Wonder how they'll look in person
(http://i.imgur.com/LU2pYyX.jpg)
Pretty cool, but the pink with the team colors don't really go too well together. I wish they would've just gone with some navy blue lettering/numbers and cut out the side designs or something.
Is that this weekend?
NFW
Women's team....correct?
Ugh.
I really hope this is the women's team uniforms.
Creighton did this last year for the men, but it was a much more pleasing visual.
(http://whiteandbluereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Antoine-in-Pink.jpg)
I have no problem with support but that is ridiculous.
Having said which, it will attract attention to the MU brand.
Those are hideous looking uniforms. Yuck.
Quote from: keefe on January 23, 2014, 05:13:30 PM
I have no problem with support but that is ridiculous.
Having said which, it will attract attention to the MU brand.
I'd like a link to a story that says this is what the men are wearing.
Here's the link.
https://twitter.com/muathletics/status/426493481343647744/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/muathletics/status/426493481343647744/photo/1)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 23, 2014, 05:15:28 PM
I'd like a link to a story that says this is what the men are wearing.
https://www.facebook.com/MarquetteMensBB
Here's the link to confirm.
https://twitter.com/muathletics/status/426493481343647744/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/muathletics/status/426493481343647744/photo/1)
Wow.
Well, then I hope Buzz is wearing this
(http://groomsadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/pink.png)
Pink out?
The yellow lettering will never show up on TV, so not much good for the MU brand. Another issue that would be better if we had a real AD to manage this stuff. Let's hope our record in pink will be better than our record in baby blue.
Secret weapon against Villanova....maybe they'll let us use the smaller ball, too.
And before anyone rails on me about cancer, I've been touched by it like everyone else on this board. No one has not been touched by it in one way, shape or form.
I really really really hope we win because this will definitely get exposure. I'd rather not see highlights of "check out what Marquette men were wearing and by the way they lost"
Quote from: WarriorFan on January 23, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
The yellow lettering will never show up on TV, so not much good for the MU brand. Another issue that would be better if we had a real AD to manage this stuff. Let's hope our record in pink will be better than our record in baby blue.
I'm pretty sure that announcers will make mention that Marquette is wearing special pink uniforms for Coaches vs. Cancer and that not many men's basketball teams will be wearing all pink uniforms, so I don't think many people will be wondering, "Is that a Villinova or Marquette in pink?"
I'm also *fairly* certain that the athletic director is not in charge of uniform designs. Just a feeling I get...
And we do have an interim AD. It's not like people in the athletic department are running around doing whatever they want.
But other than that, you're right.
Is it just MU or are all teams doing this?
Paint Touches reported Jamil saying that he liked the jerseys ("they're legit") as they mean a lot to him (his mom passed away from cancer).
One in the pink and one in the stink.
To quote my wife..."Oh God that's hideous, they would have been better of with the light blues and replacing the gold with pink".
Awful. Almost as bad as nd's shamrock shakes
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 23, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
Secret weapon against Villanova....maybe they'll let us use the smaller ball, too.
I get it. Cause pink is so girly.
Of course, not so long ago (relatively speaking) pink was seen as a masculine color that should be work for boys while blue was for girly wear.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/
Seriously, it's just a uniform for one game.
Is it weird that I want one?
People should lighten up. Its one game (hopefully) and for a good cause.
The lettering and numbers annoy me.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 23, 2014, 05:46:19 PM
I get it. Cause pink is so girly.
Of course, not so long ago (relatively speaking) pink was seen as a masculine color that should be work for boys while blue was for girly wear.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/
Seriously, it's just a uniform for one game.
Thanks for citing the SMITHSONIAN while using the phrase, "not so long ago." They're ugly...try to get over your piousness
Here's the Iowa State Men's Pink Out jersey for 2014:
(http://media.kcrg.com/images/kcrg-tv9-iowa-state-pink.jpg)
Much like Creighton's.
Here's MU WOMEN'S past Pink Out Jersey:
2012(http://www.auctions.cbssports.com/images/auctions/18/Pink_31.jpg)
I made these concepts a few years ago.
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj229/marquettetitan34/1112pink.jpg)
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj229/marquettetitan34/mugray.jpg)
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 23, 2014, 05:50:56 PM
Thanks for citing the SMITHSONIAN while using the phrase, "not so long ago." They're ugly...try to get over your piousness
Lighten up, Francis.
And please keep your porn search terms to yourself.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on January 23, 2014, 05:39:30 PM
Is it just MU or are all teams doing this?
The whole ncaa's have been doing this for over 10 years now.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 23, 2014, 05:17:33 PM
Wow.
Well, then I hope Buzz is wearing this
(http://groomsadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/pink.png)
Pure '70's pimp
The font looks like the font that was on the prototype jersey we saw here a few years ago.
Joke, right?
A ribbon would have been sufficient.
It might attract attention and build MU's brand. I don't think it's worth it. Man, that uniform is hideous!
The yellow lettering and patch at the bottom of the should be navy. It would look much better.
Quote from: bradley center bat on January 23, 2014, 05:57:46 PM
The whole ncaa's have been doing this for over 10 years now.
I don't recall any men's team wearing all pink in the NCAA DI any time in the last 10 years for hoops (I know Oregon did pink helmets this year for football, but with black uniforms...looked ok). Highlights of pink, yes..but not the whole thing. Honestly, it will bring great attention to the cause. I just don't find them very tasteful looking.
Then again, I found these ridiculous.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcBFSEH2a7iGergAnksVNUUhSiX1TDRN65mIiPBNti2jRK7EYqEg)
Quote from: keefe on January 23, 2014, 05:13:30 PM
I have no problem with support but that is ridiculous.
Having said which, it will attract attention to the MU brand.
Brand??? What would that be--that the team is chicks. Oh hell why not. The chickification of football has arrived. Might as well chickify Men's Basketball. Even the USMC has lowered their physical standards for BAMs.
Wow, there are a lot of sexist people on this site...I dont think they are particular good looking uniforms but I understand the cause and have no problem with the team wearing them.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 23, 2014, 06:03:44 PM
I don't recall any men's team wearing all pink in the NCAA DI any time in the last 10 years for hoops (I know Oregon did pink helmets this year for football, but with black uniforms...looked ok). Highlights of pink, yes..but not the whole thing. Honestly, it will bring great attention to the cause. I just don't find them very tasteful looking.
Then again, I found these ridiculous.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcBFSEH2a7iGergAnksVNUUhSiX1TDRN65mIiPBNti2jRK7EYqEg)
Careful, Chicos. Keefe digs the camo.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 23, 2014, 05:47:47 PM
Is it weird that I want one?
No.
And you'll probably be able to via the Blue and Gold online auctions some time this season, and probably through next.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 23, 2014, 06:06:25 PM
Brand??? What would that be--that the team is chicks. Oh hell why not. The chickification of football has arrived. Might as well chickify Men's Basketball. Even the USMC has lowered their physical standards for BAMs.
I think they are hideous. But Marquette will generate some attention if the team wears these on Saturday. Some will embrace it and others will scorn it.
Quote from: esard2011 on January 23, 2014, 06:08:50 PM
Wow, there are a lot of sexist people on this site...I dont think they are particular good looking uniforms but I understand the cause and have no problem with the team wearing them.
It makes one sexist to not like the design, style, color of a uniform?
As a cancer survivor myself, I support all efforts to raise awareness and money. But those uniforms ........
And just think, the NCAA banned the "bumblebees". After seeing this, bring the "bees" back....... Ugh...
