Hudson has departed the program for a new opportunity."


That seems way more plausible than "they're sheltering him." Why would they do that?

That article is worthless. It was written with the premonition that a hire would happen at the end of summer (wrong) and the hire would come from the outside (wrong).

They hired someone directly inside the USSF circle and it happened before a competition. Completely different circumstances than what your article proposes.

They're sheltering him because of the overwhelmingly bad reception the hire received.

[BM1090]

I don't think they are sheltering him at all. The roster for this tournament stinks and isn't expected to win.

He already won a Gold Cup with a B roster.

If you actually want a conspiracy, I wouldn't be entirely shocked if USSF knew they were re-hiring GGG when they made the statement about the new coach and the Gold Cup

I agree on this. They probably decided a lot earlier than they are letting on, but sheltering him doesn't make a ton of sense.

[The Sultan]

That article is worthless. It was written with the premonition that a hire would happen at the end of summer (wrong) and the hire would come from the outside (wrong).

They hired someone directly inside the USSF circle and it happened before a competition. Completely different circumstances than what your article proposes.

They're sheltering him because of the overwhelmingly bad reception the hire received.

Let me know if you need more tin foil for that hat of yours.

[panda]

I don't think they are sheltering him at all. The roster for this tournament stinks and isn't expected to win.

He already won a Gold Cup with a B roster.

I agree on this. They probably decided a lot earlier than they are letting on, but sheltering him doesn't make a ton of sense.

Mexico was +150 going in and USA +165.

[panda]

Let me know if you need more tin foil for that hat of yours.

Why wouldn't he coach a competitive tournament after he was hired then?

[The Sultan]

Why wouldn't he coach a competitive tournament after he was hired then?

Already answered.

[panda]

Already answered.

With an outdated non relevant article....

[The Sultan]

With an outdated non relevant article....

But sure, your tinfoil-inspired theory is really relevant huh?

[jesmu84]

I don't think they are sheltering him at all. The roster for this tournament stinks and isn't expected to win.

He already won a Gold Cup with a B roster.

I agree on this. They probably decided a lot earlier than they are letting on, but sheltering him doesn't make a ton of sense.

Ya. But not by enough goals. And not with the right players

[jesmu84]

If you actually want a conspiracy, I wouldn't be entirely shocked if USSF knew they were re-hiring GGG when they made the statement about the new coach and the Gold Cup

Ha!

That's a good one

[jesmu84]

Because back in May they announced that Callaghan would be in place this summer and they stuck with their plan.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/usmnt-coach-change-bj-callaghan-to-lead-nations-league-gold-cup-as-anthony-hudso

"B.J. Callaghan will serve as head coach for the US men's national team during this summer's Concacaf Nations League and Gold Cup tournaments, coinciding with Tuesday's news that interim coach Anthony Hudson has departed the program for a new opportunity."


That seems way more plausible than "they're sheltering him." Why would they do that?

When this story/plan came out, I discussed with all my soccer friends. Said it was absolutely stupid. Once the coach is hired, get him on the sideline for any/all competitions.

I still think it's a stupid plan, regardless of who the hire ended up being.

[The Sultan]

I'm not disputing it's a bad idea. I'm disputing the idea they are doing it to shelter him from...people booing I guess??

[Pakuni]

QSMNT is a real thing.

[panda]

I'm not disputing it's a bad idea. I'm disputing the idea they are doing it to shelter him from...people booing I guess??

Why else wouldn't he manage the team ?