Oso planning to go pro
i don't feel i have necessarily made or come to conclusion yet
doesn't negate the fact that bennett did not follow police orders.
one has to obey the cops orders. bennett did not. he ended up eating concrete, now he is trying to blame the cops for his stupidity.
michael bennet did not heed their orders, hid behind a gaming machine, then tried to run.
A sergeant had his/her body camera on and they captured that video. Two Hispanic officers that tackled Bennett did not have their body cameras on.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/09/browns_players_run_out_of_tunn.ampThis is how change starts. Kneeling during a National Anthem? Feel free, but it's not going to change anything.
The one time I root for the Bears ... and they choke like dogs.
Only if you think things have gotten worse only because of Kaepernick's protest.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
That Sunday night game was utterly boring.
Except this likely would have never happened if several Browns players didn't kneel during the anthem together.I have never seen a successful civil rights movement that didn't get worse before it got better.
I'm thinking that there were a number of things that were more influential in causing things to get worse before they got better (which we don't know if they will but hopefully this is a first step) ahead of a football player taking the attention away from the National Anthem and putting it on himself. Collin Kaepernick's taking a knee or the presidential election and everything our president has done in office, plus the response to that. I'm thinking it's the ladder much more so than the former.
You can try to spin this any way you like, but without Kaepernick, yesterday's demonstration doesn't happen. Protests almost always piss the people in power off before it leads to positive change. This one is likely no different. We'll see how much changes but even a skeptic like you seems to think this is going to work!
Always fun seeing a white person telling black person how to protest against racism properly.
No, not telling them how to, that would at least be instructive. This is just saying what they are doing isn't the right way. "I dont know how you should do it instead, just dont do that".
Why is the officers' ethnicity rrelevant to whether they adhered to policy?
The union’s letter, authored by Detective Steve Grammas, claims police had “reasonable suspicion” to detain Bennett while they determined if he was a suspect. It concludes that Bennett’s claims that the officers, which the department has said are each Hispanic, are racist is “false and offensive to the men and women of law enforcement” and says the union is happy to meet with Goodell.
I'm hard pressed to remember with few exceptions (Utah nurse, etc), where posts here about police aren't about ethnicity, race. That is why people post them, to bring up some type of awareness or plight. Do you disagree?This is about Michael Bennett in Vegas, right? He said he is protesting the treatment of minorities by law enforcement after being "a black man in the wrong place." That is a charge of racism, right? The fact the two police that tackled him are also minorities is not relevant? If the officers were African American, how does this story go? How about if the officers were caucasian? Of course it is relevant because the entire premise of the argument people are making is a racist charge.
The ability to read helps.
I don't know that anything needs to be spun. Kneeling for the National Anthem accomplishes absolutely nothing other than taking the spotlight off of the National Anthem and putting it on a single individual. It's not creating some cultural change.I've said it all along, kneeling will do nothing at all. Get involved in the community and in the conversation as to how to fix the things that you believe need to be changed. Use your platform as a professional athlete to have your voice heard. If you want change, go out and vote. Don't kneel for the National Anthem because of the injustices you face and then refuse to vote.Good move by the Browns. They see a need to change so they're willing to step up and engage in conversation with people that can help make those changes.
I can read. But continue being a condescending know-it-all. You've just suggested nothing different than what people have said to do for years. As mentioned before, the media hasn't acknowledged the myriad of good things Kap did in the community. And the teams/league certainly aren't going to give a player a soapbox to expressive controversial views. Ive already said I agree with you that him refusing to vote cheapens his message, but otherwise.And you deeming something ineffective in under a year when its seeking to bring about larger scale, macro change is wildly premature. There's a conversation, other players are invested, the actions at the beginning of the Browns game was great. None of this happens quickly or easily. Desegregation didn't happen in 6 months.
Will Lacy still be on the Seahawks this week?
I was thinking the same thing. He looked awful. But so does their O line.
But it did. Kaepernick kneeled, which led to the Browns kneeling, which led to the demonstration that we saw yesterday. The third event doesn't happen without the first one.
Does this happen without Kaepernick's protest? I don't think so.