Quote from: bradley center bat on January 23, 2014, 05:57:46 PM
The whole ncaa's have been doing this for over 10 years now.
Yeah, just was questioning how much exposure we would get if everyone was doing it this weekend.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 23, 2014, 06:10:31 PM
No.
And you'll probably be able to via the Blue and Gold online auctions some time this season, and probably through next.
Boxing doesn't exactly pay enough to get me compeitive in those auctions. Plus they're always game worn and I'm 5'7" I'd look like a fool in a real jersey.
Quote from: jsglow on January 23, 2014, 06:16:59 PM
As a cancer survivor myself, I support all efforts to raise awareness and money. But those uniforms ........
+1
Quote from: nyg on January 23, 2014, 06:21:52 PM
And just think, the NCAA banned the "bumblebees". After seeing this, bring the "bees" back....... Ugh...
Great point. Comparatively, the "Bumble Bees" were tasteful and understated.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 23, 2014, 06:03:44 PM
I don't recall any men's team wearing all pink in the NCAA DI any time in the last 10 years for hoops (I know Oregon did pink helmets this year for football, but with black uniforms...looked ok). Highlights of pink, yes..but not the whole thing. Honestly, it will bring great attention to the cause. I just don't find them very tasteful looking.
Then again, I found these ridiculous.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcBFSEH2a7iGergAnksVNUUhSiX1TDRN65mIiPBNti2jRK7EYqEg)
Meaning coaches vs cancer weekend. It was coach's wearing sneakers.
As long as our uniforms never have sleeves, I'll be good.
Quote from: AZWarrior on January 23, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
Great point. Comparatively, the "Bumble Bees" were tasteful and understated.
but these are chic and support a cause.
Actually, my hope is that a sponsor has stepped up for T-shirts for the students. If we're taking this as seriously as it seems (no problem in my book), then filling the student's section with pink would look pretty awesome.
Quote from: bradley center bat on January 23, 2014, 07:03:03 PM
Meaning coaches vs cancer weekend. It was coach's wearing sneakers.
Gotcha, yes that has been going on for a long time....this is now the version that might have jumped the shark.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on January 23, 2014, 07:09:58 PM
As long as our uniforms never have sleeves, I'll be good.
(http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-save-the-tatas-5.png)
We've gone from "Wouldn't be nice to raise awareness for breast cancer by...."
to "Hey, I saw a couple other teams do this and..."
to "Well holy hell if we don't do a pink jersey people will think WE LIKE CANCER!"
Those jerseys are ghastly. I don't even care that they're for a good cause. They're awful on every level.
Jamil Wilson's mother died of breast cancer. Any more questions or comments?
These uniforms might just be bright enough to cause occasional blindness in Villanova defenders, thus leading to an NCAA ban, and increasing MU's NCAA lead in banned uniforms.
I think it's pretty cool. It's one f'in game. I think the shorts are cool
. Tops could be better, but I think it's a cool idea.
As long as we are going down this path.....why stop with the uniforms....lets paint the visitors locker room a matching Pink...isn't there a team that does this?
Now we've got them psyched on and off the court!
Real men wear pink. I do it frequently. Of course I've got the stones to pull it off.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 23, 2014, 07:59:59 PM
I think it's pretty cool. It's one f'in game. I think the shorts are cool
. Tops could be better, but I think it's a cool idea.
Five J's tells it like it is
I think I'll work some pink into the wardrobe Saturday for the game.
I have had close relatives with Breast Cancer. It can be a horrible disease. That being said, there are dozens of cancers that kill but only pink for breast cancer can line the pockets of Nike, the NFL, Kohl's Department Stores, etc. Sure "a portion of proceeds" but those portions are often miniscule.
Color me skeptical. Many other ways to affect cancer.
Wow...the fashion police on here are riduculous, some people need to get some perspective. It's a good cause, there is a very real personal connection to this issue for one of our players, and it is one game.
I think it's pretty cool that we do something interesting every year....you aren't going to love every special uniform that comes out.
On the jersey shown they don't have AL. Can anyone confirm if they jersey does or doesn't have one. Also, I feel it would a lot nicer with a baby blue base and pink replacing yellow on the jersey.
I have no problem with these jerseys. I'll go so far as to say that I like them.
You'd think we were 19-0 with the amount of time everyone has devoted to them on scoop
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 23, 2014, 05:43:39 PM
One in the pink and one in the stink.
Wichita State is wearing these too?
Four hours and 68 responses to an innocuous topic? People must not be too worried about the team's performance anymore. Mission accomplished.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 23, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
Boxing doesn't exactly pay enough to get me compeitive in those auctions. Plus they're always game worn and I'm 5'7" I'd look like a fool in a real jersey.
Gotcha with the moolah.
If it's affordable, luckily for you (and me) Derrick Wilson is 6'1" and Duane is 6'2".
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 23, 2014, 06:00:46 PM
The font looks like the font that was on the prototype jersey we saw here a few years ago.
This one?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAxWDE2MDA=/z/6YgAAOxyXDhSnoBG/$_58.JPG)
It's a women's jersey.
And this Pink one looks like one, too.
Meh.
It's the cause, right?
It's a f****** uniform for one damn game. "It doesn't look good", "it's pink". Who gives a rat's ass? It's for a cancer benefit. Really? There is something bigger at stake here than just a game. Money made from Saturday's game could potentially change the lives of people and help heal people who had their life wrecked by this terrible disease.
Disgraceful. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on January 23, 2014, 09:02:59 PM
It's a f****** uniform for one damn game. "It doesn't look good", "it's pink". Who gives a rat's ass? It's for a cancer benefit. Really? There is something bigger at stake here than just a game. Money made from Saturday's game could potentially change the lives of people and help heal people who had their life wrecked by this terrible disease.
Disgraceful. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Ever wonder why it's never Ovarian Cancer, never Heart Disease, never Lung Cancer?
Never underestimate the power of pink at retail.
Quote from: Gato78 on January 23, 2014, 07:52:26 PM
Jamil Wilson's mother died of breast cancer. Any more questions or comments?
Not liking pink uniforms doesn't make someone pro-cancer. You're better than that.
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on January 23, 2014, 07:51:19 PM
We've gone from "Wouldn't be nice to raise awareness for breast cancer by...."
to "Hey, I saw a couple other teams do this and..."
to "Well holy hell if we don't do a pink jersey people will think WE LIKE CANCER!"
Those jerseys are ghastly. I don't even care that they're for a good cause. They're awful on every level.
WAR ON WOMEN!!1!!1!!
Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on January 23, 2014, 09:02:59 PM
It's a f****** uniform for one damn game. "It doesn't look good", "it's pink". Who gives a rat's ass? It's for a cancer benefit. Really? There is something bigger at stake here than just a game. Money made from Saturday's game could potentially change the lives of people and help heal people who had their life wrecked by this terrible disease.
Disgraceful. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
I vote that we should help more people. After all, Breast cancer is only the 4th-most prevalent cancer in the United States. #3 is Prostate Cancer, whose color is of course, light blue.
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh, forget it. We never win anything in those jerseys.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/newscloud-production/newscloudcms/2013/03/513bba8c7fd0dc08f9004a28/photos/3360591/original.jpg?1362868909)
This is Coach Mac's third year with Creighton and they have done the pink out game each year since he's been there. Theresa McDermott (Greg's wife and Doug's mom) is a breast cancer survivor so the cause really hits home for the program.
