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Title: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: HowardsWorld on November 07, 2019, 07:56:07 AM
6 Days away but I always get excited about these match ups. Last year I attended Buffalo, Wisconsin and K-State.

An interesting battle that no one is talking about is Haams the 7 ft 3 guy from Purdue against Theo John. That will be a junk yard dog battle down low.

I fully expect a win here if Howard is on but should be a good game regardless.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 07, 2019, 08:01:19 AM
I am not very confident about this game and I have no idea why anyone would expect a win.  They are a top 25 team playing at home, and Marquette is Markus Howard and a bunch of unknowns.  I'm more worried about this turning into Indiana from last year more than anything.

And Haarms against John concerns me because of Theo's foul issues.  This is exactly the game where we needed Jayce, and unfortunately that's not going to happen.

I'd be surprised if we lose by only 10.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: HowardsWorld on November 07, 2019, 08:03:51 AM
I am not very confident about this game and I have no idea why anyone would expect a win.  They are a top 25 team playing at home, and Marquette is Markus Howard and a bunch of unknowns.  I'm more worried about this turning into Indiana from last year more than anything.

And Haarms against John concerns me because of Theo's foul issues.  This is exactly the game where we needed Jayce, and unfortunately that's not going to happen.

I'd be surprised if we lose by only 10.

You do know the game is @ Marquette right?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 07, 2019, 08:09:08 AM
Yeah, I have no idea why I screwed that up.  I knew that but somehow had in mind that we had two road games upcoming.

I'm still concerned and don't expect to win however. 

Thanks for pointing out my obvious error.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: brewcity77 on November 07, 2019, 08:13:00 AM
Nojel Eastern is dinged up. Held out of the exhibition with a knee and was taken to the locker room for his wrist yesterday. Watched some of the Green Bay game and while they have some talent, I'm not convinced Proctor is a go-to guy at the high major level.

Both teams can defend, but I don't think they can score enough to beat us.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MUDPT on November 07, 2019, 08:18:06 AM
They not only have Haarms, but also Trevion Williams and Evan Boudreaux inside.  I expected them to be more of an inside team this year, but Proctor went for 26 last night.  Eastern may be injured, but I expect lots of different looks at Markus.  Aaron Wheeler and Eric Hunter will also probably spend time guarding him.  This is a team that looks like a bad match up, but we shall see.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: BCHoopster on November 07, 2019, 08:21:17 AM
It is all about Markus, when he is on MU will be fine, off, they lose. Purdue lost Carson Edwards, they do not have much fire power this year.  Watched the game last night, they are more physical but are not that talented.  No 3 point shooters. If Theo does not get into foul trouble, I can see an MU win.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: GoldenEagles32 on November 07, 2019, 08:24:08 AM
I feel like haarms has been there for at least 10 years
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: brewcity77 on November 07, 2019, 08:35:28 AM
I feel like haarms has been there for at least 10 years

Probably because he's a clone of Isaac Haas before him.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: The Lens on November 07, 2019, 08:39:08 AM
Wojo has been boat raced in these Gavitt Games. I’m expecting that to continue.  Just hoping we can keep it close.  So far each of these games have been a blow out.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: TheyWereCones on November 07, 2019, 08:42:02 AM
Wojo has been boat raced in these Gavitt Games. I’m expecting that to continue.  Just hoping we can keep it close.  So far each of these games have been a blow out.

This is exactly what I was going to say.  Our track record in the Gavitt games, even at home, is horrendous.  No way I'm getting my hopes up for this one.  Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: StillAWarrior on November 07, 2019, 08:43:27 AM
I'm looking forward to it because it's a new opportunity to bet with one of my kids.  My older daughter -- bless her heart -- was willing to agree to an MU/GU bet where she had to wear one of my MU shirts around campus after MU won.  I agreed to wear GU gear if they lost.  But I wear GU gear that she's given me from time to time anyway, so that's nothing.  I'm going to try to make the same bet with my PU daughter, but I don't think she'll fall for that.  She's going to want something from me.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Nukem2 on November 07, 2019, 08:51:47 AM
Probably because he's a clone of Isaac Haas before him.
Yah, but Haarms is a whole lot skinnier than Haas. ;)
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 07, 2019, 08:51:59 AM
Purdue lost 3 starters who combined to average 94 minutes and 42 points per game. Included in that trio was their version of Markus Howard. Their "unknown" factor is greater than ours. As Brew pointed out, their best player (Eastern) is dinged. We're at home. I assume we'll be slight favorites. If Fluffy is right (Purdue wins in a blow out) I'll be surprised and disappointed.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MUfan12 on November 07, 2019, 09:17:24 AM
Both teams can defend, but I don't think they can score enough to beat us.

