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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on June 30, 2017, 05:26:47 AM
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NM
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I posted something and changed my mind 30 seconds later.
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I was going to remove this thread, but I think it's going places.
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I was going to remove this thread, but I think it's going places.
I agree with this covfefe.
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In before the lock.
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NM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23kFiqFiOlA
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I hear New Mexico is a lovely place to visit.
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I agree with this covfefe.
Winner
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An Even playing Field for all Posters.
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New Mexico? Great another Dawson thread
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I thought we had a new non-conference opponent revealed. Pity. :D
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Hoo farted, hey?
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How long until the bickering starts
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Obligatory Nazi reference to fulfill Godwin's Law.
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NM
You kidding me, we are going to the NIT.
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It is what it is
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Anyone making Real Chili for the 4th Holiday?
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Why can't we recruit any bigs?
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Crean sucks
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Gerunds?
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I was going to remove this thread, but I think it's going places.
I agree with this analysis.
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I posted something and changed my mind 30 seconds later.
This must be what it feels like to be Jim Acosta.... Locked out of the know ;)
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This will help recruiting.
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Mbakwe doesn't push up. He pushes the Earth down.
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I really can't explain these feelings I'm having... I mean, I love my life, my family, but I just feel like something is missing. And until a few years ago, I didn't know what or who that was, but then Wojo came along. And the interesting part is that I watch him pace up and down the sidelines during the games and he looks like something is missing in his life too. Should I say something to him? I just don't know if he would feel the same about me, and the rejection would be devastating. I guess is comes down to whether it would be better to live with that scar than to never go into battle. And I've been thrusting myself into battles my entire life without nary a second thought. It's my passion. It's my life. But this is the first time I've felt like this is not so much a battle I cannot win but it's a battle I don't want to fight.
Ah, the archival wonders of the interwebs.
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Ah, the archival wonders of the interwebs.
Da fuk???
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Ah, the archival wonders of the interwebs.
Does that mean Tower and Wojo dated the same girl in high school?
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Superbar
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I wonder if MUFINY resides in Great Neck, New York?
http://www.greatneckvillage.org/ (http://www.greatneckvillage.org/)
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Benny is just reliving his Myron glory days.
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Ah, the archival wonders of the interwebs.
Lol. This is too good.
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Thought this was a JB thread about M2N and he accidentally mistyped after a few too many brewskis eh.
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#donedeal
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https://youtu.be/V8lT1o0sDwI
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Maybe Tower was typing something about 17 year old Markus Howard, realized he's now 18, and deleted it.
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I wonder if MUFINY resides in Great Neck, New York?
http://www.greatneckvillage.org/ (http://www.greatneckvillage.org/)
Another winner.
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I was going to remove this thread, but I think it's going places.
At least it made Scoop Takes.
https://twitter.com/scooptakes/status/880836952181923840
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Ah, the archival wonders of the interwebs.
Well done, but that is not what I wrote. I was actually going to post the snarky Boeheim complaint about Crean, but decided that life was too short and deleted it.
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But how's his neck size?
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We got this.
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#donedeal
Wojo to New Mexico???
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Come on little thread .. come on ..
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NM = New Mexico = Heisenberg is back!!!
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It's NM, It's NM
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It must be a riddle. Tower is taunting us that he knows the name of the unknown Hilltopper from 1915 that is still unidentified in the wiki.
Robert Meyers 1944, 45, 46, 47
__________ Meyers 1915
Bart Miller 1997, 98, 99, 2000
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/alphabetical_player_list (http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/alphabetical_player_list)
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Whatever happened to PRN?
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This is a scoop thread about nothing...
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This is a scoop thread about nothing...
Correction. It's a Scoop thread about no más.
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Correction. It's a Scoop thread about no más.
Ehhh, not my favourite 30 for 30.
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This is a scoop thread about nothing...
It we play our cards right it could become a sitcom.
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Ehhh, not my favourite 30 for 30.
I watched it on a big screen at the Milwaukee Auditorium. Never saw the 30 for 30.
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This is a scoop thread about nothing...
Let's make sure we keep it on topic with some basketball...
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ND's lame-a$$ nonconference scheduling protocol: Not Marquette.
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nan·o·me·ter (nm)
ˈnanəˌmēdər/
noun: nanometre
one billionth of a meter.
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This thread No Matta.
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This thread No Matta.
But that would be JB's call
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But that would be JB's call
Wait - JB hasn't chimed in yet! Did someone take JB?
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Source?
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ND sucks.
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Jigs or spinners.
Discuss.
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Ehhh, not my favourite favorite 30 for 30.
Stop it. You ain't no stinkin' Brit.
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We need something
To write about everything
Nevermore
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Finish this story:
"Bo Ryan and Rick Pitino walk into Porcini's...."
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We need something
To write about everything
Nevermore
We need a Scooper
Who knows the haiku format
To write the haikus
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Ah, the archival wonders of the interwebs.
Benny bro. If we ever run into each other at the Bradley Center or the Wells Fargo Center, drinks on me.
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NH?
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Finish this story:
"Bo Ryan and Rick Pitino walk into Porcini's...."
Pitino walked back out in 15 seconds. Bo took his time to find a masseuse but lost his mind when the owner called a foul on him for reaching.
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Mamajuanna
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This is a scoop thread about nothing...
Quite possibly one of our more intelligent AND agreeable threads.
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A I N A
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Life is suffering. Eat Arby's.
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Life is suffering. Eat Arby's.
We have the MEAT.
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Where's the beef?
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Double whopper with cheese.
The one that does the job.
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told my gf I didn't want to move in with her tonight... her response was "something something something you don't care about me, you only care about something something something and marquette basketball"
This seems like the perfect thread to mention this in.
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told my gf I didn't want to move in with her tonight... her response was "something something something you don't care about me, you only care about something something something and marquette basketball"
This seems like the perfect thread to mention this in.
Pics?
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Life is suffering. Eat Arby's.
Nice.
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told my gf I didn't want to move in with her tonight... her response was "something something something you don't care about me, you only care about something something something and marquette basketball"
This seems like the perfect thread to mention this in.
Watt if she cuts ya off now, hey?
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Life is suffering. Eat Arby's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vxQqdFOeoM
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Life is suffering. Eat Arby's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vxQqdFOeoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmzYiHoIySk
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told my gf I didn't want to move in with her tonight... her response was "something something something you don't care about me, you only care about something something something and marquette basketball"
This seems like the perfect thread to mention this in.
Did you tell her you'd move in if her next apartment is a box at the new arena?
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told my gf I didn't want to move in with her tonight... her response was "something something something you don't care about me, you only care about something something something and marquette basketball"
This cracked me up. Good luck with this situation!
For the record, Marquette hoops and something something something are my two faves, also!
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NJ
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told my gf I didn't want to move in with her tonight... her response was "something something something you don't care about me, you only care about something something something and marquette basketball"
This seems like the perfect thread to mention this in.
I read that to my wife and teenage daughter. I told them, see I'm not the only one. Thanks
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I read that to my wife and teenage daughter. I told them, see I'm not the only one. Thanks
Weird that fjm's girlfriend asked both of you to move in. I knew the Scoop community was close, but this is another level.
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NJ
So we'll be locked out of this thread for the holiday then?
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Weird that fjm's girlfriend asked both of you to move in. I knew the Scoop community was close, but this is another level.
Oooh, yeah I see that now...
I only meant the caring about Marquette Basketball part...honest!
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told my gf I didn't want to move in with her tonight... her response was "something something something you don't care about me, you only care about something something something and marquette basketball"
This seems like the perfect thread to mention this in.
Good to hear that you have your priorities in line.
If you care about Marquette basketball then SHE should care about Marquette basketball!
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Oooh, yeah I see that now...
I only meant the caring about Marquette Basketball part...honest!
No worries. It's the 21st century.
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Watt if she cuts ya off now, hey?
Why buy the cow, hey?
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So we'll be locked out of this thread for the holiday then?
I hear it depends on who you are....
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We need a Scooper
Who knows the haiku format
To write the haikus
words pieced together
thousands of cries in the wind
scooping for scoops sake
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words pieced together
thousands of cries in the wind
scooping for scoops sake
a scoop tradition
alive in the summer heat
self-evident truths
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Buzz Williams left
Shaka smart was a done deal
Now we have Wojo
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Every time I see the title of this thread, I'm reminded that we call my dog's food "nummies."
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Every time I see the title of this thread, I'm reminded that we call my dog's food "nummies."
My wife refers to our cat's food as "crunches." I just call it "food."
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I think this conversation is pointless until Big Daddy weighs in
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I think this conversation is pointless until Big Daddy weighs in
You mean BigDaddyNM, right?
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I am disappointed this thread is only 5 pages.
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I'm going to the Brewers @ Yankees game tonight.
I'll be cheering for my Yankees of course.
I may have to change shirts to a Marquette polo before the game.
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I am disappointed this thread is only 5 pages.
Someone's jonesing for more moderation oppertunities....
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Finish the following story:
Bo Ryan goes for a massage.
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I am disappointed this thread is only 5 pages.
Let's go for 6.
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I am disappointed this thread is only 5 pages.
Let's go for 6.
(Carpal tunnel kickin' in.)
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I am disappointed this thread is only 5 pages.
Lass uns für sechs gehen.
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As Marv Albert would say ...
YESSSSS!!!!!!
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Nads, take a viagra, hey?
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You know what's awesome? When you're eating your Arby's beef & cheddar and then you burp.
The 2nd burp is good too, but that first one, wow.
Just sayin.
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Nads, take a viagra, hey?
I don't care what you say, Papa. I am NOT a slacker! I get stuff done!!!!
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Let's go for seven
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I'm going to the Brewers @ Yankees game tonight.
I'll be cheering for my Yankees of course.
I may have to change shirts to a Marquette polo before the game.
You just can't wear a polo shirt to a baseball game. Marquette or not...
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Arby's: Potato Cakes or Curly Fries? Discuss
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Looks like mods are going make us earn page 6 the old fashioned way.
So what's everyone's old fashion preference: brandy sweet or whiskey sour?
I like a good whiskey sour myself.
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Looks like mods are going make us earn page 6 the old fashioned way.
So what's everyone's old fashion preference: brandy sweet or whiskey sour?
I like a good whiskey sour myself.
Sour.
When I drink, I have to counter-balance my sweet, lovable personality.
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Looks like mods are going make us earn page 6 the old fashioned way.
So what's everyone's old fashion preference: brandy sweet or whiskey sour?
I like a good whiskey sour myself.
Whiskey always whiskey.
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Arby's: Potato Cakes or Curly Fries? Discuss
You seriously need to ask this question? What's there to discuss?
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Fo, grain free options only, hey?
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Islay Single Malt Whiskey always Islay Single Malt whiskey.
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Fo, grain free options only, hey?
Doc,
Serious question: Where does Laphroaig fall on the verboten grain scale?
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Whiskey always whiskey.
See also "brandy never brandy." Now, done of you may say, well, what if that's all you have. But really, think about all of your life choices that led to a subpar liquor being your only option.
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Topper is a troll.
Hard work was for nothing MU82
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Irish whiskey for me. Really like the Bushmills 16 year.
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See also "brandy never brandy." Now, done of you may say, well, what if that's all you have. But really, think about all of your life choices that led to a subpar liquor being your only option.
Brandy was a fine girl.
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Brandy was a fine girl.
What a good wife she would make.
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What a good wife she would make.
Is she the one who wears a braided chain made of the finest silver from the north of Spain?
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If it's Islay I prefer ardbeg, I feel that laphroaig over peats their malts. But yes single malt over everything. For the record it'd be whisky though if it was Scottish
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Arby's: Potato Cakes or Curly Fries? Discuss
Curly fries, every time
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Doc,
Serious question: Where does Laphroaig fall on the verboten grain scale?
So, I assume its made from barley which is a grain and contains gluten. Therefore, not something I'd be interested in drinking.
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Is she the one who wears a braided chain made of the finest silver from the north of Spain?
Yep.
And a locket that bears the name of the man that Brandy loved.
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Irish whiskey for me. Really like the Bushmills 16 year.
Bushmill's is the better of the standards. (Their Red Bush takes me back to a sassy lass from Cleveland who lived at Cobeen. I was able to confirm that her fiery red mane was indeed legitimate. I needed tweezers for a week.)
If you are looking for a stellar Irish I might recommend Method and Madness. A superb single malt that is a perfect late night accompaniment to John Coltrane.
My personal favorite is Connemara's single malt 12 which is always a very limited release. I favor the Islays and this whiskey is a full throated, peaty symphony on the palate. Hide this bottle as friends in the know will drink it up on you.
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Hide this bottle as friends in the know will drink it up on you.
I avoid this issue by making sure I don't have any friends.
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Yep.
And a locket that bears the name of the man that Brandy loved.
Alas, no harbor was his home...
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So, I assume its made from barley which is a grain and contains gluten. Therefore, not something I'd be interested in drinking.
Well, let's not get carried away now...
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Potato Cakes. Way better.
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What a good wife she would make. be.
But life, my lover, my lady is the sea.
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I went to the Duluth Grill on Monday. Pooped 4 times on Tuesday and on Wed too.
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Keefe, Trego has a gentleman's club.
http://www.lookersbar.com
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But life, my lover, my lady is the sea.
Oops....
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Potato Cakes. Way better.
I concur. Horsey or Arby's Sauce?
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But life, my lover, my lady is the sea.
My wife has a friend named Brandi. Once I said to her that she was a "fine girl," and she about ripped my head off.
I mean good lord what do you expect?
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I concur. Horsey or Arby's Sauce?
A little of both.
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I concur. Horsey or Arby's Sauce?
Horsey sauce or GTFO.
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See also "brandy never brandy." Now, done of you may say, well, what if that's all you have. But really, think about all of your life choices that led to a subpar liquor being your only option.
Brandy is a fine wine, not a liquor. It is to be muddled gently with fine fruits such as orange peels and bottled-aged maraschino cherries marinated in bartender's sugar water in the same manner that JayBee affectionately cuddles his Furby at bedtime.
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My wife has a friend named Brandi. Once I said to her that she was a "fine girl," and she about ripped my head off.
I mean good lord what do you expect?
I've often been tempted to ask a girl I know named Jenny if her number is 867-5309.
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Bushmill's is the better of the standards. (Their Red Bush takes me back to a sassy lass from Cleveland who lived at Cobeen. I was able to confirm that her fiery red mane was indeed legitimate. I needed tweezers for a week.)
If you are looking for a stellar Irish I might recommend Method and Madness. A superb single malt that is a perfect late night accompaniment to John Coltrane.
My personal favorite is Connemara's single malt 12 which is always a very limited release. I favor the Islays and this whiskey is a full throated, peaty symphony on the palate. Hide this bottle as friends in the know will drink it up on you.
+1000 for the Connemara recommendation, I have a bottle sitting in my decanter right now. It's described perfectly by Keefe and can hold its own against any islay. If you aren't in for peaty then Redbreast 15 or Teeling is the best value of Irish though.
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I'ma just leave this here.
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I'ma just leave this here.
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The Return of Cheeks!
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I've often been tempted to ask a girl I know named Jenny if her number is 867-5309.
Here's my advice:
Don't.
She's already heard it a jillion times.
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Here's my advice:
Don't.
She's already heard it a jillion times.
Exactly why I've been tempted...but never asked.
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Topper is a troll.
Hard work was for nothing MU82
Outrageous.
Just another example of The Man keeping interwebs mopes down!
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Laphroaig has the nose of a wet band-aid
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Laphroaig has the nose of a wet band-aid
I've always thought it was amusing that people talk about alcoholic drinks as having a nose.
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I'ma just leave this here.
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Pretty good weight transfer, but the follow through needs work.
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Keefe, Trego has a gentleman's club.
http://www.lookersbar.com
There's no tail like beaver tail.
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Never go out drinking without a few extra long golf tees.
I'ma just leave this here.
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I'ma just leave this here.
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Those aren't pillows!
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I've always thought it was amusing that people talk about alcoholic drinks as having a nose.
Paging W C Field.
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Paging W C Field.
Isn't he dead?
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Isn't he dead?
I don't know who he is, but I am certain that W.C. Fields is.
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Isn't he dead?
Yep, something about I'd rather be in Philadelphia.
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From WC Fields wiki page:
"Fields' comic persona was a misanthropic and hard-drinking egotist, who remained a sympathetic character despite his snarling contempt for dogs and children."
My hero.
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Was he related to Marshall Fields? Mrs. Fields? Landry Fields?
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Totie Fields?
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Strawberry Fields?
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Strawberry Fields?
Forever.
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Strawberry Fields?
Darryl Strawberry.
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Darryl Strawberry.
Chocolate Thunder...greatest Darryl ever...greatest nickname ever.
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Thunder only happens when its rainin', hey?
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Chocolate Thunder...greatest Darryl ever...greatest nickname ever.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Hwr4HMdFvuAdG/giphy.gif)
BTW, Dr. Dunkenstein (his other great nickname) named this dunk "The Chocolate-Thunder-Flying, Robinzine-Crying, Teeth-Shaking, Glass-Breaking, Rump-Roasting, Bun-Toasting, Wham-Bam, Glass-Breaker-I-Am-Jam."
I mean, how awesome is that?
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BTW, Dr. Dunkenstein (his other great nickname) named this dunk "The Chocolate-Thunder-Flying, Robinzine-Crying, Teeth-Shaking, Glass-Breaking, Rump-Roasting, Bun-Toasting, Wham-Bam, Glass-Breaker-I-Am-Jam."
I mean, how awesome is that?
Darryl Griffith was Dr Dunkenstein
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Chocolate Thunder...greatest Darryl ever...greatest nickname ever.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Hwr4HMdFvuAdG/giphy.gif)
Got the moniker from one of the greatest songwriters of my generation - Stevie Wonder.
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Darryl Griffith was Dr Dunkenstein
Oh damn. That's right.
Alien from the Planet Lovetron was Dawkins though right?
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Oh damn. That's right.
Alien from the Planet Lovetron was Dawkins though right?
The 80s sounds like a hell of a time.
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I've often been tempted to ask a girl I know named Jenny if her number is 867-5309.
Call 425-867-5309
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The 80s sounds like a hell of a time.
Late 70s.
By the 80s the Sixers dumped Darryl for Moses.
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The 80s Cocaine sounds like a hell of a time drug.
FIFY. And yes, yes it is.
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Cocaine by Clapton was a helluva song.
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Living on reds, vitamin C, and cocain. All a friend can say is ain't it a F'in shame
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Cocaine by Clapton JJ Cale was a helluva song.
fixed
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Either more of it or less of it
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Thaaaat looks nothing like him.
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Quick question, if Mike Deane is allowed to stay on and finish his recruiting of D Wade, how does MU fare vs Kansas in the FF?
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Quick question, if Mike Deane is allowed to stay on and finish his recruiting of D Wade, how does MU fare vs Kansas in the FF?
Like the other 350+ schools that didn't play there.
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Quick question, if Mike Deane is allowed to stay on and finish his recruiting of D Wade, how does MU fare vs Kansas in the FF?
Win by 40 hey
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This must be what it feels like to be Jim Acosta....
Terminal hubris??
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Terminal hubris??
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Terminal hubris??
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how the gosh-dang heck the bailbondsman gets the hook but we are still stuck with this pos-life just ain't fair, enn'a so? ?-(
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No thanks. I always preferred it when it was played by Clapton as opposed to Cale.
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Terminal hubris??
To be honest, I saw Towers original thread title. It was something like Jim lashes out. Had just read a story about Jim Acostas rants and assumed that's what the thread was originally about. Was trying to be sneaky and clever....too tall a task for me!
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Terminal velocity?
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To be honest, I saw Towers original thread title. It was something like Jim lashes out. Had just read a story about Jim Acostas rants and assumed that's what the thread was originally about. Was trying to be sneaky and clever....too tall a task for me!
Boeheim went after Crean for disparaging one of Jim's players during the NBA Draft. I posted the story, then erased it along with the thread of the title. Then Scoop happened.
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how the gosh-dang heck the bailbondsman gets the hook but we are still stuck with this pos-life just ain't fair, enn'a so? ?-(
As is often the case, I have no idea what rocketman is saying here.
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As is often the case, I have no idea what rocketman is saying here.
It would appear he is somehow under the illusion that Chico's is no longer on Scoop.
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It would appear he is somehow under the illusion that Chico's is no longer on Scoop.
He isn't. He now only posts on HoopaScoop.
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Terminal hubris??
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LhwD7-QGjRs/hqdefault.jpg)
Since you say you bill $500 an hour that post cost you at least 100 bucks. Better get back to the police scanner to find your next client...
(https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.K7SFZwiIXDBz1uGg4xexogEsDG&pid=15.1)
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Quick question, if Mike Deane is allowed to stay on and finish his recruiting of D Wade, how does MU fare vs Kansas in the FF?
We'd have been out of timeouts with 10 minutes to go in the first half.
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Couldn't have dunn any worst. Crappin' Haggars is still crappin' Haggars, ai na?
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Does anyone really think we would have made the Final Four with Deane? Even if we assume he would have closed the deal with Wade, I seriously doubt he would have gotten Diener, Novak, Merritt and RJax.
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Are we getting to 10? Where are you MU82?
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Are we getting to 10? Where are you MU82?
Nah, going up to 10 is child's play.
These go to 11.
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Since you say you bill $500 an hour that post cost you at least 100 bucks. Better get back to the police scanner to find your next client...
We both deserved a little break. Now I can go back to billing my time and you can go back to being a pompous little misogynist who is constantly swinging his dick.
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It's a guard's game.
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Does anyone really think we would have made the Final Four with Deane? Even if we assume he would have closed the deal with Wade, I seriously doubt he would have gotten Diener, Novak, Merritt and RJax.
Krunti Hester would have moved us into the Championship game.
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Where's Sacar?
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Fun Fact:
When travelling outside your own locale and shopping at a grocery store that has a discount card... you can typically get the discount without signing up for the card simply by punching in 867-5309 with the local area code.
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Fun Fact:
When travelling outside your own locale and shopping at a grocery store that has a discount card... you can typically get the discount without signing up for the card simply by punching in 867-5309 with the local area code.
Do you have to register as Jenny, or is Benny close enough?
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Oh damn. That's right.
Alien from the Planet Lovetron was Dawkins though right?
Indeed!
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Krunti Hester would have moved us into the Championship game.
LaDaryl...
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Are we getting to 10? Where are you MU82?
Coaching at a basketball camp this week.
Damn ... working is freakin' hard. I don't see how folks do it! I'm glad I gave it up for permanent lent!!
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They say hard work never killed anyone, but why risk it?
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They say hard work never killed anyone, but why risk it?
Source?
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They say hard work never killed anyone, but why risk it?
I hear you only work the easy jobs
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Just ax Colleen Casey, hey?
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'Morning y'all.
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'Morning y'all.
Joey probably read this thread and was impressed.
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'Morning y'all.
Got up befour breakfast sew ya can bee furst in line tadey at Portillo's, ai na?
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Got up befour breakfast sew ya can bee furst in line tadey at Portillo's, ai na?
I Love Portillo's.
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I just had a bowl of oatmeal for breakfast.
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My bowl was Captain Crunchberry.
Oh, captain my captain.
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I Love Portillo's.
So does Rick.
Oh wait - I thought you said Porcini's....
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Got up befour breakfast sew ya can bee furst in line tadey at Portillo's, ai na?
Na, had some Real Chili for breakfast instead.
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I just had a bowl of oatmeal for breakfast.
I had a banana that was about to go bad. Tasted okay, though.
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Back to original name. Not going to further celebrate a kid who must now address this year's Frosh as 'sir'.
Nothing personal. Earn it, Warrior.
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Girl at MU in my class that looked so much like Rosanne Rosanadana that she was called Rosanne. She did look like her but she was better looking.
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I had a banana that was about to go bad. Tasted okay, though.
I'm always wary of those, but it's a nice surprise when they still taste OK.
My wife once had a boss who loved them WAY overripe. He'd let them sit in the kitchen getting black and mushy, and considered them "ready to eat" when the staff started to complain about the smell and all the fruitflies swarming around.
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I'm always wary of those, but it's a nice surprise when they still taste OK.
My wife once had a boss who loved them WAY overripe. He'd let them sit in the kitchen getting black and mushy, and considered them "ready to eat" when the staff started to complain about the smell and all the fruitflies swarming around.
Ever try inoculating a banana with brewer's yeast?
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I had two breakfast tacos with some chips and queso.
God bless Texas. The people are nice, the winter weather is amazing, but the best part hands down is that tacos and nachos is considered a regular breakfast.
Don't worry 4ever, corn tortilla and corn chips.
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Have you ever tried smoking a banana?
3...2...1...
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I had two breakfast tacos with some chips and queso.
God bless Texas. The people are nice, the winter weather is amazing, but the best part hands down is that tacos and nachos is considered a regular breakfast.
Don't worry 4ever, corn tortilla and corn chips.
Washed down with Lone Star?
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My wife and I vacationed in Jamaica about 5 years ago. She commented how much better the bananas tasted. She asked a native that was working a resort about this. He answered, the bananas naturally sweeten on the tree as they ripen. But exported bananas are picked when they are far from ripe and they don't sweeten as much after they leave the tree. So on your next Caribbean vacation, make sure to try the bananas.
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My wife and I vacationed in Jamaica about 5 years ago. She commented how much better the bananas tasted. She asked a native that was working a resort about this. He answered, the bananas naturally sweeten on the tree as they ripen. But exported bananas are picked when they are far from ripe and they don't sweeten as much after they leave the tree. So on your next Caribbean vacation, make sure to try the bananas.
