MU wearing special pink uniforms Saturday for Coaches vs. Cancer

[mu03eng]

But we are allowed to voice our opinion about your opinion

Well then my opinion of your opinion of my original opinion is that it sucks....I'm exhausted now 

[mujivitz06]

embarrassing? someone doesn't like what the unis look like and so they're not allowed to voice an opinion on that? jeez.

Who says you aren't allowed to voice your opinion? It's posted isn't it? You seem to be confused. You are allowed to voice your opinion. Others are also allowed to voice their opinion on yours.

[jesmu84]

Who says you aren't allowed to voice your opinion? It's posted isn't it? You seem to be confused. You are allowed to voice your opinion. Others are also allowed to voice their opinion on yours.

when someone says the thread is embarrassing because of their opinion, the implication is that they either shouldn't have that opinion or they shouldn't voice that opinion.

freaking out over someone's menial opinion that you don't approve of must make for a really stressful life

[mujivitz06]

when someone says the thread is embarrassing because of their opinion, the implication is that they either shouldn't have that opinion or they shouldn't voice that opinion.

freaking out over someone's menial opinion that you don't approve of must make for a really stressful life

Aren't you freaking out about a shirt you don't approve of?

[keefe]

More than 5,000 children die every day because they do not have access to clean water. We are creating engineered solutions to provide routine, reliable access to clean water for the desperate poor in the developing world. Our colleagues, medical doctors and public health experts, are developing primary care programs to improve the long-term well-being of these people.

I think the uniforms are hideous. I have asked colleagues, men and women who volunteer their skills to help the poor and take time out of their lives to travel to the 3rd World, their opinion on Marquette's pink uniforms. 100% have said the pink uniforms are hideous. Does this mean we are uncaring, lacking compassion, gender biased, callous, apathetic, or indifferent?

I love the outrage of those who think that screaming about injustice from a Lazy Boy recliner wearing Ralph Lauren in a climate controlled house somehow makes them a better person. When they run out Evian they climb into the Volvo SUV and drive 8 blocks to Whole Foods. There is more to social justice and making a difference than throwing a $20 in the bucket. And there is a lot more to involvement than wearing a pink wife beater.


http://www.theguardian.com/business/2006/nov/10/water.environment

[jesmu84]

More than 5,000 children die every day because they do not have access to clean water. We are creating engineered solutions to provide routine, reliable access to clean water for the desperate poor in the developing world. Our colleagues, medical doctors and public health experts, are developing primary care programs to improve the long-term well-being of these people.

I think the uniforms are hideous. I have asked colleagues, men and women who volunteer their skills to help the poor and take time out of their lives to travel to the 3rd World, their opinion on Marquette's pink uniforms. 100% have said the pink uniforms are hideous. Does this mean we are uncaring, lacking compassion, gender biased, callous, apathetic, or indifferent?

I love the outrage of those who think that screaming about injustice from a Lazy Boy recliner wearing Ralph Lauren in a climate controlled house somehow makes them a better person. When they run out Evian they climb into the Volvo SUV and drive 8 blocks to Whole Foods. There is more to social justice and making a difference than throwing a $20 in the bucket. And there is a lot more to involvement than wearing a pink wife beater.


http://www.theguardian.com/business/2006/nov/10/water.environment

Well said Keefe. Perspective.

[Aughnanure]

I love the outrage of those who think that screaming about injustice from a Lazy Boy recliner wearing Ralph Lauren in a climate controlled house somehow makes them a better person. When they run out Evian they climb into the Volvo SUV and drive 8 blocks to Whole Foods. There is more to social justice and making a difference than throwing a $20 in the bucket. And there is a lot more to involvement than wearing a pink wife beater.


http://www.theguardian.com/business/2006/nov/10/water.environment

But if I "Like" this comment or "retweet" it that makes me a better person, right?

[MerrittsMustache]

More than 5,000 children die every day because they do not have access to clean water. We are creating engineered solutions to provide routine, reliable access to clean water for the desperate poor in the developing world. Our colleagues, medical doctors and public health experts, are developing primary care programs to improve the long-term well-being of these people.

