Oso planning to go pro
Not the right time? The historic statues will be gone of we don't stop the nonsense NOW!
Actually, I think it is just the statues of the guys that killed American soldiers that people want to get rid of. Like the guy who swore an oath to defend the country and the Constitution while at West Point, but then decided he'd rather lead an effort to destroy the country he swore to defend. Move the traitors to a museum or melt them down.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
Agreed. Really good book.
Probably to the surprise of many here I actually support the statue staying up. I think its important to acknowledge the sins of our past and have them out in the open so we can learn from them. My American history classes were criminally whitewashed up until my junior year of high school. I was fortunate enough to have a teacher who included lessons on such atrocities as the "reeducation" of Native Americans, Japanese Internment, and the Annexation of Hawaii.Now I do think the plaque with the statue needs to be one that educates on the past, not praises a traitor. I also agree that the park needed to be renamed. You only name parks after people you want to honor.
If you don't want to repeat the mistakes of slavery, then make statues memorializing slaves. Not ones glorifying traitors.
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I honestly didn't realize they still make $2 bills. Can't recall the last time I saw one....
People should consider the fact that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were not slaveholders. And one cannot discount the fact that state's rights was the predominate issue at play.Our country was an imperfect union from the start - John Adams made significant moral compromises to effect the sole goal of independence from Great Britain. The history of America through the election of Lincoln hinged on the central question of federal versus state authority. Were confederate soldiers traitors? Some might judge them as such but I do believe they fought for their conception of what the American Republic was supposed to be. And no less an authority than Lincoln said we were obliged to welcome them back as the American brothers they always were.People want to eradicate Robert E. Lee from the pages of history but had Virginia not seceded he would have commanded the Union Army. His loyalty, as was the loyalty of almost every American in the antebellum period, was not to the Republic but to their community then state. Lee was a brilliant field commander whose campaigns are still studied in America's War Colleges (of which I am a graduate.) He served his nation and then his state. We should cherish his greatness while understanding his faults.
Interesting dilemma: Leave to crumble or restore to remember? We cannot forget history or we will repeat it. Go to Rome and blow up the ancient cities? The Roman Empire were not good people either...less so than the Conderates, in fact. Loonies will always take things to the fringe...with or without statues. Do you honestly believe those statues "glorify traitors" to 98% of the USA, or are reminders of the worst war in our history, one that is still being fought today?http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nuremberg-germanys-dilemma-over-the-nazis-field-of-dreams-a6793276.html
Agree totally, Crash. Those who want to judge people from 150, 250 or 2000 years ago without context sadden me. Their moral high horses are unwarranted, IMHO.
"Judging without context?" They were judged AT THE TIME. And lost a war because of it.
Already in there, brother