Or any of the fruit. Wonderful.
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Speaking of fruit, anyone else here tried a durian?
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Why is Portillo's so freaking busy? Never heard of them. Tried to visit our new one in Woodbury and the parking lot was insane. Who designs these new parking lot with tight lanes and curbs everywhere. can't get in and out.
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Speaking of fruit, anyone else here tried a durian?
No. But I recall the first time I saw them in a grocery store in China.
I asked our Asia sales rep what it was. He said Durian fruit. And he said they are banned at most hotels in Asia because they don't want the stinky smell in the hotel.
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No. But I recall the first time I saw them in a grocery store in China.
I asked our Asia sales rep what it was. He said Durian fruit. And he said they are banned at most hotels in Asia because they don't want the stinky smell in the hotel.
Yep, they smell and taste awful. I tried one in Singapore because they were a big deal there, and it tasted like an onion that had gone bad. I just couldn't choke the whole thing down. Andrew Zimmern (who can eat almost anything) couldn't finish one. And one travel writer described them as follows:
"... its odor is best described as pig-crap, turpentine and onions, garnished with a gym sock. It can be smelled from yards away. Despite its great local popularity, the raw fruit is forbidden from some establishments such as hotels, subways and airports, including public transportation in Southeast Asia"
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Washed down with Lone Star?
I don't drink that swill. Shiner or GtFO
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Why is Portillo's so freaking busy? Never heard of them. Tried to visit our new one in Woodbury and the parking lot was insane. Who designs these new parking lot with tight lanes and curbs everywhere. can't get in and out.
Tell me about it.
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Washed down with Lone Star?
Please, Doc. Shiner Bock.
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Please, Doc. Shiner Bock.
Amen crash
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Speaking of fruit, anyone else here tried a durian?
That's a staple from Thailand through Indonesia. I don't care for it but, funnily enough, my wife loved them.
They have durian-flavored ice cream and cake. Not my thing.
I recall golfing at Penang and they had nets under the durian trees along the fairways. The durians weigh upwards of 20 pounds and are at 100' off the ground. They can kill people as they fall from the trees.
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Amen crash
Aggie
Kreuz with Shiner Bock? F#ckin' orgasmic.
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Tell me about it.
Did you actually go through the drive-thru line? They have it down to a science. You can be behind 15 other cars in line and still get your food 5 minutes later.
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So does Rick.
Oh wait - I thought you said Porcini's....
Oh I thought you meant the guy that started the Place.
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Seams ta me Pitino went thru da drive-thru lane at Porcini's. Ether dat or he got whistled for 3 seconds in da lane, hey?
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I don't drink that swill. Shiner or GtFO
Never been impressed with either, but if that works better for you....
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Seams ta me Pitino went thru da drive-thru lane at Porcini's. Ether dat or he got whistled for 3 seconds in da lane, hey?
He dribbled in the lane for all of 15 seconds.
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Did you actually go through the drive-thru line? They have it down to a science. You can be behind 15 other cars in line and still get your food 5 minutes later.
Ha. Science fiction. Took 20 min and order was wrong.
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Went to Peter Frampton on Sunday. He sucked.
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Went to Peter Frampton on Sunday. He sucked.
He hasn't been good since he split with Penny from Brookfield. Maybe she DID write most of his songs...,
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Supposedly the luxury yacht docked at Discovery World belongs to Jay-Z and Beyonce with Christina Aguilera aboard while in town performing for NML convention, hey?
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He dribbled in the lane for all of 15 seconds.
Short order cooking...
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So, installing Lutron macl-153m-la switches to control a light. Can't get the mfers to work. Anyone install these and have the same issue?
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Supposedly the luxury yacht docked at Discovery World belongs to Jay-Z and Beyonce with Christina Aguilera aboard while in town performing for NML convention, hey?
You should post this in the "NML" thread.
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So, installing Lutron macl-153m-la switches to control a light. Can't get the mfers to work. Anyone install these and have the same issue?
They worked for me, you using the correct bulbs?
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So, installing Lutron macl-153m-la switches to control a light. Can't get the mfers to work. Anyone install these and have the same issue?
I got some Lutron switches about a year ago, but they still aren't working. Probably should take them out of the package....
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Dunkirk was a great movie.
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Dunkirk was a great movie.
Yep, and LOUD
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Dunkirk was a great movie.
So it wasn't, in Al's parlance, a Dunkirk?
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They worked for me, you using the correct bulbs?
Yes. Have power to the switches too, but can't even get the LEDs on the side of the switches to light up. Tried switching up the wire positions too.
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Dunkirk was a great movie.
Seeing it Thursday. Pretty stoked. Gonna smuggle in some whiskey for the showing.
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C'mon people, can we please try to keep this thread on topic?
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NM
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Yep, and LOUD
I usually hate loud, but this was impressive loud. It had meaning. The layering to build sound illusion made the movie.
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I usually hate loud, but this was impressive loud. It had meaning. The layering to build sound illusion made the movie.
I'm impressed with your analysis, and I agree.
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C'mon people, can we please try to keep this thread on topic?
Priceless!
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I usually hate loud, but this was impressive loud. It had meaning. The layering to build sound illusion made the movie.
My wife, who doesn't like war movies in general and usually likes movies to have some sort of romantic sub-plot, loved Dunkirk. (A war movie with no romance.) And yeah it was loud, but loud for effect.
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Went to Peter Frampton on Sunday. He sucked.
Heard he stormed off the stage because too many fans were cheering?
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Heard he stormed off the stage because too many fans were cheering?
So they were loud, but with no meaning?
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My wife, who doesn't like war movies in general and usually likes movies to have some sort of romantic sub-plot, loved Dunkirk. (A war movie with no romance.) And yeah it was loud, but loud for effect.
A movie about a bunch of men who are trapped in France and you don't think there's any romance going on?
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A movie about a bunch of men who are trapped in France and you don't think there's any romance going on?
Wham bam, thanks man!
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Yes. Have power to the switches too, but can't even get the LEDs on the side of the switches to light up. Tried switching up the wire positions too.
Do you know if the 3-way wire is all the way clear through any junction boxes? That would probably screw it up along the way.
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Do you know if the 3-way wire is all the way clear through any junction boxes? That would probably screw it up along the way.
Unlike conventional switches/dimmers, you need a neutral for these puppies, and most people mix up the travelers (3-way wires) with the neutral - that is if there's even a neutral in-wall.
GE makes a dimmer that doesn't require a neutral, but reviews are mixed.
I returned my Lutrons and went with Levitron z-waves instead. Z-wave eliminates the need for a traveler, so if you don't have a neutral in the switch box, look for one in the other switch box and tie it to the traveler if there is... the 3-way is now a neutral and you can put your dummy switch anywhere.
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Jimi Hendrix is technically a one-hit wonder.
I would have guessed "Purple Haze" was the hit, but it was "All Along the Watchtower"
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Jimi Hendrix is technically a one-hit wonder.
I would have guessed "Purple Haze" was the hit, but it was "All Along the Watchtower"
So was The Grateful Dead. Do you know what it was?
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So was The Grateful Dead. Do you know what it was?
Actually I knew that one. Touch of Grey.
My personal favorite on-hit wonder song is In a Big Country by Big Country. Today. Tomorrow it will probably be something else.
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Unlike conventional switches/dimmers, you need a neutral for these puppies, and most people mix up the travelers (3-way wires) with the neutral - that is if there's even a neutral in-wall.
GE makes a dimmer that doesn't require a neutral, but reviews are mixed.
I returned my Lutrons and went with Levitron z-waves instead. Z-wave eliminates the need for a traveler, so if you don't have a neutral in the switch box, look for one in the other switch box and tie it to the traveler if there is... the 3-way is now a neutral and you can put your dummy switch anywhere.
Scoop at its finest!!!
Barbecue to spinners to how to buy a car to electrical engineering to mamajuanna and its affect on fertility.
We got it all!
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Scoop at its finest!!!
Barbecue to spinners to how to buy a car to electrical engineering to mamajuanna and its affect on fertility.
We got it all!
Nudge...salsa?
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Jimi Hendrix is technically a one-hit wonder.
I would have guessed "Purple Haze" was the hit, but it was "All Along the Watchtower"
But back in the day, those classic rock dudes didn't really push singles. Led Zeppelin had only one top 10 hit in the US. Whole Lotta Love.
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Chubby Checker reely originate da "twist," hey?
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Nudge...salsa?
Forgive me Dunks.
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Jimi Hendrix is technically a one-hit wonder.
I would have guessed "Purple Haze" was the hit, but it was "All Along the Watchtower"
An awesome song!
And although it isn't his writing, his performance of the Star Spangled Banner at Woodstock was incredible.
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There were a ton of one-hit wonders once upon a time.
"2525" by Zager & Evans.
"Red Rubber Ball" by Cyrcle.
"Horse with No Name" by America.
"Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas.
And so on and so on.
But I do get the earlier point. Hendrix and the Dead were iconic rockers, unlike any of the above.
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There were a ton of one-hit wonders once upon a time.
"2525" by Zager & Evans.
"Red Rubber Ball" by Cyrcle.
"Horse with No Name" by America.
America was hardly a one hit wonder. They had seven top 10 hits from 1972-1982.
Sister Golden Hair, Ventura Highway, Tin Man, You Can Do Magic...
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Dunkirk was solid, a bit hard to follow with that English accent.
But the previews for IT and the new Kingsman movie was pretty solid.
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Touch of Grey.
Ugh. Disco Dead...
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And although it isn't his writing, his performance of the Star Spangled Banner at Woodstock was incredible.
That was the last song played by ZMF as it went off the air. An appropriate selection.
Milwaukee's airwaves were never the same. Save for Ron Cuznor it was a dismal after ZMF died.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tifSNTOtfdU
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There were a ton of one-hit wonders once upon a time.
"2525" by Zager & Evans.
"Red Rubber Ball" by Cyrcle.
"Horse with No Name" by America.
"Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas.
And so on and so on.
But I do get the earlier point. Hendrix and the Dead were iconic rockers, unlike any of the above.
Actually saw the Cyrcle as an opening act - along with Bobby Hebb ("Sunny") - for the Beatles at the Chicago Amphitheater in 1966. They performed their 2 hits ("Red Rubber Ball" and "Turn Down Day") and then did a medley of Beach Boys songs. Pleasant voices, lightweight performers.
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That was the last song played by ZMF as it went off the air. An appropriate selection.
Milwaukee's airwaves were never the same. Save for Ron Cuznor it was a dismal after ZMF died.
Growing up in Menomonee Falls, I listened to ZMF in my high school days. It closed not long before I graduated.
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Parked across from my station this morning..... a minivan with Wisconsin plates and UW and ND stickers in the back window. That person would have to go so far for me to not hold them in contempt.
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That was the last song played by ZMF as it went off the air. An appropriate selection.
Milwaukee's airwaves were never the same. Save for Ron Cuznor it was a dismal after ZMF died.
They actually played Purple Haze after that. I have the last 24 hours ZMF broadcast on cd. I lived a mile from ZMF.
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Ugh. Disco Dead...
My favorite Dead year is 77 but having said that I love 80s Dead. When Brent came into the band it was a shot of life. That organ and his backup vocals brought a whole new sound. Granted 84-86 were the worst of Jerry's heroin days but otherwise the 80s rocked. Lots of great tunes coming outta those years. Big 90 and 91 guy too.
Again though, late 70s is my jam
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Ugh. Disco Dead...
Keefe, have you checked out Dead and Company? They're phenomenal. Best off shoot of the Dead IMO. I've seen most of the off shoots and I was at Fare Thee Well and while it was amazing, Dead and Company blows them out of the water (music wise, the scene at Fare Thee Well was top notch).
If you haven't seen them yet, do it. John Mayer absolutely slays on guitar. I'm not a fan of his solo stuff but he's proven that he's the right man for the job when it comes to Playing In The Band
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I just had a bowl of oatmeal for breakfast.
Having a beer for breakfast at St. Marteen. Life is hard. Not drunk but attachment won't upload properly
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Sand gotta lotta debree. Could use a good cleanin', hey?
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Sand gotta lotta debree. Could use a good cleanin', hey?
All seashells and balloons....
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Best custard? Kopps, Gilles or Leon's?
Koop's is the bomb!
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Having a beer for breakfast at St. Marteen. Life is hard. Not drunk but attachment won't upload properly
The upload function doesn't like portrait photos.
Are you at Orient? Which beach bar are you at? I like "Aloha". Ask for Sammy. ;)
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Chick spent the entire day hoping that towel would fall off.
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Growing up in Menomonee Falls
Did you know Ernie V?
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The upload function doesn't like portrait photos.
Are you at Orient? Which beach bar are you at? I like "Aloha". Ask for Sammy. ;)
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No I'm at Pink Flamingo :P
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No I'm at Pink Flamingo :P
AKA da Shady Lady Ranch, hey?
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AKA da Shady Lady Ranch, hey?
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Did you know Ernie V?
Not personally - just a kid, but I saw him around town. Lived less than a mile from his original lot - "Main Street in Menomonee Falls."
Locals referred to him as "Dirty Ernie."
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Wheels up for Havana, Cuba ladies and gents. No luxury resort like the other fellas in the thread.
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Well, back to reality just got off the ship. Work tomorrow :'(
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Need a bloody
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Well, back to reality just got off the ship. Work tomorrow :'(
Hope you survived the first day back. The sudden jolt of reality after a vacation sucks....
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Hope you survived the first day back. The sudden jolt of reality after a vacation sucks....
I'm good, thanks!
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AKA da Shady Lady Ranch, hey?
A lot of us were made in the shade, Doc!
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A lot of us were made in the shade, Doc!
That's one of those details I'm glad I didn't ask my parents about....
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Not personally - just a kid, but I saw him around town. Lived less than a mile from his original lot - "Main Street in Menomonee Falls."
Locals referred to him as "Dirty Ernie."
I went to MUHS with his son Arthur ("Artie"). Drove a new Buick Riviera to school.
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Best custard? Kopps, Gilles or Leon's?
Koop's is the bomb!
I would have to say Kopps. Great burgers as a palate cleanser before the main event.
But you forgot a legendary House of Custard that also had incredible buttered beef burgers - Al's. Al's had phenomenal hamburgers that were slathered in butter. I think he claimed to have invented the butter burger.
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Just read this thread, you people are amazing
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Any phans out there paying attention to the bakers dozen?
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Here's a story. I was talking with a neighbor last night, asked him how his summer was.
Terrible, he says. Single dad and his 11 year old son drove to the Smoky Mountains for a week. On the trip up a mountain, his transmission blows, $4000 to fix. Gets towed, rents a car, continues trip.
Arrive at cabin, start unpacking. As they do, a hungry bear appears. They safely retreat, barricade themselves in the cabin. Next day, he sees his car bouncing up and down, thinks there are kids having sex in his rental car. Confronts them with a broom, but .. it's a bear, in the car, doing what bears do, pooping, pissing, clawing. Calls 911 to have the bear removed. Rental car is trashed.
During the next 48 hours, they have 11 bear encounters and leave the cabin early for a hotel.
Somehow, he cleans up the bear poop, buys a carpet cleaner, a gallon of Febreeze, glues the claw marks up and returns the rental car and they don't notice.
He said the trip was awful, but I told his 11 year old son .. dude, you'll win the day when the teacher asks "so, what did everyone do this summer?"
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Here's a story. I was talking with a neighbor last night, asked him how his summer was.
Terrible, he says. Single dad and his 11 year old son drove to the Smoky Mountains for a week. On the trip up a mountain, his transmission blows, $4000 to fix. Gets towed, rents a car, continues trip.
Arrive at cabin, start unpacking. As they do, a hungry bear appears. They safely retreat, barricade themselves in the cabin. Next day, he sees his car bouncing up and down, thinks there are kids having sex in his rental car. Confronts them with a broom, but .. it's a bear, in the car, doing what bears do, pooping, pissing, clawing. Calls 911 to have the bear removed. Rental car is trashed.
During the next 48 hours, they have 11 bear encounters and leave the cabin early for a hotel.
Somehow, he cleans up the bear poop, buys a carpet cleaner, a gallon of Febreeze, glues the claw marks up and returns the rental car and they don't notice.
He said the trip was awful, but I told his 11 year old son .. dude, you'll win the day when the teacher asks "so, what did everyone do this summer?"
Now, there's one thing that you men will be able to say when you get back home, and you may thank God for it.
Thirty years from now when you're sitting around your fireside with your grandson on your knee, and he asks you, "What did you do in the great World War II?" -- you won't have to say, "Well, I shoveled sh1t in Louisiana."
http://www.youtube.com/v/CYhHIe_UELM
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In 100 years, no one will care that you ever existed. On the other hand, Arby's is delicious.
There is no message beyond that.
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Here's a story. I was talking with a neighbor last night, asked him how his summer was.
Terrible, he says. Single dad and his 11 year old son drove to the Smoky Mountains for a week. On the trip up a mountain, his transmission blows, $4000 to fix. Gets towed, rents a car, continues trip.
Arrive at cabin, start unpacking. As they do, a hungry bear appears. They safely retreat, barricade themselves in the cabin. Next day, he sees his car bouncing up and down, thinks there are kids having sex in his rental car. Confronts them with a broom, but .. it's a bear, in the car, doing what bears do, pooping, pissing, clawing. Calls 911 to have the bear removed. Rental car is trashed.
During the next 48 hours, they have 11 bear encounters and leave the cabin early for a hotel.
Somehow, he cleans up the bear poop, buys a carpet cleaner, a gallon of Febreeze, glues the claw marks up and returns the rental car and they don't notice.
He said the trip was awful, but I told his 11 year old son .. dude, you'll win the day when the teacher asks "so, what did everyone do this summer?"
:o
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Here's a story. I was talking with a neighbor last night, asked him how his summer was.
Terrible, he says. Single dad and his 11 year old son drove to the Smoky Mountains for a week. On the trip up a mountain, his transmission blows, $4000 to fix. Gets towed, rents a car, continues trip.
Arrive at cabin, start unpacking. As they do, a hungry bear appears. They safely retreat, barricade themselves in the cabin. Next day, he sees his car bouncing up and down, thinks there are kids having sex in his rental car. Confronts them with a broom, but .. it's a bear, in the car, doing what bears do, pooping, pissing, clawing. Calls 911 to have the bear removed. Rental car is trashed.
During the next 48 hours, they have 11 bear encounters and leave the cabin early for a hotel.
Somehow, he cleans up the bear poop, buys a carpet cleaner, a gallon of Febreeze, glues the claw marks up and returns the rental car and they don't notice.
He said the trip was awful, but I told his 11 year old son .. dude, you'll win the day when the teacher asks "so, what did everyone do this summer?"
Are we certain the bear didn't get to the teenagers first?
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Are we certain the bear didn't to the teenagers first?
Were the teenagers above .08%?
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Here's a story. I was talking with a neighbor last night, asked him how his summer was.
Terrible, he says. Single dad and his 11 year old son drove to the Smoky Mountains for a week. On the trip up a mountain, his transmission blows, $4000 to fix. Gets towed, rents a car, continues trip.
Arrive at cabin, start unpacking. As they do, a hungry bear appears. They safely retreat, barricade themselves in the cabin. Next day, he sees his car bouncing up and down, thinks there are kids having sex in his rental car. Confronts them with a broom, but .. it's a bear, in the car, doing what bears do, pooping, pissing, clawing. Calls 911 to have the bear removed. Rental car is trashed.
During the next 48 hours, they have 11 bear encounters and leave the cabin early for a hotel.
Somehow, he cleans up the bear poop, buys a carpet cleaner, a gallon of Febreeze, glues the claw marks up and returns the rental car and they don't notice.
He said the trip was awful, but I told his 11 year old son .. dude, you'll win the day when the teacher asks "so, what did everyone do this summer?"
Old man taught da 11 year old was havin' sex in da car? Only happens wit folks from the Bay. Solid man, hey?
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Old man taught da 11 year old was havin' sex in da car? Only happens wit folks from the Bay. Solid man, hey?
Nowhere remotely does the story indicate he thought it was his kid in the car. This is neither topical nor amusing.
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Reminds me of the time I returned a rental car with a cracked windshield and a flat tire. Got a demand letter, so I turned it over to my credit card company. Credit card insurer offered them about 50% of their initial demand and told them to pound sand on the rest. I was positive the rental company was going to come after me for the remainder, but they let it go. A few years later, I was recalling the story with fellow business travelers at an airport roundtable (by which I mean the table on which we were setting our beers was round) and one guy said that most airport rental locations that are doing 100's of rentals/day won't even bother to document any damage on a return unless it's blatantly obvious mostly because it's a waste of employee time. Which makes the whole car rental insurance thing sound like a scam: they would rather deal with damage internally and get the car back into operation instead of having to subrogate or chase down (i.e. risk losing) a customer... so in the process if they can get the customer to pay a few extra bucks for the "insurance" up front, gravy!
Any former Enterprise branch managers here wish to confirm/deny this?
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Are we certain the bear didn't to the teenagers first?
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One of my favorite movie lines. "Bear f**ker! Do you need assistance?"
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I once hit a bird on my way back to the airport in a rental car. Didn't realize until the agent looked it over that it broke the plastic grill of the car and was still stuck there. He yanked it out and gave me my receipt.
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So, if a bear shyts in the woods, everyone notices but Avis?
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I'm always amazed that rental car agencies can find buyers for their used cars. I guess if you price 'em low enough, but still....
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Reminds me of the time I returned a rental car with a cracked windshield and a flat tire. Got a demand letter, so I turned it over to my credit card company. Credit card insurer offered them about 50% of their initial demand and told them to pound sand on the rest. I was positive the rental company was going to come after me for the remainder, but they let it go. A few years later, I was recalling the story with fellow business travelers at an airport roundtable (by which I mean the table on which we were setting our beers was round) and one guy said that most airport rental locations that are doing 100's of rentals/day won't even bother to document any damage on a return unless it's blatantly obvious mostly because it's a waste of employee time. Which makes the whole car rental insurance thing sound like a scam: they would rather deal with damage internally and get the car back into operation instead of having to subrogate or chase down (i.e. risk losing) a customer... so in the process if they can get the customer to pay a few extra bucks for the "insurance" up front, gravy!
Any former Enterprise branch managers here wish to confirm/deny this?
Worst business trip ever for me, was maybe 8 years back in Fremont, CA. My first rental car got a flat tire, so I put the donut on it and brought it back to the rental place and got a replacement. A day or two later, somebody smashed into rental car number 2 from behind while it was parked in the hotel parking lot overnight. So it was towed back to the rental car place. All they had left was a minivan, which was rental car 3. A couple days later, after working my 10th or 11th straight 14 hour day, some of my co-workers say to me, "CTWarrior, you have to come to dinner with us because you're going to lose it if you don't." I have a minivan, with tinted windows, so I hide my PC under the back seat, which is the best I can do to hide it without a trunk. After dinner, I come back out, and when I get to the van, I see broken glass. In about 3 seconds I have the following realizations.
Hey, I don't remember broken glass when I pulled in.
Oh crap, that's my rental van window that was smashed.
Oh s**t, my PC is gone.
FWIW, two other consultants I was working with also had their PCs stolen from their car that same night, including one who lost his passport and was planning on a business trip to Europe a day or two later.
So, two young parking lot security knuckleheads come see me at my car, and one of them says, "Oh man, this keeps happening!"
After a 5 minute conversation with these guys where they explain this has happened several times in the past month, I am getting angrier and angrier because as we talk it becomes apparent that they haven't posted any warning or beefed up security or pretty much done anything to stop the problem. So finally I I say, "Well, are you going to call the police?"
"No man, they won't come for this."
"Why not?"
"No one is immediate danger. You gotta report it on their website."
To which I say, infuriated, "I can't report it on the f***ing website, because they stole my f***ing computer!"
It was especially annoying because I am a moron I had just backed up the PC and the back up drive was in my computer case. So I lost the friggin' back up, too. No incidents with the fourth car, at least.
At various times during that same 3 week trip, I had to evacuate the office because of a fire, whereupon I was pelted in a hailstorm, and had to evacuate the office on two other occasions for earthquakes, had the Fremont Police bang on my hotel door at 3 in the morning to interview me because there was an alleged rape in the room next to mine, and about a dozen work-related things that went haywire.
People at work still joke about threatening to send me back to Fremont if I don't do this or that, even though we sold the site within a year of completing the project for them.
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Worst business trip ever for me, was maybe 8 years back in Fremont, CA...
That was hilarious and brutal. Thanks for sharing, and sorry you had to suffer through that week. ;D
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Great story Rocky.
Side note: Cuba is great. Felt safer there than I did in Jamaica or in dominican. That said it's definitely not resort style vacation.
What's everyone drinking tonight.
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Great story Rocky.
Side note: Cuba is great. Felt safer there than I did in Jamaica or in dominican. That said it's definitely not resort style vacation.
What's everyone drinking tonight.
You know what? Good idea. A cocktail might be a good idea this evening.
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Great story Rocky.
Side note: Cuba is great. Felt safer there than I did in Jamaica or in dominican. That said it's definitely not resort style vacation.
What's everyone drinking tonight.
Mulligan. Local micro brew. Thursday is the department happy hour
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Nothing for me. Doing the Whole30. Day 4.
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Milk. Fookin' pharmaceutical industry is killing me: "Do not take with alcohol."
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Milk. Fookin' pharmaceutical industry is killing me: "Do not take with alcohol."
Are they good drugs?
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You know what? Good idea. A cocktail might be a good idea this evening.
Can you at least wait until I get home, I am stuck on a stopped, completely full train (including standers), and the air conditioning is not working.