They've really turned it into a nice deal. They do a full pink out in the arena and Pink Out shirts are donated for the first 16k people. Its looks pretty cool actually
(http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics32/800/TL/TLZWGGQLIKKWGCZ.20130202213032.JPG)
The jerseys go on auction for about 10-12 days and this years just closed the other day and they go to the American Cancer Society. First year they raised 20k, last year they raised 24k and this year it got all the way up to 48k! Doug's jersey went for 10k alone.
Its an awesome atmosphere every time its happened and that will only multiplied with GT coming to town (yes they have struggled but its a Saturday night game and this game has been circled since the schedule came out). Here's a picture of this year's jersey:
(https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgtaHR0cDovL3N0YXRpYy5vdy5seS9waG90b3Mvb3JpZ2luYWwvNG5xQ3EuanBnFMAHFIAKABYAEgA&s=A-lyF0p6sQemUJtMaZCKH6xunyT_6Gu8vgnmbM1nuGQ)
Hey guys! What's the deal with cancer!?!?!?
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/26/0226-seinfeld.jpg)
Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on January 23, 2014, 09:02:59 PM
It's a f****** uniform for one damn game. "It doesn't look good", "it's pink". Who gives a rat's ass? It's for a cancer benefit. Really? There is something bigger at stake here than just a game. Money made from Saturday's game could potentially change the lives of people and help heal people who had their life wrecked by this terrible disease.
Disgraceful. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Whoa....tough crowd....
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Cosmo_Kramer.jpg)
Quote from: Gato78 on January 23, 2014, 07:52:26 PM
Jamil Wilson's mother died of breast cancer. Any more questions or comments?
+1. Amazing what some folks gripe about. Great cause, who cares how much money it raises. It's about awareness.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 23, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
Not liking pink uniforms doesn't make someone pro-cancer. You're better than that.
+1. People can have opinions. And those opinions don't make them the devil.
Also, awareness only really helps if there's some education to go with it. Hopefully they reference some websites or other information sources during the game.
I really think you guys are asking the wrong question here. Way more important than the color, who is number 40? Can he hit a three?
Quote from: Gato78 on January 23, 2014, 07:52:26 PM
Jamil Wilson's mother died of breast cancer. Any more questions or comments?
If it helps Jamil step up and have a big game and we beat Nova, I'm cool with the pink jerseys for every game.
6 years ago I received chemo and radiation for breast cancer. I had chemo during basketball season. I didn't miss one game. MU basketball got me through chemo. It is what kept me going during the horrors of chemo. If they would have worn pink uniforms it would have been a huge uplifting moment for me. Even though I pronounced I wouldn't be wearing any pink sh**. Somehow my favorite team, my passion wearing pink would have seemed like a personal support. If it helps one woman undergoing what I did I say wonderful. For those of you who hate it, thank God you don't have cancer
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on January 23, 2014, 09:42:52 PM
Hey guys! What's the deal with cancer!?!?!?
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/02/26/0226-seinfeld.jpg)
Whoa....tough crowd....
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Cosmo_Kramer.jpg)
Word was the Seinfeld gang was spotted at Tom's Diner ("Monks") in NYC filming a reunion for a Superbowl commercial.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 23, 2014, 05:17:33 PM
Wow.
Well, then I hope Buzz is wearing this
(http://groomsadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/pink.png)
That suit is fantastic.
Those uni's are horrific.
It is just time to move on from the pink. One day a year for awareness; maybe one month a year. It loses its impact when it is every weekend. Just not special anymore.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on January 23, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
Boxing doesn't exactly pay enough to get me compeitive in those auctions. Plus they're always game worn and I'm 5'7" I'd look like a fool in a real jersey.
Everyone on this site who is not a current player (and I hope that means everyone on this site) looks like a fool in a real jersey.
Quote from: MUUWUWM on January 23, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
As long as we are going down this path.....why stop with the uniforms....lets paint the visitors locker room a matching Pink...isn't there a team that does this?
Now we've got them psyched on and off the court!
I think the visitor locker rooms at Iowa football stadium are or were pink, Hayden Fry was the instigator IIRC.
Sheriff Joe, Pima County AZ, used (still does?) to garb the inmates in pink, I believe, to keep them more docile.
Quote from: wildbill sb on January 24, 2014, 07:53:10 AM
Sheriff Joe, Pima County AZ, used (still does?) to garb the inmates in pink, I believe, to keep them more docile.
He does it to humiliate them.
It's unbelievable that people are not allowed to opine that these uniforms are ugly...and they are. We all know its (supposedly) for cancer awareness. We all know somebody who has had cancer and, unless you're blind as hell (black uniforms?) we all know they're ugly uniforms and, frankly, it's a cheesy stunt. The NFL has killed the entire "pink movement," Unless you think high school freshmen wearing pink wristbands are attuned to the horrors of
Breast cancer
They made it in to uniwatch under College Hoops News.
http://www.uni-watch.com/2014/01/24/usa-and-germany-release-bizarre-olympics-attire/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UniWatch+%28Uni+Watch%29
I don't think "woof!" is a positive first impression.
They are ugly/garish, and that is precisely why they will garner some attention, which is the point after all. I don't think they'll do much to raise awareness. Who will be watching this game that isn't aware of breast cancer? What does "raise awareness" even mean in real terms? That said, if doing this helps raise funds for cancer research and helps some people affected by cancer feel supported, then I'm all for it.
Quote from: 79Warrior on January 23, 2014, 10:07:20 PM
Great cause, who cares how much money it raises. It's about awareness.
Because most of the people who will be watching the game aren't "aware" of breast cancer.
I have dealt with cancer in my immediate family this year, and even so, I believe the whole "awareness" thing is a load of crap, no matter what cause you are talking about. It is an excuse to raise money without having to use it on anything meaningful, like research or support for victims. You can send out a letter asking for money, and if you print "Get an annual mammogram" on the back of the envelope, all of a sudden, that's not a fundraising cost, it's expenditures for "awareness".
I am with Kramer on this one. I refuse to kowtow to the ribbon bullies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iV8X8ubGCc
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 23, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
Not liking pink uniforms doesn't make someone pro-cancer. You're better than that.
Cancer, including Breast Cancer is evil and must be Destroyed=We should all dislike cancer=Pink uniforms promote breast cancer awareness=We should dislike pink uniforms
Quote from: The Lens on January 23, 2014, 08:17:07 PM
I have had close relatives with Breast Cancer. It can be a horrible disease. That being said, there are dozens of cancers that kill but only pink for breast cancer can line the pockets of Nike, the NFL, Kohl's Department Stores, etc. Sure "a portion of proceeds" but those portions are often miniscule.
Color me skeptical. Many other ways to affect cancer.
This. Maybe MU can petition to bring back the bumblebees to benefit colon cancer awareness? Kills more people annually than breast cancer and gets little to no attention.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 24, 2014, 08:01:09 AM
He does it to humiliate them.
It's unbelievable that people are not allowed to opine that these uniforms are ugly...and they are. We all know its (supposedly) for cancer awareness. We all know somebody who has had cancer and, unless you're blind as hell (black uniforms?) we all know they're ugly uniforms and, frankly, it's a cheesy stunt. The NFL has killed the entire "pink movement," Unless you think high school freshmen wearing pink wristbands are attuned to the horrors of
Breast cancer
I don't think the detractors to the pink uniforms are detractors because they're anti-cancer or anti-cause. Nobody here (presumably) is. You can get sick and tired of cancer awareness events being held everywhere you look, you can list the ill deeds of the Komen foundation, you can call out hypocrites and posers for supporting something they know nothing about, but none of that makes you pro-cancer.