They can if MU isn't stronger with the basketball than they were Tuesday.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MarquetteDano on November 07, 2019, 09:20:22 AM
Watched some of game last night. A lot of lengrh on perimeter. Dont like that one bit.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Ellenson Family Reunion on November 07, 2019, 09:29:49 AM
If we had Jayce in the mix I'd say 60/40 MU, without him Haarms might be too much if Theo gets in foul trouble.

Good game for Koby to step up as a legit #2 option and hopefully Greg & Brendan's threes are dropping
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: cheebs09 on November 07, 2019, 09:34:49 AM
Probably because he's a clone of Isaac Haas before him.

It’s disgusting Indiana schools get away with this. How many Harangodey clones were there at ND?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 07, 2019, 09:44:41 AM
Under Wojo, MU is 0-5 in the first B1G games (Gavitt or not) of the season.  Wojo is also 1-4 in BE lidlifters. Time to change this.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MUEng92 on November 07, 2019, 12:10:29 PM
Yah, but Haarms is a whole lot skinnier than Haas. ;)

Which one was the OCD hair flipper?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: 4everDawson on November 07, 2019, 09:13:49 PM
If we had Jayce in the mix I'd say 60/40 MU, without him Haarms might be too much if Theo gets in foul trouble.

Good game for Koby to step up as a legit #2 option and hopefully Greg & Brendan's threes are dropping

No Sacar love?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on November 08, 2019, 04:58:27 AM
Yeah, I have no idea why I screwed that up.  I knew that but somehow had in mind that we had two road games upcoming.

I'm still concerned and don't expect to win however. 

Thanks for pointing out my obvious error.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on November 08, 2019, 05:00:57 AM
I am not very confident about this game and I have no idea why anyone would expect a win.  They are a top 25 team playing at home, and Marquette is Markus Howard and a bunch of unknowns.  I'm more worried about this turning into Indiana from last year more than anything.

And Haarms against John concerns me because of Theo's foul issues.  This is exactly the game where we needed Jayce, and unfortunately that's not going to happen.

I'd be surprised if we lose by only 10.

Your comment is obviously flawed as we play them at home in Milwaukee and will beat them by ten.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: skianth16 on November 08, 2019, 09:26:17 AM
This will be a good test for Theo. You've got to think Painter will go at Theo early to see if they can get him to pick up a few quick fouls to get him out of the game. It's hard for me to remember much about Haarms' game with all the hair flipping burned in my brain, but from what I do recall, I don't think he's got a ton of offensive ability. He's huge, so that's always going to be an advantage, but Theo's strength and athleticism should help to offset that. If Theo can manage to stay out of foul trouble, this could be a fun matchup to watch.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: skianth16 on November 08, 2019, 09:38:26 AM
The Busting Brackets pre-season review has a good preview for the Purdue matchup. If Markus gets hot and our defense holds up, I think we can reverse some of the ugly trends noted in the preview.

https://bustingbrackets.com/2019/06/28/marquette-basketball-reviewing-2019-20-non-conference-schedule/3/ (https://bustingbrackets.com/2019/06/28/marquette-basketball-reviewing-2019-20-non-conference-schedule/3/)
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 08, 2019, 09:41:17 AM
Under Wojo, MU is 0-5 in the first B1G games (Gavitt or not) of the season.  Wojo is also 1-4 in BE lidlifters. Time to change this.