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Anyone had the mystery Manhattan at the Lake Elmo Inn? They are out of this world.
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Can you at least wait until I get home, I am stuck on a stopped, completely full train (including sanders, and the air conditioning is not working.
Metrapalooza too. Have Glow make you a double.
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What's everyone drinking tonight.
Milk with dinner, but switching to water for the rest of the night. They tend to frown on me having anything stronger at work.
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Are they good drugs?
Jury's still out....
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Jury's still out....
Still drippin' and itchin', eh???
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Milk. Fookin' pharmaceutical industry is killing me: "Do not take with alcohol."
Not a Brett Favre fan, eh?
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Still drippin' and itchin', eh???
;D
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What in holy hell.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/03/should-you-seal-your-penis-shut-jiftip-sticker-during-sex-its-risky-doctor-says/535588001/
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What in holy hell.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/03/should-you-seal-your-penis-shut-jiftip-sticker-during-sex-its-risky-doctor-says/535588001/
So essentially this is a product trying to market itself as pleasurable birth control but by its own disclaimer doesn't actually prevent pregnancy. This seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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So essentially this is a product trying to market itself as pleasurable birth control but by its own disclaimer doesn't actually prevent pregnancy. This seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I'd give it a whirl.
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I'd give it a whirl.
The lawsuit or the urethra sticker?
Also, I think this belongs in the doom thread.
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Typing from Savannah, GA.
A go figure for MUScoop. On the way down yesterday while driving the half hour before and after Fayetteville, NC, I spotted 5+ billboards with Marcus Leomonis and ads for The Profit. Must be popular there?
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Typing from Savannah, GA.
A go figure for MUScoop. On the way down yesterday while driving the half hour before and after Fayetteville, NC, I spotted 5+ billboards with Marcus Leomonis and ads for The Profit. Must be popular there?
He is on the side of the city buses in Chicago.
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For creating such an amazing thread, I'm surprised by how little Tower has posted on here.
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Typing from Savannah, GA.
A go figure for MUScoop. On the way down yesterday while driving the half hour before and after Fayetteville, NC, I spotted 5+ billboards with Marcus Leomonis and ads for The Profit. Must be popular there?
Has become very very popular on national TV and it is even on the international version of the History channel.
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NM
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That's what I'm talkin about. +1
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For creating such an amazing thread, I'm surprised by how little Tower has posted on here.
NM
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You know what? Good idea. A cocktail might be a good idea this evening.
This is the greatest cocktail book I have ever read. I have given it away as a gift multiple times, and my copy is dog-eared and well loved. It's my cocktail Bible.
https://www.amazon.com/12-Bottle-Bar-Bottles-Cocktails/dp/076117494X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501877383&sr=8-1&keywords=12+bottle+bar
No, you don't need to start with all twelve bottles, nor limit yourself to 12. Pick your favorite booze and then try a drink that's either sweet, sour, or strong. Expand from there.
PS - Among our friends, I am known for making punch and bringing it to parties. A quality punch is phenomenal for a social gathering, and I'm not talking about the kind of garbage wop we used to drink back in the day. The book is worth it for the punch recipes alone.
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Typing from Savannah, GA.
A go figure for MUScoop. On the way down yesterday while driving the half hour before and after Fayetteville, NC, I spotted 5+ billboards with Marcus Leomonis and ads for The Profit. Must be popular there?
Love Savannah. We got married there. Highly recommend Moon River for beers and Vic's for dinner. Check out the Squares and Forsyth Park. Lots of good photo ops.
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What in holy hell.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/03/should-you-seal-your-penis-shut-jiftip-sticker-during-sex-its-risky-doctor-says/535588001/
I like the value pack from Costco . They have multiple varieties .
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Love Savannah. We got married there. Highly recommend Moon River for beers and Vic's for dinner. Check out the Squares and Forsyth Park. Lots of good photo ops.
It's my 4th visit here in the last 6 years. Moon River is fantastic. Dinner is always at The Pirates House.. The house its in is written into Treasure Island by RLS.
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Ran the rug doctor today for 5 hours. Always amazed at the crap that comes out of the carpets. Yuk.
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Ran the rug doctor today for 5 hours. Always amazed at the crap that comes out of the carpets. Yuk.
Yep.
My wife likes to clean floors, rugs and such a lot, so we have our own home machine. Even with frequent cleaning of carpets that look clean to me, the water gets disgusting pretty fast.
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Yep.
My wife likes to clean floors, rugs and such a lot, so we have our own home machine. Even with frequent cleaning of carpets that look clean to me, the water gets disgusting pretty fast.
We have a home machine, but I try to avoid using rug shampoo, because any detergent left in the carpet actually attracts dirt. I use 1 cup of white vinegar per gallon of water.
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Don't y'all just leave it for da cleanin' help ta due, hey?
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We have a home machine, but I try to avoid using rug shampoo, because any detergent left in the carpet actually attracts dirt. I use 1 cup of white vinegar per gallon of water.
Yep, my wife does that too. Sometimes she'll even use just water and still get a bunch of gunk out.
About the only time she uses any sort of shampoo is when there's a stain that won't come out.
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We've got the home machine too.
Vinegar, eh. Does your house smell like salad?
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Ever have the machine dispense from the bottom when using the hand arrachment? Couldn't figure that out....happened twice when doing the steps.
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Ever have the machine dispense from the bottom when using the hand arrachment? Couldn't figure that out....happened twice when doing the steps.
Our vacuum cleaner is like that. I swear there's no good way to remove the disposal canister because it opens upside down. I have to take it outside to change it, and even then end up with a pile of hair and dust all over the deck.
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We've got the home machine too.
Vinegar, eh. Does your house smell like salad?
What is this salad of which you speak?
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We'll let 'never answer that one.
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Yep.
My wife likes to clean floors, rugs and such a lot, so we have our own home machine. Even with frequent cleaning of carpets that look clean to me, the water gets disgusting pretty fast.
This is why Japanese remove their shoes at the door.
White people are disgusting.
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We've got the home machine too.
Vinegar, eh. Does your house smell like salad?
For a couple of hours after the cleaning, it does, but not after the carpet is completely dry.
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This is why Japanese remove their shoes at the door.
White people are disgusting.
We always remove our shoes at the door... and we aren't Japanese.
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We always remove our shoes at the door... and we aren't Japanese.
You misunderstood, Keefe is saying that you become Japanese when you remove your shoes at the door.
Need to put your shoes back on? Prepare to be a dirty white person again.
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You misunderstood, Keefe is saying that your become Japanese when you remove your shoes at the door.
Need to put your shoes back on? Prepare to be a dirty white person again.
ありがとう
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ありがとう
あなたは素敵なつま先を持っている
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あなたは素敵なつま先を持っている
Speaking of Japanese, anyone try these new Ramen places popping up all over Milwaukee?
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We always remove our shoes at the door... and we aren't Japanese.
dog relieves himself
gaijin saunters down the road
brown stain on carpet
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Speaking of Japanese, anyone try these new Ramen places popping up all over Milwaukee?
Tochi was very good when it was in Shorewood, I assume the quality remains at their new location if anyone wants to trek to West Bend.
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Speaking of Japanese, anyone try these new Ramen places popping up all over Milwaukee?
The inventor of instant ramen was Momofuku Ando. I made a pilgrimage to an Osaka museum dedicated to his greatness.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/03/momofuku-ando-instant-ramen-cup-noodles-inventor-japan-taiwan-nissan-foods-google-doodle/
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There are only five things a good Wingman should ever say:
1. Winchester
2. Bingo
3. Lead you’re on fire
4. I'll buy this round
5. I’ll take the fat one
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My daughter survived college on instant ramen and bubble tea.
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There are only five things a good Wingman should ever say:
5. I’ll take the fat one
I hope you're not smoking those blunts in the cockpit.
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Tochi was very good when it was in Shorewood, I assume the quality remains at their new location if anyone wants to trek to West Bend.
i loved their shorewood location...west bend still very good.
late night ramen at ardent...now red light ramen....also very good.
not like the ramen we lived on in college.
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The closest Arby's is just 10 minutes from my house.
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The closest Arby's is just 10 minutes from my house.
I honestly laughed out loud.
Believed it or not, Arby's used to cut the meat for their sandwiches off of an actual roast round of beef! One of only a precious few things that actually were better back in the day.
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What's up this weekend? Pissing away the few precious moments you have left? You'll never be this young again. Piss that youth away at Arbys
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I honestly laughed out loud.
Believed it or not, Arby's used to cut the meat for their sandwiches off of an actual roast round of beef! One of only a precious few things that actually were better back in the day.
Arby's horsey sauce made it one heck off a sandwich
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We sold our house and we're moving 1000 miles away next week. I don't know where we're going to live, though.
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We sold our house and we're moving 1000 miles away next week. I don't know where we're going to live, though.
To assist in your search for a new home http://locations.arbys.com/search.html (http://locations.arbys.com/search.html)
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To assist in your search for a new home http://locations.arbys.com/search.html (http://locations.arbys.com/search.html)
You won.
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I've always felt the student section should mix it up a little.
Every once in a while, change the chant to "We Have... (clap clap) The Meats"
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We sold our house and we're moving 1000 miles away next week. I don't know where we're going to live, though.
So you're just driving 1000 miles in some random direction and seeing where you end up? Bold move, Cotton.
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The kicker is, he's moving 1000 miles further away from Marquette. I've been trying to explain how he's dooming his family and children, but he's resisting my wisdom.
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We sold our house and we're moving 1000 miles away next week. I don't know where we're going to live, though.
Boise is nice this time of year.
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The kicker is, he's moving 1000 miles further away from Marquette. I've been trying to explain how he's dooming his family and children, but he's resisting my wisdom.
That does improve his chances of being at an MU tournament game. Even if we are a high seed.
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Boise is nice this time of year.
Really enjoyed Boise for the tournament a few years back.
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That does improve his chances of being at an MU tournament game. Even if we are a high seed.
Will he get to see The Legend coach in person???
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Really enjoyed Boise for the tournament a few years back.
Well, yeah.
(http://i.imgur.com/DhXTpzW.jpg)
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Well, yeah.
(http://i.imgur.com/DhXTpzW.jpg)
An Arby's on Milwaukee Street? It's destiny!
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Really enjoyed Boise for the tournament a few years back.
So did I. Surprisingly nice city.
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So you're just driving 1000 miles in some random direction and seeing where you end up? Bold move, Cotton.
Sugar is a man driven by analytics. Pokémon Go was his go to decision point, I am sure.
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The kicker is, he's moving 1000 miles further away from Marquette. I've been trying to explain how he's dooming his family and children, but he's resisting my wisdom.
Farther is an indication of distance. Further is used for... not distance (I think).
Example: We are moving 1000 miles farther from Marquette. We're moving the family further into doom.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3og0IMJcSI8p6hYQXS/giphy.gif)
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Farther is an indication of distance. Further is used for... not distance (I think).
Example: We are moving 1000 miles farther from Marquette. We're moving the family further into doom.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3og0IMJcSI8p6hYQXS/giphy.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/v/5cuzj7i1Whs
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A cow is a biological machine invented by humans to turn grass into steak.
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My dyslectic friend went to the Brewers game to buy a hot god
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My dyslectic friend went to the Brewers game to buy a hot god
A dyslexic atheist with insomnia stays up all night wondering if there is a dog.
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A cow is a biological machine invented by humans to turn grass into steak.
Whoa there, tiger.
Anyone who quotes my man Neil must attribute!
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Stan - Gran Cayman. Suspecious I say...
https://twitter.com/mucoachjohnson/status/894992193731035137
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Stan - Gran Cayman. Suspecious I say...
https://twitter.com/mucoachjohnson/status/894992193731035137
Probably making a withdrawal from that secret offshore account to build the new on-campus arena.
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Stan - Gran Cayman. Suspecious I say...
https://twitter.com/mucoachjohnson/status/894992193731035137
Ah...the "Joey Trip"
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Warriorchick provides an excellent reminder of why I no longer use Facebook.
The only thing I miss are the birthday notifications.
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Facebook is simply a mirror reflecting the human toxicity in your life.
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Facebook is simply conceit expressed by 0's and 1's.
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Facebook is ubiquitous, but has a reputation for low-quality content. It's become the Walmart of social media.
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Facebook is ubiquitous, but has a reputation for low-quality content. It's become the Walmart of social media.
So what is the Neiman Marcus of social media?
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So what is the Neiman Marcus of social media?
Scoop, duh
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So what is the Neiman Marcus of social media?
Reddit.
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Scoop, duh
Yah, duh.
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Scoop, duh
As much as I love it, Scoop is more the Buck Bradley's of social media.
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Complete this sentence:
"Twitter is the ________ of social media."
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Had a darned good apple today for lunch....Pink Lady. Right up there with the Honeycrisp. Not nearly as expensive too!
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I'm down wit pink ladies, hey?
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Complete this sentence:
"Twitter is the ________ of social media."
4ever
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I'm down wit pink ladies, hey?
Right on que
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4ever
I see what you did there....
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Had a darned good apple today for lunch....Pink Lady. Right up there with the Honeycrisp.
Blasphemy
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Complete this sentence:
"Twitter is the ________ of social media."
twitter
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Blasphemy
Agreed. A pink lady is similar to a honey crisp in the same way that a sirloin is similar to a Japanese wagyu ribeye.
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Had a darned good apple today for lunch....Pink Lady. Right up there with the Honeycrisp. Not nearly as expensive too!
Waiting for the SweeTangos to come out. Pricey, but exceptional. Another University of Minnesota creation.
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Royal Gala or GTFO
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Honeycrisp. Not even close.
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Ride or die Honeycrisp.
Pink lady is super crunchy and delicious though. It's the perfect non honeycrisp apple. Especially if you don't wanna pay the $3 per lb for honeycrisp.
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In other news I just cut a bunch of Jalapeños and scratched the inside of my nose... so the next 30-45 min should be a great time. :o
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Ride or die Honeycrisp.
Pink lady is super crunchy and delicious though. It's the perfect non honeycrisp apple. Especially if you don't wanna pay the $3 per lb for honeycrisp.
Ding ding ding
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Ding ding ding
Jonagold or GTFO.
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In other news I just cut a bunch of Jalapeños and scratched the inside of my nose... so the next 30-45 min should be a great time. :o
Just be glad you didn't rub your eyes too....
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Just be glad you didn't rub your eyes too....
Or take a leak.
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Just be glad you didn't rub your eyes too....
Or scratch yourself, ask DUNKS about it.
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Don't sleep on Jazz apples!
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About this Dark Web thingee...JayBee will you be covering this in the alt media "Late Night Hoops"? Is this just a marketing ploy?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4207316/chloe-ayling-model-kidnap-italy-black-death-dark-web/
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The apple debate reminds me of a German foreign exchange student who stayed with us several years ago. When we took her to our local apple orchard in the fall, she was amazed with the apple selection. We asked which kind they had back home, and she answered "red and green."
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The apple debate reminds me of a German foreign exchange student who stayed with us several years ago. When we took her to our local apple orchard in the fall, she was amazed with the apple selection. We asked which kind they had back home, and she answered "red and green."
That is because Germans only see things as black or white.
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That is because Germans only see things as black or white.
Haha good grief
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I hope we can all agree that Red Delicious are the worst. Who buys those tasteless things?
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In other news I just cut a bunch of Jalapeños and scratched the inside of my nose... so the next 30-45 min should be a great time. :o
Just don't scratch yo vertical smile. Wood be lots worse, ai na?
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I hope we can all agree that Red Delicious are the worst. Who buys those tasteless things?
Yep. Growing up, I thought that was the only variety of red apples.
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I hope we can all agree that Red Delicious are the worst. Who buys those tasteless things?
Yep. Balls of Styrofoam with a red peel.
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Yep. Balls of Styrofoam with a red peel.
A number years ago a neighbor and I took our kids apple picking and as soon as we got there, she wanted to head straight to the Red Delicious section of the orchard.
I was like, "I'm sorry, we can't be friends anymore."`
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My favorite apple is AAPL, which continues to perform well for many Scoopers except one.
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In other news I just cut a bunch of Jalapeños and scratched the inside of my nose... so the next 30-45 min should be a great time. :o
Just be glad you didn't rub your eyes too....
Or take a leak.
Or scratch yourself, ask DUNKS about it.
Come on - it's just a jalapeño not a habanero or ghost pepper
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That is because Germans only see things as black or white.
I thought this was interesting. For the record, I also do not think Germans are funny. (HT: Marginal Revolution)
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20170802-why-people-think-germans-arent-funny
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Don't sleep on Jazz apples!
Oh please. Might as well tuck into a pile of mushy Macintosh's while you're at it.
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Oh please. Might as well tuck into a pile of mushy Macintosh's while you're at it.
If you don't know anything about apples, just say so.
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Thank God, finally comparing Apples to Apples. So refreshing.
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I hope we can all agree that Red Delicious are the worst. Who buys those tasteless things?
People who make fruit baskets.
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Oh please. Might as well tuck into a pile of mushy Macintosh's while you're at it.
I love McIntoshs early in the season if you can get them with a firmer skin. Otherwise I go with the tartness of a Granny Smith.
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Thank God, finally comparing Apples to Apples. So refreshing.
Honestly, I almost spit part of the bite of a golden delicious apple on my desk when I read this. That is not a joke. I was eating an apple while reading about people's favorite apples... Good Lord, how has my life come to this point?
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No love for galas?
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Honeycrisp is the only apple worth eating in it's unprepared state.
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Recommended: Apple Cider Donuts
http://www.coldhollow.com/about/
Bonus: The Ben & Jerry's factory is just down the road
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Honeycrisp is the only apple worth eating in it's unprepared state.
They're good, but not THAT good -- too expensive! My wife begs the differ so naturally we only buy them.
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They're good, but not THAT good -- too expensive! My wife begs the differ so naturally we only buy them.
Agreed. They're really good but I wait for them to go on sale. Same with Jazz apples.
Pink ladies, Gala, and Fuji are all great apples at about half the price.
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Fuji all day.
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After years of eating Chicago Taffy Apples I have become a Granny Smith addict. It just makes my face hurt as well as the Lip Smacking Favor.
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After years of eating Chicago Taffy Apples I have become a Granny Smith addict. It just makes my face hurt as well as the Lip Smacking Favor.
Ahh, the good old Taffy Apple sale at school. Nothing beat the Affy Tapple brand.
Speaking of things that are sour, anybody remember War Heads?
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Agreed. They're really good but I wait for them to go on sale. Same with Jazz apples.
Pink ladies, Gala, and Fuji are all great apples at about half the price.
Ding ding ding!
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So, today for lunch got some chicken to go from Cub foods. Got their grilled 10 piece and split it with some one and had left overs. It's basically oven baked chicken...no breading and good spice mix on the skin. $6.99, and it was delicious! Hell of a deal. Screw the Colonel.
What did you have for lunch?????
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Ahh, the good old Taffy Apple sale at school. Nothing beat the Affy Tapple brand.
Speaking of things that are sour, anybody remember War Heads?
Hell, I am old enough to remember when penny candy actually cost a penny.
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While any right minded person acknowledges the honeycrisp as superior to all other apples, the Braeburn is obviously the next best alternative. Obviously.
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Thank God, finally comparing Apples to Apples. So refreshing.
I don't know, some of it is comparing apples to Apple.
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No love for galas?
I'm with you
Royal Gala or GTFO
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While any right minded person acknowledges the honeycrisp as superior to all other apples, the Braeburn is obviously the next best alternative. Obviously.
So you like Braeburn but not Jazz apples? If you do, I find that a bit surprising since a Jazz apple is a cross between Braeburn and Gala.
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So you like Braeburn but not Jazz apples? If you do, I find that a bit surprising since a Jazz apple is a cross between Braeburn and Gala.
My response to you was heavily in invisible teal. But I did like your comeback.
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I don't know, some of it is comparing apples to Apple.
I Bow to you. can't argue that.
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All this talk about apples has me wanting an apple pie.
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I'm with you
Mea cupla. I can't believe I read through this thread so quickly I missed your support for Galas.
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I hope we can all agree that Red Delicious are the worst. Who buys those tasteless things?
Manzana Pinata...
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All this talk about apples has me wanting an apple pie.
Warm apple pie....
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Warm apple pie....
Easy there Jim...
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Easy there Jim...
Ever since I first watched that movie I have wondered how many people decided to try that after watching the movie.
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Ever since I first watched that movie I have wondered how many people decided to try that after watching the movie.
If you want a truly authentic experience, I hear that the pie was from Costco.
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Coach K now officially to have knee surgery. Let the rumors begin.
https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/895733287737577472
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Warm apple pie....
(http://blog.hwtm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/hotapplepie_cider.jpg)
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Coach K now officially to have knee surgery. Let the rumors begin.
https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/895733287737577472
Doesn't he usually wait until his team is struggling to have surgery?
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Rockin' the Pink Lady in my lunch box today.
Easy, 'Never.
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Doesn't he usually wait until his team is struggling to have surgery?
Maybe the first three practices weren't going well.
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Rockin' the Pink Lady in my lunch box today.
Easy, 'Never.
Can I Venmo a few bucks to ya so you can get a paleo lunch, hey?
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VENMO? Gosh dang Hipsters...
Going trap shooting this morning. Pretty exciting stuff.
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VENMO? Gosh dang Hipsters...
Going trap shooting this morning. Pretty exciting stuff.
So did ya kill any traps?
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So did ya kill any traps?
Killed 76% of the fake trap pigeons.if they were red Delicious apples I woulda killed 100% of them. Those filthy disgusting apples.
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Killed 76% of the fake trap pigeons.if they were red Delicious apples I woulda killed 100% of them. Those filthy disgusting apples.
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Whoever named the red delicious apple had a flair for the ironic....
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Whoever named the red delicious apple had a flair for the ironic....
Well, they were half right....
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(http://)
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"The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious"
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/the-evil-reign-of-the-red-delicious/379892/
"His words contain the paradox of the Red Delicious: alluring yet undesirable, the most produced and arguably the least popular apple in the United States. It lurks in desolation. Bumped around the bottom of lunch bags as schoolchildren rummage for chips or shrink-wrapped Rice Krispies treats. Waiting by the last bruised banana in a roadside gas station, the only produce for miles. Left untouched on hospital trays, forlorn in the fruit bowl at hotel breakfast buffets, bereft in nests of gift-basket raffia."
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"The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious"
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/the-evil-reign-of-the-red-delicious/379892/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEeFNvvR-ng (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEeFNvvR-ng)
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Killed 76% of the fake trap pigeons.if they were red Delicious apples I woulda killed 100% of them. Those filthy disgusting apples.
An apple a day keeps the doctor away. Laughter is the best medicine. Scoop is often funnier than insightful. This takes the apple cheese cake.
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Speaking of ciders (Redd's Apple), let's get to the core to the of issue: Week day drinking, yeah or nay?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/health/drinking-alcoholism-study-trnd/index.html
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"The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious"
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/the-evil-reign-of-the-red-delicious/379892/
"His words contain the paradox of the Red Delicious: alluring yet undesirable, the most produced and arguably the least popular apple in the United States. It lurks in desolation. Bumped around the bottom of lunch bags as schoolchildren rummage for chips or shrink-wrapped Rice Krispies treats. Waiting by the last bruised banana in a roadside gas station, the only produce for miles. Left untouched on hospital trays, forlorn in the fruit bowl at hotel breakfast buffets, bereft in nests of gift-basket raffia."
And it seems whenever you find fruit in an airport, it's a red delicious apple.... :'(
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Speaking of ciders (Redd's Apple), let's get to the core to the of issue: Week day drinking, yeah or nay?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/health/drinking-alcoholism-study-trnd/index.html
Perhaps, but the story fails to tell you how many are thriving.
Crispin is the only cider I've found that doesn't lead to gut-rot. Has more of a wine profile than the others which I find way too sugary.
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Perhaps, but the story fails to tell you how many are thriving.
Crispin is the only cider I've found that doesn't lead to gut-rot. Has more of a wine profile than the others which I find way too sugary.
I'm a huge cider drinker... Fun fact: Ciders are technically a wine because it is made from a fruit. So you're not wrong, it definitely has a wine profile!
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Perhaps, but the story fails to tell you how many are thriving.
Crispin is the only cider I've found that doesn't lead to gut-rot. Has more of a wine profile than the others which I find way too sugary.
Big fan of the Crispin Pear Cider.
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Big fan of the Crispin Pear Cider.
Agreed. I find Pacific Pear and Brut to be their best offerings. Not to diminish their Honey Crisp given that its namesake is the king of all apples to those who aren't damned.
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While at the store this morning buying Braeburn apples, I saw a product called a Grapple. It is billed as a grape flavored apple.
It sounds undesirable to me. Any experience out there?
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While at the store this morning buying Braeburn apples, I saw a product called a Grapple. It is billed as a grape flavored apple.
It sounds undesirable to me. Any experience out there?
Sounds kinda strange. If I want something that tastes like grapes...I usually buy grapes.
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While at the store this morning buying Braeburn apples, I saw a product called a Grapple. It is billed as a grape flavored apple.
It sounds undesirable to me. Any experience out there?
This sounds similar to the Crapple (cranberry flavored apple) which didn't really take off for some reason...
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This sounds similar to the Crapple (cranberry flavored apple) which didn't really take off for some reason...
Tasted like crapple.
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Tasted like crapple.
I was never a fan of crappie. Is it the Red Delicious of pan fish?
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I hope we can all agree that Red Delicious are the worst. Who buys those tasteless things?
Agree. Why do people buy? Not tasty.