Additionally, I don't think it has to do with how "ugly" the uniforms are
per se. Those 77 uniforms were something ugly. The bumblebee uniforms were ugly. Heck, I'd go so far to say that the barber pole piping on the current unis is somewhat ugly. So what... we're not the ones wearing them.
Frankly, I think the detractors are simply those who find pink emasculating or homosexual, consciously or subconsciously. There's still this "real men don't wear pink" mindset floating around society that is about as archaic as the concept that the earth is flat. I had a coworker (UW alum) think he was taking a shot at me this morning because he saw a picture of the uniforms... I'm sure he thought that I would be embarrassed by my alma mater would be wearing *gasp* pink uniforms. After telling him that they could wear Speedos for all I care as long as they beat Nova, I turned the tables and emailed him the following:
(http://www.dane101.com/files/IMG_1967.jpg)
Needless to say, he was the one who is now appalled and embarrassed, and he hasn't spoken to me for the past hour. It's been a very peaceful morning.
There is no "real men don't wear pink" segment of society. That's as antiquated as high button shoes (hat tip, Harry Caray).
Quote from: warriormom on January 23, 2014, 11:40:20 PM
6 years ago I received chemo and radiation for breast cancer. I had chemo during basketball season. I didn't miss one game. MU basketball got me through chemo. It is what kept me going during the horrors of chemo. If they would have worn pink uniforms it would have been a huge uplifting moment for me. Even though I pronounced I wouldn't be wearing any pink sh**. Somehow my favorite team, my passion wearing pink would have seemed like a personal support. If it helps one woman undergoing what I did I say wonderful. For those of you who hate it, thank God you don't have cancer
Glad you pulled through and are doing ok now. Even more awesome that MU basketball helped you get through it. I agree. If it helps one person, then its worth it. I think it also probably means A LOT to Jamil. I wouldn't be surprised if he gave us an inspired performance this Saturday wearing the pink jersey.
F*ck cancer!
Looks as if they are actually referring to it as "Suits and Sneakers" this time around which I have never actually heard before (or I just wasnt paying attention - perhaps more likely).
http://coaches.acsevents.org/site/PageServer/?pagename=CVC_FY12_Suits_Sneakers (http://coaches.acsevents.org/site/PageServer/?pagename=CVC_FY12_Suits_Sneakers)
Will this be the year that idiot Coach Crean puts his extreme vanity aside for just one day and actually wears a suit with sneakers, or will he go with the track suit/wind shirt as he has each of the past years?
Coaches and their staff are encouraged to wear sneakers with their game attire while coaching games during the weekend
Unless of course, you're Coach Crean, where only your assistants wear sneakers with their game attire, but your game attire suddenly becomes athletic apparel.
Pettiness on my part? Absolutely, but it has driven me crazy every year. Check your fricken ego for 1 day. The guy is an unbelievable pud whack.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 24, 2014, 09:25:05 AM
Looks as if they are actually referring to it as "Suits and Sneakers" this time around which I have never actually heard before (or I just wasnt paying attention - perhaps more likely).
http://coaches.acsevents.org/site/PageServer/?pagename=CVC_FY12_Suits_Sneakers (http://coaches.acsevents.org/site/PageServer/?pagename=CVC_FY12_Suits_Sneakers)
Will this be the year that idiot Coach Crean puts his extreme vanity aside for just one day and actually wears a suit with sneakers, or will he go with the track suit/wind shirt as he has each of the past years?
Coaches and their staff are encouraged to wear sneakers with their game attire while coaching games during the weekend
Crean is a pud whack. Now that I had not heard before--and an unbelievable one at that +1000
In a related matter who is a bigger pud whack, Crean or Jim Harbaugh?
Unless of course, you're Coach Crean, where only your assistants wear sneakers with their game attire, but your game attire suddenly becomes athletic apparel.
Pettiness on my part? Absolutely, but it has driven me crazy every year. Check your fricken ego for 1 day. The guy is an unbelievable pud whack.
Quote from: Benny B on January 24, 2014, 08:59:30 AM
I don't think the detractors to the pink uniforms are detractors because they're anti-cancer or anti-cause. Nobody here (presumably) is. You can get sick and tired of cancer awareness events being held everywhere you look, you can list the ill deeds of the Komen foundation, you can call out hypocrites and posers for supporting something they know nothing about, but none of that makes you pro-cancer.
Additionally, I don't think it has to do with how "ugly" the uniforms are per se. Those 77 uniforms were something ugly. The bumblebee uniforms were ugly. Heck, I'd go so far to say that the barber pole piping on the current unis is somewhat ugly. So what... we're not the ones wearing them.
Frankly, I think the detractors are simply those who find pink emasculating or homosexual, consciously or subconsciously. There's still this "real men don't wear pink" mindset floating around society that is about as archaic as the concept that the earth is flat. I had a coworker (UW alum) think he was taking a shot at me this morning because he saw a picture of the uniforms... I'm sure he thought that I would be embarrassed by my alma mater would be wearing *gasp* pink uniforms. After telling him that they could wear Speedos for all I care as long as they beat Nova, I turned the tables and emailed him the following:
(http://www.dane101.com/files/IMG_1967.jpg)
Needless to say, he was the one who is now appalled and embarrassed, and he hasn't spoken to me for the past hour. It's been a very peaceful morning.
I think this whole "people think men think pink is unmanly" concept is crap. Is there a small segment, I'm sure, there is also still a flat earth society. I don't have objections to the uniforms, I have issues. The uniform is fine, but I think it could have been executed better(baby blue with pink trim, both cancer colors). I think awareness is great, but I also have an issue with the pink campaign. I'm not pro-breast cancer, but I do think the pink campaign has the effect of "sucking the oxygen out of the room" when it comes to fundraising, especially cancer fundraising. I've had multiple family members impacted by cancer of all forms, some of their own creation, some of rare kinds, some fatal some not. The point is that there is a valid debate to be had around execution of the uniforms and the pink campaign without being anti-anything. That kind of "if your against you must be for" mentality stifles legitimate discussion.
Not necessarily directed at you Benny, just a general statment
I like the idea and thank you for posting this here, I didn't know about this until today. I think I will also wear pink in support of my mother a survivor herself.
Quote from: warriormom on January 23, 2014, 11:40:20 PM
6 years ago I received chemo and radiation for breast cancer. I had chemo during basketball season. I didn't miss one game. MU basketball got me through chemo. It is what kept me going during the horrors of chemo. If they would have worn pink uniforms it would have been a huge uplifting moment for me. Even though I pronounced I wouldn't be wearing any pink sh**. Somehow my favorite team, my passion wearing pink would have seemed like a personal support. If it helps one woman undergoing what I did I say wonderful. For those of you who hate it, thank God you don't have cancer
Thank you for sharing warriormom. Glad you managed to kick your cancer in the teeth. I think our boys would be honored to know that they helped you through that time of your life.
For those who don't believe in awareness or in raising funds, then believe in support. Wearing these uniforms is a visible show of the organizations support for those who are fighting cancer. You can dislike the uniforms all you want but at least respect the players and administration for their show of support. If we help even just one person, isn't it worth it?
I'm in the "pink is fine, cancer is bad, but why didn't Athletics consult with a fashion designer" camp. If there are none on campus, Mount Mary has plenty.