Crapshoots, ai'na?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MU82 on November 08, 2019, 04:42:26 PM
Just got an email from MU ticket office with advertisement for $10 tickets for this game.

The $10 tickets vs. Big Ten foe Purdue will go on sale Sunday, November 10 at 10:00 a.m. for ONLY 10 hours (10:00 a.m. - 8:00 p.m.), while supplies last!

I guess demand for a November weeknight game isn't super-high, even for a ranked opponent. Nice to see they are willing to do what it takes to fill the joint. I wish I could go!
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MUDPT on November 08, 2019, 05:58:24 PM
This will be a good test for Theo. You've got to think Painter will go at Theo early to see if they can get him to pick up a few quick fouls to get him out of the game. It's hard for me to remember much about Haarms' game with all the hair flipping burned in my brain, but from what I do recall, I don't think he's got a ton of offensive ability. He's huge, so that's always going to be an advantage, but Theo's strength and athleticism should help to offset that. If Theo can manage to stay out of foul trouble, this could be a fun matchup to watch.

Haarms is really skilled in high PnRs. Didn’t get a chance to see Proctor the other night, but Haarms is dangerous with the right partner. Not really a back to the basket guy like Haas was.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: vvnev on November 08, 2019, 08:02:52 PM
Game will likely be decided by the zebras and what kind of game they will call.  Early in the season they tend to call tight games and this will likely hurt our chances of a win.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Its DJOver on November 08, 2019, 08:33:53 PM
Game will likely be decided by the zebras and what kind of game they will call.  Early in the season they tend to call tight games and this will likely hurt our chances of a win.

Really?  I would think the tighter they call it the better chance we'll have. Theo may foul out, but Markus could get 15-20 fts, and we all know that TEAM FREE THROW RATE matta.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: GoldenEagles32 on November 09, 2019, 01:44:29 PM
Texas at Purdue on FS1 today
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: GoldenEagles32 on November 09, 2019, 07:24:57 PM
Watching them play right now, Wheeler will be the difference maker in the game
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Class71 on November 09, 2019, 07:38:20 PM
Kenpom says we win by 1 at home. He also has us ranked at 15 and Prudue at 7. I have tremendous respect for his predictions but  I don't see this going our way. I will love to be wrong but I see us loosing by double digits.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: brewcity77 on November 09, 2019, 08:05:10 PM
I know it's early, but Purdue is sloppy. A number of late, unforced turnovers and another Haarms offensive foul have allowed Texas to reclaim the lead after falling down by 5.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: GoldenEagles32 on November 09, 2019, 08:08:26 PM
Texas is using the pick and roll very well
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on November 09, 2019, 08:11:53 PM
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Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MuMark on November 09, 2019, 08:13:13 PM
Purdue destroying them on the boards........we are going to need to limit turnovers and shoot it well because I fear they are going to get a high percentage of their misses back on offensive rebounds.

Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Johnny B on November 09, 2019, 08:22:50 PM
Purdue takes the L. Hopefully we beat these clowns at fiserv
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MuMark on November 09, 2019, 08:24:13 PM
Refs not kind to Boilers at the end. Great win for Texas.......2 good teams battled until the end.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 09, 2019, 08:32:44 PM
Refs not kind to Boilers at the end. Great win for Texas.......2 good teams battled until the end.

Both these teams look to be Top 20.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 09, 2019, 08:59:59 PM
0-9 is embarrassing. Got to exorcise the Rick Mount ghost and win one of these.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MU82 on November 09, 2019, 10:10:54 PM
All's we have to do is channel our inner Shaka.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Mutaman on November 09, 2019, 11:04:27 PM
All's we have to do is channel our inner Shaka.

Done deal !
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: muwarrior69 on November 10, 2019, 08:14:51 AM
Kenpom says we win by 1 at home. He also has us ranked at 15 and Prudue at 7. I have tremendous respect for his predictions but  I don't see this going our way. I will love to be wrong but I see us loosing by double digits.