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Recommended: Apple Cider Donuts
http://www.coldhollow.com/about/
Bonus: The Ben & Jerry's factory is just down the road
Every orchard in Connecticut has their own version of the apple cider donut.
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Agree. Why do people buy? Not tasty.
I think it's two main factors: familiarity and price.
Years ago, there were far fewer varieties available in our local supermarket, but red delicious was always there. I'm betting that some people just buy them because that's what they know. Kinda reminds me of my father-in-law, who long claimed to hate many ethnic foods, like Thai and Indian. When I asked him why he hated them his response was something like "I heard they were too spicy." He had obviously never tried either. We took him out to try both, and after initial reluctance, he discovered he likes both. :)
And cost - at least where I live, other varieties also tend to be pricier. I'm guessing people who look at price above all tend to gravitate toward red delicious.
There are probably a few people who have tried and could afford a number of varieties and actually prefer a red delicious, but I find that hard to fathom…
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Boone's Farm anyone?
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Pagan Pink and Purple Jesus, ai na?
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I wish you could record silence and then play it over speakers at full volume to make a room quiet
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I wish you could record silence and then play it over speakers at full volume to make a room quiet
But then how would you hear if a tree fell?
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I am LOCKED and LOADED for the week.
Zesty and tart. Yep, that's me!
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Fuji all day.
I climbed Mt Fuji. Not that difficult but the sunrise is stunning.
(https://mytokyoguide.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/sept-121.jpg)
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Warm apple pie....
Norske Nook apple pie, evening of course, is best served steaming hot. The aroma alone is enough to lay bare a man's soul.
But the real thrill is sinking one's mouth into that viscous goo. By all that is holy there is nothing as wonderful as hot apple pie served up fresh at the Norske Nook.
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Screw the Colonel.
WTFO??
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Boone's Farm anyone?
did drink as a soph in HS
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Made an apple pie
Apples I used were Fuji
Next up Mt. Fuji
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the savory taste
of steaming hot apple pie
sustained the species
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did drink as a soph in HS
tickle pink was good going down, but not so good coming back up
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tickle pink was good going down, but not so good coming back up
Tequila is the worst coming back up. Had a bad experience decades ago, and still won't touch it if it isn't in a margarita....
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I am that way with Jack. Bad experience the first time I drank it (doing shots of Jack on St Patrick's day 1985) and now I can't even smell it without it turning my stomach.
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Southern Comfort
*shudder*
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I am that way with Jack. Bad experience the first time I drank it (doing shots of Jack on St Patrick's day 1985) and now I can't even smell it without it turning my stomach.
Tequila Rose for me. Was out drinking pretty much everything under the sun one night and finished the evening with a shot of Tequila Rose. It all came back up, and since then, I can't smell it without getting queasy. Same goes for Strawberry Quik, which smells identical. Vile stuff.
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the savory taste
of steaming hot apple pie
sustained the species
I prefer chocolate cream pie
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Duke get Richer.
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Duke get Richer.
Their odds on winning the ship just dropped to 3/1.
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Their odds on winning the ship just dropped to 3/1.
Any idea what they were before?
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Their odds on winning the ship just dropped to 3/1.
Puts a lot of pressure on K's orthopedic surgeon...
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In my dream this morning .. I was watching a football game .. the Bears versus someone.
The Bears were up by a point and had the ball with 5 seconds left, all they had to do was kneel down on the ball and it was over .. but their QB was 100 foot tall guy .. it was Bob Newhart.
I mean, 100 foot tall Bob Newhart is old, but he could just walk to the endzone and score with 11 guys on his legs. Or kneel down on the ball, either way.
Instead, Bob passes the ball, is intercepted, and the other team scores to win the game.
the end.
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So this is the new thing huh? Now not only can players be one-and-done, but now they reclassify, skip summer workouts and join in September. So Bagley will be on Duke's campus about seven months at most?
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Any idea what they were before?
7/1
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In my dream this morning .. I was watching a football game .. the Bears versus someone.
The Bears were up by a point and had the ball with 5 seconds left, all they had to do was kneel down on the ball and it was over .. but their QB was 100 foot tall guy .. it was Bob Newhart.
I mean, 100 foot tall Bob Newhart is old, but he could just walk to the endzone and score with 11 guys on his legs. Or kneel down on the ball, either way.
Instead, Bob passes the ball, is intercepted, and the other team scores to win the game.
the end.
The only Bob Newhart related dreams I have are about Suzanne Pleshette.
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The only Bob Newhart related dreams I have are about Suzanne Pleshette.
She gowne
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Stop me if you've heard this one before:
A young, untested D-1 basketball team from Wisconsin heads overseas to play local professional teams. First game, they trail for three quarters and pull it out in the fourth quarter for a 10 point win. Fans immediately proclaim them an automatic Final Four team for the upcoming season.
Can't help but hope this story has a familiar ending as well.
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Stop me if you've heard this one before:
A young, untested D-1 basketball team from Wisconsin heads overseas to play local professional teams. First game, they trail for three quarters and pull it out in the fourth quarter for a 10 point win. Fans immediately proclaim them an automatic Final Four team for the upcoming season.
Can't help but hope this story has a familiar ending as well.
I miss Thomas Bilde.
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Von Trier's circlin' da drain again, ai na?
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Von Trier's circlin' da drain again, ai na?
I downed many a Weissbier there back in the day....
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I miss Thomas Bilde.
https://twitter.com/bildetv2?lang=en
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I wish I had a Fleet-A-Pita truck.
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In barçelona right now. They have bars with these things called Pinxtos (pinchos) for 1€. Foods that have toothpicks in them and you just grab them as you're hungry and at the end the bartender counts the toothpicks and that's how much you pay. It's fantastic. Why does America not have these?
Aside from the obvious that everyone would eat and then never pay.
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In barçelona right now. They have bars with these things called Pinxtos (pinchos) for 1€. Foods that have toothpicks in them and you just grab them as you're hungry and at the end the bartender counts the toothpicks and that's how much you pay. It's fantastic. Why does America not have these?
Aside from the obvious that everyone would eat and then never pay.
I believe you answered your own question, my friend.
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I believe you answered your own question, my friend.
Indeed. We live in the land of dine and dash....
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Indeed. We live in the land of dine and dash....
And the land of "If I can get away with it, I will".
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And the land of "If I can get away with it, I will".
God Bless America. And O.J.
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In barçelona right now. They have bars with these things called Pinxtos (pinchos) for 1€. Foods that have toothpicks in them and you just grab them as you're hungry and at the end the bartender counts the toothpicks and that's how much you pay. It's fantastic. Why does America not have these?
Aside from the obvious that everyone would eat and then never pay.
There is a great restaurant in Seattle's Belltown with that name. We will stop there on occasion and have never been wrong.
http://www.pintxoseattle.com/
In Japan, yakitori ya have street front counters where one eats their fill of a variety of yakitori. When finished the master counts the sticks and you pay accordingly.
(https://backpackerlee.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/yakitoritokyo.jpg?w=768&h=514)
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In Jamaica the bartender puts the Red Stripe bottle cap in front of you, before you leave he will tally the number of bottle caps to determine your tab.
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In barçelona right now. They have bars with these things called Pinxtos (pinchos) for 1€. Foods that have toothpicks in them and you just grab them as you're hungry and at the end the bartender counts the toothpicks and that's how much you pay. It's fantastic. Why does America not have these?
Aside from the obvious that everyone would eat and then never pay.
Be safe in Barcelona.....
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Be safe in Barcelona.....
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Prayers.
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My family was discussing something similar last night. 6 months ago when we made vacation plans we offered the kids their choice beach time in Florida or Charlottesville to revisit Monticello, visit UVA and visit Shenendoah NP to walk a trail. They picked beach else we would have been in Charlottesville the middle of last week.
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Thank goodness kids are more interested in tans than history!
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My family was discussing something similar last night. 6 months ago when we made vacation plans we offered the kids their choice beach time in Florida or Charlottesville to revisit Monticello, visit UVA and visit Shenendoah NP to walk a trail. They picked beach else we would have been in Charlottesville the middle of last week.
Good call by the kids.
True story: Back in 1976, my family was just leaving Philadelphia as we heard about this new thing that had just broken out in town called Legionnaires' Disease. Fortunately, we weren't affected. :-\
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In barçelona right now. They have bars with these things called Pinxtos (pinchos) for 1€. Foods that have toothpicks in them and you just grab them as you're hungry and at the end the bartender counts the toothpicks and that's how much you pay. It's fantastic. Why does America not have these?
Aside from the obvious that everyone would eat and then never pay.
We have those in PR meat seafood usually street vendors. Yes Pinchos which means pinching obviously, but really they are kebabs.
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I no longer want to be buried in Arby's sauce.
https://www.popsugar.com/food/Burger-King-Cheesy-Tots-43895581
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I no longer want to be buried in Arby's sauce.
https://www.popsugar.com/food/Burger-King-Cheesy-Tots-43895581
Yesss!
I don't normally buy food at BK, but the last time these were available, I would drive thru and get an order on my way to work almost every morning.
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I no longer want to be buried in Arby's sauce.
https://www.popsugar.com/food/Burger-King-Cheesy-Tots-43895581
Heresy. There is nothing "cheesy" about Velveeta.
May god have no mercy on your grave.
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I no longer want to be buried in Arby's sauce.
https://www.popsugar.com/food/Burger-King-Cheesy-Tots-43895581
Had them on a road trip last time they were available and honestly, I'd rather eat a red delicious.
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In barçelona right now. They have bars with these things called Pinxtos (pinchos) for 1€. Foods that have toothpicks in them and you just grab them as you're hungry and at the end the bartender counts the toothpicks and that's how much you pay. It's fantastic. Why does America not have these?
Aside from the obvious that everyone would eat and then never pay.
Understanding you may be knee deep right now, drop us a line to let us know you're ok.
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The Clemson, Arizona and Oregon State basketball teams were all staying in the same hotel where this happened in Barcelona.
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Thank goodness kids are more interested in tans than history!
That and we visited Charlottesville 5 years ago. Tur story: Our family photo from Monticello ended up on our Christmas card. My wife had to spend the next few months after Christmas explaining to family back in Poland that this was NOT our new house and we did not move.
Body boarding in the Atlantic for a few days definitely had much more appeal!
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The Clemson, Arizona and Oregon State basketball teams were all staying in the same hotel where this happened in Barcelona.
Stan retweeted they're all safe
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Yesss!
I don't normally buy food at BK, but the last time these were available, I would drive thru and get an order on my way to work almost every morning.
"Honey? Have you seen my spandex? I am headed over to The King for some cheesy tots on my way to work..."
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/86/19/90/861990dcafcafbd0330af980e8d61e11--beautiful-curves-sexy-curves.jpg)
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That and we visited Charlottesville 5 years ago. Tur story: Our family photo from Monticello ended up on our Christmas card. My wife had to spend the next few months after Christmas explaining to family back in Poland that this was NOT our new house and we did not move.
Body boarding in the Atlantic for a few days definitely had much more appeal!
I heard they are razing Monticello. The guy who built it owned slaves, fercrissakes...
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I heard they are razing Monticello. The guy who built it owned slaves, fercrissakes...
I can't imagine you had any malice in your 'joke' but not the right place and not the right time.
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I heard they are razing Monticello. The guy who built it owned slaves, fercrissakes...
This one was for sale locally recently although a bit out of my price range.....
http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-faux-monticello-20141019-story.html
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That and we visited Charlottesville 5 years ago. Tur story: Our family photo from Monticello ended up on our Christmas card. My wife had to spend the next few months after Christmas explaining to family back in Poland that this was NOT our new house and we did not move.
Body boarding in the Atlantic for a few days definitely had much more appeal!
When you paid for your admission, did they still give you your change in $2 bills? I thought that was very cool when I went there awhile back.
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When you paid for your admission, did they still give you your change in $2 bills? I thought that was very cool when I went there awhile back.
My local liquor store still does this. Monticello is one of the best in and near D.C. Attractions. Just the innovations and gardens alone are fascinating.
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"Honey? Have you seen my spandex? I am headed over to The King for some cheesy tots on my way to work..."
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/86/19/90/861990dcafcafbd0330af980e8d61e11--beautiful-curves-sexy-curves.jpg)
From your private photo collection?
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From your private photo collection?
Must be that Dartmouth grad he is always talking about. Note the green shorts.
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This one was for sale locally recently although a bit out of my price range.....
http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-faux-monticello-20141019-story.html
People recognize the name but few comprehend the genius of Thomas Jefferson. Most know he was President or that he authored the Declaration but most Americans have no idea he was an architect, astronomer, educator, and horticulturalist.
Jefferson was the Republic's leading proponent of free and universal public education. He not only founded UVA but ensured that public schools were the norm in the country he helped launch.
He was also a leader in sustainable agricultural practices and popularized the selection and variety of vegetables in the US. His advancements in horticulture improved the diet and health of Americans.
Like many of the Founding Fathers Jefferson was a true Renaissance Man whose acumen, discernment, and will not only forged a completely new political model based on the Rights of Man but contributed greatly to the enrichment of a new society.
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People recognize the name but few comprehend the genius of Thomas Jefferson. Most know he was President or that he authored the Declaration but most Americans have no idea he was an architect, astronomer, educator, and horticulturalist.
Jefferson was the Republic's leading proponent of free and universal public education. He not only founded UVA but ensured that public schools were the norm in the country he helped launch.
He was also a leader in sustrightble agricultural practices and popularized the selection and variety of vegetables in the US. His advancements in horticulture improved the diet and health of Americans.
Like many of the Founding Fathers Jefferson was a true Renaissance Man whose acumen, discernment, and will not only forged a completely new political model based on the Rights of Man but contributed greatly to the enrichment of a new society.
If you haven't read it, I recommend Jefferson's Great Gamble by Charles Cerami regarding the Louisiana Purchase.
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To rub or not to rub?
I am doing a brisket this weekend. I plan on using a vinegar mop as I am smoking it for 12 hours but am torn about making a rub.
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If you haven't read it, I recommend Jefferson's Great Gamble by Charles Cerami regarding the Louisiana Purchase.
Thanks. I will definitely check it out.
ironically, I am a huge fan of both Adams and Jefferson. An astounding partnership.
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. NM, writ small
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Did you have a nice march?
I don't know. You are the white male. You tell me.
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To rub or not to rub?
I am doing a brisket this weekend. I plan on using a vinegar mop as I am smoking it for 12 hours but am torn about making a rub.
Yes to rub. For vinegar mop google Carolina kiss. Consider beef broth for an injection. I like Johnny's concentrate.
You doing a flat, packer, or point?
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My local liquor store still does this. Monticello is one of the best in and near D.C. Attractions. Just the innovations and gardens alone are fascinating.
I honestly didn't realize they still make $2 bills. Can't recall the last time I saw one....
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Yes to rub. For vinegar mop google Carolina kiss. Consider beef broth for an injection. I like Johnny's concentrate.
You doing a flat, packer, or point?
14 pound flat. I will trim off the fat that won't render leaving about 12 pounds.
I usually just hit it with kosher salt and fresh cracked but since I am doing a vinegar based mop I thought I might do a rub.
My Carolina mop is half vinegar and half olive oil/beer with some heat thrown in.
Any secret rubs that would pair?
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If you haven't read it, I recommend Jefferson's Great Gamble by Charles Cerami regarding the Louisiana Purchase.
Agreed. Really good book.
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Add some cayenne, garlic, and brown sugar to what you already have
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BGE?
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I honestly didn't realize they still make $2 bills. Can't recall the last time I saw one....
Still in circulation - believe last printed in early 00's. Not highly demanded - clearly.
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I can't imagine you had any malice in your 'joke' but not the right place and not the right time.
Not the right time? The historic statues will be gone of we don't stop the nonsense NOW!
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To rub or not to rub?
I am doing a brisket this weekend. I plan on using a vinegar mop as I am smoking it for 12 hours but am torn about making a rub.
I'll vote no rub from my experience.
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Yo gang. All is crazy here in Barcelona. We are staying 2 blocks from where it happened and were about a block from the Rambla when the van drove down the middle of the street (which is essentially Barcelonas Broadway). Pretty crazy to see and super sad. We are A-OK! Hilarious messages in this thread though! Giving me some light reading on the train!
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Not the right time? The historic statues will be gone of we don't stop the nonsense NOW!
Actually, I think it is just the statues of the guys that killed American soldiers that people want to get rid of.
Like the guy who swore an oath to defend the country and the Constitution while at West Point, but then decided he'd rather lead an effort to destroy the country he swore to defend. Move the traitors to a museum or melt them down.
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Actually, I think it is just the statues of the guys that killed American soldiers that people want to get rid of.
Like the guy who swore an oath to defend the country and the Constitution while at West Point, but then decided he'd rather lead an effort to destroy the country he swore to defend. Move the traitors to a museum or melt them down.
yeah, that's what all the hate groups do-ruin and destroy monuments and statues that make them feel a little uncomfortable. now if you were to pose the question to the people-over 60% want to keep them, less than 30% want to criminally damage them
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Always use a rub. Sauce is for yankees and carpetbaggers. It ruins the meat. Good call on the beef broth injection.
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Probably to the surprise of many here I actually support the statue staying up. I think its important to acknowledge the sins of our past and have them out in the open so we can learn from them. My American history classes were criminally whitewashed up until my junior year of high school. I was fortunate enough to have a teacher who included lessons on such atrocities as the "reeducation" of Native Americans, Japanese Internment, and the Annexation of Hawaii.
Now I do think the plaque with the statue needs to be one that educates on the past, not praises a traitor. I also agree that the park needed to be renamed. You only name parks after people you want to honor.
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Monuments to treason. Rock on.
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If the goal is to remember the past - even those who violated the law and killed American citizens - we should probably put a Timothy McVeigh statue up as well. I'm sure the history buffs would be ok with that…
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Speaking of fast food breakfast, don't sleep on Taco Bell. Fantastic items there.
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Agreed. Really good book.
What, are there a bunch of colorful pictures in the book??
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As someone who grew up in northern Illinois who's family didn't travel outside of a three state radius, I led a very sheltered childhood in terms of history. Nothing of historical significance took place in my area so the only way to learn about it was hearing it from my teachers and reading it in textbooks. My biggest interest was sports and I liked math and science much more, so history was of little interest to me.
After graduating from MU and starting to travel for work I was able to take side trips to places like Independence Hall and Monticello. It really opened my eyes to the fact that these historical "stories" I was forced to read as a kid were real. The people walked the same floors I was walking. It was absolutely fascinating and made me strongly regret not being able to have the experiences as a kid.
Through other trips, both vacation and work, I've also been to historical sites like the JFK assassination museum, the MLK assassination museum, the Museum of the Salem witch trials and a Civil War era cemetery in Memphis. These brought home that the despicable side of history is just as real and should not be forgotten.
I see some of these statues as reminders of some people who made meaningful contributions to society that still impact our current lives but at the same time were not perfect human beings. Others I see as reminders of wretched people who were still able to rise to various levels of power and leadership. I don't see those as monuments as much as warnings of what could happen again.
I am concerned that if we wipe clean the historical markers that we don't like, all kids are doomed to the historically ignorant childhood I led with little chance to have there eyes opened as adults.
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What a surprise, politics will be the death of this thread ::)
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Probably to the surprise of many here I actually support the statue staying up. I think its important to acknowledge the sins of our past and have them out in the open so we can learn from them. My American history classes were criminally whitewashed up until my junior year of high school. I was fortunate enough to have a teacher who included lessons on such atrocities as the "reeducation" of Native Americans, Japanese Internment, and the Annexation of Hawaii.
Now I do think the plaque with the statue needs to be one that educates on the past, not praises a traitor. I also agree that the park needed to be renamed. You only name parks after people you want to honor.
If you don't want to repeat the mistakes of slavery, then make statues memorializing slaves. Not ones glorifying traitors.
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If you don't want to repeat the mistakes of slavery, then make statues memorializing slaves. Not ones glorifying traitors.
Interesting dilemma: Leave to crumble or restore to remember? We cannot forget history or we will repeat it. Go to Rome and blow up the ancient cities? The Roman Empire were not good people either...less so than the Conderates, in fact. Loonies will always take things to the fringe...with or without statues.
Do you honestly believe those statues "glorify traitors" to 98% of the USA, or are reminders of the worst war in our history, one that is still being fought today?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nuremberg-germanys-dilemma-over-the-nazis-field-of-dreams-a6793276.html
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People should consider the fact that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were not slaveholders. And one cannot discount the fact that state's rights was the predominate issue at play.
Our country was an imperfect union from the start - John Adams made significant moral compromises to effect the sole goal of independence from Great Britain. The history of America through the election of Lincoln hinged on the central question of federal versus state authority.
Were confederate soldiers traitors? Some might judge them as such but I do believe they fought for their conception of what the American Republic was supposed to be. And no less an authority than Lincoln said we were obliged to welcome them back as the American brothers they always were.
People want to eradicate Robert E. Lee from the pages of history but had Virginia not seceded he would have commanded the Union Army. His loyalty, as was the loyalty of almost every American in the antebellum period, was not to the Republic but to their community then state.
Lee was a brilliant field commander whose campaigns are still studied in America's War Colleges (of which I am a graduate.) He served his nation and then his state. We should cherish his greatness while understanding his faults.
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Add some cayenne, garlic, and brown sugar to what you already have
Already in there, brother
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U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section 3: Treason against the United States, Shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
Spin it any way you want. The confederacy committed treason against the US when it waged war. And you can spin state's rights any way you want, but in the end, they committed treason to preserve the institution of slavery. They chose to fight for their slaves and against their country. Anything else, in my opinion, is mealy-mouthed spin and sanitizing history.
Put those statues, erected during the Jim Crow period in our history, in a museum, with long stories explaining their context. Take them out of our public spaces and government buildings.
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Probably to the surprise of many here I actually support the statue staying up. I think its important to acknowledge the sins of our past and have them out in the open so we can learn from them. My American history classes were criminally whitewashed up until my junior year of high school. I was fortunate enough to have a teacher who included lessons on such atrocities as the "reeducation" of Native Americans, Japanese Internment, and the Annexation of Hawaii.
Now I do think the plaque with the statue needs to be one that educates on the past, not praises a traitor. I also agree that the park needed to be renamed. You only name parks after people you want to honor.
There was nothing improper about the Annexation of Hawaii. The prior Kingdom was run in a ruthless and bloody fashion. It all ended up very well for the Hawaiians as they became part of the United States.
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I honestly didn't realize they still make $2 bills. Can't recall the last time I saw one....
I toured the Mint in DC last summer and they said they still print, but no more than once a year.
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People should consider the fact that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were not slaveholders. And one cannot discount the fact that state's rights was the predominate issue at play.
Our country was an imperfect union from the start - John Adams made significant moral compromises to effect the sole goal of independence from Great Britain. The history of America through the election of Lincoln hinged on the central question of federal versus state authority.
Were confederate soldiers traitors? Some might judge them as such but I do believe they fought for their conception of what the American Republic was supposed to be. And no less an authority than Lincoln said we were obliged to welcome them back as the American brothers they always were.
People want to eradicate Robert E. Lee from the pages of history but had Virginia not seceded he would have commanded the Union Army. His loyalty, as was the loyalty of almost every American in the antebellum period, was not to the Republic but to their community then state.
Lee was a brilliant field commander whose campaigns are still studied in America's War Colleges (of which I am a graduate.) He served his nation and then his state. We should cherish his greatness while understanding his faults.
No one will forget the Civil War because Lee isn't glorified with a statue. Read about him as a field commander all you want, but he was a traitor who fought to retain an awful institution. He should not be honored.
And let's remember why these statues were erected in the first place.
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Interesting dilemma: Leave to crumble or restore to remember? We cannot forget history or we will repeat it. Go to Rome and blow up the ancient cities? The Roman Empire were not good people either...less so than the Conderates, in fact. Loonies will always take things to the fringe...with or without statues.
Do you honestly believe those statues "glorify traitors" to 98% of the USA, or are reminders of the worst war in our history, one that is still being fought today?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nuremberg-germanys-dilemma-over-the-nazis-field-of-dreams-a6793276.html
I have spent a lot of time in the South and the majority of statues on town squares are not generals but common soldiers. Anyone who has served in combat and lost comrades knows it is about the men by your side. These statues are not celebrating anything other than the sacrifice and loss experienced during that terrible war.
I was stationed at Spangdahlem where there is a large cemetery for Wehrmacht soldiers killed in combat. Ronald Reagan caused a stir by visiting that cemetery while President. Frankly, I thought it was a magnanimous gesture to underscore the fact that former enemies were now partners in peace.
There are two scenes from the Spielberg series Band of Brothers which captures the magnanimity of America in victory and underscores the bond that only warriors know:
https://www.youtube.com/v/IU8Fv4W-RII
https://www.youtube.com/v/VcMk85ZsBh0
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I remember the scenes. I have a bond with the men I have fought fires with for these 27 years. I get that part of it. I truly do. Here is where I strongly disagree. There is no way to get around the fact that the confederacy attacked and tried to dissolve the USA through secession. Declaring war against the USA is the constitutional definition of treason. By your reasoning, we should have statues of others who have attacked the USA because they bonded with their fellow soldiers. We should put up statues of German, Japanese, Iraqi soldiers who fought against the USA because it wasn't really about ideology for them.
We should remember the confederacy. There should be museums about it, like the Holocaust museum, that really gets deeply into the story, the history, the context, that pulls no punches describing the mindset of the confederacy, both from a state's rights perspective, as well as from a slavery perspective. But these statues should not be in the public square.
