Do we look like the desperate person that got spurned years ago and now is ready to take them again with open arms because we're still enamored with them?
Or does Shaka look like he's coming to us saying "should've gone with you way back when"?
Just feels like the national perception is one or the other given Donedeal part 1.
This hire will be well thought of nationally. MU married up today the BE should be put on notice.
The average fan has no idea that Shaka spurned us.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2021, 11:44:28 AM
This hire will be well thought of nationally. MU married up today the BE should be put on notice.
Goose
Love the enthusiasm you are putting out, it's infectious. Great to see you this way after the last couple seasons.
It's being received well in Big East circles, for sure. We just made a hire that didn't seem possible a week or so ago.
Listening to Sirius XM, National Perception is very high for Marquette and not a good look for Texas.
Crash,
Nice to MU to join that club.
In the realm of things, who cares? Not me
I want to hear if they went after Moser or not and would feel much better if they did and it didnt work out
Quote from: tower912 on March 26, 2021, 11:45:32 AM
The average fan has no idea that Shaka spurned us.
This. Honestly, I doubt many die-hard college hoops fans have any clue about that.
I have gotten at least a dozen texts today, and every single one of them is thrilled with this hire.
Quote from: tower912 on March 26, 2021, 11:45:32 AM
The average fan has no idea that Shaka spurned us.
This. It's not just 'not a big deal,' to the average fan, it's no deal at all.
Quote from: tower912 on March 26, 2021, 11:45:32 AM
The average fan has no idea that Shaka spurned us.
And they see Texas was a top 15 team most of the year who won the B12 tourney.
MU got a coach that just got a 3 seed at Texas, not Kansas St at the bottom of the B12. Most people dont know or care about the backroom chatter. This looks big time.
Quote from: PhillyWarrior on March 26, 2021, 11:49:42 AM
In the realm of things, who cares? Not me
I want to hear if they went after Moser or not and would feel much better if they did and it didnt work out
Why? That would make Marquette look bad, whereas this looks very strong nationally.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2021, 11:48:00 AM
Crash,
Nice to MU join that club.
Goose,
This is a rock solid move. I couldn't be more proud of MU. This is a signature hire.
Texas fans are thrilled Shaka's gone. They didn't like him any more than MU fans liked Wojo.
Will be interesting to see who they get to replace him.
82
I have as well. Have heard from LA to NYC and everyone thinks a home run hire.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 26, 2021, 11:51:07 AM
And they see Texas was a top 15 team most of the year who won the B12 tourney.
MU got a coach that just got a 3 seed at Texas, not Kansas St at the bottom of the B12. Most people dont know or care about the backroom chatter. This looks big time.
Why? That would make Marquette look bad, whereas this looks very strong nationally.
J
You in for a Meat Summit?
Seems like Texas is spinning that Shaka was on his way out and jumped on the first life boat that could keep him afloat?
See: https://austonia.com/shaka-smart-leaves-ut
"Smart switched to Marquette before the university took action. He had about $7.1 million in guaranteed income left on his remaining two-year contract."
It's big. We swiped a title winning coach from a Power 5 school.
Many UW friends/fans texting me saying they hoped Shaka would end up at UW someday...these are guys that know basketball as well or better than the average fan. HS basketball coaches, former college players, etc... I couldn't be more pleased with MU.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2021, 11:44:28 AM
This hire will be well thought of nationally. MU married up today the BE should be put on notice.
+1000000.
Now let's get some fresh jerseys to start the Shaka era off right.
The most level headed spin is that this is a good move for all parties.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 26, 2021, 11:58:55 AM
It's big. We swiped a title winning coach from a Power 5 school.
Texas is a stepping stone job. First Barnes, now Shaka.
It isn't the best day for the don't hire someone running from something crowd. It's also an interesting day for the hire some people running from something, but not others, crowd.
Getting results is what matters. If Shaka can get results at Marquette, great, I am all for it. If he can't, MUBB will move on to the next coach. He will get a fair opportunity to succeed.
Quote from: PhillyWarrior on March 26, 2021, 11:49:42 AM
In the realm of things, who cares? Not me
I want to hear if they went after Moser or not and would feel much better if they did and it didnt work out
Agree 1000%
I don't give a rat's ass what National Perception is, I care what College age basketball players think and want.....if he bring's back the "Havoc" style I think it is a BIG-time hire and great marriage
Go Marquette!!!
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 26, 2021, 11:58:55 AM
It's big. We swiped a title winning coach from a Power 5 school.
Who was incapable of winning a single NCAA game at that Power 5 school and who's team vomited all over themselves on the big stage last weekend
I've got IU buddies texting me that they are jealous and this was a huge hire.
The dominos fall, assuming Beard takes Texas job, that's another target missed for IU.
National perception should be much like when Buzz left to V Tech. I have seen some media questioning the shine of the Texas job which ultimately be the test of who they hire there.
