Futbol Talk

[JWags85]

We did. Westbrook/popcorn.

I anticipate the shenanigans from last night's game will be top discussion on ESPN for the next couple weeks.

I doubt it.  ESPN has a deal with Liga MX and I think a deal with the Mexican National Team.  It will be disregarded like it has been for a decade plus.  It will pop up in interviews or the vignettes US Soccer does, but Mexican fans will continue to get away with it like they always have.  Curbing their standard chant like we saw towards the end of the game might happen, but I doubt the projectiles.  The only thing that may stop it is the players or governing body of Mexican soccer pleading for it, but thats unlikely.

Berhalter's starting lineup was bizarre. No idea why Tyler Adams didnt feature until so late if he was supposedly healthy.  No idea why Ream gets shredded for 85 min and Reggie Cannon doesn't come on until the 105th minute.  No idea why you bring in Musah and only play him 20 min in the last 3 matches, and none in the Nations League.

But I'll take a victory however you get it

[The Sultan]

If it were football, they would talk about it for the next month.

Basketball, a couple of weeks.

A National League soccer game?  You'll get a day.

[jesmu84]

I doubt it.  ESPN has a deal with Liga MX and I think a deal with the Mexican National Team.  It will be disregarded like it has been for a decade plus.  It will pop up in interviews or the vignettes US Soccer does, but Mexican fans will continue to get away with it like they always have.  Curbing their standard chant like we saw towards the end of the game might happen, but I doubt the projectiles.  The only thing that may stop it is the players or governing body of Mexican soccer pleading for it, but thats unlikely.

Berhalter's starting lineup was bizarre. No idea why Tyler Adams didnt feature until so late if he was supposedly healthy.  No idea why Ream gets shredded for 85 min and Reggie Cannon doesn't come on until the 105th minute.  No idea why you bring in Musah and only play him 20 min in the last 3 matches, and none in the Nations League.

But I'll take a victory however you get it

Yup.

I am highly suspicious that chant first started in the 95th minute.

Concacaf is so chicken-crap when it comes to Mexico

I also don't understand Greg's initial lineup. Leaving Adams out is fine. But if you're going to play 3/5 at the back, you don't leave Ream isolated on one side by himself. And, when you see Ream getting abused repeatedly, you don't leave him in the game in the same position for a 2nd half.

Most of his subs were fine, but they were all making up for his initial blunder.

I don't agree with taking Reyna off as early as he did unless Gio asked for it.

I also don't agree with not cap-tying Musah, unless he asked to just observe.

[injuryBug]

If it were football, they would talk about it for the next month.

Basketball, a couple of weeks.

A National League soccer game?  You'll get a day.

Look at Kyrie he almost got hit by a water bottle and the guy was arrested.  2 players did get hit by cups or bottles and nothing will happen.
would be nice to find a way to not have the mexican fans sitting so close to the field for our home games.  Christian should really pick a different corner to celebrate in

[jesmu84]

Look at Kyrie he almost got hit by a water bottle and the guy was arrested.  2 players did get hit by cups or bottles and nothing will happen.
would be nice to find a way to not have the mexican fans sitting so close to the field for our home games.  Christian should really pick a different corner to celebrate in

Lol.

Victim blaming? Really?

[Its DJOver]

5 arrested, not quite sure how you can have sufficient "security footage" to arrest one person for throwing objects, but not the dozen that likely did?  Oh well, progress I guess.

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/06/07/us-mexico-concacaf-nations-league-final-arrests/

[Its DJOver]

Two thoughts from tonight's (and the previous 2 games as well).  1. Why did we not see more of Adams and Aaronson?  They were both excellent tonight. 2. With the emerging talent up top (Sargent's been known for a while, but Dike, Hoppe, and Siebatcheu) Jozy should not be on the plane to Qatar.  He'll be 33 for the WC, and I would absolutely much rather have the younger players in that role.

[JWags85]

Two thoughts from tonight's (and the previous 2 games as well).  1. Why did we not see more of Adams and Aaronson?  They were both excellent tonight. 2. With the emerging talent up top (Sargent's been known for a while, but Dike, Hoppe, and Siebatcheu) Jozy should not be on the plane to Qatar.  He'll be 33 for the WC, and I would absolutely much rather have the younger players in that role.

HELLLLLLLLLL NAWWWWW.

Thanks for all the memories Jozy, but there is zero reason for an aging striker, who has had trouble staying healthy, playing in a second tier league to be on the roster over young potential studs playing week in and out against the top European competition.  Jozy has 20 goals total over the last 4 MLS seasons, so it's not like he's even been in fine  form.  He and Michael Bradley can post up and watch the matches together at one of their plush residences in T Dot bought with the huge checks they've cashed over the last 7-8 years.

I also want no part of Jordan Morris on that roster either, personally

[BM1090]

HELLLLLLLLLL NAWWWWW.