Which is why I would never support taking down the statues of the founding fathers. I think that is a red herring of an argument. Our founding fathers were flawed individuals, like the rest of us. It is unfortunate that they kept slaves and compromised on the issue when writing constitution. But their goal was to create this country. The goal of the leaders of the confederacy was to destroy it.
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People should consider the fact that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were not slaveholders. And one cannot discount the fact that state's rights was the predominate issue at play.
Our country was an imperfect union from the start - John Adams made significant moral compromises to effect the sole goal of independence from Great Britain. The history of America through the election of Lincoln hinged on the central question of federal versus state authority.
Were confederate soldiers traitors? Some might judge them as such but I do believe they fought for their conception of what the American Republic was supposed to be. And no less an authority than Lincoln said we were obliged to welcome them back as the American brothers they always were.
People want to eradicate Robert E. Lee from the pages of history but had Virginia not seceded he would have commanded the Union Army. His loyalty, as was the loyalty of almost every American in the antebellum period, was not to the Republic but to their community then state.
Lee was a brilliant field commander whose campaigns are still studied in America's War Colleges (of which I am a graduate.) He served his nation and then his state. We should cherish his greatness while understanding his faults.
Agree totally, Crash. Those who want to judge people from 150, 250 or 2000 years ago without context sadden me. Their moral high horses are unwarranted, IMHO.
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Agree totally, Crash. Those who want to judge people from 150, 250 or 2000 years ago without context sadden me. Their moral high horses are unwarranted, IMHO.
"Judging without context?" They were judged AT THE TIME. And lost a war because of it.
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"Judging without context?" They were judged AT THE TIME. And lost a war because of it.
Yep. And we still have a good idea of that context today.
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Already in there, brother
Send pics. This thread could use some meat porn.
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Thoughts on Taco Bell Baja sauce?
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Agree totally, Crash. Those who want to judge people from 150, 250 or 2000 years ago without context sadden me. Their moral high horses are unwarranted, IMHO.
thank you for this. one more time-if one isn't taught history properly, all context is lost. you cannot judge events, actions, with today's value system. coca cola used to be classified as a medicine containing real cocaine, smoking used to be cool, drinking beer on the assembly line was allowed, thepyramids were built using slaves(gasp!!) etc. etc. put all these and countless others in to context today and wtf?? 'ey?
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"Judging without context?" They were judged AT THE TIME. And lost a war because of it.
after how many years? then we fixed it, but sadly, slavery is still going on all around the world in some form or another. who sold some of the original slaves in their homeland?
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Thoughts on Taco Bell Baja sauce?
Nothing better for my once a decade gordita - but I hear it's been removed the menu.
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after how many years? then we fixed it, but sadly, slavery is still going on all around the world in some form or another. who sold some of the original slaves in their homeland?
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Slavery was judged wrong by the majority of western civilization in the 1860s. Many people recognized it as such. This isn't just some issue of "context." The country elected a President who ran on an anti-slavery platform, from a party whose creation centered around anti-slavery.
If some town in the south is recognizing the local boy who was killed in the Civil War, then fine. But the many Jefferson Davis monuments? Robert E. Lee memorials? Nope.
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after how many years? then we fixed it, but sadly, slavery is still going on all around the world in some form or another. who sold some of the original slaves in their homeland?
None of this makes it right. Do you still defend ancient dental practices that you know are wrong, even if they are still being used in some backwater country? Or do you try to learn from them and make them a cautionary tale, not something to be celebrated?
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There was nothing improper about the Annexation of Hawaii. The prior Kingdom was run in a ruthless and bloody fashion. It all ended up very well for the Hawaiians as they became part of the United States.
Yes. There is nothing wrong with foreign businessmen holding a monarch at gunpoint and forcing the monarch to sign a new constitution that strips voting rights away from native Hawaiians and transfers all the power to the non-native plantation owners. ::)
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Speaking of fast food breakfast, don't sleep on Taco Bell. Fantastic items there.
Tell me more about this Taco Bell breakfast. Recommendations? Sauce, no sauce?
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This is a really slippery slope. How about all the lands we stole from Native Americans. We wiped out entire populations. Just saying this is a slippery slope.
Cooked up 8 racks of ribs this week at work on a Traeger. First exposure to this grill/smoker. I hear Green Mountain is very similar in design and function, but a lower price point. Anyone use either?
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Robert E Lee was opposed to Confederate monuments, and no one at his funeral wore Confederate uniforms because he believed it would foster divisiveness. Clearly he was right.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4800978/Confederate-General-Robert-E-Lee-opposed-monuments.html
Anyone who cares about honoring Lee is full of crap if they don't want ALL Confederate monuments torn down.
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General Lee was remarkably prescient, if this story is accurate.
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None of this makes it right. Do you still defend ancient dental practices that you know are wrong, even if they are still being used in some backwater country? Or do you try to learn from them and make them a cautionary tale, not something to be celebrated?
we aren't saying it's right, it's what they knew and what was accepted by many
do i still defend ancient dental practices...i never did. but here's a great example-when i first got out of school, wearing gloves was kinda optional. my dad practiced bare handed dentistry for 25+ years. so, by today's standards, that's crazy wrong. by the standards in place leading up to the 1980's, bare handed dentistry, for lack of better term, met the standard of care. you tell a new dental grad today about this and he/she thinks we were paleolithic.
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This is a really slippery slope. How about all the lands we stole from Native Americans. We wiped out entire populations. Just saying this is a slippery slope.
Cooked up 8 racks of ribs this week at work on a Traeger. First exposure to this grill/smoker. I hear Green Mountain is very similar in design and function, but a lower price point. Anyone use either?
We have a traeger and use it weekly. The Traeger pellets are crap, though; full of filler. We get pellets from a place in Eden Prairie - split a pallet with three other friends who own smokers.
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It's da only latex/non-latex I feel good 'bout wearin', ai na?
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We have a traeger and use it weekly. The Traeger pellets are crap, though; full of filler. We get pellets from a place in Eden Prairie - split a pallet with three other friends who own smokers.
What brand of pellets do you get?
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None of this makes it right. Do you still defend ancient dental practices that you know are wrong, even if they are still being used in some backwater country? Or do you try to learn from them and make them a cautionary tale, not something to be celebrated?
Nobody is against progress. Certainly we wouldn't use dental practices from hundreds of years ago. But dentists back then shouldn't be vilified either.
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It's da only latex/non-latex I feel good 'bout wearin', ai na?
only you warrior-now that is funny right there man!! check out the lamb skin for endo for
that extra tactile sense, der ayn'er?
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Nobody is against progress. Certainly we wouldn't use dental practices from hundreds of years ago. But dentists back then shouldn't be vilified either.
I promise only to vilify dentists from hundreds of years ago if they committed treason....
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I promise only to vilify dentists from hundreds of years ago if they committed treason....
Hundreds of those treasonous pieces of garbage are buried in Arlington National Cemetery. How many of them were charged, convicted and executed? Let's do it 162 years later - sounds fair to me!
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Yes. There is nothing wrong with foreign businessmen holding a monarch at gunpoint and forcing the monarch to sign a new constitution that strips voting rights away from native Hawaiians and transfers all the power to the non-native plantation owners. ::)
Nice try at revisionist history. The reality is the US gave recognition to the Kingdom of Hawaii which ultimately led to countries all over the world recognizing Hawaii. This was done to protect American Interests versus European interests at the time. Over time there were various internecine battles among the Hawaiians which led to a circumstance which threatened to disenfranchise the US Interests. The US then flip flopped back and forth on various Hawaiian regime change . Recognizing that they could not sustain independent status any longer the Hawaiians moved toward annexation. Today the decedents of the original Hawaiian benefit from a very large educational trust created by those original business interests. No ones culture or way of life was changed.
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Hundreds of those treasonous pieces of garbage are buried in Arlington National Cemetery. How many of them were charged, convicted and executed? Let's do it 162 years later - sounds fair to me!
Are you questioning whether they actually took up arms against the United States? Talk about trying to rewrite history…
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Speaking of the eclipse – does everybody have their ISO certified glasses?
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Hundreds of those treasonous pieces of garbage are buried in Arlington National Cemetery. How many of them were charged, convicted and executed? Let's do it 162 years later - sounds fair to me!
I really do not want to enter this debate. But, they did commit treason. They were then pardoned by President Johnson. Many were required to pledge an Oath to the US to obtain the pardon.
There is no debate on whether they committed treason or not.
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Nice try at revisionist history. The reality is the US gave recognition to the Kingdom of Hawaii which ultimately led to countries all over the world recognizing Hawaii. This was done to protect American Interests versus European interests at the time. Over time there were various internecine battles among the Hawaiians which led to a circumstance which threatened to disenfranchise the US Interests. The US then flip flopped back and forth on various Hawaiian regime change . Recognizing that they could not sustain independent status any longer the Hawaiians moved toward annexation. Today the decedents of the original Hawaiian benefit from a very large educational trust created by those original business interests. No ones culture or way of life was changed.
So again, a bunch of foreign businessmen held a monarch at gunpoint and forced him to sign a constitution that transferred all of the voting rights away from native Hawaiians to the foreign plantation owners. But its okay because it protected American interests over European interests.
That sounds like the same garbage argument as "Slavery was actually great for black people, if we didn't do it, they would be stuck in Africa right now!"
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So again, a bunch of foreign businessmen held a monarch at gunpoint and forced him to sign a constitution that transferred all of the voting rights away from native Hawaiians to the foreign plantation owners. But its okay because it protected American interests over European interests.
That sounds like the same garbage argument as "Slavery was actually great for black people, if we didn't do it, they would be stuck in Africa right now!"
Gosh, we better give Hawaii back, and while we are at it, we should give back North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, and the Ohio Valley.
I had two Pink Ladies yesterday. Nice and tart.
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Gosh, we better give Hawaii back, and while we are at it, we should give back North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, and the Ohio Valley.
No one is saying that. Just that we shouldn't continue to whitewash American history.
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No one is saying that. Just that we shouldn't continue to whitewash American history.
Agreed.
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So again, a bunch of foreign businessmen held a monarch at gunpoint and forced him to sign a constitution that transferred all of the voting rights away from native Hawaiians to the foreign plantation owners. But its okay because it protected American interests over European interests.
That sounds like the same garbage argument as "Slavery was actually great for black people, if we didn't do it, they would be stuck in Africa right now!"
I know you agree with me on this one...but I might add, 93% of Hawaiians voted for statehood. What they didn't have a vote on was the whitewashing of their culture--the language, the pagan religious mores, the monuments, the history. All were whitewashed and are just now finding their way back in political ways.
I plan on throwing an extra $20 in the mass basket today to remove half the Papal tombs from St. Peter's based on this enlightening thread. Out with JP2, the Jesuits and throw in Joan of Arc too.
How sad. But, I could use a nice meat rub just about now, though.
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Gosh, we better give Hawaii back, and while we are at it, we should give back North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, and the Ohio Valley.
I had two Pink Ladies yesterday. Nice and tart.
Data boy, nice 3 way, hey?
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Got a 3 pound bag of Jazz apples the other day at Aldi for $3.29. Pretty good value and a nice change from the usual Pink Ladies.
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Remember when Juan got a free ticket to a Brewers game? We need to shut the bball program down and cleanse the history books, stat
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Remember when Juan got a free ticket to a Brewers game? We need to shut the bball program down and cleanse the history books, stat
Did the Brewers win that game?
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Congratulations to the New England Patriots on their 40,000-100 victory yesterday.
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Remember when Juan got a free ticket to a Brewers game? We need to shut the bball program down and cleanse the history books, stat
Abe Lincoln is best remembered for prosecuting the Civil War due to the illicit free sporting tickets Jeff Davis and Rob Lee secured.
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Gosh, we better give Hawaii back, and while we are at it, we should give back North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, and the Ohio Valley.
I had two Pink Ladies yesterday. Nice and tart.
That Cialas 'scrip really workin', a'ina?
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Tell me more about this Taco Bell breakfast. Recommendations? Sauce, no sauce?
Breakfast Crunchwrap, bacon. Cinnabon for the side.
They have a special morning sauce, but I eat while driving. No sauce opportunity.
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Abe Lincoln is best remembered for prosecuting the Civil War due to the illicit free sporting tickets Jeff Davis and Rob Lee secured.
Didn't realize the NCAA had been formed way back then. Given that Davis and Lee committed the violations, I assume the NCAA really brought the hammer down on a coupla lowly privates....
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Hundreds of those treasonous pieces of garbage are buried in Arlington National Cemetery. How many of them were charged, convicted and executed? Let's do it 162 years later - sounds fair to me!
ummm, they're already dead. if it makes ya feel any better, maybe you can have them executed in absentia ?-( ::) let me know, cuz i gotta see this
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What brand of pellets do you get?
Lumberjack
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Breakfast Crunchwrap, bacon. Cinnabon for the side.
They have a special morning sauce, but I eat while driving. No sauce opportunity.
Well now I know what I'm getting for breakfast on my drive in tomorrow.
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Well now I know what I'm getting for breakfast on my drive in tomorrow.
Extra special morning sauce, heyna?
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I remember the scenes. I have a bond with the men I have fought fires with for these 27 years. I get that part of it. I truly do. Here is where I strongly disagree. There is no way to get around the fact that the confederacy attacked and tried to dissolve the USA through secession. Declaring war against the USA is the constitutional definition of treason. By your reasoning, we should have statues of others who have attacked the USA because they bonded with their fellow soldiers. We should put up statues of German, Japanese, Iraqi soldiers who fought against the USA because it wasn't really about ideology for them.
We should remember the confederacy. There should be museums about it, like the Holocaust museum, that really gets deeply into the story, the history, the context, that pulls no punches describing the mindset of the confederacy, both from a state's rights perspective, as well as from a slavery perspective. But these statues should not be in the public square.
Which is why I would never support taking down the statues of the founding fathers. I think that is a red herring of an argument. Our founding fathers were flawed individuals, like the rest of us. It is unfortunate that they kept slaves and compromised on the issue when writing constitution. But their goal was to create this country. The goal of the leaders of the confederacy was to destroy it.
I believe it is far too simple to distill the American Civil War down to the collective treason of 11 states over just slavery. (Remember, too, that MD, MO, and KY would have left were it not for Federal garrisoning and the suspending Habeus Corpus.)
Without the south, and South Carolina in particular, there is no American Revolution and we would likely be a colonial possession of the UK through this day. (British policy towards its later dominion possessions was greatly altered by the shock of the American UDI; the UK recognized that there needed to be a middle course relationship with its dominions which were largely white/Anglo. For an excellent insight I highly recommend David Cannadine's Ornamentalism: How the British Saw Their Empire.)
I have said before that the Union which emerged from the American UDI and subsequent conflict was far from perfect. So flawed was the Union that the Civil War was almost inevitable.
Because of compromises made in the 18th Century by the Continental Congress and under the Articles of Confederation the secessionists genuinely believed there was legal basis for withdrawing from the Union. And frankly, they are not actually wrong. Fact is, Lincoln maintained the Union through armed force. There was a reason he suspended Habeus Corpus.
To blithely categorize confederates as traitors is to trivialize a very complex problem.
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Taco Bell rules
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I've read books espousing that point of view. It has always felt like desperate attempts to hide the most basic, unavoidable, underlying fact. They declared war on the USA, tried to secede, to preserve slavery. The rationalizations are just wordy attempts to assuage guilty consciences and deflect from an uncomfortable truth. To me, Keefe, it IS that simple.
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I believe it is far too simple to distill the American Civil War down to the collective treason of 11 states over just slavery. (Remember, too, that MD, MO, and KY would have left were it not for Federal garrisoning and the suspending Habeus Corpus.)
Without the south, and South Carolina in particular, there is no American Revolution and we would likely be a colonial possession of the UK through this day. (British policy towards its later dominion possessions was greatly altered by the shock of the American UDI; the UK recognized that there needed to be a middle course relationship with its dominions which were largely white/Anglo. For an excellent insight I highly recommend David Cannadine's Ornamentalism: How the British Saw Their Empire.)
I have said before that the Union which emerged from the American UDI and subsequent conflict was far from perfect. So flawed was the Union that the Civil War was almost inevitable.
Because of compromises made in the 18th Century by the Continental Congress and under the Articles of Confederation the secessionists genuinely believed there was legal basis for withdrawing from the Union. And frankly, they are not actually wrong. Fact is, Lincoln maintained the Union through armed force. There was a reason he suspended Habeus Corpus.
To blithely categorize confederates as traitors is to trivialize a very complex problem.
LOL. OK. I guess if you want to redefine treason.
Statues still shouldn't be around though. They meant something sinister when they were erected. They mean something sinister now.
To blithely write that off trivializes a pretty straight-forward issue.
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I read one of my favorite authors this weekend. Faulkner wrote, "The past is never dead. In fact, it isn't even past."
One of the most offensive weapons employed by ideologues is banning free speech. When does Faulkner's magnificent pen or Twain's wry wit get tossed on the burning heap?
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I've read books espousing that point of view. It has always felt like desperate attempts to hide the most basic, unavoidable, underlying fact. They declared war on the USA, tried to secede, to preserve slavery. The rationalizations are just wordy attempts to assuage guilty consciences and deflect from an uncomfortable truth. To me, Keefe, it IS that simple.
Then we agree to disagree. I highly recommend a thorough understanding of the Articles of Confederation and what was and what was not agreed to by the Constitutional Convention. The founding of this country was a series of compromises. The exiting states considered themse;lves sovereign entities and had a legal basis for secession.
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LOL. OK. I guess if you want to redefine treason.
Statues still shouldn't be around though. They meant something sinister when they were erected. They mean something sinister now.
To blithely write that off trivializes a pretty straight-forward issue.
I really don't care about statues. I am addressing an altogether different issue.
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Faulkner and Twain? Never. False argument. Red Herring. Keefe, I understand your arguments about a flawed constitution, the 3/5 solution, state's rights, union overreach, Missouri Compromise, Kansas-Nebraska act, Dred Scott....... they all have one unifying theme. The stain on America's conscience. I accept that the founding fathers were flawed souls, many of whom were slave holders. I accept the notion that many great Americans in the first 75 years of our nation were slaveowners. That this was part of society. This should not be whitewashed. It should be taken out, held up to the light, and studied for the flaws within it to remind us of how easy it is to go along with society instead of doing the right thing. I want the confederate statues taken down because these leaders led a war against our country to protect that sin. Take the statues, put them in museums devoted to telling the story of slavery and the confederacy. But don't hold them up as icons and heroes to put in front of schools and government buildings.
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One of the most offensive weapons employed by ideologues is banning free speech.
That will be really great point...when free speech is banned.
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That will be really great point...when free speech is banned.
it hasn't been banned outright, but there are some out there who have accomplished it, hopefully temporarily. we all know where that is and no need to get in to that argument. suffice it to say, unless the light of day is shone onto it each and every time it is attempted or accomplished, it will be the ole "boiling of the frog"
that is why keefe's quote/comment is so significant-
"One of the most offensive weapons employed by ideologues is banning free speech. When does Faulkner's magnificent pen or Twain's wry wit get tossed on the burning heap?"
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it hasn't been banned outright, but there are some out there who have accomplished it, hopefully temporarily.
Like whom?
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I accept that the founding fathers were flawed souls, many of whom were slave holders.
I accept that every hero who ever walked the earth was a flawed soul, (what was it Fitzgerald said, "Show me a hero and I'll write you a tragedy"?) especially when we dissect their lives hundreds of years after the fact and disregard context.
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Faulkner and Twain? Never. False argument. Red Herring. Keefe, I understand your arguments about a flawed constitution, the 3/5 solution, state's rights, union overreach, Missouri Compromise, Kansas-Nebraska act, Dred Scott....... they all have one unifying theme. The stain on America's conscience. I accept that the founding fathers were flawed souls, many of whom were slave holders. I accept the notion that many great Americans in the first 75 years of our nation were slaveowners. That this was part of society. This should not be whitewashed. It should be taken out, held up to the light, and studied for the flaws within it to remind us of how easy it is to go along with society instead of doing the right thing. I want the confederate statues taken down because these leaders led a war against our country to protect that sin. Take the statues, put them in museums devoted to telling the story of slavery and the confederacy. But don't hold them up as icons and heroes to put in front of schools and government buildings.
Again, you miss the point. The question is did the secessionist states have the legal right to do so. Until you answer that you cannot pass judgment on what is and what is not treason.
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From your private photo collection?
No, from the crucifix on the wall I believe that to be a female Scooper from her days in Cobeen.
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Send pics. This thread could use some meat porn.
(https://webmail1.networksolutionsemail.com/appsuite/api/mail/IMG_0484.JPG?action-attachment&folder=default0%2FINBOX&id=6456573161541480847&attachment=2&user=7&context=3464076&sequence=1&delivery=view)
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Like whom?
giving you the benefit of doubt here, but i think you know darn well "by whom" and where it has been happening. how does this go? "free advice" call berkeley and tell them ben and ann want to speak on campus. can you say antifa?
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Again, you miss the point. The question is did the secessionist states have the legal right to do so. Until you answer that you cannot pass judgment on what is and what is not treason.
Again, you miss the point. What basic underlying issue would make them look into seceding?
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Again, you miss the point. What basic underlying issue would make them look into seceding?
I'm pretty sure it was the pea guacamole controversy of 2015 that started everything.
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it hasn't been banned outright, but there are some out there who have accomplished it, hopefully temporarily. we all know where that is and no need to get in to that argument.
They have? Who has? Please enlighten me.
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giving you the benefit of doubt here, but i think you know darn well "by whom" and where it has been happening. how does this go? "free advice" call berkeley and tell them ben and ann want to speak on campus. can you say antifa?
That's not an example of limiting freedom of speech. Those who were cancelled by Berkeley have every right to say what they want. They can shout it on a street corner, put it on a website, etc. without fear of being arrested for that speech (which is what the first amendment covers.)
Denying someone a venue to speak is not limiting free speech.
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I accept that every hero who ever walked the earth was a flawed soul, (what was it Fitzgerald said, "Show me a hero and I'll write you a tragedy"?) especially when we dissect their lives hundreds of years after the fact and disregard context.
The context is simple: there were Americans who wanted to own black people and there were Americans who didn't want to own black people. They engaged in a war.
A century and a half later the losing side is upset that their participation trophies, which were predominantly erected many many decades after the war during periods of societal division over racial equality, are possibly being removed.
Simple as.
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History tells me that declaring independence from one's governing entity is an act of war. The rebellion of 1776 is called a Revolution because the rebels won. The rebellion of 1861 is called a Civil War because the rebels lost.
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One of the most offensive weapons employed by ideologues is banning free speech. When does Faulkner's magnificent pen or Twain's wry wit get tossed on the burning heap?
The people that propose banning books generally aren't the ones that believe we should remove the statues that glorify those that fought to own black people. On the other hand, we know which side sympathizes with book burners.
(http://totallyhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/book-burning.jpg)
(https://limacharlienews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Charlottesville-neo-nazis.jpg)
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Monuments to treason. Rock on.
Confederate traitors. All of them.
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People should consider the fact that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were not slaveholders. And one cannot discount the fact that state's rights was the predominate issue at play.
Our country was an imperfect union from the start - John Adams made significant moral compromises to effect the sole goal of independence from Great Britain. The history of America through the election of Lincoln hinged on the central question of federal versus state authority.
Were confederate soldiers traitors? Some might judge them as such but I do believe they fought for their conception of what the American Republic was supposed to be. And no less an authority than Lincoln said we were obliged to welcome them back as the American brothers they always were.
People want to eradicate Robert E. Lee from the pages of history but had Virginia not seceded he would have commanded the Union Army. His loyalty, as was the loyalty of almost every American in the antebellum period, was not to the Republic but to their community then state.
Lee was a brilliant field commander whose campaigns are still studied in America's War Colleges (of which I am a graduate.) He served his nation and then his state. We should cherish his greatness while understanding his faults.
In Savannah two weeks ago, there is a monument in beautiful Forsyth Park. It roughly reads "To the Confederate Dead". There is a statue bust in front of the monument that reads nothing more than "Confederate General" and his name. I detest monuments to the Confederacy and I'm still split on this one if it is acceptable. The war was traumatic on both sides, so this is closure to remember those who died. No promotion of the Confederacy. On the other hand it's still a monument to the Confederacy.
At the same time the city does take pride in promoting General Sherman's House, the place General Sherman used as command post when his march south finally reached the sea.
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Not all speech is free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio
According to the Supreme Court, speech that is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action" is not protected by the Constitution. The case this derived from was a KKK member. None of what happened in C'Ville from the Nazis and KKK members should be protected by the First Amendment. If you are espousing the eradication of a people, which is what shouting Nazi chants and carrying swastikas is doing, you should have no protection from the First Amendment.
This isn't about protecting some poor KKK member's feelings, it's about preventing the incitement of violence, which is their intent from the start. If you really think they aren't going out with that in mind, I have a bridge to sell you.
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In Savannah two weeks ago, there is a monument in beautiful Forsyth Park. It roughly reads "To the Confederate Dead". There is a statue bust in front of the monument that reads nothing more than "Confederate General" and his name. I detest monuments to the Confederacy and I'm still split on this one if it is acceptable. The war was traumatic on both sides, so this is closure to remember those who died. No promotion of the Confederacy. On the other hand it's still a monument to the Confederacy.
At the same time the city does take pride in promoting General Sherman's House, the place General Sherman used as command post when his march south finally reached the sea.
I spend quite a bit of time in Northwest Arkansas for business and I've walked the entire battlefield at Pea Ridge at least four times. Near a tavern where the heaviest fighting occurred, there are two simple obelisk memorials. These were erected in remembrance of the soldiers that fought an died there and specifically talk about reuniting. They do not glorify the cause, only honor those that fought there, and speak to reconciliation.