Shaka does being a level of national coach it wasn't long ago he was mentioned in same breath of a Brad Stevens. Goal is that he returns to that level and this hire is a slam dunk.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 26, 2021, 12:01:26 PM
Texas is a stepping stone job. First Barnes, now Shaka.
they ran Barnes out.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 26, 2021, 12:06:02 PM
they ran Barnes out.
Jokes are always funnier when you explain them.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 26, 2021, 12:06:02 PM
they ran Barnes out.
They've run the last 2 coaches out. Texas is the new Indiana
This will be another 7 years without an NCAA tournament win. I am not sure I can survive MUscoop the next 7 years.
Quote from: bilsu on March 26, 2021, 12:11:23 PM
This will be another 7 years without an NCAA tournament win.
Why?
Porter Moser went 12 years without an NCAA tournament win. Did that mean he was destined to go another 12 years without an NCAA tournament win? Jay Wright went 10 years without an NCAA tournament win. Did that mean he was destined to go another 10 years without an NCAA tournament win?
Shaka and MU are the Ross and Rachel of college hoops
Quote from: 1SE on March 26, 2021, 12:19:23 PM
Shaka and MU are the Ross and Rachel of college hoops
Haha nice
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 12:02:24 PM
Who was incapable of winning a single NCAA game at that Power 5 school and who's team vomited all over themselves on the big stage last weekend
The key to using pre-canned talking points is to have more than one.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 12:02:24 PM
Who was incapable of winning a single NCAA game at that Power 5 school and who's team vomited all over themselves on the big stage last weekend
Relax dude.
Quote from: bilsu on March 26, 2021, 12:11:23 PM
This will be another 7 years without an NCAA tournament win. I am not sure I can survive MUscoop the next 7 years.
#scooptakes
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2021, 11:44:28 AM
This hire will be well thought of nationally. MU married up today the BE should be put on notice.
Good move for MU and Shaka. This change will give Shaka the reset he needs. He now has a chip on his shoulder and I suspect he will do very well at MU.
Quote from: bilsu on March 26, 2021, 12:11:23 PM
This will be another 7 years without an NCAA tournament win. I am not sure I can survive MUscoop the next 7 years.
I'll take that bet.
I think the national perception of this hire is very high (not that it really matters much). Shaka is a household name. Marquette hasn't been relevant short of Markus Howard for the entirely of the Wojo era. I am getting texts from guys that hardly follow college basketball congratulating me on the huge hire.
I get why some people have some reservations about Shaka, but this is a home run hire for Marquette. Shaka is going to do big things here, and I wouldn't bet agaisnt it starting next year. I would have been fine with Gates/Moser, but we were looking at rebuild with those 2. Shaka, especially with the transfer situation around NCAA right now, is going to put together a good roster right away. Kids care about name recognition - Shaka and Texas have it. Loyola and Moser? Not so much.
He will be on the NCAAT breaks spewing all things MU and Big East this weekend.
I'm pretty excited.
I candidly thought that when the vitriol in Texas wore off, they'd come to their senses and keep Shaka. OK, he isn't perfect and lost to Abilene Christian, but for heavens sake, we lost to Miami of Ohio as defending national champions and a Top 10 ranked team. Virginia, just a few short years ago, had a dynamite team and lost to UMBC, a 16 seed. We didn't fire Hank (we should have) and Virginia didn't fire Tony Bennett.
What will matter now is what Shaka says when he's introduced. As a long-time supporter (though not as long as Brother Goose, probably), I want to hear something about winning a national title, Making Marquette Great Again and about having a "take no prisoners" attitude. I really hope he embraces the Marquette tradition of being a tough, well-coached, defensive, "let's have some fun out there" team who commits to making us the BEST IN THE NATION!!!!
It would be nice if he acknowledges he contacted Justin, DJ, Greg and Dawson and says, "they're staying!"
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 26, 2021, 12:46:56 PM
I'm pretty excited.
I candidly thought that when the vitriol in Texas wore off, they'd come to their senses and keep Shaka. OK, he isn't perfect and lost to Abilene Christian, but for heavens sake, we lost to Miami of Ohio as defending national champions and a Top 10 ranked team. Virginia, just a few short years ago, had a dynamite team and lost to UMBC, a 16 seed. We didn't fire Hank (we should have) and Virginia didn't fire Tony Bennett.
What will matter now is what Shaka says when he's introduced. As a long-time supporter (though not as long as Brother Goose, probably), I want to hear something about winning a national title, Making Marquette Great Again and about having a "take no prisoners" attitude. I really hope he embraces the Marquette tradition of being a tough, well-coached, defensive, "let's have some fun out there" team who commits to making us the BEST IN THE NATION!!!!
It would be nice if he acknowledges he contacted Justin, DJ, Greg and Dawson and says, "they're staying!"
