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Author Topic: IDF targets and kills food aid workers  (Read 2112 times)

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #100 on: April 16, 2024, 03:56:33 PM »
After reading four sections of comments on Israel/Hamas/Gaza and assorted diversions, the one conclusion that's apparent is that we're rather weak on the history of the area.

The Western Middle East has been a battleground since the Jewish people under Moses fled Pharaoh. Muslims are taught from the moment they begin nursing at their mother's breasts that Jews are infidels and should be killed. Every Jew since the mid-1940s has the Holocaust drilled into them from the day they nurse from their Mother. This is the classic immovable object meets and unstoppable force.

Hamas is nothing more than a reflagged, undisciplined Iranian army. Ditto Hezbollah. Their mercenaries aimed at creating instability and giving Iran plausible deniability in its ongoing war with the Great Satan. 

We see things through domestic political and social considerations. In our culture, we try to be inclusive and believe if people vote, they can change the political and social direction of our country. Nobody in the Middle East gives a rat's backside about inclusion. The whole war is about turf and about survival.

Two things are paramount in the debate. First, despite the pleadings of the President, U.S. Domestic political considerations carry no weight when Israel's life and death is on the line. Diamona exists because Israel will do any and everything to assure its survival, lest we end up with Holocaust II.

Second, when you go to war, civilians get killed. Lots and lots of them. There is no avoiding it.

As a side note, the only people who brought an even limited peace to the Middle East were Jimmy Carter and Anwar Sadat. That worked out well for President Sadat, didn't it?

Yes. That certainly seems to be the case.
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #101 on: April 16, 2024, 04:10:07 PM »
Yes. That certainly seems to be the case.

Correct.  Regardless of administration, policy in the Middle East will be a failure, dating back to Truman
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #102 on: April 16, 2024, 10:58:43 PM »
This seems like poor advice. Though perhaps not surprising from the guy who wanted to use the Army against Americans in 2020.

As pro-Palestinian protesters blocked major U.S. transportation infrastructure on Monday, from San Francisco’s Golden Gate Bridge to the entrance to Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport, one Republican senator joined Fox News to call for Americans “to take matters into their own hands.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tom-cotton-urges-americans-to-take-matters-into-their-own-hands-to-stop-pro-palestinian-protestors/

A U.S. senator is advocating for vigilante violence as the way to deal with peaceful protests. What could go wrong?
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #103 on: April 17, 2024, 05:31:13 AM »
seems kinda insurrectiony to me.  track em all down, use any means necessary, throw em in prison without bail, hold trials if really necessary...oh we'll get around to it some year or another as long as they are off the streets. if blocking people from doing their day to day avtivites doesn't get their attentions, maybe preventing emergency vehicles from saving lives will

    freedom of speech here is pretty cool here, river to sea by any means necessary, eyn'a?   
don't...don't don't don't don't

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #104 on: April 17, 2024, 05:48:13 AM »
seems kinda insurrectiony to me.  track em all down, use any means necessary, throw em in prison without bail, hold trials if really necessary...oh we'll get around to it some year or another as long as they are off the streets. if blocking people from doing their day to day avtivites doesn't get their attentions, maybe preventing emergency vehicles from saving lives will

    freedom of speech here is pretty cool here, river to sea by any means necessary, eyn'a?   


Are you drunk this morning? You seem more incoherent than usual. 
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #105 on: April 17, 2024, 05:48:33 AM »
I like Tom Cotton, hey?

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #106 on: April 17, 2024, 05:53:29 AM »
A U.S. senator is advocating for vigilante violence as the way to deal with peaceful protests. What could go wrong?


But members of the U.S. House displaying Palestinian flags in their official office is okay by you, hey?

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #107 on: April 17, 2024, 05:58:04 AM »
Ranks up there with the Putin propogandists of the GOP.
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #108 on: April 17, 2024, 06:33:09 AM »
Ranks up there with the Putin propogandists of the GOP.

