NFC North / NFL Thread 2017-18

[brewcity77]

NM

[brewcity77]

Got it, so you are appalled when one group protests something (exercising their rights) but are a staunch advocate when another group protests something (exercising their rights). You can disagree with the police all you want (you exercising your right), but they are exercising their rights just as much as the NFL players are. Should the peaceful counter-protestors against Trump protestors not be allowed to counter-protest because they are trying to stop someone's rights by not letting them be heard?

They are protesting THE CONSTITUTION. Yes, it is within their rights, but why would you protest the exercise of the rights that make us free in the first place. Why don't we all protest the Constitution so we can abolish it and just become slaves to the country. Let's use the rights we are given to protest against the rights we are given! That's the route this administration wants anyway. Running a dictatorship is so much easier.

[rocket surgeon]

Interesting that you stress how Michael Bennett has a BIG BIG responsibility to tell the truth, yet don't demand the same of the police officer, who've already thrown their credibility into question by conveniently "forgetting" to turn on their body cams during the encounter.

What's less interesting, and certainly not surprising, is that you take the police union's account of these events as Gospel.

yes, it is interesting and yes michael bennett has a "big big" responsibility here-no?  do you disagree with that? will more cops be shot because of michael bennett's actions?  if so, indirectly or directly, hell of a price to pay for trying to do your job of protecting the public.  if more shots ring out, if michael bennett(not him personally) was the person with the gun and he runs out and shoots more innocent people, who gets blamed then?  to many "what ifs" here that could have gone very badly.  bennett has got to chill and take his medicine

how do you know that he forgot to turn on his body cam?  police and credibility?  no surprise-another broad brush  

one has to obey the cops orders.  bennett did not.  he ended up eating concrete,  now he is trying to blame the cops for his stupidity. 

[Jockey]

Interesting that you stress how Michael Bennett has a BIG BIG responsibility to tell the truth, yet don't demand the same of the police officer, who've already thrown their credibility into question by conveniently "forgetting" to turn on their body cams during the encounter.

What's less interesting, and certainly not surprising, is that you take the police union's account of these events as Gospel.

It's not really very interesting. Bennett is a black man. It is HIS responsibility to be truthful.

The "very fine people" in the nazi party and white supremacist movement would tell you that if you just ask.

It's never pretty when someone here on Scoop goes full bore racist..... but it's not the 1st time we've seen it.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I 'obeyed' every cops orders and still got thrown onto the hood of a police car, despite the fact I wasnt even the person they were looking for... Couldnt even imagine if I were a black man in that situation.

[GGGG]

yes, it is interesting and yes michael bennett has a "big big" responsibility here-no?  do you disagree with that? will more cops be shot because of michael bennett's actions?  if so, indirectly or directly, hell of a price to pay for trying to do your job of protecting the public.  if more shots ring out, if michael bennett(not him personally) was the person with the gun and he runs out and shoots more innocent people, who gets blamed then?  to many "what ifs" here that could have gone very badly.  bennett has got to chill and take his medicine

how do you know that he forgot to turn on his body cam?  police and credibility?  no surprise-another broad brush  

one has to obey the cops orders.  bennett did not.  he ended up eating concrete,  now he is trying to blame the cops for his stupidity. 

Why are you so quick to believe the police version of events?

[Pakuni]

how do you know that he forgot to turn on his body cam?  police and credibility?  no surprise-another broad brush  

Rocket ... you'd do better around here if you bothered to learn the facts before posting.
Las Vegas police officers are required to activate their mandatory body cameras when responding to a call involving contact with citizens or taking any action to detain a citizen. This is fact.
The police officers who detained Michael Bennett did not activate their body cameras. This also is fact.
In my mind, when police officers choose to conduct a detention or citizen interaction in a manner that violates their department policy, their actions and credibility deserve scrutiny.
Let's be clear here: Michael Bennett did nothing illegal or wrong. The officers, at best, were guilty of negligence.
I have no idea whether Bennett was a victim of racial profiling. But he likely was a victim of implicit bias, and definitely a victim of bad police work.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Said it 3 years ago, will say it over and over again until he finally gets cut.

Kevin White is utter trash. What a complete waste of a draft pick.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

They bloody had it...

[wadesworld]

They bloody had it...

That would've been awesome. But, alas, it's still the Bears.