What will matter is not what Shaka says but what he does, how his Marquette teams perform on the court. But I get what you mean.
Quote from: marquette20 on March 26, 2021, 12:03:46 PM
National perception should be much like when Buzz left to V Tech. I have seen some media questioning the shine of the Texas job which ultimately be the test of who they hire there.
Shaka does being a level of national coach it wasn't long ago he was mentioned in same breath of a Brad Stevens. Goal is that he returns to that level and this hire is a slam dunk.
The Buzz analogy is a good one. People forget that Buzz was probably a year or two away from being fired. Had a bad last season, and the next one was looking dismal.
People are also forgetting that before the ACU game, Texas was considering giving Shaka an extension.
People will look at a coach coming off a B12 tournament championship, and a 3-seed, and a former Final Four coach, leaving to go to MU. The optics are pretty awesome.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 26, 2021, 11:43:06 AM
Do we look like the desperate person that got spurned years ago and now is ready to take them again with open arms because we're still enamored with them?
Or does Shaka look like he's coming to us saying "should've gone with you way back when"?
Just feels like the national perception is one or the other given Donedeal part 1.
Archie looked like a homerun in '18 and Holtmann and Underwood were an afterthought. I wouldn't worry too much about the coverage, results are all that matters.
Forget national attention, let's just talk about perception in Marquette's own backyard.
Had two Marquette grads text me today thrilled about Shaka. They enjoyed Marquette basketball, went to most games but are certainly more casual than scoopers.
You gotta realize scoopers are a different sort of crazy when it comes to Marquette basketball. Optics are good.
Quote from: forgetful on March 26, 2021, 12:53:48 PM
The Buzz analogy is a good one. People forget that Buzz was probably a year or two away from being fired. Had a bad last season, and the next one was looking dismal.
People are also forgetting that before the ACU game, Texas was considering giving Shaka an extension.
People will look at a coach coming off a B12 tournament championship, and a 3-seed, and a former Final Four coach, leaving to go to MU. The optics are pretty awesome.
And what did he do with that 3 seed?
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 26, 2021, 12:46:56 PM
Virginia, just a few short years ago, had a dynamite team and lost to UMBC, a 16 seed. We didn't fire Hank (we should have) and Virginia didn't fire Tony Bennett.
Don't forget the rest of the story...they won the National Championship the following year...and then lost the 4/13 matchup to Ohio this year.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 26, 2021, 01:05:39 PM
Don't forget the rest of the story...they won the National Championship the following year...and then lost the 4/13 matchup to Ohio this year.
I'd take a natty if that meant sandwiching it between two first round exits.
Quote from: MU82 on March 26, 2021, 12:13:48 PM
Porter Moser went 12 years without an NCAA tournament win. Did that mean he was destined to go another 12 years without an NCAA tournament win? Jay Wright went 10 years without an NCAA tournament win. Did that mean he was destined to go another 10 years without an NCAA tournament win?
Should stuck with Wojo then, no?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 26, 2021, 11:43:06 AM
Do we look like the desperate person that got spurned years ago and now is ready to take them again with open arms because we're still enamored with them?
Or does Shaka look like he's coming to us saying "should've gone with you way back when"?
Just feels like the national perception is one or the other given Donedeal part 1.
I don't think Donedeal Part 1 is as known nationally as you think it is. I'm guessing not many beyond Scoop know what you're talking about.
Quote from: PhillyWarrior on March 26, 2021, 11:49:42 AM
In the realm of things, who cares? Not me
I want to hear if they went after Moser or not and would feel much better if they did and it didnt work out
We did, he was very interested, we got the guy we wanted instead.
Quote from: PhillyWarrior on March 26, 2021, 11:49:42 AM
In the realm of things, who cares? Not me
I want to hear if they went after Moser or not and would feel much better if they did and it didnt work out
Agreed. Overall, can't complain and hopefully Shaka injects some new energy and less vanilla personality into the program.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 26, 2021, 11:57:20 AM
Seems like Texas is spinning that Shaka was on his way out and jumped on the first life boat that could keep him afloat?
See: https://austonia.com/shaka-smart-leaves-ut
"Smart switched to Marquette before the university took action. He had about $7.1 million in guaranteed income left on his remaining two-year contract."
"His job role at Marquette has not been specified, but with the Marquette's head coaching slot open, reports say he's secured that position." ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 26, 2021, 01:06:43 PM
I'd take a natty if that meant sandwiching it between two first round exits.
Exactly.
Quote from: Farley36 on March 26, 2021, 01:08:42 PM
I don't think Donedeal Part 1 is as known nationally as you think it is. I'm guessing not many beyond Scoop know what you're talking about.
It was brought up on Goodman's podcast the other day. Maybe it's not as well remembered but it was a big deal at the time and made respected journalists even sit there with egg on their face
Does Joey transfer back now?
LOL
Jeff Goodman doesn't seem like a fan. Even posted his crappy Texas resume on Twitter.