I think the uniforms are hideous. I have asked colleagues, men and women who volunteer their skills to help the poor and take time out of their lives to travel to the 3rd World, their opinion on Marquette's pink uniforms. 100% have said the pink uniforms are hideous. Does this mean we are uncaring, lacking compassion, gender biased, callous, apathetic, or indifferent?

I love the outrage of those who think that screaming about injustice from a Lazy Boy recliner wearing Ralph Lauren in a climate controlled house somehow makes them a better person. When they run out Evian they climb into the Volvo SUV and drive 8 blocks to Whole Foods. There is more to social justice and making a difference than throwing a $20 in the bucket. And there is a lot more to involvement than wearing a pink wife beater.


http://www.theguardian.com/business/2006/nov/10/water.environment

[keefe]

Yep, that's why it's embarrassing. You should bring up the right to free speech too  

It's embarrassing because people are openly complaining about a basketball uniform that a team will wear one time in order to raise money for cancer research and to honor the late mother of one of its players.

Mustache

May I ask what selfless act you have engaged in the past decade? I don't include wearing pink or writing a check.

Have you risked your life for someone? I mean really put your mortal existence in peril to help another human being? Or spent time in the 3rd World helping the desperate poor? Living with them. Sharing their life. Living in their circumstances. Eating beans 3 times a day? Or dal bhat? Have you given of the gifts we Americans take for granted to improve the subsistence existence of the innocent?  

How have you answered the Jesuit call to service?

[Aughnanure]

Mustache

May I ask what selfless act you have engaged in the past decade? I don't include wearing pink or writing a check.

Have you risked your life for someone? I mean really put your mortal existence in peril to help another human being? Or spent time in the 3rd World helping the desperate poor? Living with them. Sharing their life. Living in their circumstances. Eating beans 3 times a day? Or dal bhat? Have you given of the gifts we Americans take for granted to improve the subsistence existence of the innocent?  

How have you answered the Jesuit call to service?

Most people don't have the financial well-being (or their Daddy's dime) to runaway from their lives and play 'activist' in Africa for a few months.

[SqueallyDRyan]

I think it is possible to be selfless without putting your mortal life in danger. I also think you can put yourself in harm's way while being selfish. 

[keefe]

But what have you done to help others?

[MerrittsMustache]

Mustache

May I ask what selfless act you have engaged in the past decade? I don't include wearing pink or writing a check.

Have you risked your life for someone? I mean really put your mortal existence in peril to help another human being? Or spent time in the 3rd World helping the desperate poor? Living with them. Sharing their life. Living in their circumstances. Eating beans 3 times a day? Or dal bhat? Have you given of the gifts we Americans take for granted to improve the subsistence existence of the innocent?  

How have you answered the Jesuit call to service?

No, I didn't join the Peace Corps or the military but I have done plenty in my life to help those in need but I don't feel it necessary to boast about it.

Matthew 6:2 - "So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."

[Jay Bee]

"Saying the obvious - that pink & "breast cancer awareness" is overdone - is frowned upon because it involves women."

- Someone

[GGGG]

I think it is possible to be selfless without putting your mortal life in danger. I also think you can put yourself in harm's way while being selfish.  

Not keefe man.

It's his role....no his RESPONSIBILITY...to set the bar high, leap over it, make sure to tell everyone how high he jumped, and rightfully shame those who don't have the guts or the dedication to fly as high as he has.

In the immortal words of Jesus Christ at the Last Supper: "I'm going to be nailed to a cross soon to die for you sons of b*tches, and you're going to deny hanging out with me?  Where's the dedication man?"

[4everwarriors]

I like the part 'bout eatin' beans. See, y'all don't need those grains.

[TallTitan34]

There should be a month that raises awareness for all diesases.  Not just breast cancer.

[mujivitz06]

Mustache

May I ask what selfless act you have engaged in the past decade? I don't include wearing pink or writing a check.