Thanks for all the memories Jozy, but there is zero reason for an aging striker, who has had trouble staying healthy, playing in a second tier league to be on the roster over young potential studs playing week in and out against the top European competition.  Jozy has 20 goals total over the last 4 MLS seasons, so it's not like he's even been in fine  form.  He and Michael Bradley can post up and watch the matches together at one of their plush residences in T Dot bought with the huge checks they've cashed over the last 7-8 years.

I also want no part of Jordan Morris on that roster either, personally

I'm with you on Morris, but I'm pretty confident that he'll be there.

[JWags85]

I'm with you on Morris, but I'm pretty confident that he'll be there.

I still hold onto hope that somehow Berhalter doesn't make the WC as manager...which I know is highly unlikely.   But if he does, I agree with you.  He's still very much legacy USMNT and there are a couple darlings still in the pool.  Morris is one.  Zardes is another but I think his time has thankfully passed.

[jesmu84]

I still hold onto hope that somehow Berhalter doesn't make the WC as manager...which I know is highly unlikely.   But if he does, I agree with you.  He's still very much legacy USMNT and there are a couple darlings still in the pool.  Morris is one.  Zardes is another but I think his time has thankfully passed.

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Gregg will coach 2022. Which is fine, ultimately.

The big hire will be the coach for the 2026 cycle when this group is reaching its full potential and the WC is on home soil.

[brewcity77]

Gregg will coach 2022. Which is fine, ultimately.

The big hire will be the coach for the 2026 cycle when this group is reaching its full potential and the WC is on home soil.

It will be interesting to see who coaches that cycle. Have to think with the lines of Pulisic, Reyna, McKinnie, Dest, & hosting you could shoot higher than we often seem to.

[Its DJOver]

Incredibly scary situation in Denmark right now.  Don't know why they kept the cameras on him as long as they did, cut to studio ffs.

Update: match has been suspended.  Only decision possible really.

[Billy Hoyle]

Incredibly scary situation in Denmark right now.  Don't know why they kept the cameras on him as long as they did, cut to studio ffs.

Update: match has been suspended.  Only decision possible really.

Match rightfully suspended.

Meanwhile, when Keyonte Johnson collapsed during the Florida/FSU game it continued.

[brewcity77]

Scary stuff, looks like he's in the hospital and in stable condition.

[JWags85]

Incredibly scary situation in Denmark right now.  Don't know why they kept the cameras on him as long as they did, cut to studio ffs.

Update: match has been suspended.  Only decision possible really.

It's restarted, now at halftime

[Its DJOver]

It's restarted, now at halftime

Yep, apparently Eriksen facetimed the team and told them to play on.  Still gotta be a tough situation for the players though.

[JWags85]

Yep, apparently Eriksen facetimed the team and told them to play on.  Still gotta be a tough situation for the players though.

Super rough.  They definitely have looked out of it.  Can't even imagine

Update: apparently UEFA gave the option of finishing or playing tomorrow at noon.  SHEESH. Eriksen message or not, that's still putting a team under the gun

[The Sultan]

Super rough.  They definitely have looked out of it.  Can't even imagine

Update: apparently UEFA gave the option of finishing or playing tomorrow at noon.  SHEESH. Eriksen message or not, that's still putting a team under the gun

But really what is UEFA supposed to do? 

[JWags85]

I swear it feels like anytime Spain plays a non-elite team, they either waterfalls 3-4 goals or waste every chance and somehow scuff a late 1 goal win. No in between

[JWags85]

Back to back matches of lesser teams largely playing for a draw, ugh.  At least Sweden had some decent counter attacking.  This Hungary-Portugal match has been beyond gross.

[21Jumpstreet]

Back to back matches of lesser teams largely playing for a draw, ugh.  At least Sweden had some decent counter attacking.  This Hungary-Portugal match has been beyond gross.

I didn't mind it, thought Hungary fought...until it fell apart entirely.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I thought Hungary was way more aggressive than Sweden. I mean, Spain literally had over 85% of the possession. That's ridiculous.

[JWags85]

I thought Hungary was way more aggressive than Sweden. I mean, Spain literally had over 85% of the possession. That's ridiculous.

I dont disagree.  They were throwing men forward in the second half on counters, especially right after I posted that    But every time Portugal had possession in the Hungary half, there were 8-9 men around the 18 yard box.  It was just not at all entertaining, especially after that Spain/Sweden disaster.  The France/Germany match was 1-0, but infinitely more action and compelling viewing. 

Some people love uber defensive soccer and watching a team put up a wall that the opponent has to pick and prod at all match.  To me its horrid.

[Its DJOver]

How did Rudiger stay on the field yesterday.  His "bite" certainly wasn't as egregious as some of Suarez's, but it should still be a red, and there's no excuse for missing something like that with VAR, especially with all the hell Pogba was raising about it.

On a brighter note, this was really nice to see, especially Anthony Taylor at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQiJtb0jVco