Sadly, I agree as Markus is the only guy that can score on our team as the other 4 just stand around passing the ball side to side.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Johnny B on November 10, 2019, 08:24:39 AM
Sadly, I agree as Markus is the only guy that can score on our team as the other 4 just stand around passing the ball side to side.
How lowly do you think of this team? They just lost to texas. They dont seem crazy good. Were gonna lose at home by double digits? I mean maybe but damn I think were better than getting blown out at home to purdue
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: TAMU Garcia on November 10, 2019, 08:48:55 AM
Will Baker, top 35 recruit for Texas, 7 minutes, 0 points, 2 rebounds, 0 turnovers. Not the production Texas fans thought they'd be getting.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: zcg2013 on November 10, 2019, 09:10:15 AM
Watched a majority of the game. Purdue swarms to the ball as soon as it gets in the paint. I think we should see Markus more off ball and have Kobe drive and kick early and often.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: brewcity77 on November 10, 2019, 09:19:05 AM
Watched a majority of the game. Purdue swarms to the ball as soon as it gets in the paint. I think we should see Markus more off ball and have Kobe drive and kick early and often.

They even were swarming early on drives. Lots of easy baskets at the rim when they would initiate a drive to draw a defender out of the paint and thread a pass to attackers in the post. Our bigs could really thrive doing that if our guards can get the ball in there.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Class71 on November 10, 2019, 06:18:06 PM
Watched a majority of the game. Purdue swarms to the ball as soon as it gets in the paint. I think we should see Markus more off ball and have Kobe drive and kick early and often.

Agree but is it in our playbook? So far we are seeing a game plan similar to last year.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 10, 2019, 06:24:24 PM
Agree but is it in our playbook? So far we are seeing a game plan similar to last year.

Koby brought up the ball with Markus playing off quite a bit last week. Regardless it was one game.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Marcus92 on November 11, 2019, 11:40:43 AM
Purdue's a good, well-coached team. KenPom ranks them #9 in the country. But this is definitely a winnable game.

Texas (ranked #30) put up 1.09 ppp, shooting 65.2% from 2-point range and 40.9% beyond the arc. After Purdue took a 62-57 lead with 3:14 to go, the Longhorns outscored the Boilermakers 13-4 the rest of the way. In other words, Purdue faded badly down the stretch and got outplayed at home by a team they should have beaten.

Even with 7-3 Matt Haarms, 6-9 Aaron Wheeler and 6-9 Trevion Williams, their interior defense was mostly ineffective. While they kept Texas off the offensive glass and forced 16 turnovers, that doesn't matter much when you allow an effective field goal percentage of 63.3% by your opponent. That was Purdue's worst defensive performance since losing to Virginia Tech on a neutral court a year ago.

If Marquette can keep turnovers in check, we should have the athleticism and depth to run Purdue out of Fiserv Forum.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Jay Bee on November 11, 2019, 12:11:59 PM
Will Baker, top 35 recruit for Texas, 7 minutes, 0 points, 2 rebounds, 0 turnovers. Not the production Texas fans thought they'd be getting.

Ouch

Watched him a bunch 2 years ago bc he ran with our guy Quentin Grimes... was a pretty big fan tbh
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 11, 2019, 12:47:23 PM
Any word on Jayce? Feel like he is a big cog in this game
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 11, 2019, 12:50:37 PM

If Marquette can keep turnovers in check, we should have the athleticism and depth to run Purdue out of Fiserv Forum.

Uh oh...
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Marcus92 on November 11, 2019, 01:42:49 PM
T-Rank projects a 73-70 Marquette win over Purdue.

http://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Marquette&year=2020 (http://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Marquette&year=2020)

The Matchup Zone predicts an even bigger winning margin: 81-73 Marquette.

http://matchup-zone.com/teams/2020/MARQ/schedule (http://matchup-zone.com/teams/2020/MARQ/schedule)
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 11, 2019, 01:44:37 PM
I wish they hadn't lost to Texas. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Marcus92 on November 11, 2019, 01:57:28 PM
I wish they hadn't lost to Texas.