Commenters don't get the Shaka hype, either.
https://twitter.com/markstrot/status/1375472089558319111?s=20
Love this by Strotman: There is some beautiful irony in the fact that a guy left Buzz's dream job to go coach Marquette.
Quote from: keefe on March 26, 2021, 11:51:12 AM
Goose,
This is a rock solid move. I couldn't be more proud of MU. This is a signature hire.
I'm with you Goose. Al is looking down smiling.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 01:30:32 PM
Jeff Goodman doesn't seem like a fan. Even posted his crappy Texas resume on Twitter.
Commenters don't get the Shaka hype, either.
Jeff Goodman always has ulterior motives.
Quote from: 1SE on March 26, 2021, 12:19:23 PM
Shaka and MU are the Ross and Rachel of college hoops
Friends is a terrible show.
Not a bad take though.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 01:30:32 PM
Jeff Goodman doesn't seem like a fan. Even posted his crappy Texas resume on Twitter.
Commenters don't get the Shaka hype, either.
Goodman not happy with the amount of loose balls Texas got in their NCAA game? NCAA in 8 of 11 years, FF, Conf Champ...I don't know who you wanted for a coach...but they didn't have that resume over the last 11 years.
Quote from: mix it up on March 26, 2021, 01:35:03 PM
https://twitter.com/markstrot/status/1375472089558319111?s=20
Love this by Strotman: There is some beautiful irony in the fact that a guy left Buzz's dream job to go coach Marquette.
Buzz is a Texas guy. Shaka is a cheesehead.
Culture and upbringing play a role. It isn't that weird.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 01:30:32 PM
Jeff Goodman doesn't seem like a fan. Even posted his crappy Texas resume on Twitter.
Commenters don't get the Shaka hype, either.
He's just pissed he was wrong. He was beating the Moser drum pretty loudly.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 26, 2021, 12:43:13 PM
He will be on the NCAAT breaks spewing all things MU and Big East this weekend.
An upset or two from our conference reps would be nice to keep the conversation focused on the BE. Plus a few extra dollars to replenish the coffers in athletics.
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 26, 2021, 12:46:56 PM
I'm pretty excited.
It would be nice if he acknowledges he contacted Justin, DJ, Greg and Dawson and says, "they're staying!"
At the introduction, I'd like to see Shaka and the players all shave their heads.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 26, 2021, 01:40:37 PM
He's just pissed he was wrong. He was beating the Moser drum pretty loudly.
1000%%. And clearly Shaka is not one of "his guys" in terms of information leaks.
BTN analyst Ben Brust and former badger weighs in:
https://twitter.com/benbrust/status/1375478625676443648?s=21
Guys on the EyeonCBB podcast (Parrish and Norlander think MU made a good hire.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 26, 2021, 02:36:53 PM
BTN analyst Ben Brust and former badger weighs in:
https://twitter.com/benbrust/status/1375478625676443648?s=21
If that is the tweet I think it is, a decent clap back would be number of current Badgers in the NBA, or just relink the Evan Flood article.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 26, 2021, 02:39:25 PM
If that is the tweet I think it is, a decent clap back would be number of current Badgers in the NBA, or just relink the Evan Flood article.
just be smart about the clap backs. Some MU fans talking trash about the Bucky program when they went to two straight final fours just a few years ago (and beat the unbeatable Kentucky). We need to stop living off 1977.
Quote from: MU82 on March 26, 2021, 12:13:48 PM
Why?
Porter Moser went 12 years without an NCAA tournament win. Did that mean he was destined to go another 12 years without an NCAA tournament win? Jay Wright went 10 years without an NCAA tournament win. Did that mean he was destined to go another 10 years without an NCAA tournament win?
Because there are so many teams.
To win all you need are a few good players and a little luck.
Why do the no names win so many golf tournament's?
Because there are so many of them.
We love stars and most famous college coaches are just stars.
Yes, the cream usually rises to the top, but not always.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 26, 2021, 02:46:36 PM
just be smart about the clap backs. Some MU fans talking trash about the Bucky program when they went to two straight final fours just a few years ago (and beat the unbeatable Kentucky). We need to stop living off 1977.
For sure, also, it usually isn't worth it since we just get shouted down since a lot of other schools have a lot more fans.
I don't respond to anyone on twitter
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 26, 2021, 01:40:37 PM
He's just pissed he was wrong. He was beating the Moser drum pretty loudly.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 26, 2021, 02:30:04 PM
1000%%. And clearly Shaka is not one of "his guys" in terms of information leaks.
Shaka Smart was the second name Goodman brought up on his podcast from last Saturday, one day after the firing of Wojo.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 26, 2021, 03:25:11 PM
Shaka Smart was the second name Goodman brought up on his podcast from last Saturday, one day after the firing of Wojo.