Quote from: warriormom on January 23, 2014, 11:40:20 PM
6 years ago I received chemo and radiation for breast cancer. I had chemo during basketball season. I didn't miss one game. MU basketball got me through chemo. It is what kept me going during the horrors of chemo. If they would have worn pink uniforms it would have been a huge uplifting moment for me. Even though I pronounced I wouldn't be wearing any pink sh**. Somehow my favorite team, my passion wearing pink would have seemed like a personal support. If it helps one woman undergoing what I did I say wonderful. For those of you who hate it, thank God you don't have cancer
Great post, warriormom! Prayers for your continued good health!
wearing pink shoes isn't enough?
#1 Technically, the jerseys are ugly. We all know it.
#2 Sometimes "awareness" isn't just about being "aware" (Hey, breast cancer!), but it's also about unification. Pink has become a pride thing for a lot of survivors and families of victims. It's like a flag.
#3 Even if you hate the whole idea, please understand the the jerseys are being auctioned off and raising money for research. I think we can all agree that is a good idea.
I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. If the design of the jersey was a little better would people be as upset about it?
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 24, 2014, 11:06:55 AM
I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. If the design of the jersey was a little better would people be as upset about it?
Against Cancer, mom died of uteran(sp)? cancer 23 years ago. Love you Mom.
Just sayin, Creighton has nice looking jerseys, why can't we?
As mentioned in a previous post, The yellow lettering won't show up on TV, or not as well as blue....Someone should have known that.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 24, 2014, 11:06:55 AM
I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. If the design of the jersey was a little better would people be as upset about it?
The majority in this thread just don't like the jerseys. no more, no less.
My wife is a breast cancer survivor. Her courage inspired me and our four children - she actually completed work on master's degree while undergoing treatment. Anything that raises money or awareness is OK by me, though when I hear "a portion of the profits...." It makes me wonder just what that portion is. I agree that the uniforms are hideous but isn't that the idea? Those white Creighton jerseys trimmed in pink and blue were nice, but weren't really that much of a contrast from their normal ones. If raising awareness and making a statement is the goal, I say go big or go home.
Video of Jamil and the unis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4Iu6Z0GG0&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 24, 2014, 11:06:55 AM
I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. If the design of the jersey was a little better would people be as upset about it?
This! Good cause. Nobody will dispute that. These particular MU jerseys jump the shark. The Creighton jerseys were tasteful.
Pink Melos too. Of course, F*ckin's been wearin' those for years on his Ice Mountain route.
This thread is embarrassing. The uniforms are going to help raise money for breast cancer research. And, oh by the way, a member of MU's basketball team lost his mother to breast cancer so it hits very close to home. Who cares what the actual uniforms look like? It's not a fashion show. It's a basketball game. Get some perspective, people.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 24, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
This thread is embarrassing. The uniforms are going to help raise money for breast cancer research. And, oh by the way, a member of MU's basketball team lost his mother to breast cancer so it hits very close to home. Who cares what the actual uniforms look like? It's not a fashion show. It's a basketball game. Get some perspective, people.
That's what I'm saying. Its one fricking game.
I'm shocked that 5 pages of thread and none of you get the point...our tradition is ugly/outlandish/crazy uniforms. We should never get away from that. It is our brand, our legacy, our heritage. Every time we wear something that is considered outlandish we honor our tradition. We wore tiger stripes, camo., jerseys that were designed to be untucked for goodness sakes. Our shorts in 94' even had the players FIRST names on the back of them. They just premiered a f****** movie about it! Are all you people that dense that you can't see the forest through the trees?
These uniforms are perfectly ugly. They are beautiful. We are Marquette.
P.S. This does not even mention the fact that they are for a very good cause that is far more important the any of the whining you guys do.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 24, 2014, 11:50:02 AM
This thread is embarrassing. The uniforms are going to help raise money for breast cancer research. And, oh by the way, a member of MU's basketball team lost his mother to breast cancer so it hits very close to home. Who cares what the actual uniforms look like? It's not a fashion show. It's a basketball game. Get some perspective, people.
embarrassing? someone doesn't like what the unis look like and so they're not allowed to voice an opinion on that? jeez.
Quote from: downtown85 on January 24, 2014, 11:29:35 AM
This! Good cause. Nobody will dispute that. These particular MU jerseys jump the shark. The Creighton jerseys were tasteful.
No one remembers tasteful.
Quote from: mujivitz06 on January 24, 2014, 11:56:50 AM
I'm shocked that 5 pages of thread and none of you get the point...our tradition is ugly/outlandish/crazy uniforms. We should never get away from that. It is our brand, our legacy, our heritage. Every time we wear something that is considered outlandish we honor our tradition. We wore tiger stripes, camo., jerseys that were designed to be untucked for goodness sakes. Our shorts in 94' even had the players FIRST names on the back of them. They just premiered a f****** movie about it! Are all you people that dense that you can't see the forest through the trees?
These uniforms are perfectly ugly. They are beautiful. We are Marquette.
F*cking A right! They are intentionally over the top.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
embarrassing? someone doesn't like what the unis look like and so they're not allowed to voice an opinion on that? jeez.
Yep, that's why it's embarrassing. You should bring up the right to free speech too ::)
It's embarrassing because people are openly complaining about a basketball uniform that a team will wear one time in order to raise money for cancer research and to honor the late mother of one of its players.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 24, 2014, 11:25:49 AM
Video of Jamil and the unis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4Iu6Z0GG0&feature=youtu.be
I think this is worth noting: "Buzz actually emailed me and told me. I told him 'Thanks.'"
Whatever any of us thinks about the uniforms, it's pretty clear that Jamil appreciates that we're wearing them.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
embarrassing? someone doesn't like what the unis look like and so they're not allowed to voice an opinion on that? jeez.
But we are allowed to voice our opinion about your opinion
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 24, 2014, 12:09:37 PM
It's embarrassing because people are openly complaining about a basketball uniform that a team will wear one time in order to raise money for cancer research and to honor the late mother of one of its players.
I think it's more general frustration at the proliferation of pink merchandise. We've all heard about what a sham the NFL's efforts were, and many see the whole idea as a marketing ploy and not anything substantive towards research. All while being told that anyone who thinks this is silly must love cancer and hate titties.
MU happens to be taking part in this, and is an easy target.
Quote from: hairyworthen on January 24, 2014, 12:14:18 PM
But we are allowed to voice our opinion about your opinion
Ha!
some people like them. some people don't. so what? in the end, we all know it's a good cause. we all know it is meaningful to thousands of people around the world as well right here on our own team. it's for a good cause. and isn't that the point that matters?
It would've been better if they were pink camo for the carrier classic last year.
Quote from: hairyworthen on January 24, 2014, 12:14:18 PM
But we are allowed to voice our opinion about your opinion
Well then my opinion of your opinion of my original opinion is that it sucks....I'm exhausted now ;D
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
embarrassing? someone doesn't like what the unis look like and so they're not allowed to voice an opinion on that? jeez.
Who says you aren't allowed to voice your opinion? It's posted isn't it? You seem to be confused. You are allowed to voice your opinion. Others are also allowed to voice their opinion on yours.
Quote from: mujivitz06 on January 24, 2014, 12:31:26 PM
Who says you aren't allowed to voice your opinion? It's posted isn't it? You seem to be confused. You are allowed to voice your opinion. Others are also allowed to voice their opinion on yours.
when someone says the thread is embarrassing because of their opinion, the implication is that they either shouldn't have that opinion or they shouldn't voice that opinion.
freaking out over someone's menial opinion that you don't approve of must make for a really stressful life
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
when someone says the thread is embarrassing because of their opinion, the implication is that they either shouldn't have that opinion or they shouldn't voice that opinion.
freaking out over someone's menial opinion that you don't approve of must make for a really stressful life
Aren't you freaking out about a shirt you don't approve of?