Of course, there's a couple other ways to look at it: 1) Purdue isn't as good as the preseason rankings project -- at least, not at this point in the season; and/or 2) Texas just gave us the blueprint to beating the Boilermakers.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: MU82 on November 11, 2019, 02:27:24 PM
T-Rank projects a 73-70 Marquette win over Purdue.

http://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Marquette&year=2020 (http://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Marquette&year=2020)

The Matchup Zone predicts an even bigger winning margin: 81-73 Marquette.

http://matchup-zone.com/teams/2020/MARQ/schedule (http://matchup-zone.com/teams/2020/MARQ/schedule)

I'll take either of those. Can we just skip the formality of actually playing, claim the victory, and start getting ready for F%cky?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Johnny B on November 11, 2019, 02:36:34 PM
I'm bored as hell. Bring on the games already
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 11, 2019, 02:47:06 PM
I'm bored as hell. Bring on the games already

Same.  Opening week schedule for MU gets a giant F. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Warrior Code on November 11, 2019, 03:03:12 PM
Any word on Jayce? Feel like he is a big cog in this game

https://twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1193996562910699520

Not available to play yet
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Marcus92 on November 11, 2019, 03:44:35 PM
Same. Opening week schedule for MU gets a giant F.

The wait is excruciating. But it will be worth it if the extra time for game planning and practice pays off against Purdue.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: ManeCity83 on November 11, 2019, 03:47:01 PM
Same.  Opening week schedule for MU gets a giant F.

Agree completely.  But it's offset by the A grade for week two scheduling.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: tower912 on November 11, 2019, 03:52:45 PM
Shoot well.   Move the ball.  No cheap turnovers.   Pressure the ball on defense.    Compete on the defensive boards.     Of course, that is the formula in most games. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 11, 2019, 03:57:04 PM
Agree completely.  But it's offset by the A grade for week two scheduling.

I guess.  Playing Wisconsin on a Sunday is also a giant fail.  Allowing yourself to play Purdue with a week off after Purdue has already played a game of significance.  Also a fail. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: TallTitan34 on November 11, 2019, 03:57:53 PM
Marquette is 0-9 lifetime vs Purdue.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Jay Bee on November 11, 2019, 04:00:10 PM
I’m scurred. Please limit second chances for Purdue

Texas shot 63.3% & barely won

774-81 win-loss in 2018-19 for teams shooting 63.3% eFG% or better
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: ManeCity83 on November 11, 2019, 04:01:25 PM
I guess.  Playing Wisconsin on a Sunday is also a giant fail. 

Not on a Sunday when the Packers have a bye.    ;D
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Jay Bee on November 11, 2019, 04:06:35 PM
The fans at the Kohl Hole can watch my Vikings on my iPhone during the game. Thanks, YTTV
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 11, 2019, 04:21:17 PM
Marquette is 0-9 lifetime vs Purdue.

That’s brutal.  Let’s get a win this week.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Marcus92 on November 11, 2019, 04:38:34 PM
If you need a little extra confidence, read some of the comments from Purdue fans about blowing the lead against Texas. More than one criticizes Nojel Eastern for not being tough enough after taking a shot below the belt. And check out the thread titled "We suck."

https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/last-2-min.180548 (https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/last-2-min.180548/)

https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/learnings-for-this-game.180551/ (https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/learnings-for-this-game.180551/)

https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/we-suck.180537/ (https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/we-suck.180537/)
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Pakuni on November 11, 2019, 04:42:30 PM
I guess.  Playing Wisconsin on a Sunday is also a giant fail.  Allowing yourself to play Purdue with a week off after Purdue has already played a game of significance.  Also a fail.

Scoop will complain about anything.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: marqfan22 on November 11, 2019, 06:50:35 PM
So we go to Pursue next year? Or was this a challenge game?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: barfolomew on November 11, 2019, 06:54:53 PM
Shoot well.   Move the ball.  No cheap turnovers.   Pressure the ball on defense.    Compete, compete, compete on the defensive boards.     Of course, that is the formula in most games.

FIFY
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Johnny B on November 11, 2019, 06:55:53 PM
So we go to Pursue next year? Or was this a challenge game?
Its gavit game. No pursue next year
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 12, 2019, 12:56:45 PM
Scoop will complain about anything.