Have you risked your life for someone? I mean really put your mortal existence in peril to help another human being? Or spent time in the 3rd World helping the desperate poor? Living with them. Sharing their life. Living in their circumstances. Eating beans 3 times a day? Or dal bhat? Have you given of the gifts we Americans take for granted to improve the subsistence existence of the innocent?  

How have you answered the Jesuit call to service?

Keefe, the two (ways of helping) are not mutually exclusive. I spent time with orphans this summer in a country that is either third world or close to it. Their electricity only worked for a portion of the day, was wired outside the walls and had rubble from a recent building fire. Many of these children had special needs. It was a humbling and gratifying experience. However I wouldn't have been able to experience this without being provided the means from my family to take this trip, many don't have that opportunity.

However those that cannot for one reason or another still make a difference for these very orphans. The local chapter of an organization that I am involved with that is designed to raise money for helping these orphans gets the large benefit from those people who you simply say "write a check".

Are those gifts less worthy because those people only donated and didn't visit and spent time? Sure I spent time with kids, sharing baghbaghag and playing nardi with them, it gave them a smile on their face. They got new Marquette shirts. But I bet as much as they loved that, they really appreciated the new fridge for their center, the new washers and dryers, water heaters, and bedroom furniture that was donated because of the donations of many here in Wisconsin.

To say good works or only worthwhile if they are experienced firsthand is wrong I think. These methods are not mutually exclusive.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

The last page of this thread is dripping with irony. Absolutely hysterical.  Wow.

[frozena pizza]

Ugliest uniforms ever worn on a basketball court?  I'll nominate Keefe to post a visual list of candidates.

I wonder how many people are out there who are not currently aware of cancer, but will be after seeing our guys in pink.

[Coleman]

As a man once said "From each according to his ability"

People's gifts are different. Not everyone is suited to be a soldier or an engineer. Not everyone has the financial means to go to Africa. That doesn't make their contributions any less significant. A social worker that counsels grieving families might not solve large scale social problems. But they are important agents of social justice.

Keefe, I don't know you, but it sounds like you do some pretty important stuff that helps humanity. I think that's great. But its disingenuous to suggest that those who have different gifts are sitting on their butts doing nothing to help humanity, or those that are only able to contribute in smaller ways are somehow less caring and less an embodiment of Jesuit values. Its also insulting to suggest that raising cancer awareness is somehow an unworthy cause because it pales in comparison to 5,000 children dying everyday. The world has many problems that need to be addressed. We can address them simultaneously. Its ok to focus on child literacy, even if there are still children dying of hunger. Both are problems that need solving, even if you have to eat to be able to read.

Perhaps you also recognize a Jesuit concept of "Finding God in All Things." I can find God in my job as an IT worker, or an accountant, or a fast food worker. If I do my job well, work hard, treat those around me with kindness and love, then even I am capable of finding God and helping humanity. I don't need to be superman. That is a founding principle of Ignatian spirituality.

As the Georgetown Jesuit John O'Malley SJ says... "First, you're not God. Second, this isn't heaven. Third, don't be an ass."

[willie warrior]

But what have you done to help others?

I don't like the cartoon mocking veterans. All veterans are saints, as are all MU alumni.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Keefe, I don't know you, but it sounds like you do some pretty important stuff that helps humanity. I think that's great. But its disingenuous to suggest that those who have different gifts are sitting on their butts doing nothing to help humanity, or those that are only able to contribute in smaller ways are somehow less caring and less an embodiment of Jesuit values. Its also insulting to suggest that raising cancer awareness is somehow an unworthy cause because it pales in comparison to 5,000 children dying everyday. The world has many problems that need to be addressed. We can address them simultaneously. Its ok to focus on child literacy, even if their are still children dying of hunger. Both are problems that need solving, even if you have to eat to be able to read.

Well said Bleuteaux.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I spent time with orphans this summer

Me, too. And they didn't speak a lick of English.

[MerrittsMustache]

I don't like the cartoon mocking veterans. All veterans are saints, as are all MU alumni.

Just for the record, I wasn't mocking veterans. I was mocking keefe for reminding me of Walter Sobchak.