More than 5,000 children die every day because they do not have access to clean water. We are creating engineered solutions to provide routine, reliable access to clean water for the desperate poor in the developing world. Our colleagues, medical doctors and public health experts, are developing primary care programs to improve the long-term well-being of these people.
I think the uniforms are hideous. I have asked colleagues, men and women who volunteer their skills to help the poor and take time out of their lives to travel to the 3rd World, their opinion on Marquette's pink uniforms. 100% have said the pink uniforms are hideous. Does this mean we are uncaring, lacking compassion, gender biased, callous, apathetic, or indifferent?
I love the outrage of those who think that screaming about injustice from a Lazy Boy recliner wearing Ralph Lauren in a climate controlled house somehow makes them a better person. When they run out Evian they climb into the Volvo SUV and drive 8 blocks to Whole Foods. There is more to social justice and making a difference than throwing a $20 in the bucket. And there is a lot more to involvement than wearing a pink wife beater.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2006/nov/10/water.environment
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 12:45:52 PM
More than 5,000 children die every day because they do not have access to clean water. We are creating engineered solutions to provide routine, reliable access to clean water for the desperate poor in the developing world. Our colleagues, medical doctors and public health experts, are developing primary care programs to improve the long-term well-being of these people.
I think the uniforms are hideous. I have asked colleagues, men and women who volunteer their skills to help the poor and take time out of their lives to travel to the 3rd World, their opinion on Marquette's pink uniforms. 100% have said the pink uniforms are hideous. Does this mean we are uncaring, lacking compassion, gender biased, callous, apathetic, or indifferent?
I love the outrage of those who think that screaming about injustice from a Lazy Boy recliner wearing Ralph Lauren in a climate controlled house somehow makes them a better person. When they run out Evian they climb into the Volvo SUV and drive 8 blocks to Whole Foods. There is more to social justice and making a difference than throwing a $20 in the bucket. And there is a lot more to involvement than wearing a pink wife beater.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2006/nov/10/water.environment
Well said Keefe. Perspective.
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 12:45:52 PM
I love the outrage of those who think that screaming about injustice from a Lazy Boy recliner wearing Ralph Lauren in a climate controlled house somehow makes them a better person. When they run out Evian they climb into the Volvo SUV and drive 8 blocks to Whole Foods. There is more to social justice and making a difference than throwing a $20 in the bucket. And there is a lot more to involvement than wearing a pink wife beater.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2006/nov/10/water.environment
But if I "Like" this comment or "retweet" it that makes me a better person, right?
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 12:45:52 PM
More than 5,000 children die every day because they do not have access to clean water. We are creating engineered solutions to provide routine, reliable access to clean water for the desperate poor in the developing world. Our colleagues, medical doctors and public health experts, are developing primary care programs to improve the long-term well-being of these people.
I think the uniforms are hideous. I have asked colleagues, men and women who volunteer their skills to help the poor and take time out of their lives to travel to the 3rd World, their opinion on Marquette's pink uniforms. 100% have said the pink uniforms are hideous. Does this mean we are uncaring, lacking compassion, gender biased, callous, apathetic, or indifferent?
I love the outrage of those who think that screaming about injustice from a Lazy Boy recliner wearing Ralph Lauren in a climate controlled house somehow makes them a better person. When they run out Evian they climb into the Volvo SUV and drive 8 blocks to Whole Foods. There is more to social justice and making a difference than throwing a $20 in the bucket. And there is a lot more to involvement than wearing a pink wife beater.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2006/nov/10/water.environment
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs15/f/2007/101/3/7/Walter_Sobchak_by_maniac086.jpg)
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 24, 2014, 12:09:37 PM
Yep, that's why it's embarrassing. You should bring up the right to free speech too ::)
It's embarrassing because people are openly complaining about a basketball uniform that a team will wear one time in order to raise money for cancer research and to honor the late mother of one of its players.
Mustache
May I ask what selfless act you have engaged in the past decade? I don't include wearing pink or writing a check.
Have you risked your life for someone? I mean really put your mortal existence in peril to help another human being? Or spent time in the 3rd World helping the desperate poor? Living with them. Sharing their life. Living in their circumstances. Eating beans 3 times a day? Or dal bhat? Have you given of the gifts we Americans take for granted to improve the subsistence existence of the innocent?
How have you answered the Jesuit call to service?
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 12:58:46 PM
Mustache
May I ask what selfless act you have engaged in the past decade? I don't include wearing pink or writing a check.
Have you risked your life for someone? I mean really put your mortal existence in peril to help another human being? Or spent time in the 3rd World helping the desperate poor? Living with them. Sharing their life. Living in their circumstances. Eating beans 3 times a day? Or dal bhat? Have you given of the gifts we Americans take for granted to improve the subsistence existence of the innocent?
How have you answered the Jesuit call to service?
Most people don't have the financial well-being (or their Daddy's dime) to runaway from their lives and play 'activist' in Africa for a few months.
I think it is possible to be selfless without putting your mortal life in danger. I also think you can put yourself in harm's way while being selfish.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 24, 2014, 12:51:12 PM
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs15/f/2007/101/3/7/Walter_Sobchak_by_maniac086.jpg)
But what have
you done to help others?
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 12:58:46 PM
Mustache
May I ask what selfless act you have engaged in the past decade? I don't include wearing pink or writing a check.
Have you risked your life for someone? I mean really put your mortal existence in peril to help another human being? Or spent time in the 3rd World helping the desperate poor? Living with them. Sharing their life. Living in their circumstances. Eating beans 3 times a day? Or dal bhat? Have you given of the gifts we Americans take for granted to improve the subsistence existence of the innocent?
How have you answered the Jesuit call to service?
No, I didn't join the Peace Corps or the military but I have done plenty in my life to help those in need but I don't feel it necessary to boast about it.
Matthew 6:2 - "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
"Saying the obvious - that pink & "breast cancer awareness" is overdone - is frowned upon because it involves women."
- Someone
Quote from: SqueallyDRyan on January 24, 2014, 01:02:54 PM
I think it is possible to be selfless without putting your mortal life in danger. I also think you can put yourself in harm's way while being selfish.
Not keefe man.
It's his role....no his RESPONSIBILITY...to set the bar high, leap over it, make sure to tell everyone how high he jumped, and rightfully shame those who don't have the guts or the dedication to fly as high as he has.
In the immortal words of Jesus Christ at the Last Supper: "I'm going to be nailed to a cross soon to die for you sons of b*tches, and you're going to deny hanging out with me? Where's the dedication man?"
I like the part 'bout eatin' beans. See, y'all don't need those grains.
There should be a month that raises awareness for all diesases. Not just breast cancer.
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 12:58:46 PM
Mustache
May I ask what selfless act you have engaged in the past decade? I don't include wearing pink or writing a check.
Have you risked your life for someone? I mean really put your mortal existence in peril to help another human being? Or spent time in the 3rd World helping the desperate poor? Living with them. Sharing their life. Living in their circumstances. Eating beans 3 times a day? Or dal bhat? Have you given of the gifts we Americans take for granted to improve the subsistence existence of the innocent?
How have you answered the Jesuit call to service?
Keefe, the two (ways of helping) are not mutually exclusive. I spent time with orphans this summer in a country that is either third world or close to it. Their electricity only worked for a portion of the day, was wired outside the walls and had rubble from a recent building fire. Many of these children had special needs. It was a humbling and gratifying experience. However I wouldn't have been able to experience this without being provided the means from my family to take this trip, many don't have that opportunity.