Then I stand corrected. Everything I heard from Goodman was focusing on Moser. But I don't listen to everything he puts out there.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 26, 2021, 02:52:24 PM
For sure, also, it usually isn't worth it since we just get shouted down since a lot of other schools have a lot more fans.
I don't respond to anyone on twitter
Yeah, I just don't get the Twitter wars with other fans. When their school is five times as big as ours, we are going to lose even if we are right.
Quote from: SERocks on March 26, 2021, 01:06:53 PM
Should stuck with Wojo then, no?
Sure, you can go with that.
I was more about that what has happened doesn't necessarily prove what will happen.
But if you want to think hiring Shaka was the exact same as keeping Wojo, it's a free world.
Quote from: MU82 on March 26, 2021, 12:13:48 PM
Why?
Porter Moser went 12 years without an NCAA tournament win. Did that mean he was destined to go another 12 years without an NCAA tournament win? Jay Wright went 10 years without an NCAA tournament win. Did that mean he was destined to go another 10 years without an NCAA tournament win?
Logic has no place here. You know that! :)
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 26, 2021, 12:36:46 PM
I'll take that bet.
I'll bankroll you if he takes you up on it.
Watched Around The Horn on ESPN. All talking heads essentially said Shaka was getting fired. They did zero research, know nothings...
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 26, 2021, 04:39:46 PM
Watched Around The Horn on ESPN. All talking heads essentially said Shaka was getting fired. They did zero research, know nothings...
Well...
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 26, 2021, 04:39:46 PM
Watched Around The Horn on ESPN. All talking heads essentially said Shaka was getting fired. They did zero research, know nothings...
I mean, he might have gotten fired. This just worked out for all parties involved.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 26, 2021, 04:49:08 PM
I mean, he might have gotten fired. This just worked out for all parties involved.
That's kind of the point I was trying to make. I wish I could find the gif that would effectively illustrate my "Well..."
No, Shaka didn't get fired. I think the athletics department at UT is very, very happy today that they didn't have to do that. But, I think they probably would have.
I agree that this might turn out to be a very rare Win-Win-Win situation.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 26, 2021, 04:49:08 PM
I mean, he might have gotten fired. This just worked out for all parties involved.
Sounds like Texas is trying fire back in the media after Shaka undercut Texas boosters and made their program look inferior. Sorry, but you got "Hooked Again" Longhorns. You're almost insufferable as Indiana fans
Trust me, UW and BE coaches are not jumping around with excitement over the hire. Their jobs just became much more difficult. Going into next season I believe we have the second best coach in the BE and top dog is awfully good. IMO, that is the perception I care the most about. MU is instantly looked at differently by their peers.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 26, 2021, 04:49:08 PM
I mean, he might have gotten fired. This just worked out for all parties involved.
The consensus seems to be that he was going to get another season, but opted against spending the year on a scorching hot seat when MU was offering him a fresh start.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2021, 04:56:42 PM
Trust me, UW and BE coaches are not jumping around with excitement over the hire. Their jobs just became much more difficult. Going into next season I believe we have the second best coach in the BE and top dog is awfully good. IMO, that is the perception I care the most about. MU is instantly looked at differently by their peers.
Perhaps. Kevin Willard doesn't get enough credit. Ewing might quickly jump. His incoming recruiting class is quite formidable and if he can get his kids to play defense consistently like they did in the conference tourney, Georgetown will be back. Regardless, MU should now be no lower than middle of the pack in the Big East from now on unless there's a significant amount of seniors or players leaving for NBA.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 26, 2021, 04:53:00 PM
That's kind of the point I was trying to make. I wish I could find the gif that would effectively illustrate my "Well..."
No, Shaka didn't get fired. I think the athletics department at UT is very, very happy today that they didn't have to do that. But, I think they probably would have.
I agree that this might turn out to be a very rare Win-Win-Win situation.
I totally get your point. My disappointment was more around the four panelists offering nothing about MU at all. Made it sound like MU isn't a decent job.
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 26, 2021, 05:07:32 PM
I totally get your point. My disappointment was more around the four panelists offering nothing about MU at all. Made it sound like MU isn't a decent job.
I looked the panel today. Shelburn and Adande are NBA writers. Cowlishaw is a football guy who has never offered anything compelling about basketball, especially college, whenever Ive seen him on. Leaving the Big12 for a smaller private school up north is a snap negative to him, without a doubt. And Blackinstone is a smart guy who I respect, but he's more of a sports culture/general sportswriter personality. None of them are plugged in and know anything.
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 26, 2021, 04:39:46 PM
Watched Around The Horn on ESPN.
Why would anyone willingly do that?
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 26, 2021, 05:07:32 PM
I totally get your point. My disappointment was more around the four panelists offering nothing about MU at all. Made it sound like MU isn't a decent job.