Not all Civil War monuments are the same, and I doubt these are on anyone's list to remove.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-y9SFD1AOy2w/TtwUHi8xdeI/AAAAAAAAATQ/28BM8D5Gghs/s400/IMG_0626.jpg)
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Trying to equate the third reich to the confederacy would have, at the time of their respective existence, been an apples and oranges comparison... but today, it's become an oranges and tangelos comparison, i.e. still unrelated yet universally interchangeable for one another.
Germany today doesn't allow symbols, paraphernalia, signs, etc. from banned organizations... so why can't we in the US adhere to the same ban of German organizations, in solidarity, and interchangeably apply it to the organization (i.e. confederacy) that sought to preserve the greatest human atrocity that took place on our soil?
Seems to me that there's nothing purposeful or symbolic about the swastika or confederate flag that exists in a manner not intended to incite violence these days, so Brandenburg v. Ohio would hold up.
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Thanks. I will definitely check it out.
ironically, I am a huge fan of both Adams and Jefferson. An astounding partnership.
Ditto here Keefe. The North-and-South Poles of the Revolution.
I coincidentally think my visit to the Adams family homestead in Quincy, MA was the same year I visited Monticello (and Monroe's Ash-Lawn Highland home also in Charlottesville.)
On a similar note, the more books I read on the Founding Fathers the more it seems these guys were at their best when working in conjunction with another founder.
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The people that propose banning books generally aren't the ones that believe we should remove the statues that glorify those that fought to own black people. On the other hand, we know which side sympathizes with book burners.
(http://totallyhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/book-burning.jpg)
(https://limacharlienews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Charlottesville-neo-nazis.jpg)
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Thought control articulates in many ways and forms.
And to compare the Confederacy to Nazi Germany is specious at best.
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Denying someone a venue to speak is not limiting free speech.
You can't be serious...especially an academic forum. Good Lord that is feeble.
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Again, you miss the point. What basic underlying issue would make them look into seceding?
Your logic is obtuse. Forget about slavery, the right to tax, regulate commerce, or any other specific matter. The issue of treason by citizens of the Confederacy rests entirely on the right of a sovereign state to secede.
Yes, slavery is reprehensible. But let me ask - where is everyone's outrage about the continuing enslavement of humans by others?
After losing a loved one I spent almost a year helping an organization in Nepal (Next Generation Nepal) recover and resettle children sold into the most hideous forms of human bondage.
In Bellevue, WA the FBI busted a ring that was bringing young women from Korea, Cambodia, and China and forcing them to work in "massage parlors."
I am dumbfounded that people express outrage over what happened more than a century ago but do nothing about ongoing institutionalized human bondage.
Some people anguish over statues; I got up off my arse and devoted almost a year helping fight slavery that is happening today. I suggest I understand the point very well.
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Some people anguish over statues
As Steve Bannon said, nothing would please him more than to make this a debate about statues.
It isn't about statues; it's about the fact that these statues were erected specifically to send a message to black people, and that white supremacists agree with that message and use them as rallying points for their ideology, and that the sitting President of the United States can't or won't condemn that message.
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How 'bout this eclipse?
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You can't be serious...especially an academic forum. Good Lord that is feeble.
Limiting someone's ability to speak at an academic institution has all sorts of negative consequences. However that is not "banning free speech."
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How 'bout this eclipse?
Turning the world dark, hey Doc!
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So is anyone in the path of totality? Glow Jr. Is. He went down to Nashville to stay with my folks.
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Limiting someone's ability to speak at an academic institution has all sorts of negative consequences. However that is not "banning free speech."
Oh please. Freedom of Speech is under attack throughout the world. Including here in the United States.
There are Voltaire's and Robespierre's in this world. Reread Candide for insight.
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I have friends who headed for Carbondale.
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Half light here in Bellevue. Werewolves heard howling from Building 10 on the MSFT campus.
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Oh please. Freedom of Speech is under attack throughout the world. Including here in the United States.
That's not what you said before. You said: "One of the most offensive weapons employed by ideologues is banning free speech."
"Ban" and "attack" are two different words with two very different meanings.
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Your logic is obtuse. Forget about slavery, the right to tax, regulate commerce, or any other specific matter. The issue of treason by citizens of the Confederacy rests entirely on the right of a sovereign state to secede.
Like I said, when 13 colonies declared independence in 1776 there was war. In 1861, certain states started to declare independence. The result was war. Both instances were settled on the battlefield rather than the courts. Conclusion: Legal rights only extend as far as the parties of the government and the governed agree; when they disagree on that line the result is war.
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That's not what you said before. You said: "One of the most offensive weapons employed by ideologues is banning free speech."
"Ban" and "attack" are two different words with two very different meanings.
Freedom of Speech is both under attack and being banned. Denying access to a venue which is dedicated to free and unemcumbered speech is a ban and particularly heinous.
Arguing otherwise is specious.
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Freedom of Speech is both under attack and being banned. Denying access to a venue which is dedicated to free and unemcumbered speech is a ban and particularly heinous.
Arguing otherwise is specious.
What venues "dedicated to free and unemcumbered speech" are people being denied access to?
In many ways, it is actually much easier to share "free and unemcumbered speech" to a much greater audience than it was a generation ago.
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How 'bout this eclipse?
Just passed through KC - pretty damned cool. I wouldn't have traveled for it but having every non-human thing think it's night was well worth the experience and we're on the very southern edge where 'totality' was like 20 seconds.
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Just passed through KC - pretty damned cool. I wouldn't have traveled for it but having every non-human thing think it's night was well worth the experience and we're on the very southern edge where 'totality' was like 20 seconds.
here in southeastern wisconsin-if i wouldn't have known there was a total eclipse, i would say they are all full of it. it is quite overcast, yet the sunlight should still have been limited, right? for 83%? one would not have noticed
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Milwaukee report .. clouds were wispy enough to see the sun, so that was ok. But even at 84% it .. wasn't that cool. It was dimmer, but on the excitement-o-meter, about a 2.
My co-worker did drive down south of STL last night and livecasted on Facebook just now .. watched his video .. it was odd how light it was .. maybe it was just a really good camera phone, but it didn't seem very dark in his video.
Yadda yadda .. before someone started passing glasses around, I did glance at the sun a few times .. not a good idea.
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What venues "dedicated to free and unemcumbered speech" are people being denied access to?
In many ways, it is actually much easier to share "free and unemcumbered speech" to a much greater audience than it was a generation ago.
you do get/see the news, right? if i were to announce that i am speaking on fill in the blank "controversial topic" and a large group threatens to fill the place with guys in masks, torches, clubs, vandalism, tipping/burning cars, looting, etc the local law enforcement tells me that i best cancel for the safety of many, that would be denying free speech in my book
there are veys and there are other veys-some of these are not so pleasant, ein'er?
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I have friends who headed for Carbondale.
This is why you never spend money in anticipation of natural phenomenon. Your friends probably didn't drop much coin if they drove, but imagine those people who spent a few grand to get to Kansas City for the eclipse only to have thunderstorms during totality.
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you do get/see the news, right? if i were to announce that i am speaking on fill in the blank "controversial topic" and a large group threatens to fill the place with guys in masks, torches, clubs, vandalism, tipping/burning cars, looting, etc the local law enforcement tells me that i best cancel for the safety of many, that would be denying free speech in my book
Record from home. Post on internet. Nothing is banned. You are free to say what you want.
I am not saying your scenario is "right." Just saying it's not "banning free speech."
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Constantly confusing free speech (something that laws should not be passed to prohibit) and being free from consequences of free speech. In this case, people controlling venues are not interested in the consequences of you using their venue for free speech. In other free words, they are choosing their right of free association over the anticipated outcomes of your free speech.
You can say what you want. Others are free to shout you down.
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Milwaukee report .. clouds were wispy enough to see the sun, so that was ok. But even at 84% it .. wasn't that cool. It was dimmer, but on the excitement-o-meter, about a 2.
CT was good -- we had some clouds but still visible. Buffalo 2024 - wings and totality.
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70% coverage here in Southern Connecticut. We're looking through a weld mask at work. Very cool to see. Trying to take photos with a good camera through the weld mask. Not so good.
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Freedom of Speech is both under attack and being banned. Denying access to a venue which is dedicated to free and unemcumbered speech is a ban and particularly heinous.
Arguing otherwise is specious.
There are three kinds of forums according to the Supreme Court. Public, limited, and closed. If you can find an example of a public forum being denied to someone, or a limited forum being denied based on viewpoint alone I would probably agree with you. But the examples media tend to point to are usually closed or limited forums. Most interior spaces on college campuses are considered either limited or closed forums.
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It was about 80% here in Cleveland. Very cool to look at through the glasses, but otherwise not nearly as dramatic as I expected. It was a bit dimmer than usual, but the sun was still so bright that I don't think I really would have noticed much of anything if I hadn't known about it. Aside from a couple times when just starting to pass behind a cloud when you could see it with your naked eye, there wasn't much at all to see without the glasses. Before hand, I was wondering how dark it would get. The answer: not very. At all.
Now, seven years from now we'll be right in the past of totality. So, there's that.
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There are three kinds of forums according to the Supreme Court. Public, limited, and closed. If you can find an example of a public forum being denied to someone, or a limited forum being denied based on viewpoint alone I would probably agree with you. But the examples media tend to point to are usually closed or limited forums. Most interior spaces on college campuses are considered either limited or closed forums.
Says the guy who's 'other' school just limited free speech on campus by cancelling a white nationalist rally. Of course that is going to be your position. ::)
((teal (or is it 'teel' now?))
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In Des Moines for the evening Any good barbecue or steak places in this town ?
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In Des Moines for the evening Any good barbecue or steak places in this town ?
I have been to the 801 Chophouse a handful of times. Very good.
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In Des Moines for the evening Any good barbecue or steak places in this town ?
I'll ask my son works in Des Moines yes the one that went to ISU
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Sew, you're Burton's dad, hey?
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I'll ask my son works in Des Moines yes the one that went to ISU
F or J?
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F or J?
F, J lives in MKE at least until February 2018
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Sew, you're Burton's dad, hey?
Nope, S had graduated by the time Burton transferred.
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Driving by Ames right now . Smells like manure
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How 'bout this eclipse?
https://www.youtube.com/v/Qx9SJpE7Ifg
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Driving by Ames right now . Smells like manure
F says BBQ Somkey D's or Jethro's
For steak as per Sultan 801 Chophouse
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So is anyone in the path of totality? Glow Jr. Is. He went down to Nashville to stay with my folks.
My wife was visiting our daughter in Columbia, MO. They said the totality was amazing. They also had perfect timing - it was clear as the moon was obscuring the sun more and more and during the totality...then they got storms a little while later.
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These stainless steel insulated cups are really great in the summer. The ice stays in there for a long time.
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Maybe late but I'll leave this here:
http://cwmemory.com/2017/05/30/w-e-b-dubois-on-robert-e-lee/
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Maybe late but I'll leave this here:
http://cwmemory.com/2017/05/30/w-e-b-dubois-on-robert-e-lee/
I might not be a free man today if it weren't for the Confederates . This is because they were stupid and arrogant enough to start a war they could not win . The North came in kicked butt and freed my ancestors. For all we know, Slavery could have stayed as an institution for a much longer time if there was no war. So , yes Robert E Lee and the like were traitors and certainly no friend of the black man ,but in my way of looking at life, they did me a favor by creating a circumstance that directly led to freedom .
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No eclipse here in Paris.
Ps DUKES! What the heck happened there? That's easily top 3 fav bars in Milwaukee and now we are shooting people outside of it?
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Maybe late but I'll leave this here:
http://cwmemory.com/2017/05/30/w-e-b-dubois-on-robert-e-lee/
Zeitgeist is immutable. What seems obvious today might not have been as self-evident in the swirl of the cataclysm.
Whether he fully realized it or not, Faulkner in his world-class art and in his opinions drew from the well of traditional Southern impulses. He even calls down the old truth that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance, that liberty is not a gift but only for those who have the character to get and keep it, “Which is exactly what we did, in those old days.”
John Taylor of Caroline, John C. Calhoun, and Robert E. Lee would know at once exactly what he meant. William Faulkner was not only a conservative Southerner, he believed that it was not such bad thing to be.
I believe it is a natural progression for the thought police to eventually turn their sites on the genius of Faulkner who celebrates the South and the Cause.
And to those white males of Scoop, who are so grievously offended by the stain of slavery in the cavalcade of American history, I ask what are you doing to fight slavery that continues unabated in an unjust world?
You quibble about statues and condemn men from a different age. But if slavery is really a matter of genuine concern and not parlor talk then you can fight against the enslavement of millions that is happening today. Some live by words. Others live by doing.
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Zeitgeist is immutable. What seems obvious today might not have been as self-evident in the swirl of the cataclysm.
Whether he fully realized it or not, Faulkner in his world-class art and in his opinions drew from the well of traditional Southern impulses. He even calls down the old truth that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance, that liberty is not a gift but only for those who have the character to get and keep it, “Which is exactly what we did, in those old days.”
John Taylor of Caroline, John C. Calhoun, and Robert E. Lee would know at once exactly what he meant. William Faulkner was not only a conservative Southerner, he believed that it was not such bad thing to be.
I believe it is a natural progression for the thought police to eventually turn their sites on the genius of Faulkner who celebrates the South and the Cause.
Faulker was an artist who reflected his times. There is no reason to diminish that work because of it.
And you seem to be making the mistake that many others have made. What wasn't "self-evident" at the time of Calhoun? That slavery was evil and wrong? Throughout the 1800s there were many monumental steps that lead to the abolition of slavery in the western world. The southern United States was one of two places in the western world that hung onto slavery into the 1860s. (The other was Brazil.) This wasn't really that complex an issue.
And to those white males of Scoop, who are so grievously offended by the stain of slavery in the cavalcade of American history, I ask what are you doing to fight slavery that continues unabated in an unjust world?
You quibble about statues and condemn men from a different age. But if slavery is really a matter of genuine concern and not parlor talk then you can fight against the enslavement of millions that is happening today. Some live by words. Others live by doing.
I know. We only wish we could be like you keefe. I mean, Scoop would be unbearable due to the pomposity, but at least we'd all claim we are doing something right?
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Faulker was an artist who reflected his times. There is no reason to diminish that work because of it.
And you seem to be making the mistake that many others have made. What wasn't "self-evident" at the time of Calhoun? That slavery was evil and wrong? Throughout the 1800s there were many monumental steps that lead to the abolition of slavery in the western world. The southern United States was one of two places in the western world that hung onto slavery into the 1860s. (The other was Brazil.) This wasn't really that complex an issue.
I know. We only wish we could be like you keefe. I mean, Scoop would be unbearable due to the pomposity, but at least we'd all claim we are doing something right?
No one questioned the morality of slavery. I think even Edward Rutledge knew that the enslavement of other humans was morally reprehensible. But Rutledge held the northern colonies hostage in exchange for a pass on the slavery question.
And at the time, even Abigail Adams said that subordinating the issue to the more pressing matter of the UDI was a necessary compromise for a greater good.
But in all of this I have not ever mentioned slavery. The central point of my narrative is that the states did have the right to withdraw from the Union as provided for under the Articles of Confederation.
The Articles established the states as sovereign entities with certain and definite rights. The subsequent Constitutional Convention broadened the federal powers but never eliminated many of the prescribed rights of the individual states.
And so, if the states were exercising their mandated right to leave the Union how could the citizens of those sovereign states be committing treason?
Lincoln did not prevent the secessionist states from exercising their right to leave the Union. In fact, he physically forced them back into the Union through overwhelming military force. Frankly, I am glad that he preserved the Union and ended the abomination of slavery.
As one of the most self-righteous posters here, Sultan, I guess you would immediately detect the robust aroma of hubris if not pretentious conceit.
But once more you avoid the question - if you are so terribly upset by slavery what have you done to combat that awful institution?
As I have said, I have taken time out of my life to fly essential supplies from Europe into the refugee camps in the Horn of Africa (where my sister and her husband volunteer as doctors through Médecins Sans Frontières) and helped with the recovery and reintegration of Nepali children who were sold into horrible lives of the most despicable forms of servitude.
If you want to consider that pompous then so be it. Frankly, I believe it is what my Anglican faith calls finding ways to serve.
People can thunder and rage at injustice but my rejoinder has always been to ask what one has done about it?
I have colleagues who are actively involved in volunteer cyber work aimed at shutting down human trafficking in Seattle. Their work was instrumental in shutting down a site that promoted prostitution here in Seattle. To me, that is active engagement in fighting slavery.
People can waste their time on statues but that is ridiculous when there is real injustice in the world.
One can pontificate about 200 year old injustice but I would prefer that the outraged channel all that strident militancy into something that actually makes a difference in the world.
It is one thing to scream and yell at the TV. It quite yet another to get out of the Lazy Boy and actually do something.
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No one questioned the morality of slavery. I think even Edward Rutledge knew that the enslavement of other humans was morally reprehensible. But Rutledge held the northern colonies hostage in exchange for a pass on the slavery question.
And at the time, even Abigail Adams said that subordinating the issue to the more pressing matter of the UDI was a necessary compromise for a greater good.
But in all of this I have not ever mentioned slavery. The central point of my narrative is that the states did have the right to withdraw from the Union as provided for under the Articles of Confederation.
The Articles established the states as sovereign entities with certain and definite rights. The subsequent Constitutional Convention broadened the federal powers but never eliminated many of the prescribed rights of the individual states.
And so, if the states were exercising their mandated right to leave the Union how could the citizens of those sovereign states be committing treason?
Lincoln did not prevent the secessionist states from exercising their right to leave the Union. In fact, he physically forced them back into the Union through overwhelming military force. Frankly, I am glad that he preserved the Union and ended the abomination of slavery.
As one of the most self-righteous posters here, Sultan, I guess you would immediately detect the robust aroma of hubris if not pretentious conceit.
But once more you avoid the question - if you are so terribly upset by slavery what have you done to combat that awful institution?
As I have said, I have taken time out of my life to fly essential supplies from Europe into the refugee camps in the Horn of Africa (where my sister and her husband volunteer as doctors through Médecins Sans Frontières) and helped with the recovery and reintegration of Nepali children who were sold into horrible lives of the most despicable forms of servitude.
If you want to consider that pompous then so be it. Frankly, I believe it is what my Anglican faith calls finding ways to serve.
People can thunder and rage at injustice but my rejoinder has always been to ask what one has done about it?
I have colleagues who are actively involved in volunteer cyber work aimed at shutting down human trafficking in Seattle. Their work was instrumental in shutting down a site that promoted prostitution here in Seattle. To me, that is active engagement in fighting slavery.
People can waste their time on statues but that is ridiculous when there is real injustice in the world.
One can pontificate about 200 year old injustice but I would prefer that the outraged channel all that strident militancy into something that actually makes a difference in the world.
It is one thing to scream and yell at the TV. It quite yet another to get out of the Lazy Boy and actually do something.
Keefe we all know you are a god among mortals. We can all just aspire to be you.
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https://www.youtube.com/v/Qx9SJpE7Ifg
Saw Zappa while at Marquette. Sublime.
https://www.youtube.com/v/MQvtIgniCsE
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Keefe we all know you are a god among mortals. We can all just aspire to be you.
Again, you engage in petulant personal attack rather than answer the question: Since you are so filled with seething rage against the abomination that is human subjugation what are you doing to fight it?
You mentioned that slavery only existed in two places in the 1860 western world. Fact is, human subjugation continues throughout the world, including in your state.
You rage about statues celebrating slavery. What are you doing to fight slavery happening in your very own back yard?
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Again, you engage in petulant personal attack rather than answer the question: Since you are so filled with seething rage against the abomination that is human subjugation what are you doing to fight it?
You mentioned that slavery only existed in two places in the 1860 western world. Fact is, human subjugation continues throughout the world, including in your state.
You rage about statues celebrating slavery. What are you doing to fight slavery happening in your very own back yard?
keefe, unlike you, I prefer to keep my charitable and personal interests to myself. Scoop doesn't need more pompous braggarts than it already has.
If that answer doesn't satisfy you...well tough sh*t.
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I prefer to keep my charitable and personal interests to myself. Scoop doesn't need more pompous braggarts than it already has.
I've generally found people do good deeds for two reasons. It's either to help others or to help themself. The former tend to do their good deeds and leave it at that. The latter tend to do their good deeds and go on to brag about them and use them to feel superior to others.
Further, not every individual can combat every ill in the world. I think most people are best suited finding what they really care about changing and taking actions where they are capable, whether that's through financial contribution or direct action. You can't save the entire world and right all wrongs alone, but if we all do our part, hopefully we will eventually get there.
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I've generally found people do good deeds for two reasons. It's either to help others or to help themself. The former tend to do their good deeds and leave it at that. The latter tend to do their good deeds and go on to brag about them and use them to feel superior to others.
Further, not every individual can combat every ill in the world. I think most people are best suited finding what they really care about changing and taking actions where they are capable, whether that's through financial contribution or direct action. You can't save the entire world and right all wrongs alone, but if we all do our part, hopefully we will eventually get there.
Well said.
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People can waste their time on statues but that is ridiculous when there is real injustice in the world.
This is where in my opinion you go off the rails.
It is well and good that you see and fight injustice elsewhere in the world. I applaud you for it. What is curious to me is that you seem to overlook, if not actively attempt to diminish, what the current public discourse is about.
It isn’t about statues per se, though the white supremacists would like to frame the discussion that way. It is about the message that those statues were intended to send when they were erected, and the same message the alt-right clings to today. The message that blacks may have been freed, but they will still be lynched. That they may be separate, but they will never be equal. That the law may say they have the right to vote, but we’ll do everything in our measure to prevent it. That the white man is, and always will be superior. They didn’t raise statues to Forrest because he was such a fine cavalry commander.
Now the alt-right clings to that message, the message that blacks are 3/5th of a person, the message that the glorifying statues of Davis, Lee, and Jackson were intended to convey. We have a President that pretends that white supremacists beating a black man with pipes and Nazis shouting about exterminating Jews are on the same moral footing as those that oppose them.
This isn’t even about slavery, as that question was settled long ago. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone that disagrees with your stance on slavery.
It’s about racism.
You can enjoy Faulkner’s prose, Lee’s ability as a field General, and even promulgate the obviously incorrect idea that we’d be a British colony today if it weren’t for South Carolina. But to use these as excuses to poo-pooh and dismiss the rise of white nationalism, in large part experiencing a resurgence thanks in part to a President that condones it, as inconsequential is ignoble.
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Keefe, there are millions of injustices in this world. I am confident that the vast majority of scoopers dedicate a significant portion of their time and funds to help right a fraction of the many injustices that plague humanity. No one can dedicate time and funds to every injustice. It's impossible. But that doesn't mean that those who choose to spend their time on other worthy causes can't have an opinion on a topic.
Fair or not, for many the confederacy and its many representations have become a symbol of hate and inequality....and not just for those who want to remove the symbols but also the ones who want to preserve them. One only has to look at Charlottesville to see that. Those protesters weren't chanting about states rights, honoring the dead, or Robert E Lee's contributions to the military curriculum. They were messages of hate and violence and some even brought symbols of Nazism in support. As I said earlier, I personally am for the statue staying up because I think its important to educate on the failings of our past. But I have no problem with others using their free speech to ask that these symbols of hate (for many) are removed.
I also don't care if we label the confederates traitors or not. If they weren't traitors, than they were enemy combatants who went to war with the United States of America for many reasons, not the least of which was the preservation of slavery. For me, we should educate ourselves and learn about the confederacy (which is why I am fine with the statue) but we should not honor it (which is why I was for changing the name of the park).
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But in all of this I have not ever mentioned slavery. The central point of my narrative is that the states did have the right to withdraw from the Union as provided for under the Articles of Confederation.
The Articles established the states as sovereign entities with certain and definite rights. The subsequent Constitutional Convention broadened the federal powers but never eliminated many of the prescribed rights of the individual states.
And so, if the states were exercising their mandated right to leave the Union how could the citizens of those sovereign states be committing treason?