However those that cannot for one reason or another still make a difference for these very orphans. The local chapter of an organization that I am involved with that is designed to raise money for helping these orphans gets the large benefit from those people who you simply say "write a check".
Are those gifts less worthy because those people only donated and didn't visit and spent time? Sure I spent time with kids, sharing baghbaghag and playing nardi with them, it gave them a smile on their face. They got new Marquette shirts. But I bet as much as they loved that, they really appreciated the new fridge for their center, the new washers and dryers, water heaters, and bedroom furniture that was donated because of the donations of many here in Wisconsin.
To say good works or only worthwhile if they are experienced firsthand is wrong I think. These methods are not mutually exclusive.
The last page of this thread is dripping with irony. Absolutely hysterical. Wow.
Ugliest uniforms ever worn on a basketball court? I'll nominate Keefe to post a visual list of candidates.
I wonder how many people are out there who are not currently aware of cancer, but will be after seeing our guys in pink.
As a man once said "From each according to his ability"
People's gifts are different. Not everyone is suited to be a soldier or an engineer. Not everyone has the financial means to go to Africa. That doesn't make their contributions any less significant. A social worker that counsels grieving families might not solve large scale social problems. But they are important agents of social justice.
Keefe, I don't know you, but it sounds like you do some pretty important stuff that helps humanity. I think that's great. But its disingenuous to suggest that those who have different gifts are sitting on their butts doing nothing to help humanity, or those that are only able to contribute in smaller ways are somehow less caring and less an embodiment of Jesuit values. Its also insulting to suggest that raising cancer awareness is somehow an unworthy cause because it pales in comparison to 5,000 children dying everyday. The world has many problems that need to be addressed. We can address them simultaneously. Its ok to focus on child literacy, even if there are still children dying of hunger. Both are problems that need solving, even if you have to eat to be able to read.
Perhaps you also recognize a Jesuit concept of "Finding God in All Things." I can find God in my job as an IT worker, or an accountant, or a fast food worker. If I do my job well, work hard, treat those around me with kindness and love, then even I am capable of finding God and helping humanity. I don't need to be superman. That is a founding principle of Ignatian spirituality.
As the Georgetown Jesuit John O'Malley SJ says... "First, you're not God. Second, this isn't heaven. Third, don't be an ass."
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 01:05:45 PM
But what have you done to help others?
I don't like the cartoon mocking veterans. All veterans are saints, as are all MU alumni.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on January 24, 2014, 01:33:28 PM
Keefe, I don't know you, but it sounds like you do some pretty important stuff that helps humanity. I think that's great. But its disingenuous to suggest that those who have different gifts are sitting on their butts doing nothing to help humanity, or those that are only able to contribute in smaller ways are somehow less caring and less an embodiment of Jesuit values. Its also insulting to suggest that raising cancer awareness is somehow an unworthy cause because it pales in comparison to 5,000 children dying everyday. The world has many problems that need to be addressed. We can address them simultaneously. Its ok to focus on child literacy, even if their are still children dying of hunger. Both are problems that need solving, even if you have to eat to be able to read.
Well said Bleuteaux.
Quote from: mujivitz06 on January 24, 2014, 01:21:04 PMI spent time with orphans this summer
Me, too. And they didn't speak a lick of English.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 24, 2014, 01:34:45 PM
I don't like the cartoon mocking veterans. All veterans are saints, as are all MU alumni.
Just for the record, I wasn't mocking veterans. I was mocking keefe for reminding me of Walter Sobchak.
This thread wasn't embarrassing...til about the sixth page
I think wearing pink uniforms is over the top. Sorry but these don't appeal to me. By the way, I am generally satisfied with how I have led my life and affected others. Regrets, yes, but I believe character is forged by the mistakes from which we learn.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 24, 2014, 01:07:13 PM
No, I didn't join the Peace Corps or the military but I have done plenty in my life to help those in need but I don't feel it necessary to boast about it.
Matthew 6:2 - "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
So the answer is no.
Other than lecturing people on how to think, that is.
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 24, 2014, 01:11:43 PM
Not keefe man.
It's his role....no his RESPONSIBILITY...to set the bar high, leap over it, make sure to tell everyone how high he jumped, and rightfully shame those who don't have the guts or the dedication to fly as high as he has.
http://media.mtvnservices.com/mgid:arc:video:southparkstudios.com:b6eaa5ed-3c8d-478a-9709-2457f460ae5e
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 24, 2014, 01:18:17 PM
I like the part 'bout eatin' beans. See, y'all don't need those grains.
I read where it takes 10 pounds of feed to produce 1 pound of beef. Beans are a more perfect source of protein in many ways.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 24, 2014, 01:59:05 PM
This thread wasn't embarrassing...til about the sixth page
What is embarrassing is people claiming some sort of moral superiority over an ineffectual marketing campaign.
Some people said they didn't like the jerseys. That is all. It is not a statement about cancer.
I love people who claim the higher moral ground and yet have no basis for that position.
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 02:46:26 PM
What is embarrassing is people claiming some any sort of moral superiority over an ineffectual marketing campaign. period
FIFY
well done TAMU
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 02:22:34 PM
So the answer is no.
Other than lecturing people on how to think, that is.
Believe whatever you want. It truly makes no difference to me. I know what I have done to make a positive difference in the lives of others and I don't feel it necessary to tell embellished stories about those instances in an attempt to impress a bunch of people on a basketball message board. Some people feel differently. To each his own.
Well, I guess it's working. First espn uni watch. Now:
http://www.barstoolsports.com/m/barstoolu/super-page/marquettes-coaches-vs-cancer-uniforms-are-pink-fire-flames/
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 02:46:26 PM
What is embarrassing is people claiming some sort of moral superiority over an ineffectual marketing campaign.
Some people said they didn't like the jerseys. That is all. It is not a statement about cancer.
I love people who claim the higher moral ground and yet have no basis for that position.
Moral superiority were your words. Some people said they didn't like the uniforms and I said get over it, it is one game for a good cause. What does that have to do with moral superiority? The only one who is showing moral superiority is you.
Everyone relax. It's not permanent, one game, good cause.
(http://dispatchesfrompangaea.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/jack-ziegler-my-philosophy-take-74-new-yorker-cartoon.jpg?w=300&h=225)
Can we wear pink bumblebees, next year?
Quote from: Gato78 on January 23, 2014, 07:52:26 PM
Jamil Wilson's mother died of breast cancer. Any more questions or comments?
My dad died of a heart attack when I was in my 20's.
I've known plenty of people who have died of cancer, or have it now. Scourge of a disease.
I don't like the jerseys.
Some seem to making this out to be more than it is. I agree that the jerseys will get people talking, will "raise awareness" (as if breast cancer doesn't have awareness), but I still don't care of them.
Cancer bad.
Pink jerseys bad.
Hopefully MU good today....first half was so so
FWIW, while they were ugly, they were not as ugly as I thought they'd be based on the picture that started this thread.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 24, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
Believe whatever you want. It truly makes no difference to me. I know what I have done to make a positive difference in the lives of others and I don't feel it necessary to tell embellished stories about those instances in an attempt to impress a bunch of people on a basketball message board. Some people feel differently. To each his own.
