Scholarship table
1. Isn't this the case 99 percent of the time?2. False choice fallacy.3. Time allotted to them = years of NCAA eligibility = dumb logic.The time allotted to Jae is the rest of his life.
Is Jae worse off because he hasn't gotten his degree?? Nope, not one bit. sIs MU as a University worse off because he didn't?? Not one single bit. No harm, no foul. Jae is a great representative of the University and in fact, I'd wager MU has benefited from his fame.
Then let’s stop the facade that we want kids to earn degrees or at least make progress toward them in the hope of graduating within the APR mandated time period since it doesn’t matter apparently. Sure we benefit from guys in the NBA and the publicity that comes with it. The university has also benefited from all kinds of graduates, too. That isn’t the point. MU made the appropriate change for a reason....they remembered we were an institution of higher learning first and had an athletic program / basketball program that serves at the discretion of the university, not the other way around.
Then they took Henry and Wally Ellenson. Those two embodied the quote from Cardale Jones as he famously said, “We ain’t come here to play school.”
Then let’s stop the facade that we want kids to earn degrees or at least make progress toward them in the hope of graduating within the APR mandated time period since it doesn’t matter apparently.
Then they took Henry and Wally Ellenson. Those two embodied the quote from Cardale Jones as he famously said, “We ain’t come here to play school.” Are all Juco players bad? Absolutely not. Are all players out of high school angels? Absolutely not. The fact the administration is forcing athletics to eliminate evaluations and going after juco talent is wrong and goes against the universities mission.
But wally graduated. Dumb argument.
Wally earned a degree from Marquette.
And he did everything he possibly could to not accomplish that. Rereading the previous posts, I may have slightly misinterpreted the discussion. However my point is that Wally “earned” a degree as a non Juco kid while he had to be begged to go to class and barely passed his cherry picked curriculum to succeed. Henry leaves campus the day after the season ends with no intention of completing any remaining school work. Knowing all of this and maintaining Jucos are inherently toxic is wrong.
And he did everything he possibly could to not accomplish that.
Lol...what? That makes no sense.
Has that been said by anyone here? By the admin or AD's office at MU?
Wally ain’t come to Marquette to play school...
Not overtly but when was the last time we’ve been involved with a Juco?
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
As did Cardale from OSU.
But doesn't that affect APR?
Last spring Wojo and co was scouting a couple.There is no ban on recruiting JUCOs, that is a myth. The reason we haven't seen many JUCOs is because there are very few JUCOs that are good enough at basketball to earn a scholarship at the Big East level.
Then things have seriously changed in a short period of time.
Our supposed mission is to educate people with the purpose of getting a degree or at least the opportunity to get it if they put the work in. We have often been above what the NCAA’s bar of requirements have been, and that is a good thing. The idea of renting someone that has no chance at that opportunity whether in the immediate timeframe while playing or years later if they comeback to finish that degree is squirmy at best. I expect that from some schools. We have taken / recruited all kinds of kids to MU over the year with one ABSOLUTE guarantee...you do the work, pass your classes you can earn a degree from MU. When that is made impossible, that is plain wrong. Are we a university or something else?
Maybe?So can kids leaving early for the pros. Better not recruit anyone with that kind of potential.So can transfers. Better not recruit anyone who might transfer.
1. Sure2. Based on the actions of Marquette & the responses in here, clearly not.3. Time is allotted by APR. You can say the rules are dumb & I won't disagree, but that doesn't poof them out of existence.I love Jae. He was a great player and represents Marquette well. I embrace him as an alum. But the NCAA created a system that rewards players who are able to get on a graduation track during their scholarship time. Schools have been punished and given postseason bans because of APR. Marquette decided to make that a priority.JUCOs are welcome as long as they are academically on track and have the skills to play at this level. As TAMU notes, those guys are rare. That's why Marquette worked so hard with Jameel McKay and why they have continued to occasionally recruit JUCOs like Darrall Willis.