I mean, its a pretty legit thing to complain about.  The opening week schedule was atrocious. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 12, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
Not on a Sunday when the Packers have a bye.    ;D

A significant portion of Marquette fans don't give a flying fu** about the Packers. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: DienerTime34 on November 12, 2019, 12:58:16 PM
We need to stay out of Haarms way.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: UWW2MU on November 12, 2019, 01:03:47 PM
A significant portion of Marquette fans don't give a flying fu** about the Packers.

Buuuuut, a significant portion of Marquette fans do give a flying fu** about the packers.   


Although this feels way too early in the season for this game, I'm glad it fills this gap I have in my Sundays.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 12, 2019, 01:06:12 PM
Buuuuut, a significant portion of Marquette fans do give a flying fu** about the packers.   


Although this feels way too early in the season for this game, I'm glad it fills this gap I have in my Sundays.

Sure, but as you said, still wayyyy to early for this game, and also removes 1 of the biggest games of the year from the national spotlight.  No casual fans are tuning into Marquette-Wisconsin instead of NFL at noon on a Sunday.  Playing this game on a Sunday is a schedule failure. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Pakuni on November 12, 2019, 01:15:47 PM
I mean, its a pretty legit thing to complain about.  The opening week schedule was atrocious.

Marquette doesn't schedule the Gavitt Games, you know?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 12, 2019, 01:18:21 PM
Marquette doesn't schedule the Gavitt Games, you know?

Yah, I am aware.  I am talking about the week leading up to the Purdue game.  Ya know, where we only played 1 game against a crapty team and pretty much all major teams have already played 2 or 3 games. 

Should be interesting playing a Purdue team that has already been battle tested. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Pakuni on November 12, 2019, 01:37:19 PM
Yah, I am aware.  I am talking about the week leading up to the Purdue game.  Ya know, where we only played 1 game against a crapty team and pretty much all major teams have already played 2 or 3 games. 

Should be interesting playing a Purdue team that has already been battle tested.

So your complaint is Marquette isn't "battle tested" enough to play Purdue?
But, if MU had played another P6 school over the weekend, wouldn't they have lacked "battle testedness" for that game instead?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Johnny B on November 12, 2019, 02:13:24 PM
If we say power 6 dont we have to be honest and say power 7?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: TAMU Garcia on November 12, 2019, 02:18:05 PM
If we say power 6 dont we have to be honest and say power 7?

Who's the 7th?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Pakuni on November 12, 2019, 02:19:23 PM
If we say power 6 dont we have to be honest and say power 7?

ACC
Big 10
Big 12
Big East
Pac 12
SEC

Who am I missing?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Johnny B on November 12, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
AAC closer to power conference than they are closer to the rest you could argue. Ehhh.. big east is way ahead this year. With uconn leaving yeah idk. On second thought nvm..
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 12, 2019, 02:35:10 PM
So your complaint is Marquette isn't "battle tested" enough to play Purdue?
But, if MU had played another P6 school over the weekend, wouldn't they have lacked "battle testedness" for that game instead?

If they played another team this weekend, chances are it would have been that teams first game against a real opponent.

It is what it is, but the early season schedule was poorly structured.  There was no good reason to not a have a game last weekend. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: UWW2MU on November 12, 2019, 02:39:20 PM
If they played another team this weekend, chances are it would have been that teams first game against a real opponent.

It is what it is, but the early season schedule was poorly structured.  There was no good reason to not a have a game last weekend.

Unless it was an away game, they'd have had to play vs. robot dinosaurs.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Jay Bee on November 12, 2019, 02:40:12 PM
If they played another team this weekend, chances are it would have been that teams first game against a real opponent.

It is what it is, but the early season schedule was poorly structured.  There was no good reason to not a have a game last weekend.

Scrimmaging almighty I4 has probably toughened us up for any competition we might face this year a1na
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Pakuni on November 12, 2019, 02:41:39 PM
If they played another team this weekend, chances are it would have been that teams first game against a real opponent.

It is what it is, but the early season schedule was poorly structured.  There was no good reason to not a have a game last weekend.