[Jay Bee]

Bears Down

[wadesworld]

Ben Rothlisberger now the winningest quarterback in FirstEnergy Stadium history. He's 22-2 against the Brownies in his career.

[jesmu84]

How are the Packers fans feeling about their own Bennett raising his fist in protest during the anthem?

[wadesworld]

New year, same Mac. Literally can't get the ball back but we'll give them 2 free timeouts. Because even if we could get the ball back our O is rolling so totally worth it. He does this every game and every game we give up points when the opponent is trying to simply take it to halftime. God awful.

[MerrittsMustache]

Said it 3 years ago, will say it over and over again until he finally gets cut.

Kevin White is utter trash. What a complete waste of a draft pick.

You can start saving your breath. Word is that he broke his collarbone and needs season-ending surgery (likely ending his Bears career).

That Beasley guy who was picked right after him looks like he could be decent player though...

[GB Warrior]

How are the Packers fans feeling about their own Bennett raising his fist in protest during the anthem?

Good for him. It hit awfully close to home for him.

[B. McBannerson]

Rocket ... you'd do better around here if you bothered to learn the facts before posting.
Las Vegas police officers are required to activate their mandatory body cameras when responding to a call involving contact with citizens or taking any action to detain a citizen. This is fact.
The police officers who detained Michael Bennett did not activate their body cameras. This also is fact.
In my mind, when police officers choose to conduct a detention or citizen interaction in a manner that violates their department policy, their actions and credibility deserve scrutiny.
Let's be clear here: Michael Bennett did nothing illegal or wrong. The officers, at best, were guilty of negligence.
I have no idea whether Bennett was a victim of racial profiling. But he likely was a victim of implicit bias, and definitely a victim of bad police work.

A sergeant had his/her body camera on and they captured that video.  Two Hispanic officers that tackled Bennett did not have their body cameras on.

[MU82]

They bloody had it...

The one time I root for the Bears ... and they choke like dogs.

Go Panthers!

[wadesworld]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/09/browns_players_run_out_of_tunn.amp

This is how change starts. Kneeling during a National Anthem? Feel free, but it's not going to change anything.

[rocket surgeon]

A sergeant had his/her body camera on and they captured that video.  Two Hispanic officers that tackled Bennett did not have their body cameras on.

"McMahill said police have 126 videos connected to the incident — including other body camera and security footage — that investigators are reviewing.

  why the officer most closely associated with the altercation did not have his body cam on is a separate issue.  what happened is well recorded and doesn't negate the fact that bennett did not follow police orders.  the non-activated body cam issue should be dealt with separately. 

[cheebs09]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/09/browns_players_run_out_of_tunn.amp

This is how change starts. Kneeling during a National Anthem? Feel free, but it's not going to change anything.

Does this happen without Kaepernick's protest? I don't think so.

[GGGG]

"McMahill said police have 126 videos connected to the incident — including other body camera and security footage — that investigators are reviewing.

  why the officer most closely associated with the altercation did not have his body cam on is a separate issue.  what happened is well recorded and doesn't negate the fact that bennett did not follow police orders.  the non-activated body cam issue should be dealt with separately. 

How can you make a conclusion about his actions when they are still reviewing evidence?

[rocket surgeon]

Good for him. It hit awfully close to home for him.

what hit awfully close to home?  so if i feel i get mistreated by authorities, i can go to my office and raise my fist for a couple of minutes?

   life lesson-listen to the police.  if you are being "wronged", listen even harder because not much good is going to come out of the contrary.  leave the d.a., your attorney and public opinion to sort out the issues later as you have a better chance of being upright, breathing and taking in solids that way as opposed to digging in deeper

[wadesworld]

Does this happen without Kaepernick's protest? I don't think so.

Only if you think things have gotten worse only because of Kaepernick's protest.

[rocket surgeon]

How can you make a conclusion about his actions when they are still reviewing evidence?

  "Sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ Sports ... when cops responded to the club for a possible shooting, they ordered everyone to get down and not move so they could properly search and investigate. We're told Bennett did not stay put — instead, he ran — and a cop outside the club stopped him and ordered him down to the ground at gunpoint. Our sources say Bennett was detained until cops could determine he was not involved in any possible criminal activity ... and he was released."

  i don't feel i have necessarily made or come to conclusion yet