Except, the Articles were and are no longer in effect. The Constitution completely supersedes the Articles. There is nothing in the Constitution that permits secession as it explicitly states the United States is "a perpetual union." The secession question is answered here:
"The Constitution does not directly mention secession.[55] The legality of secession was hotly debated in the 19th century, with Southerners often claiming and Northerners generally denying that states have a legal right to unilaterally secede.[56] The Supreme Court has consistently interpreted the Constitution to be an "indestructible" union.[55] There is no legal basis a state can point to for unilaterally seceding.[57] Many scholars hold that the Confederate secession was blatantly illegal. The Articles of Confederation explicitly state the Union is "perpetual"; the U.S. Constitution declares itself an even "more perfect union" than the Articles of Confederation.[58] Other scholars, while not necessarily disagreeing that the secession was illegal, point out that sovereignty is often de facto an "extralegal" question. Had the Confederacy won, any illegality of its actions under U.S. law would have been rendered irrelevant, just as the undisputed illegality of American rebellion under the British law of 1775 was rendered irrelevant. Thus, these scholars argue, the illegality of unilateral secession was not firmly de facto established until the Union won the Civil War; in this view, the legal question was resolved at Appomattox.[56][59]"
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Except, the Articles were and are no longer in effect. The Constitution completely supersedes the Articles. There is nothing in the Constitution that permits secession as it explicitly states the United States is "a perpetual union." The secession question is answered here:
"The Constitution does not directly mention secession.[55] The legality of secession was hotly debated in the 19th century, with Southerners often claiming and Northerners generally denying that states have a legal right to unilaterally secede.[56] The Supreme Court has consistently interpreted the Constitution to be an "indestructible" union.[55] There is no legal basis a state can point to for unilaterally seceding.[57] Many scholars hold that the Confederate secession was blatantly illegal. The Articles of Confederation explicitly state the Union is "perpetual"; the U.S. Constitution declares itself an even "more perfect union" than the Articles of Confederation.[58] Other scholars, while not necessarily disagreeing that the secession was illegal, point out that sovereignty is often de facto an "extralegal" question. Had the Confederacy won, any illegality of its actions under U.S. law would have been rendered irrelevant, just as the undisputed illegality of American rebellion under the British law of 1775 was rendered irrelevant. Thus, these scholars argue, the illegality of unilateral secession was not firmly de facto established until the Union won the Civil War; in this view, the legal question was resolved at Appomattox.[56][59]"
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Except, the Articles were and are no longer in effect. The Constitution completely supersedes the Articles. There is nothing in the Constitution that permits secession as it explicitly states the United States is "a perpetual union." The secession question is answered here:
"The Constitution does not directly mention secession.[55] The legality of secession was hotly debated in the 19th century, with Southerners often claiming and Northerners generally denying that states have a legal right to unilaterally secede.[56] The Supreme Court has consistently interpreted the Constitution to be an "indestructible" union.[55] There is no legal basis a state can point to for unilaterally seceding.[57] Many scholars hold that the Confederate secession was blatantly illegal. The Articles of Confederation explicitly state the Union is "perpetual"; the U.S. Constitution declares itself an even "more perfect union" than the Articles of Confederation.[58] Other scholars, while not necessarily disagreeing that the secession was illegal, point out that sovereignty is often de facto an "extralegal" question. Had the Confederacy won, any illegality of its actions under U.S. law would have been rendered irrelevant, just as the undisputed illegality of American rebellion under the British law of 1775 was rendered irrelevant. Thus, these scholars argue, the illegality of unilateral secession was not firmly de facto established until the Union won the Civil War; in this view, the legal question was resolved at Appomattox.[56][59]"
Who cares whether or not the confederate states had the right to leave, they didn't have the right to take up arms against the United States.
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There have been two revolutionary wars in the history of this country... in the first, the rebels won; in the second, they lost. You think that had we had lost the first one that merry old England would have let us erect statues of Washington, Jefferson, and all of the other traitors to the crown? Hell no. So all y'all wafflehousers best be thankful that we yankees tolerated your ignorance, insolence, insubordination and insidiousness this long.
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Unfortunately you are too late to experience two of the finest watering holes to ever offer chilled beverages to slake the thirst of a parched community. The brick and mortar of the Lanche and Lenny's are gone...but the memories remain...
The Lanche was that worn plantation house fallen on hard times, glimpses of her former glory straining against faded chintz, the yellowed chandeliers from Paris no longer illuminating splendid gentlemen in gray, settled uncomfortably on the veranda for the next mint julep while rehashing that field and Pickett's failure and the agony of what might have been, as the rustle of hooped skirts reverberates through darkened hallways hinting at the salacious, but the only life is in the Spanish Moss draped capriciously on gnarled cypress.
Lenny's was the tar paper shack out on the Bayou, beyond the critical gaze of the censuring eye, where the gentility slithered off at dusk to join the unwashed indulging earthier hungers, the sharp twang of the blues resonates off tin, the sorrow and pity of those words adding depth, richness, and meaning to the bourbon, there is loss but few regrets and certainly no remorse, where a man's soul is darker than the waters outside with desires more venomous than the cotton mouth, a place where dreams swirl in a monotonous languor bereft of hope.
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I've generally found people do good deeds for two reasons. It's either to help others or to help themself. The former tend to do their good deeds and leave it at that. The latter tend to do their good deeds and go on to brag about them and use them to feel superior to others.
Further, not every individual can combat every ill in the world. I think most people are best suited finding what they really care about changing and taking actions where they are capable, whether that's through financial contribution or direct action. You can't save the entire world and right all wrongs alone, but if we all do our part, hopefully we will eventually get there.
Kinda like posting a work promotion in both the alumni magazine then reposting it here???
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Kinda like posting a work promotion in both the alumni magazine then reposting it here???
A work promotion isn't exactly a "good deed." So that's not self-promoting altruism, it's simply tooting your own horn. And if you don't toot your own horn once in a while, no one else will.
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keefe, unlike you, I prefer to keep my charitable and personal interests to myself. Scoop doesn't need more pompous braggarts than it already has.
If that answer doesn't satisfy you...well tough sh*t.
Actually, you post a rather large volume of information about your personal interests.
The specific ask is since you are so egregiously outraged about statues and the glorification of a slave-holding society what is it you do to combat the institution of slavery which continues on to this very day?
You are comfortable expressing outrage about slavery. Since it continues on today what are you doing about it?
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This is where in my opinion you go off the rails.
It is well and good that you see and fight injustice elsewhere in the world. I applaud you for it. What is curious to me is that you seem to overlook, if not actively attempt to diminish, what the current public discourse is about.
It isn’t about statues per se, though the white supremacists would like to frame the discussion that way. It is about the message that those statues were intended to send when they were erected, and the same message the alt-right clings to today. The message that blacks may have been freed, but they will still be lynched. That they may be separate, but they will never be equal. That the law may say they have the right to vote, but we’ll do everything in our measure to prevent it. That the white man is, and always will be superior. They didn’t raise statues to Forrest because he was such a fine cavalry commander.
Now the alt-right clings to that message, the message that blacks are 3/5th of a person, the message that the glorifying statues of Davis, Lee, and Jackson were intended to convey. We have a President that pretends that white supremacists beating a black man with pipes and Nazis shouting about exterminating Jews are on the same moral footing as those that oppose them.
This isn’t even about slavery, as that question was settled long ago. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone that disagrees with your stance on slavery.
It’s about racism.
You can enjoy Faulkner’s prose, Lee’s ability as a field General, and even promulgate the obviously incorrect idea that we’d be a British colony today if it weren’t for South Carolina. But to use these as excuses to poo-pooh and dismiss the rise of white nationalism, in large part experiencing a resurgence thanks in part to a President that condones it, as inconsequential is ignoble.
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I would submit that of the Scoopers here I am one of the very few whose family was thrown into a concentration camp.
I love it when people lecture on racism.
But my point has nothing to do with slavery. It focuses on the right of the states to withdraw from the Union.
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Except, the Articles were and are no longer in effect. The Constitution completely supersedes the Articles. There is nothing in the Constitution that permits secession as it explicitly states the United States is "a perpetual union." The secession question is answered here:
"The Constitution does not directly mention secession.[55] The legality of secession was hotly debated in the 19th century, with Southerners often claiming and Northerners generally denying that states have a legal right to unilaterally secede.[56] The Supreme Court has consistently interpreted the Constitution to be an "indestructible" union.[55] There is no legal basis a state can point to for unilaterally seceding.[57] Many scholars hold that the Confederate secession was blatantly illegal. The Articles of Confederation explicitly state the Union is "perpetual"; the U.S. Constitution declares itself an even "more perfect union" than the Articles of Confederation.[58] Other scholars, while not necessarily disagreeing that the secession was illegal, point out that sovereignty is often de facto an "extralegal" question. Had the Confederacy won, any illegality of its actions under U.S. law would have been rendered irrelevant, just as the undisputed illegality of American rebellion under the British law of 1775 was rendered irrelevant. Thus, these scholars argue, the illegality of unilateral secession was not firmly de facto established until the Union won the Civil War; in this view, the legal question was resolved at Appomattox.[56][59]"
I can cite legal opinions to the opposite. That is precisely the point - at the Constitutional Convention the southern states did not accept all of the provisions and in fact considered themselves free and sovereign entities.
You need to do more research on what is a very complex issue. Fact is, the Constitutional Convention did not reverse the legal position of sovereignty.
It did broaden centralized powers for many things and, more specifically, addressed issues between small and large states.
But it did NOT eliminate the legal status of the southern states and sovereign entities.
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Sorry, Frenn's but you need to understand that Headband's citation was one opinion on a very complex matter.
Fact is, the South believed it had every right to remove itself from the Union. The North forced them back into it through overwhelming military force.
Headband's citation is anything but rebuttal.
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I can cite legal opinions to the opposite.
Great, I'd love to read them. Spirited debate is good and I look forward to chances to increase my knowledge base.
That is precisely the point - at the Constitutional Convention the southern states did not accept all of the provisions and in fact considered themselves free and sovereign entities.
Just because the South considered themselves so, doesn't make it so. The Constitution is ratified in full, you cannot pick and choose which provisions you follow and which you do not.
You need to do more research on what is a very complex issue. Fact is, the Constitutional Convention did not reverse the legal position of sovereignty.
Gladly.
Supreme Court rulings[edit]
Texas v. White[58] was argued before the United States Supreme Court during the December 1868 term. Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase read the Court's decision, on April 15, 1869.[60] Australian Professors Peter Radan and Aleksandar Pavkovic write:
“ Chase, [Chief Justice], ruled in favor of Texas on the ground that the Confederate state government in Texas had no legal existence on the basis that the secession of Texas from the United States was illegal. The critical finding underpinning the ruling that Texas could not secede from the United States was that, following its admission to the United States in 1845, Texas had become part of "an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible states." In practical terms, this meant that Texas has never seceded from the United States.[61] ”
However, the Court's decision recognized some possibility of the divisibility "through revolution, or through consent of the States".[61][62]
In 1877, the Williams v. Bruffy[63] decision was rendered, pertaining to civil war debts. The Court wrote regarding acts establishing an independent government that "The validity of its acts, both against the parent state and the citizens or subjects thereof, depends entirely upon its ultimate success; if it fail to establish itself permanently, all such acts perish with it; if it succeed and become recognized, its acts from the commencement of its existence are upheld as those of an independent nation."[61][64]
So if the South would have won, they would have been successful in establishing a new government and thus there actions would have been "legal".
It did broaden centralized powers for many things and, more specifically, addressed issues between small and large states.
But it did NOT eliminate the legal status of the southern states and sovereign entities.
That is definitely one opinion. Other opinions disagree. Some even contest the Articles were more like an international pact and the US Constitution in 1790 is the real start of the Union. So States lost their sovereignty when the constitution was ratified. At the very least their sovereignty was placed 2nd to the country.
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Another argument against secession centers on the language of Article I, Section 10, which declares that “No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation….” To proponents of this position, Article I, Section 10 unequivocally shows that the states which formed the Confederate States of America were in clear violation of the Constitution, thus invalidating their government and the individual acts of secession which led to it. Abraham Lincoln indirectly defended this position by declaring the seceding states were in “rebellion” and therefore still members of the Union. The Constitution, then, was still legally enforceable in those states, including Article I, Section 10.
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Kinda like posting a work promotion in both the alumni magazine then reposting it here???
Nice false equivocation. The alumni magazine has a section specifically for that purpose, and I didn't start that thread about it on here.
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Ok, that was great. Let's get back to Arbys.
This came in the mail today.
DO NOT PRINT THIS OUT AND USE IT. Pretty sure it's a one time use thing, and I want all of those for dinner tonight.
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I'd love to work in the Arby's product development team.
Hey, how can we make this stuff better?
How about bacon? And bourbon? Let's try both.
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I'd love to work in the Arby's product development team.
Hey, how can we make this stuff better?
How about bacon? And bourbon? Let's try both.
I'd rather be in the marketing department and hang out with Ving Rhames as he is rehearsing his voiceovers.
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Favorite espresso place in Milwaukee? Mine is Anodyne in Walker's Point. Great espresso drinks and nice atmosphere....
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I'd rather be in the marketing department and hang out with Ving Rhames as he is rehearsing his voiceovers.
I don't remember the last time I ate at Arby's, but their marketing department puts out some pretty funny ads. "If you really want to eat a quarter pound of beef...that's cool...just eat half of one of these." Beautiful (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhPbkyxCdIU). Or, "Can we be honest about something here? If you're getting a regular-sized sandwich for a dollar somewhere, you shouldn't be there. Something's up with that sandwich." Hilarious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-nHtqMNO3A).
Granted, the ads aren't getting me in the door...but at least they're entertaining me.
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I'd rather be in the marketing department and hang out with Ving Rhames as he is rehearsing his voiceovers.
'Hang out'
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I don't remember the last time I ate at Arby's, but their marketing department puts out some pretty funny ads. "If you really want to eat a quarter pound of beef...that's cool...just eat half of one of these." Beautiful (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhPbkyxCdIU). Or, "Can we be honest about something here? If you're getting a regular-sized sandwich for a dollar somewhere, you shouldn't be there. Something's up with that sandwich." Hilarious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-nHtqMNO3A).
Granted, the ads aren't getting me in the door...but at least they're entertaining me.
This one's my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/v/W1iOXGuv9uI
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Whatever happened to the Blue Canary?
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Favorite espresso place in Milwaukee? Mine is Anodyne in Walker's Point. Great espresso drinks and nice atmosphere....
I prefer anyplace that sells turkish coffee.
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I prefer anyplace that sells turkish coffee.
Ever been in a Turkish prison?
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Ever been in a Turkish prison?
You tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes!
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Ever been in a Turkish prison?
Not in the past couple years. Turkish prison coffee though is subpar. Kind of like prison wine.
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Ever been in a Turkish prison?
ever seen a grown man naked? do ya like movies about gladiators...?
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Not in the past couple years. Turkish prison coffee though is subpar. Kind of like prison wine.
Only a matter of time before Starbucks sees this is an expansion opportunity....
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Thank god, this thread is back on track.
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Thank god, this thread is back on track.
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No Matta....
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Thank god, this thread is back on track.
Actually, thank hilltopper.
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A thread about nothing can go off track? Seems vaguely Seinfeld-ian.
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Did someone say train wreck?
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Speaking of, I wish they staged more train wrecks theses days....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crush,_Texas
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Did someone say train wreck?
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Speaking of, I wish they staged more train wrecks theses days....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crush,_Texas
This is how my colon felt the last time I ate at Arby's.
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For those of you who missed out on Monday's eclipse, fear not. The next total eclipse in the US will be on Monday April 8, 2024. Indianapolis will be in the path of totality, so you can witness two awesome events in person on the same day: an eclipse and MU's sixth-straight national title. (Dallas is also in the path should the NCAA want to consider somewhere else.)
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For those of you who missed out on Monday's eclipse, fear not. The next total eclipse in the US will be on Monday April 8, 2024. Indianapolis will be in the path of totality, so you can witness two awesome events in person on the same day: an eclipse and MU's sixth-straight national title. (Dallas is also in the path should the NCAA want to consider somewhere else.)
Damn... if you want a hotel room in Indy for less than $750/night that weekend, better make reservations soon.
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For those of you who missed out on Monday's eclipse, fear not. The next total eclipse in the US will be on Monday April 8, 2024. Indianapolis will be in the path of totality, so you can witness two awesome events in person on the same day: an eclipse and MU's sixth-straight national title. (Dallas is also in the path should the NCAA want to consider somewhere else.)
Meh. I'll just wait for the Sept 2099 totality that goes through MKE.
Jack Wojciechowski will be holding a special midnight madness that day that will honor his father's 16 national championships and the 12 of his own, before he hands the coaching reins over to his own son, Stevie.
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Meh. I'll just wait for the Sept 2099 totality that goes through MKE.
Jack Wojciechowski will be holding a special midnight madness that day that will honor his father's 16 national championships and the 12 of his own, before he hands the coaching reins over to his own son, Stevie.
However, all of that will be overshadowed by the Scoop debate on whether MU should move to Milwaukee's new NBA expansion team's arena or to continue playing at the nearly 40-year old Thunderdome (for which 21 of those national championship teams called it home).
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Ever been in a Turkish prison?
Billy Hayes??
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Just because the South considered themselves so, doesn't make it so. The Constitution is ratified in full, you cannot pick and choose which provisions you follow and which you do not.
How can the federal government be prevented from usurping powers that the Constitution doesn’t grant to it? It’s an alarming fact that few Americans ask this question anymore.
The people's ultimate defense against the federal government is the right of secession.
Most people assume that the Civil War settled that. But superior force proves nothing. If there was a right of secession before that war, it should be just as valid now. It wasn’t negated because Northern munitions factories were more efficient than Southern ones.
Among the Founding Fathers there was no doubt. The United States had just seceded from the British Empire, exercising the right of the people to “alter or abolish” — by force, if necessary — a despotic government.
The Declaration of Independence is the most famous act of secession in our history, though modern rhetoric makes “secession” sound somehow different from, and more sinister than, claiming independence.
The original 13 states formed a “Confederation,” under which each state retained its “sovereignty, freedom, and independence.” The Constitution didn’t change this; each sovereign state was free to reject the Constitution. The new powers of the federal government were “granted” and “delegated” by the states, which implies that the states were prior and superior to the federal government.
Even in The Federalist, the brilliant propaganda papers for ratification of the Constitution (largely written by Alexander Hamilton and James Madison), the United States are constantly referred to as “the Confederacy” and “a confederate republic,” as opposed to a single “consolidated” or monolithic state.
Members of a “confederacy” are by definition free to withdraw from it.
Hamilton and Madison hoped secession would never happen, but they never denied that it was a right and a practical possibility. They envisioned the people taking arms against the federal government if it exceeded its delegated powers or invaded their rights, and they admitted that this would be justified.
Secession, including the resort to arms, was the final remedy against tyranny. (This is the real point of the Second Amendment.)
Strictly speaking, the states would not be “rebelling,” since they were sovereign; in the Framers’ view, a tyrannical government would be rebelling against the states and the people, who by defending themselves would merely exercise the paramount political “principle of self-preservation.”
The Constitution itself is silent on the subject, but since secession was an established right, it didn’t have to be reaffirmed. More telling still, even the bitterest opponents of the Constitution never accused it of denying the right of secession.
Three states ratified the Constitution with the provision that they could later secede if they chose; the other ten states accepted this condition as valid.
Early in the nineteenth century, some Northerners favored secession to spare their states the ignominy of union with the slave states. Later, others who wanted to remain in the Union recognized the right of the South to secede; Abraham Lincoln had many of them arrested as “traitors.” According to his ideology, an entire state could be guilty of “treason” and “rebellion.” The Constitution recognizes no such possibility.
Long before he ran for president, Lincoln himself had twice affirmed the right of secession and even armed revolution. His scruples changed when he came to power.
Only a few weeks after taking office, he wrote an order for the arrest of Chief Justice Roger Taney, who had attacked his unconstitutional suspension of habeas corpus.
His most recent biographer has said that during Lincoln’s administration there were “greater infringements on individual liberties than in any other period in American history.”
As a practical matter, the Civil War established the supremacy of the federal government over the formerly sovereign states. The states lost any power of resisting the federal government’s usurpations, and the long decline toward a totally consolidated central government began.
By 1973, the federal government was so powerful that the U.S. Supreme Court could insult the Constitution by striking down the abortion laws of all 50 states; and there was nothing the states, long since robbed of the right to secede, could do about it. That outrage was made possible by Lincoln’s triumphant war against the states, which was really his dark victory over the Constitution he was sworn to preserve.
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Great, I'd love to read them. Spirited debate is good and I look forward to chances to increase my knowledge base.
Just because the South considered themselves so, doesn't make it so. The Constitution is ratified in full, you cannot pick and choose which provisions you follow and which you do not.
Supreme Court rulings[edit]
Texas v. White[58] was argued before the United States Supreme Court during the December 1868 term. Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase read the Court's decision, on April 15, 1869.[60] Australian Professors Peter Radan and Aleksandar Pavkovic write:
“ Chase, [Chief Justice], ruled in favor of Texas on the ground that the Confederate state government in Texas had no legal existence on the basis that the secession of Texas from the United States was illegal. The critical finding underpinning the ruling that Texas could not secede from the United States was that, following its admission to the United States in 1845, Texas had become part of "an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible states." In practical terms, this meant that Texas has never seceded from the United States.[61] ”
However, the Court's decision recognized some possibility of the divisibility "through revolution, or through consent of the States".[61][62]
In the Texas v. White decision, Chase implicitly reasoned that the Union was an “indissoluble” contract between the “American people” and the federal government, or in this case the people of Texas and the federal government.
All contracts are intended to be perpetual. But if this were the case, how could nine States ratify a new Constitution while four States remained part of another Union in clear violation of the language of the Articles of Confederation.
Changes to the Articles required the consent of all thirteen States, not nine, and thus the Constitution can be viewed, in part, as an act of secession.
Moreover, James Madison argued that the Union was a different type of contract. “We are not to consider the Federal Union as analogous to the social compact of individuals: for if it were so, a majority would have a right to bind the rest, and even to form a new constitution for the whole… .”
The Constitution was framed by the unanimous consent of the States present in convention assembled in Philadelphia, but it had no teeth until the States, in convention, ratified it.
Even at that point, Madison suggested, the States could not bind the rest into accepting the document or remaining in the Union. The Constitution does not have a coercive principle, as Oliver Ellsworth of Connecticut wrote in 1788 expressing fear that only "Coercion of Arms" in relation to a delinquent state. Ellsworth wrote, "This Constitution does not attempt to coerce sovereign bodies, states, in their political capacity. No coercion is applicable to such bodies, but that of an armed force. If we should attempt to execute the laws of the Union by sending an armed force against a delinquent state, it would involve the good and the bad, the innocent and the guilty, in the same calamity.”
Ellsworth recognized, as did the majority of the founding generation, that force did not destroy sovereignty. It created artificial supremacy, but sovereignty, the basic tenant of the founding, could not be surrendered in such a manner.
Sovereignty, in fact, cannot be surrendered at all; it can be delegated, as in the powers granted to the general government in Article I, but never surrendered.
Waging war “against them (the States)” is an act of treason, and as per the Constitution, a State can only be “protected” by the central government on the application of the legislature or the executive in the case of invasion.
Lincoln violated both constitutional safeguards against coercion by the central government in 1861, of course only if the states remained in the Union, as he insisted they did.
If not, war required a declaration from Congress, something Lincoln did not have, and by declaring war, Congress would have recognized the Confederate States as a legitimate government.
Either way, Lincoln violated the Constitution, thus rendering the “bloody nose” argument against secession void.
The “one people” argument was dissected by John Taylor of Caroline and Abel P. Upshur in their respective commentaries on the document.
In his New Views of the Constitution of the United States, Taylor contended that the continuity between the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution reinforced the sovereignty of the states, and declared that, “There are many states in America, but no state of America, nor any people of an American state. A constitution for America or Americans, would therefore have been similar to a constitution for Utopia or Utopians.”
This view is in sharp contrast to Chase, who argued that continuity maintained a “perpetual” Union.
Taylor wrote, “This construction bestows the same meaning upon the same words in our three constituent or elemental instruments, and exhibits the reason why the whole language of the constitution is affianced to the idea of a league between sovereign states, and hostile to that of a consolidated nation.”
Upshur was more direct in his defense of both nullification and secession as a right of the sovereign States.
Published as a direct attack on Story’s polemic, Upshur’s A Brief Enquiry into the True Nature and Character of Our Federal Government is perhaps the last great commentary of the antebellum period.
Upshur decried the “imaginative construction” of people like Story and Webster and insisted that consolidation was never the aim of the Constitution.
In defending the right so the States to control the government and “interpose” their sovereignty to curtail central authority, Upshur said:
"The checking and controlling influences which afford safety to public liberty, are not to be found in the government itself. The people cannot always protect themselves against their rulers; if they could, no free government, in past times, would have been overthrown.
Power and patronage cannot easily be so limited and defined, as to rob them of their corrupting influences over the public mind. It is truly and wisely remarked by the Federalist, that “a power over a man’s subsistence is a power over his will.”
As little as possible of this power should be entrusted to the federal government, and even that little should be watched by a power authorized and competent to arrest its abuses. That power can be found only in the states.
In this consists the great superiority of the federative system over every other. In that system, the federal government is responsible, not directly to the people en masse, but to the people in their character of distinct political corporations. However easy it may be to steal power from the people, governments do not so readily yield it to one another.
The confederated states confer on their common government only such power as they themselves cannot separately exercise, or such as can be better exercised by that government. They have, therefore, an equal interest, to give it power enough, and to prevent it from assuming too much. In their hands the power of interposition is attended with no danger; it may be safely lodged where there is no interest to abuse it.
During the Philadelphia Convention of 1787, Governor Morris of Pennsylvania outlined “the distinction between a federal and a national supreme government; the former being a mere compact resting on the good faith of the parties, the latter having a complete and compulsive operation.”
If the Constitution established a federal government, and it did, then the Constitution did not have a “compulsive operation.” In essence, the people of the states in convention could either interpose their sovereignty to arrest the acts of the general government or withdraw from the Union.
Morris, a nationalist, recognized that the states still held sway when he suggested that the Constitution be voted on by state and that the states, not a consolidated people, had to ratify the document.
The Constitution as ratified in 1787 and 1788 is “a mere compact resting on the good faith of the parties.” That compact can be unilaterally broken at any point by the same people of the States which ratified it.
Neither the Framers nor the ratifiers believed that the Constitution created a “consolidated nation” as Story suggested.
It was argued in all state ratifying conventions that the opposite was true. The Union was made “more perfect” but never consolidated.
The States still had all powers not delegated to the general government, as the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution clearly illustrates, and every State proposed a “Tenth Amendment” in their suggested bill of rights in the months after ratification.