I lost my wife 2 years ago to breast cancer so I will refrain from saying anything about Komen other than this pink silliness does nothing to advance oncology.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 24, 2014, 09:25:05 AM
Looks as if they are actually referring to it as "Suits and Sneakers" this time around which I have never actually heard before (or I just wasnt paying attention - perhaps more likely).
http://coaches.acsevents.org/site/PageServer/?pagename=CVC_FY12_Suits_Sneakers (http://coaches.acsevents.org/site/PageServer/?pagename=CVC_FY12_Suits_Sneakers)
Will this be the year that idiot Coach Crean puts his extreme vanity aside for just one day and actually wears a suit with sneakers, or will he go with the track suit/wind shirt as he has each of the past years?
Coaches and their staff are encouraged to wear sneakers with their game attire while coaching games during the weekend
Unless of course, you're Coach Crean, where only your assistants wear sneakers with their game attire, but your game attire suddenly becomes athletic apparel.
Pettiness on my part? Absolutely, but it has driven me crazy every year. Check your fricken ego for 1 day. The guy is an unbelievable pud whack.
This guy is so pathetic. Yet again, the only coach in America (I am aware of - at best, one of very, very few), who can't be bothered to wear a suit with sneakers. His vanity knows no bounds.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 26, 2014, 04:42:56 PM
This guy is so pathetic. Yet again, the only coach in America (I am aware of - at best, one of very, very few), who can't be bothered to wear a suit with sneakers. His vanity knows no bounds.
:o
So let me again understand what the point of this is? We just spent an entire thread saying the reason we are wearing pink uniforms is to get noticed. Correct?
So then a coach (whom you don't like) wears what is not "normal" coaching fare, and wears something else....which you noticed (note the irony)...and you don't like it...despite it achieving even more of the desired effect.
Just think about it...read it again....it will sink in for you.
I didn't even know Jay Wright was even wearing tennis shoes until today when I saw the highlights on Sports Center. So who achieved the more "noticeable" uniform nonsense in this plight to draw awareness to something that has plenty of awareness already? The guy that wore sneakers and very knew even knew he was wearing or the guy that didn't and you (and certainly many others) immediately noticed (and asked why he's not wearing a suit...oh...Coaches vs Cancer)?
Maybe the mandate in the future should be coaches have to wear PINK sneakers, high tops, to truly get the message across.
I hear they won today....maybe you can start a thread about that...they usually crop up around here in other situations.
Quote from: keefe on January 24, 2014, 12:58:46 PM
Mustache
May I ask what selfless act you have engaged in the past decade? I don't include wearing pink or writing a check.
Have you risked your life for someone? I mean really put your mortal existence in peril to help another human being? Or spent time in the 3rd World helping the desperate poor? Living with them. Sharing their life. Living in their circumstances. Eating beans 3 times a day? Or dal bhat? Have you given of the gifts we Americans take for granted to improve the subsistence existence of the innocent?
How have you answered the Jesuit call to service?
Yep. Bill and Melinda Gates and their stupid foundation should be ashamed of themselves.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 24, 2014, 09:25:05 AM
Unless of course, you're Coach Crean, where only your assistants wear sneakers with their game attire, but your game attire suddenly becomes athletic apparel.
Pettiness on my part? Absolutely, but it has driven me crazy every year. Check your fricken ego for 1 day. The guy is an unbelievable pud whack.
Pettiness....off the charts.
Wrong....yup. Sure looks like the entire staff was wearing sneakers
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Be7uzISCQAAHDL0.jpg)
It would have been much better them to do this (see below...Iowa's approach), where during a game you would have to look probably 20 times to even notice they were wearing sneakers...but this would let Navin's pettiness go away. :o What's the goal Navin, to draw attention to this cancer awareness program, or to wear black sneakers with a black suit so basically no one notices but it allows you to feel ok about it?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Be2rblfCMAAyo21.jpg)
Whatever, dude. Nice try. They were calling it Suits and Sneakers Awareness Weekend. Thus all the coaches wearing, you now, suits and sneakers. Well, almost all of them. If you want to try to sell the idea that he goes with the warmup vs. the suit for any reason other than how it looks, save it. You and I both know better. Just think about it...it will sink in for you.
I don't give a rats ass if they won or lost, as you'll notice I was simply following up on a post a day or two ago, where this was as easy to predict as a sunrise. Kind of like your pompous ass riding in to his defense.
Jay Wright's shoes were so obvious that this blown up shot of them could rival the Zapruder Film for graininess.
http://www.vuhoops.com/2014/1/26/5347362/jay-wright-style-watch-marquette
Did anyone in the country know he participated....damn...what a jerk. Way to call attention to the cause Jay!! You cancer loving prick. You just didn't want to ruin your fashion sense and made it all about you!
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 26, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
Whatever, dude. Nice try. They were calling it Suits and Sneakers Awareness Weekend. Thus all the coaches wearing, you now, suits and sneakers. Well, almost all of them. If you want to try to sell the idea that he goes with the warmup vs. the suit for any reason other than how it looks, save it. You and I both know better. Just think about it...it will sink in for you.
Interesting, when I go to the website it says it is about DRAWING ATTENTION to the cause. Black sneakers with a black suit, blue sneakers with a blue suit...yes...drawing attention. ::)
Think about it, I'm sure it will sink in for you, but you'll have to let the pettiness guard down for a few seconds.
"as they unite to fight cancer
and raise funds and awareness for the American Cancer Society. Wearing sneakers is much more than a fashion statement. It's a
visual reminder that prevention is key when it comes to blocking cancer before it takes center court in our lives"
It's not a visual reminder if people don't even know you are wearing them....Jay Wright you cancer loving douche. Fran Dunphy, you cancer encouraging hate monger....etc...etc
Keefe I am sorry to hear of your loss. B Ca has claimed some friends of mine but they don't come close to what must be the pain of losing a spouse.
I was one of those who initially did not care for the idea of pink unis but the color MU wore was actually not bad on the players.
Regarding the things others have done for their fellow man , I think most of us have have done what we could given our circumstances. I for one never had the "opportunity" to live a third world existence but believe I have made a somewhat modest impact on others who share this mortal plane. I credit the Marquette experience for my awareness of the plight of others.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 26, 2014, 05:07:34 PM
Jay Wright's shoes were so obvious that this blown up shot of them could rival the Zapruder Film for graininess.
http://www.vuhoops.com/2014/1/26/5347362/jay-wright-style-watch-marquette
Did anyone in the country know he participated....damn...what a jerk. Way to call attention to the cause Jay!! You cancer loving prick. You just didn't want to ruin your fashion sense and made it all about you!
WTF are you even talking about? That picture as part of the Jay Wright Style Watch has nothing to do with anything, but clearly this struck a pretty serious nerve with you. The personal offense you take to criticism of a college basketball coach that has no impact on anything is a bit odd.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 26, 2014, 04:42:56 PM
This guy is so pathetic. Yet again, the only coach in America (I am aware of - at best, one of very, very few), who can't be bothered to wear a suit with sneakers. His vanity knows no
Can't say his tie is too long, hey? I'll give him that.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 26, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
Whatever, dude. Nice try. They were calling it Suits and Sneakers Awareness Weekend. Thus all the coaches wearing, you now, suits and sneakers. Well, almost all of them. If you want to try to sell the idea that he goes with the warmup vs. the suit for any reason other than how it looks, save it. You and I both know better. Just think about it...it will sink in for you.
I don't give a rats ass if they won or lost, as you'll notice I was simply following up on a post a day or two ago, where this was as easy to predict as a sunrise. Kind of like your pompous ass riding in to his defense.
Wow. You're a fucking attention seeking clown like that which you condemn, eh?
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on January 26, 2014, 08:49:45 PM
Wow. You're a unnatural carnal knowledgeing attention seeking clown like that which you condemn, eh?
Ummm...sure.