If it was not a good job Shaka never would take it. It is obviously a very good job. Shaka will be loaded for bear. He is getting a great opportunity at MU. This dude will work his tail off and get it done.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TimBrando/status/1375599836708343814
Brando's reaction is that of most
Hoops people and " casual " fans ...
It makes MU relevant again. No hire is perfect... and recent lack of NCAAT wins is a concern
But let's say in next ten years
Smart takes MU to 8/10 NCAAs and
A Ff ... and in a down year wins the
NIT ( as he has done in last 10 )
People will want to build a monument
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 26, 2021, 02:39:25 PM
If that is the tweet I think it is, a decent clap back would be number of current Badgers in the NBA, or just relink the Evan Flood article.
First, this immature tweet doesn't belong in a discussion of NATIONAL perception. Some worthwhile things have come out of Mundelein, IL (including an almost soup-poisoned Cardinal), but Ben Brust is proving not to be one of them.
Secondly, Shaka doesn't need bulletin board material to beat UW, but thanks nonetheless Benny.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 26, 2021, 02:38:11 PM
Guys on the EyeonCBB podcast (Parrish and Norlander think MU made a good hire.
That they had an emergency podcast for Marquette is a pretty strong statement about the perception of this hire.
Quote from: Goose on March 26, 2021, 11:44:28 AM
This hire will be well thought of nationally. MU married up today the BE should be put on notice.
Goose
100% agree. We went from bottom tier (ahead of only DePaul and maybe Butler) to top tier (behind only Wright and on a par with Hurley) in coaching ability. I was all in on Moser (still think he's an awesome coach) because I didn't think Shaka was a realistic possibility. Thrilled to find out I was wrong.
https://twitter.com/Stadium/status/1375518652938604544?s=20
Quote from: Retire0 on March 26, 2021, 11:46:45 AM
Goose
Love the enthusiasm you are putting out, it's infectious. Great to see you this way after the last couple seasons.
I agree. Love the enthusiasm Goose!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 26, 2021, 10:58:02 PM
Goose
100% agree. We went from bottom tier (ahead of only DePaul and maybe Butler) to top tier (behind only Wright and on a par with Hurley) in coaching ability. I was all in on Moser (still think he's an awesome coach) because I didn't think Shaka was a realistic possibility. Thrilled to find out I was wrong.
I was having this same thought and talking with friends. Where would we put Shaka in relation to other Big East coaches. I didn't have anyone definitively ahead of him. We thought in a tier below Wright with Hurley and McDermott
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 11:21:34 PM
https://twitter.com/Stadium/status/1375518652938604544?s=20
I think Goodman was lined up to receive a portion of Moser's new contract at MU. He's been pushing Moser hard and seems genuinely bummed he didn't get the job.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 26, 2021, 11:37:26 PM
I agree. Love the enthusiasm Goose!
I'll be honest and say Goose has me fired up since yesterday with an MU ra-ra.
When's the season start?
Perusing some of the other BE message boards there seems to be a pretty strong consensus this was a good hire for MU, Smart and the BE more generally.
FWIW, MU/Smart is still on ESPN's "Top Headlines" this morning
There's a lot going on, the fact that it has been on there since announced is an indication of how big this is
Quote from: PhillyWarrior on March 29, 2021, 07:40:42 AM
FWIW, MU/Smart is still on ESPN's "Top Headlines" this morning
There's a lot going on, the fact that it has been on there since announced is an indication of how big this is
Well at least we are getting a return on our investment in the Russian click farm.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on March 26, 2021, 11:52:00 AM
Texas fans are thrilled Shaka's gone. They didn't like him any more than MU fans liked Wojo.
Will be interesting to see who they get to replace him.
correct. Go to BurntOrangeNation. UT seems to think of MU as a mid-major and a good fit for Shaka.
Quote from: Marq3332 on March 29, 2021, 08:00:45 AM
correct. Go to BurntOrangeNation. UT seems to think of MU as a mid-major and a good fit for Shaka.
There aren't many fan bases as delusional and out of touch as Texas fans. It's one of the most toxic athletic departments in the nation.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 29, 2021, 08:02:14 AM
There aren't many fan bases as delusional and out of touch as Texas fans. It's one of the most toxic athletic departments in the nation.
Refresh my memory.....has Texas ever done anything in college hoops?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 29, 2021, 08:07:18 AM
Refresh my memory.....has Texas ever done anything in college hoops?
Went to a Final Four with this guy.
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Quote from: MuggsyB on March 29, 2021, 08:07:18 AM
Refresh my memory.....has Texas ever done anything in college hoops?