Well, that’s different.  They’re just bought and paid for, plus, some of them don’t want their bedroom secrets out in the open
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #109 on: April 17, 2024, 07:20:45 AM »
seems kinda insurrectiony to me.  track em all down, use any means necessary, throw em in prison without bail, hold trials if really necessary...oh we'll get around to it some year or another as long as they are off the streets. if blocking people from doing their day to day avtivites doesn't get their attentions, maybe preventing emergency vehicles from saving lives will

    freedom of speech here is pretty cool here, river to sea by any means necessary, eyn'a?

Just so we're clear here, Tom.Cotton is arguing that people who block traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge in protest should be thrown off the bridge.
A fall/jump from the bridge is fatal more than 90% of the time.
So, in the world of Tom, 4ever and rocket, the proper response to someone blocking traffic is to murder them.

I think these protesters are a-holes and these protests do more harm than good for their cause, but advocating for them to be murdered seems perhaps a bit extreme.



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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #110 on: April 17, 2024, 07:21:55 AM »
They’re all fake-tough guys who wouldn’t really do anything if the situation arose.
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #111 on: April 17, 2024, 07:37:31 AM »

But members of the U.S. House displaying Palestinian flags in their official office is okay by you, hey?

#shameful

I'd rather they didn't. But yes, compared to publicly advocating for vigilante violence as an answer to a peaceful protest, I'd prefer a display of a flag.

Given that you love a demented dictator-wannabe who fomented a violent coup attempt against his own country (and also happens to be an antisemite), I'm not surprised that you love this clown, too.
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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #112 on: April 17, 2024, 01:28:13 PM »
After reading four sections of comments on Israel/Hamas/Gaza and assorted diversions, the one conclusion that's apparent is that we're rather weak on the history of the area.

The Western Middle East has been a battleground since the Jewish people under Moses fled Pharaoh. Muslims are taught from the moment they begin nursing at their mother's breasts that Jews are infidels and should be killed. Every Jew since the mid-1940s has the Holocaust drilled into them from the day they nurse from their Mother. This is the classic immovable object meets and unstoppable force.

Hamas is nothing more than a reflagged, undisciplined Iranian army. Ditto Hezbollah. Their mercenaries aimed at creating instability and giving Iran plausible deniability in its ongoing war with the Great Satan. 

We see things through domestic political and social considerations. In our culture, we try to be inclusive and believe if people vote, they can change the political and social direction of our country. Nobody in the Middle East gives a rat's backside about inclusion. The whole war is about turf and about survival.

Two things are paramount in the debate. First, despite the pleadings of the President, U.S. Domestic political considerations carry no weight when Israel's life and death is on the line. Diamona exists because Israel will do any and everything to assure its survival, lest we end up with Holocaust II.

Second, when you go to war, civilians get killed. Lots and lots of them. There is no avoiding it.

As a side note, the only people who brought an even limited peace to the Middle East were Jimmy Carter and Anwar Sadat. That worked out well for President Sadat, didn't it?

Oh boy.

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #113 on: April 17, 2024, 02:08:39 PM »

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #114 on: April 17, 2024, 07:36:13 PM »
Just as a reminder, on October 6, a cease fire existed in the Middle East. On October 7, Hamas broke that cease fire by attacking, killing, and kidnapping innocent Israelis while the world sat back and nodded approval with its silence. And now as da BOTUS sees his polling numbers plummet faster than cockroaches scatter in a kitchen when the lights are turned on, he willingly throws the only democracy in the Middle East under the bus simply to garner Arab American votes in key swing states...despicable, aina?

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https://www.propublica.org/article/israel-gaza-blinken-leahy-sanctions-human-rights-violations

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Re: IDF targets and kills food aid workers
« Reply #115 on: April 18, 2024, 08:46:15 AM »
House Speaker Mike Johnson could get ousted by his party's growing batshyte-crazy faction for putting forth an aid package for Israel, Ukraine and Gaza relief - a package that can only pass with the help of the other party.
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