Fiserv was booked all weekend.
So, I suppose they could have played a cupcake at the Al, taken a loss on it and not be any better prepared for Purdue.

Either way, they were going to have to play a P6 team at some point without having been previously "battle tested," whether that was over the weekend or Wednesday against Purdue.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 12, 2019, 02:43:48 PM
Fiserv was booked all weekend.
So, I suppose they could have played a cupcake at the Al, taken a loss on it and not be any better prepared for Purdue.

Either way, they were going to have to play a P6 team at some point without having been previously "battle tested," whether that was over the weekend or Wednesday against Purdue.

You're choosing to ignore that the other team has / or has not played a real opponent.  But whatever, clearly we disagree but it is what it is. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: tower912 on November 12, 2019, 03:01:52 PM
Options for game between Loyola and Purdue.  1.  Road game.  2.  Game at the Al.  Road game has to be against a P6 school.  Game at the Al ticks off the STH's. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 12, 2019, 03:11:17 PM
Options for game between Loyola and Purdue.  1.  Road game.  2.  Game at the Al.  Road game has to be against a P6 school.  Game at the Al ticks off the STH's.

Start a 3 or 4 for 1 with UWM or Green Bay.  Play first year on the road. 

Or start another home and home with a real opponent.

Boom - solved. 
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Pakuni on November 12, 2019, 03:14:14 PM
Start a 3 or 4 for 1 at UWM or Green Bay.  Play first year on the road. 

Or start another home and home with a real opponent.

Boom - solved.

You want to commit to a four-year deal with a non-buy game opponent that includes a road game - all of which probably eliminates a home-and-home with a good team -  just to avoid a single weekend without a game?
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: tower912 on November 12, 2019, 03:23:57 PM
More time to heal and less games to miss for Jayce.   
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 12, 2019, 04:21:31 PM
Yeah I'm not sure why the lack of a game this weekend really matters in the end.  And no, playing a 3 for 1 with UWM or GB is a non-starter.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Silent Verbal on November 12, 2019, 04:45:36 PM
Yeah I'm not sure why the lack of a game this weekend really matters in the end.  And no, playing a 3 for 1 with UWM or GB is a non-starter.

People (myself included) are just hungry for MU ball.  When almost every other team has already played 2-3 games and the only one we’ve played was against the Little Sisters of the Poor on a TV network that reached fewer sets than a backwoods public access channel, I understand the frustration.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 12, 2019, 05:05:34 PM
People (myself included) are just hungry for MU ball.  When almost every other team has already played 2-3 games and the only one we’ve played was against the Little Sisters of the Poor on a TV network that reached fewer sets than a backwoods public access channel, I understand the frustration.

We will get the games in. Don’t worry.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Pakuni on November 12, 2019, 05:06:31 PM
People (myself included) are just hungry for MU ball.  When almost every other team has already played 2-3 games and the only one we’ve played was against the Little Sisters of the Poor on a TV network that reached fewer sets than a backwoods public access channel, I understand the frustration.

Sure, I get that. It's just not a big "fail" on the program's behalf because they couldn't get a game in this weekend, largely due to circumstances beyond their control.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on November 12, 2019, 05:14:42 PM
A significant portion of Marquette fans don't give a flying fu** about the Packers.

Beg your pardon. May God forgive you.
Title: Re: Lets talk Purdue
Post by: Its DJOver on November 12, 2019, 05:20:32 PM
People (myself included) are just hungry for MU ball.  When almost every other team has already played 2-3 games and the only one we’ve played was against the Little Sisters of the Poor on a TV network that reached fewer sets than a backwoods public access channel, I understand the frustration.

For the record, DePaul is the only Beast team that has played someone that wouldn't be on the level of the Little Sisters of the Poor, and that was their Gavitt game where the schedule was out of their control.  Right now it's us, CU, and Nova with one buy win, SH, PC, StJ, X, GU, and BU with 2 buy wins, and DP sitting pretty with 3+ the first Gavitt game.  The way I see it, given the FF scheduling there is no other (logical) way we could have had our schedule.