Made the Final 4 in 2003, 7 Elite 8's and 10 Sweet 16's in school history. Considered a "sleeping giant" by some. Never been close
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 29, 2021, 08:07:18 AM
Refresh my memory.....has Texas ever done anything in college hoops?
i hammered, er, educated, a bunch of Bevo's on BurntOrange. UT does have a boatload of ncaa bids. Durant was a 1-dun Longhorn. They lost to 'Cuse in the '03 FF, same year we got toasted by KU.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 29, 2021, 08:10:41 AM
Went to a Final Four with this guy.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2c_fdBX4AYTeu9.jpg)
Did he borrow Dan Gadzuric's shorts?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 29, 2021, 08:12:12 AM
Made the Final 4 in 2003, 7 Elite 8's and 10 Sweet 16's in school history. Considered a "sleeping giant" by some. Never been close
sorry Rico. We posted at the same time.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 29, 2021, 08:07:18 AM
Refresh my memory.....has Texas ever done anything in college hoops?
The previous coach(s) were more successful than Smart at Texas.
In 17 seasons, Rick Barnes made a Final Four, 2 Elite 8's, 2 Sweet 16's, won 19 NCAA Tourney games, won 3 Big 12 Titles, finished 2nd 5 times.
Shaka Smart has never won a regular season league title in 12 seasons in 3 leagues. He has made the NCAA 2nd weekend 1 time in 12 seasons as a HC, none at Texas. He didn't win any NCAA games there. His best league finish was 3rd twice in six seasons. He made the NCAA Tourney 3 times in 6 seasons at Texas. He had a losing league record there, including 3 straight seasons.
In Barnes' first 6 seasons at Texas, he won the regular season league, finished 2nd 4 times, 3rd once. He made the Final Four and Sweet 16 as well in that time.
Hopefully Smart can get Marquette back to Buzz like levels of basketball success, winning the Big East Regular Season Title, advancing to NCAA Tourney 2nd weekend 3 times, etc...within his first 5 years at MUBB. He will get a chance to do those things at MU.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 29, 2021, 08:12:12 AM
Made the Final 4 in 2003, 7 Elite 8's and 10 Sweet 16's in school history. Considered a "sleeping giant" by some. Never been close
How many of those have been recent? I'm sure UT was placed in the Mid West region in the early years of the Tournament when there were only 24 teams, where the P5 team was automatically in the sweet 16 or 32 teams where they only had to win one game. MU as an independent always had to play that first early round game.
Comments by Jay Bilas
https://247sports.com/Article/Shaka-Smart-hiring-Marquette-Golden-Eagles-Jay-Bilas-offers-reaction--163172240/
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 29, 2021, 08:57:17 AM
How many of those have been recent? I'm sure UT was placed in the Mid West region in the early years of the Tournament when there were only 24 teams, where the P5 team was automatically in the sweet 16 or 32 teams where they only had to win one game. MU as an independent always had to play that first early round game.
Almost all of them are recent. In the 1970s and 80s, they had some good competition in the old SWC with Arkansas and later on with Houston. But the SWC wasn't traditionally a very strong basketball conference. Form 1970-78, the conference champion only won two games in the entire tournament - both in the first round.
In 1979, the Sidney Moncreit lead Arkansas Razorbacks got to the Elite 8 where they lost to Larry Bird's Indiana State Sycamores by 2.
Quote from: Non-Salesperson Time-Waster on March 29, 2021, 10:10:27 AM
Almost all of them are recent. In the 1970s and 80s, they had some good competition in the old SWC with Arkansas and later on with Houston. But the SWC wasn't traditionally a very strong basketball conference. Form 1970-78, the conference champion only won two games in the entire tournament - both in the first round.
In 1979, the Sidney Moncreit lead Arkansas Razorbacks got to the Elite 8 where they lost to Larry Bird's Indiana State Sycamores by 2.
Thanks, too lazy to look it up myself and appreciate the effort.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 29, 2021, 09:20:12 AM
Comments by Jay Bilas
https://247sports.com/Article/Shaka-Smart-hiring-Marquette-Golden-Eagles-Jay-Bilas-offers-reaction--163172240/
Not only do I agree with what Bilas says, I think it's interesting he said it given that he was ALWAYS in Wojo's corner.
The national perception for the Shaka hire has been incredibly positive.
And BTW, Austin and Madison are not representative of the
national perception on this topic.
Quote from: Marq3332 on March 29, 2021, 08:00:45 AM
correct. Go to BurntOrangeNation. UT seems to think of MU as a mid-major and a good fit for Shaka.
After 7 years under Wojo, UT is right.
Thankfully, it is a situation that can be remedied.
Quote from: MU82 on March 29, 2021, 12:46:23 PM
Not only do I agree with what Bilas says, I think it's interesting he said it given that he was ALWAYS in Wojo's corner.
The national perception for the Shaka hire has been incredibly positive.
And BTW, Austin and Madison are not representative of the national perception on this topic.
