Futbol Talk

[BM1090]

It didn't go the way they wanted, but, a nice achievement as Tim Ream made his 200th appearance for Fulham today.

And hopefully just one or two more before they replace him with a new CB. The number one position Fulham needs to upgrade.

Ugly start to the campaign today but with only 4 or 5 of the preferred 11 in the team it was to be expected.

[shoothoops]

Nice moment and a great goal for 23 year old Jack Harrison. Played at Wake Forest, was former National Gatorade Player of the Year in Massachusetts:

https://twitter.com/rogbennett/status/1304825823468367872?s=19

[Its DJOver]

Man, Leeds are the real deal, deserved a point IMO. Just the kind of breaks that it seems like Liverpool have gotten in the final 10 minutes of games the 18 months or so.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Man, Leeds are the real deal, deserved a point IMO. Just the kind of breaks that it seems like Liverpool have gotten in the final 10 minutes of games the 18 months or so.

Mo salah is so punchable.

Leeds will be solid this year.

[jesmu84]

Come home, Gareth!

[Pakuni]

Come home, Gareth!

A Bale-for-Dele swap is ... interesting?

[jesmu84]

A Bale-for-Dele swap is ... interesting?

I worry about the price, the team chemistry and is wing play what really ails Tottenham?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

A Bale-for-Dele swap is ... interesting?

Only 1 source reporting that.  Dele would be gone if he's loaned to RM.

Shít performance v Everton, Mou masterclass to sign a bunch of players.  8D chess.   

[Pakuni]

I worry about the price, the team chemistry and is wing play what really ails Tottenham?

Real supposedly would pick uo half his wages, and if Dele goes back in return, the net increase for Spurs is relatively small.
Not sure how much Bale helps. Spurs may also be adding Sergio Reguilón.

[jesmu84]

No doubt Levy watched Everton start a bunch of transfers and the win while Tottenham looked limp. He brought in Mou. Levy knows now is the time.

[Its DJOver]

Gonna be hilarious to watch them implode over the next 18 months, because they could add Reguilon, Bale, and keep Dele, and they're still finishing no higher than 3rd in the Prem.  Would that be worth it to win the Europa League?

[Pakuni]

Gonna be hilarious to watch them implode over the next 18 months, because they could add Reguilon, Bale, and keep Dele, and they're still finishing no higher than 3rd in the Prem.  Would that be worth it to win the Europa League?

For Spurs, yes. Any trophy will do.
And third in the PL isn't exactly a shameful showing, you know?

[JWags85]

For Spurs, yes. Any trophy will do.
And third in the PL isn't exactly a shameful showing, you know?

Especially when 1 and 2 are City and Liverpool.

The move looks risky to be sure, but something needed to be done

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Especially when 1 and 2 are City and Liverpool.

The move looks risky to be sure, but something needed to be done

Just getting some big names in before Enic sells to Bezos.

[Its DJOver]

For Spurs, yes. Any trophy will do.
And third in the PL isn't exactly a shameful showing, you know?

Not shameful at all, just amusing to watch one of the more conservative clubs over the last decade go (essentially) all in on big names like Jose, and potentially Bale, when their ceiling is most likely the second tier European competition or a domestic cup.  Very anti-Spurs IMO.

[The Sultan]

Not shameful at all, just amusing to watch one of the more conservative clubs over the last decade go (essentially) all in on big names like Jose, and potentially Bale, when their ceiling is most likely the second tier European competition or a domestic cup.  Very anti-Spurs IMO.

They made the UCL Finals and finished fourth just over a year ago. And didn't build that stadium to maintain that.

Not saying they are making good moves but they don't aspire for the ceiling you mention.

[Its DJOver]

They made the UCL Finals and finished fourth just over a year ago. And didn't build that stadium to maintain that.

Not saying they are making good moves but they don't aspire for the ceiling you mention.

I'm sure they don't, but they should also recognize that a 31 year old Bale, who has had fitness problems and hasn't seen very minutes at all the last 3 years, will not get them there.  I don't know what it'll cost them to get him, but I can guarantee that there are better, long term uses of that money.

[Pakuni]

Not shameful at all, just amusing to watch one of the more conservative clubs over the last decade go (essentially) all in on big names like Jose, and potentially Bale, when their ceiling is most likely the second tier European competition or a domestic cup.  Very anti-Spurs IMO.

Suggesting their ceiling is second-tier Euro is kind of weird for a team that's 15 months removed from the Champions League finals and has been in the UCL four of the last five years.

As for going all in on Jose, I don't think they're paying for 2010 Mourinho here. Jose's tenure at Man U sullied his reputation pretty good, and I suspect Levy got him at a bargain rate.

By all accounts, Bale isn't going to cost them much, if anything. Some reports say it's going to be a loan or maybe even a free transfer, with Real picking up half his salary. The name is splashy, but the price is not.

[Its DJOver]

The whole point is that if you go with a Bale, Jose front, your essentially setting you window at about 2 years.  By then Jose will have worn out his welcome and Bale will be 33.  Why would you not continue to invest on young upcoming players that may be under-evaluated by some?

That doesn't even take into account that Spurs largest problem has been by-and-large defensively.  Now Vertonghen is gone, Alderweireld is 31.  Sanchez is very good, but then you're going to relying on Dier, whose best position IMO isn't CB.  Unless they have someone coming from the academy that is about to break through, they'll struggle to keep clean sheets again.

[Pakuni]

The whole point is that if you go with a Bale, Jose front, your essentially setting you window at about 2 years.  By then Jose will have worn out his welcome and Bale will be 33.  Why would you not continue to invest on young upcoming players that may be under-evaluated by some?

That doesn't even take into account that Spurs largest problem has been by-and-large defensively.  Now Vertonghen is gone, Alderweireld is 31.  Sanchez is very good, but then you're going to relying on Dier, whose best position IMO isn't CB.  Unless they have someone coming from the academy that is about to break through, they'll struggle to keep clean sheets again.

These are all very fair questions and criticisms, but also a long way from what you were writing earlier about Spurs' ceiling, aspirations and spending.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Which of you cats are spurs?  I know jesmu is.  Who else?

[Pakuni]

Which of you cats are spurs?  I know jesmu is.  Who else?

#coys
Since the glorious Harry Redknapp era.

[Its DJOver]

These are all very fair questions and criticisms, but also a long way from what you were writing earlier about Spurs' ceiling, aspirations and spending.

I guess we'll just agree to disagree. My whole point that I'm trying to make is that these moves (Jose, Bale) are very un-Spurs-ish IMO. And IMO it won't work out the way the Spurs fans hope.

[Pakuni]

Sounds like Bale and Reguilon to Spurs are both imminent, if not #donedeal.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Sounds like Bale and Reguilon to Spurs are both imminent, if not #donedeal.

Reguilon is "here we go."
Bale is close but not over the line yet.