The Wisconsin posters on the /r/collegebasketball subreddit were very supportive and excited about the Shaka hire, happy to have a WI native coach come back home, as well as defensive of MU as a premier college basketball coaching opportunity. It was refreshing, and unnerving, to see so much support from our brethren to the West.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 29, 2021, 01:19:29 PM
The Wisconsin posters on the /r/collegebasketball subreddit were very supportive and excited about the Shaka hire, happy to have a WI native coach come back home, as well as defensive of MU as a premier college basketball coaching opportunity. It was refreshing, and unnerving, to see so much support from our brethren to the West.
Wisconsin fans our brethren? Ewww.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 29, 2021, 01:30:39 PM
Wisconsin fans our brethren? Ewww.
They were nice once, I was nice once. I even had to replace UW-Madison before posting here. I can't imagine the camaraderie will continue.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 29, 2021, 01:19:29 PM
The Wisconsin posters on the /r/collegebasketball subreddit were very supportive and excited about the Shaka hire, happy to have a WI native coach come back home, as well as defensive of MU as a premier college basketball coaching opportunity. It was refreshing, and unnerving, to see so much support from our brethren to the West.
Glad to hear it?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 29, 2021, 01:30:39 PM
Wisconsin fans our brethren? Ewww.
better dead, than RED
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31160303/back-home-wisconsin-shaka-smart-eager-revitalize-marquette-men-hoops
Another article on ESPN regarding the hire, pretty shocking when we're getting more coverage than I4.
Just heard Dan Dakich on sports radio in Columbus OH. Was asked about Beard at Texas. Unprompted, he started and ended his answer talking about Smart, and what a great hire Marquette made. He then talked about how Texas did good with snagging Beard, but ended the interview by saying he expected Smart to do better than Neard at his new school.
Quote from: mu_eyeballs on April 01, 2021, 12:44:21 PM
Just heard Dan Dakich on sports radio in Columbus OH. Was asked about Beard at Texas. Unprompted, he started and ended his answer talking about Smart, and what a great hire Marquette made. He then talked about how Texas did good with snagging Beard, but ended the interview by saying he expected Smart to do better than Neard at his new school.
Crap. Just when I was excited about MU basketball again, this happens.
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 01, 2021, 12:50:48 PM
Crap. Just when I was excited about MU basketball again, this happens.
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Quote from: mu_eyeballs on April 01, 2021, 12:44:21 PM
Just heard Dan Dakich on sports radio in Columbus OH. Was asked about Beard at Texas. Unprompted, he started and ended his answer talking about Smart, and what a great hire Marquette made. He then talked about how Texas did good with snagging Beard, but ended the interview by saying he expected Smart to do better than Neard at his new school.
I've always loved Dakich and thought he was a very bright guy!
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If Dakich is excited, we should all be a little nervous.
Quote from: tower912 on April 01, 2021, 02:41:58 PM
If Dakich is excited, we should all be a little nervous.
That's what I was getting at with my post. ;)
I know.
Dakich was a great host at the Maui Invitational pre-event dinner last time MU was there. He can be a blowhard but knows the history of basketball and overall appreciates MU and its history.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on April 01, 2021, 03:15:11 PM
Dakich was a great host at the Maui Invitational pre-event dinner last time MU was there. He can be a blowhard but knows the history of basketball and overall appreciates MU and its history.
He was very nice and accommodating to fans at Disney too. Ratings vs. real life
Quote from: tower912 on April 01, 2021, 02:41:58 PM
If Dakich is excited, we should all be a little nervous.
I disagree.
Dakich is the ultimate jerk. Pompous, pretentious, etc.
But he knows college basketball.
He's very knowledgable. He just absolutely loves to hear himself talk.
Quote from: BLM on April 01, 2021, 06:18:30 PM
He's very knowledgable. He just absolutely loves to hear himself talk.
My read on Dakich? He was a middling player who was always overshadowed by better players at IU. Then he was a mediocre head coach despite sitting next to a legend for a decade. As a result, he has a complex that leads to him being a relentless know it all. He knows the game and the nuances of college basketball extremely well, he just is very obnoxious and needs to commandeer every broadcast to show just how knowledgeable he is. He's probably a perfectly nice guy, his broadcast and media person is just completely pompous and douchetastic
Quote from: JWags85 on April 01, 2021, 06:47:26 PM
My read on Dakich? He was a middling player who was always overshadowed by better players at IU. Then he was a mediocre head coach despite sitting next to a legend for a decade. As a result, he has a complex that leads to him being a relentless know it all. He knows the game and the nuances of college basketball extremely well, he just is very obnoxious and needs to commandeer every broadcast to show just how knowledgeable he is. He's probably a perfectly nice guy, his broadcast and media person is just completely pompous and douchetastic
I think you said the same thing that I did - you just make it sound so much better. :)
Quote from: Jockey on April 01, 2021, 03:55:54 PM
I disagree.
Dakich is the ultimate jerk. Pompous, pretentious, etc.
But he knows college basketball.
I've never met Dakich but what you describe fits Gottlieb 100% based upon my meeting with hiim. Well, maybe not the "knows college basketball part."