John C. Calhoun wrote that, “I maintain that sovereignty is in its nature indivisible. It is the supreme power in a state, and we might just as well speak of half a square, or half a triangle, as of half a sovereignty.”
In other words, delegated powers were still retained by the people of the States at large for their exercise if they chose to rescind that delegation. Sovereignty can never be divided or surrendered in part.
If the states had it in 1776 as Jefferson wrote, then they maintain that sovereignty to this day and thus can exercise that sovereignty through an act of interposition or withdraw.
As for those who suggest that a state carved from the common property of the United States does not have the same sovereignty as the original thirteen states, Jefferson made clear in his Northwest Ordinance of 1787 that new states would enter the Union on “equal footing” with the existing states, meaning that they had the same rights, privileges, and immunities as the original thirteen, including the right of interposition and withdrawal.
Jefferson himself authored the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798, a clear indication that he believed as much. Kentucky was not one of the original states, but the people of Kentucky had the same right of recourse that the people of Virginia had in opposing the unconstitutional Sedition Act of 1798.
If the argument against this position is correct, then the original thirteen states, themselves pared from the territory of Great Britain, would be illegal and illegitimate. That is not the case.
Secession and interposition—nullification—are healthy discussions to have in a federal republic. Their mere threat can, and has, spurred the central government to reform. Such was the justification for the Second Amendment as well as the state sovereignty issue as a buttress against a too powerful and unjust central government.
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In the Texas v. White decision, Chase implicitly reasoned that the Union was an “indissoluble” contract between the “American people” and the federal government, or in this case the people of Texas and the federal government.
All contracts are intended to be perpetual. But if this were the case, how could nine States ratify a new Constitution while four States remained part of another Union in clear violation of the language of the Articles of Confederation.
Changes to the Articles required the consent of all thirteen States, not nine, and thus the Constitution can be viewed, in part, as an act of secession.
Moreover, James Madison argued that the Union was a different type of contract. “We are not to consider the Federal Union as analogous to the social compact of individuals: for if it were so, a majority would have a right to bind the rest, and even to form a new constitution for the whole… .”
The Constitution was framed by the unanimous consent of the States present in convention assembled in Philadelphia, but it had no teeth until the States, in convention, ratified it.
Even at that point, Madison suggested, the States could not bind the rest into accepting the document or remaining in the Union. The Constitution does not have a coercive principle, as Oliver Ellsworth of Connecticut wrote in 1788 expressing fear that only "Coercion of Arms" in relation to a delinquent state. Ellsworth wrote, "This Constitution does not attempt to coerce sovereign bodies, states, in their political capacity. No coercion is applicable to such bodies, but that of an armed force. If we should attempt to execute the laws of the Union by sending an armed force against a delinquent state, it would involve the good and the bad, the innocent and the guilty, in the same calamity.”
Ellsworth recognized, as did the majority of the founding generation, that force did not destroy sovereignty. It created artificial supremacy, but sovereignty, the basic tenant of the founding, could not be surrendered in such a manner.
Sovereignty, in fact, cannot be surrendered at all; it can be delegated, as in the powers granted to the general government in Article I, but never surrendered.
Waging war “against them (the States)” is an act of treason, and as per the Constitution, a State can only be “protected” by the central government on the application of the legislature or the executive in the case of invasion.
Lincoln violated both constitutional safeguards against coercion by the central government in 1861, of course only if the states remained in the Union, as he insisted they did.
If not, war required a declaration from Congress, something Lincoln did not have, and by declaring war, Congress would have recognized the Confederate States as a legitimate government.
Either way, Lincoln violated the Constitution, thus rendering the “bloody nose” argument against secession void.
The “one people” argument was dissected by John Taylor of Caroline and Abel P. Upshur in their respective commentaries on the document.
In his New Views of the Constitution of the United States, Taylor contended that the continuity between the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution reinforced the sovereignty of the states, and declared that, “There are many states in America, but no state of America, nor any people of an American state. A constitution for America or Americans, would therefore have been similar to a constitution for Utopia or Utopians.”
This view is in sharp contrast to Chase, who argued that continuity maintained a “perpetual” Union.
Taylor wrote, “This construction bestows the same meaning upon the same words in our three constituent or elemental instruments, and exhibits the reason why the whole language of the constitution is affianced to the idea of a league between sovereign states, and hostile to that of a consolidated nation.”
Upshur was more direct in his defense of both nullification and secession as a right of the sovereign States.
Published as a direct attack on Story’s polemic, Upshur’s A Brief Enquiry into the True Nature and Character of Our Federal Government is perhaps the last great commentary of the antebellum period.
Upshur decried the “imaginative construction” of people like Story and Webster and insisted that consolidation was never the aim of the Constitution.
In defending the right so the States to control the government and “interpose” their sovereignty to curtail central authority, Upshur said:
"The checking and controlling influences which afford safety to public liberty, are not to be found in the government itself. The people cannot always protect themselves against their rulers; if they could, no free government, in past times, would have been overthrown.
Power and patronage cannot easily be so limited and defined, as to rob them of their corrupting influences over the public mind. It is truly and wisely remarked by the Federalist, that “a power over a man’s subsistence is a power over his will.”
As little as possible of this power should be entrusted to the federal government, and even that little should be watched by a power authorized and competent to arrest its abuses. That power can be found only in the states.
In this consists the great superiority of the federative system over every other. In that system, the federal government is responsible, not directly to the people en masse, but to the people in their character of distinct political corporations. However easy it may be to steal power from the people, governments do not so readily yield it to one another.
The confederated states confer on their common government only such power as they themselves cannot separately exercise, or such as can be better exercised by that government. They have, therefore, an equal interest, to give it power enough, and to prevent it from assuming too much. In their hands the power of interposition is attended with no danger; it may be safely lodged where there is no interest to abuse it.
During the Philadelphia Convention of 1787, Governor Morris of Pennsylvania outlined “the distinction between a federal and a national supreme government; the former being a mere compact resting on the good faith of the parties, the latter having a complete and compulsive operation.”
If the Constitution established a federal government, and it did, then the Constitution did not have a “compulsive operation.” In essence, the people of the states in convention could either interpose their sovereignty to arrest the acts of the general government or withdraw from the Union.
Morris, a nationalist, recognized that the states still held sway when he suggested that the Constitution be voted on by state and that the states, not a consolidated people, had to ratify the document.
The Constitution as ratified in 1787 and 1788 is “a mere compact resting on the good faith of the parties.” That compact can be unilaterally broken at any point by the same people of the States which ratified it.
Neither the Framers nor the ratifiers believed that the Constitution created a “consolidated nation” as Story suggested.
It was argued in all state ratifying conventions that the opposite was true. The Union was made “more perfect” but never consolidated.
The States still had all powers not delegated to the general government, as the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution clearly illustrates, and every State proposed a “Tenth Amendment” in their suggested bill of rights in the months after ratification.
John C. Calhoun wrote that, “I maintain that sovereignty is in its nature indivisible. It is the supreme power in a state, and we might just as well speak of half a square, or half a triangle, as of half a sovereignty.”
In other words, delegated powers were still retained by the people of the States at large for their exercise if they chose to rescind that delegation. Sovereignty can never be divided or surrendered in part.
If the states had it in 1776 as Jefferson wrote, then they maintain that sovereignty to this day and thus can exercise that sovereignty through an act of interposition or withdraw.
As for those who suggest that a state carved from the common property of the United States does not have the same sovereignty as the original thirteen states, Jefferson made clear in his Northwest Ordinance of 1787 that new states would enter the Union on “equal footing” with the existing states, meaning that they had the same rights, privileges, and immunities as the original thirteen, including the right of interposition and withdrawal.
Jefferson himself authored the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798, a clear indication that he believed as much. Kentucky was not one of the original states, but the people of Kentucky had the same right of recourse that the people of Virginia had in opposing the unconstitutional Sedition Act of 1798.
If the argument against this position is correct, then the original thirteen states, themselves pared from the territory of Great Britain, would be illegal and illegitimate. That is not the case.
Secession and interposition—nullification—are healthy discussions to have in a federal republic. Their mere threat can, and has, spurred the central government to reform. Such was the justification for the Second Amendment as well as the state sovereignty issue as a buttress against a too powerful and unjust central government.
Keefe, how's the Arbys in Seattle?
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Keefe, how's the Arbys in Seattle?
I stopped there, entirely because of the NM thread endorsements. It was after 1400 and I was thrilled to find that they have a very robust $1 "Happy Hour" menu.
A couple Jalapeno Beefs washed down by an Orange Dreamsicle shake...all for $3.
A man can do worse. A lot worse I tell you.
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Next week I am in Green Bay for a couple of days on business, and get to entertain some customers.
What's the best steakhouse in Green Bay? Favre's Steakhouse, Republic Chophouse or Prime Quarter.
This will be my first meal post Whole30. It should test of fortitude for the digestive system.
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Next week I am in Green Bay for a couple of days on business, and get to entertain some customers.
What's the best steakhouse in Green Bay? Favre's Steakhouse, Republic Chophouse or Prime Quarter.
This will be my first meal post Whole30. It should test of fortitude for the digestive system.
So what? Arby's isn't good enough for your clients??
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So what? Arby's isn't good enough for your clients??
They don't serve Hendrick's at Arbys. Haven't had a whiff of booze for 30 days.
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They don't serve Hendrick's at Arbys. Haven't had a whiff of booze for 30 days.
Hendricks is great but, after a 30 day dry spell, I would slake my thirst with some Laphroaig!
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BTW, the brisket was outstanding. I tried to post a pic but it didn't take. But 14 pounds went fast.
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Next week I am in Green Bay for a couple of days on business, and get to entertain some customers.
What's the best steakhouse in Green Bay? Favre's Steakhouse, Republic Chophouse or Prime Quarter.
This will be my first meal post Whole30. It should test of fortitude for the digestive system.
Did you have dinner at Des Moines?
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ND sucks.
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Next week I am in Green Bay for a couple of days on business, and get to entertain some customers.
What's the best steakhouse in Green Bay? Favre's Steakhouse, Republic Chophouse or Prime Quarter.
This will be my first meal post Whole30. It should test of fortitude for the digestive system.
If your clients want to geek out on Packers stuff, take them to Favre's (which may go by a new name now as the liscensing deal is close to expiring).
If they are more "the scene" type guys, take them to Republic. It's downtown and a little cooler.
Food at both is fine. Not outstanding but solid. I would avoid Prime Q.
Where you really should take them is Chives in Suamico. Just 10-15 north of Lambeau. They have 2-3 really nice steaks plus other items. Last week I had their steak frites which was a huge ribeye. A guy in my group had the filet and really liked it.
It's an old farmhouse and hands down the best meal in GB.
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How can the federal government be prevented from usurping powers that the Constitution doesn’t grant to it? It’s an alarming fact that few Americans ask this question anymore.
The people's ultimate defense against the federal government is the right of secession.
Most people assume that the Civil War settled that. But superior force proves nothing. If there was a right of secession before that war, it should be just as valid now. It wasn’t negated because Northern munitions factories were more efficient than Southern ones.
Among the Founding Fathers there was no doubt. The United States had just seceded from the British Empire, exercising the right of the people to “alter or abolish” — by force, if necessary — a despotic government.
The Declaration of Independence is the most famous act of secession in our history, though modern rhetoric makes “secession” sound somehow different from, and more sinister than, claiming independence.
The original 13 states formed a “Confederation,” under which each state retained its “sovereignty, freedom, and independence.” The Constitution didn’t change this; each sovereign state was free to reject the Constitution. The new powers of the federal government were “granted” and “delegated” by the states, which implies that the states were prior and superior to the federal government.
Even in The Federalist, the brilliant propaganda papers for ratification of the Constitution (largely written by Alexander Hamilton and James Madison), the United States are constantly referred to as “the Confederacy” and “a confederate republic,” as opposed to a single “consolidated” or monolithic state.
Members of a “confederacy” are by definition free to withdraw from it.
Hamilton and Madison hoped secession would never happen, but they never denied that it was a right and a practical possibility. They envisioned the people taking arms against the federal government if it exceeded its delegated powers or invaded their rights, and they admitted that this would be justified.
Secession, including the resort to arms, was the final remedy against tyranny. (This is the real point of the Second Amendment.)
Strictly speaking, the states would not be “rebelling,” since they were sovereign; in the Framers’ view, a tyrannical government would be rebelling against the states and the people, who by defending themselves would merely exercise the paramount political “principle of self-preservation.”
The Constitution itself is silent on the subject, but since secession was an established right, it didn’t have to be reaffirmed. More telling still, even the bitterest opponents of the Constitution never accused it of denying the right of secession.
Three states ratified the Constitution with the provision that they could later secede if they chose; the other ten states accepted this condition as valid.
Early in the nineteenth century, some Northerners favored secession to spare their states the ignominy of union with the slave states. Later, others who wanted to remain in the Union recognized the right of the South to secede; Abraham Lincoln had many of them arrested as “traitors.” According to his ideology, an entire state could be guilty of “treason” and “rebellion.” The Constitution recognizes no such possibility.
Long before he ran for president, Lincoln himself had twice affirmed the right of secession and even armed revolution. His scruples changed when he came to power.
Only a few weeks after taking office, he wrote an order for the arrest of Chief Justice Roger Taney, who had attacked his unconstitutional suspension of habeas corpus.
His most recent biographer has said that during Lincoln’s administration there were “greater infringements on individual liberties than in any other period in American history.”
As a practical matter, the Civil War established the supremacy of the federal government over the formerly sovereign states. The states lost any power of resisting the federal government’s usurpations, and the long decline toward a totally consolidated central government began.
By 1973, the federal government was so powerful that the U.S. Supreme Court could insult the Constitution by striking down the abortion laws of all 50 states; and there was nothing the states, long since robbed of the right to secede, could do about it. That outrage was made possible by Lincoln’s triumphant war against the states, which was really his dark victory over the Constitution he was sworn to preserve.
So are you going to admit that you stole this entire work almost word for word, without attribution, from this page?
http://www.sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/990930.shtml
Am I supposed to be impressed by this?
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Thank god, this thread is back on track.
Topper, I know you are all powerful. Are you to blame for BK becoming an Arby's in our 'hood? I miss that Burger King more and more each day.
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If your clients want to geek out on Packers stuff, take them to Favre's (which may go by a new name now as the liscensing deal is close to expiring).
If they are more "the scene" type guys, take them to Republic. It's downtown and a little cooler.
Food at both is fine. Not outstanding but solid. I would avoid Prime Q.
Where you really should take them is Chives in Suamico. Just 10-15 north of Lambeau. They have 2-3 really nice steaks plus other items. Last week I had their steak frites which was a huge ribeye. A guy in my group had the filet and really liked it.
It's an old farmhouse and hands down the best meal in GB.
I think it just changed to Hall of Fame Chop House.
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I did. Headband asked for a source.
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So are you going to admit that you stole this entire work almost word for word, without attribution, from this page?
http://www.sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/990930.shtml
Am I supposed to be impressed by this?
So, are you going to admit that you do nothing to fight human slavery? Something you express outrage over but don't do anything about?
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I did. Headband asked for a source.
He asked for "legal opinions." These aren't legal opinions.
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Nice catch on the plagiarism, Sultan. Did you run it through one of those databases that academics use to stop students from doing that very thing? Or are you just that damn good?
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Nice catch on the plagiarism, Sultan. Did you run it through one of those databases that academics use to stop students from doing that very thing? Or are you just that damn good?
I copied and pasted a paragraph and did a google search. Real IT savvy...
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Nice catch on the plagiarism, Sultan. Did you run it through one of those databases that academics use to stop students from doing that very thing? Or are you just that damn good?
Cause he's the Sultan. He has powers.
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Wow, I leave Scoop for ONE afternoon - and of course miss Keefe plagiarizing a Holocaust denier to argue the merits of the Confederacy. Haha.
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Topper, I know you are all powerful. Are you to blame for BK becoming an Arby's in our 'hood? I miss that Burger King more and more each day.
I stand accused, yes. I went into the Glendale mayor's office and told them I was a mod for MUScoop, and listed my demands.
I also got a Noodles, but my desire for a White Castle fell on deaf ears, they were like, White Castle? Who do you think you are, John Dodds?
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The invisible hand of scoop is both wise and terrible to behold
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I stand accused, yes. I went into the Glendale mayor's office and told them I was a mod for MUScoop, and listed my demands.
I also got a Noodles, but my desire for a White Castle fell on deaf ears, they were like, White Castle? Who do you think you are, John Dodds?
Wasn't this part of the settlement for letting Bucky Badger use your bathroom as a changing room? Btw, did he leave the toilet seat down?
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I stand accused, yes. I went into the Glendale mayor's office and told them I was a mod for MUScoop, and listed my demands.
I also got a Noodles, but my desire for a White Castle fell on deaf ears, they were like, White Castle? Who do you think you are, John Dodds?
they were like...White Castle....Who do you think you are...John Dodds?
/FIFY
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I stand accused, yes. I went into the Glendale mayor's office and told them I was a mod for MUScoop, and listed my demands.
Did you remember to order my Bugatti?
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they were like...White Castle....Who do you think you are...John Dodds?
/FIFY
I laughed at this.
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So are you going to admit that you stole this entire work almost word for word, without attribution, from this page?
http://www.sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/990930.shtml
Am I supposed to be impressed by this?
Quite pathetic to see an adult stoop to thievery in their failed attempt to build a rebuttal.
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This is a simple but good eloquent explanation
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=923232114386312&id=127225910653607&_rdr
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My lack of ellipses was purposeful. "Who do you think you are, John Dodds?"
I tell people I'm John Dodds. Or Henry Sugar.
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My lack of ellipses was purposeful. "Who do you think you are, John Dodds?"
I tell people I'm John Dodds. Or Henry Sugar.
I tell people I'm Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
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I tell people I'm Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
You're tall, hey?
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You're tall, hey?
5'9". The ruse doesn't work often....
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Did you have dinner at Des Moines?
Just ended up going somewhere quick in the East section, or something like that.
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Quite pathetic to see an adult stoop to thievery in their failed attempt to build a rebuttal.
It's especially delicious that he stole it from a Holocaust denier...after stating that his family was thrown into a concentration camp. ;D
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Just ended up going somewhere quick in the East section, or something like that.
Quickie in Des Moines, eh?
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Quickie in Des Moines, eh?
Kind of a scary thought, eh?
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Come on guys. This is easily the thread of the summer. Let's not do anything dumb and get it locked.
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The question of secession definitely existed from the time of ratification of the Constitution through the Civil War. Anti-Federalists, like Patrick Henry of Virginia, feared that ratifying the Constitution would end the sovereignty of the States. Even after ratification, there was much rhetoric about secession and the right of secession. Sitting Presidents even had varying opinions on the legality of secession. Andrew Jackson, for example, said secession was not legal while James Buchanan said it was.
Did States reserve the right to secede from the Union? Short answer, no. Here is a good read on the subject:
https://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/did-the-states-reserve-a-right-to-secede/ (https://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/did-the-states-reserve-a-right-to-secede/)
An excerpt from the article:
“This idea of reserving right to withdraw was started in Richmd. & considered as a conditional ratification which was itself considered as worse than a rejection.” [James Madison to Alexander Hamilton, July 20, 1788]
"Notice how Madison says the idea of reserving a right to withdraw was considered and rejected in the Virginia Ratification Convention. The proposal to reserve a right to withdraw was defeated in the New York convention as well."
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I've said my peace on the subject. Now Arby's. How about those shakes, hey?
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they were like...White Castle....Who do you think you are...John Dodds?
/FIFY
Why not Krystal's. Southern version of White Castle. Way better in my opinion.
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Anyone else here ever have the banana macadamia pancakes at Boots & Kimo's in Kailua?
http://www.bootsnkimos.com/menu/banana-pancake-kimos-macadamia-nut-sauce
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Anyone else here ever have the banana macadamia pancakes at Boots & Kimo's in Kailua?
http://www.bootsnkimos.com/menu/banana-pancake-kimos-macadamia-nut-sauce
Sadly I have not. Still never been to Hawaii. But I did have a delicious Japanese Whisky while in Paris yesterday.
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Anyone else here ever have the banana macadamia pancakes at Boots & Kimo's in Kailua?
http://www.bootsnkimos.com/menu/banana-pancake-kimos-macadamia-nut-sauce
My rule: never click on a link that contains "nut-sauce" in it ay na?
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Why not Krystal's. Southern version of White Castle. Way better in my opinion.
Haven't been there in decades, but yeah. Do they still serve chicken?
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My rule: never click on a link that contains "nut-sauce" in it ay na?
It must be expensive for you to constantly Geek Squad to get rid of all the porny viruses, ey'na?
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I've said my peace on the subject. Now Arby's. How about those shakes, hey?
Or Burger King's Lucky Charm Shake ..
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Why not Krystal's. Southern version of White Castle. Way better in my opinion.
Do you really think there is a difference?
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Do you really think there is a difference?
Um, the chicken.
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Or Burger King's Lucky Charm Shake ..
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I can't stand Burger King....but this might just convince me to give it a second chance
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Haven't been there in decades, but yeah. Do they still serve chicken?
They do still serve chicken.
Do you really think there is a difference?
Most definitely, the Krystal Chiks (chicken) for one, and the fries are an improvement over white castle. Either way, ideal drunk food.
Well at least when real chili is not available.
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They do still serve chicken.
Most definitely, the Krystal Chiks (chicken) for one, and the fries are an improvement over white castle. Either way, ideal drunk food.
Well at least when real chili is not available.
I am also guessing that Krystal does not have all the weird bastardizations of sliders that White Castle does.
Nutella waffle sliders? GTFO.
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I'd never heard of Krystal until they became one of our customers. White Castle is also one.
When the Krystal people came to MKE, I asked them about the similarity to WC, which one came first. Apparently they were invented around the same decade .. but the owners of Krystal and WC had a gentleman's agreement, Krystal would stay south of the Mason-Dixon line, WC north, and that looks be in effect today.
I can't for the life of me figure why WC doesn't have more than 1 store in Wisconsin. It would be a smash success in MKE.
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I'd never heard of Krystal until they became one of our customers. White Castle is also one.
When the Krystal people came to MKE, I asked them about the similarity to WC, which one came first. Apparently they were invented around the same decade .. but the owners of Krystal and WC had a gentleman's agreement, Krystal would stay south of the Mason-Dixon line, WC north, and that looks be in effect today.
I can't for the life of me figure why WC doesn't have more than 1 store in Wisconsin. It would be a smash success in MKE.
Because of Culvers. That's why Steak-n-Shake failed here.
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Because of Culvers. That's why Steak-n-Shake failed here.
I wouldn't think White Castle and Culvers are competitors. I'd think it'd be McDs and BK.
I think a MKE WC would succeed like Krispe Kreme and Chick-fil-A did. Dunkin Donuts, KFC, and Popeyes are all over the area, but KK and CFA succeeded.
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I'd never heard of Krystal until they became one of our customers. White Castle is also one.
When the Krystal people came to MKE, I asked them about the similarity to WC, which one came first. Apparently they were invented around the same decade .. but the owners of Krystal and WC had a gentleman's agreement, Krystal would stay south of the Mason-Dixon line, WC north, and that looks be in effect today.
I can't for the life of me figure why WC doesn't have more than 1 store in Wisconsin. It would be a smash success in MKE.
There are definitely White Castles in Nashville now, and that is where I used to patronize Krystal as a kid.
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I wouldn't think White Castle and Culvers are competitors. I'd think it'd be McDs and BK.
I think a MKE WC would succeed like Krispe Kreme and Chick-fil-A did. Dunkin Donuts, KFC, and Popeyes are all over the area, but KK and CFA succeeded.
Did Krispy Kreme succeed? They have a single location in Wisconsin. Dunkin has a reputation for low cost and good coffee.
Chick-Fil-A is also much more of a "suburban" oriented restaurant than KFC or Popeyes.
With White Castle, there are a lot of burger joints. I think they look at this market and think resources might be better spent elsewhere.
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Only Krystals I've ever been to was the one on Bourbon Street... not sure if it's still there, but for those of you who haven't been, it was basically the first storefront on Bourbon Street as you entered from Canal (the major east-west route that you see in any pictures/videos of the Mardi Gras parade). In other words, it is/was the first (or last) stop on Bourbon Street for tens of thousands of people every night.
That location had to be a goldmine after 1:00a... wouldn't be surprised if they we're just dropping off a few cows at the back door every night (incidentally, about one block west there was a place where you could drop a few on some cows showing their back doors).
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Did Krispy Kreme succeed? They have a single location in Wisconsin. Dunkin has a reputation for low cost and good coffee.
Chick-Fil-A is also much more of a "suburban" oriented restaurant than KFC or Popeyes.
With White Castle, there are a lot of burger joints. I think they look at this market and think resources might be better spent elsewhere.
Ask someone in Sauk City if they consider Steak n Shake a competitor and they'll nod their head. Ask the same person if they think Krystal or White Castle a competitor and they'll laugh you out of the room.
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Ask someone in Sauk City if they consider Steak n Shake a competitor and they'll nod their head. Ask the same person if they think Krystal or White Castle a competitor and they'll laugh you out of the room.
Well OK. I guess I am just thinking reasons why WC wouldn't come here.
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Well OK. I guess I am just thinking reasons why WC wouldn't come here.
Easy. Low-cost/low-margin/high-volume businesses tend to gravitate towards less affluent, under-served, relatively low-risk, high-density/high-traffic areas. Wisconsin has a lot of places that meet two or three of those criteria, but not all four.
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Easy. Low-cost/low-margin/high-volume businesses tend to gravitate towards less affluent, under-served, relatively low-risk, high-density/high-traffic areas. Wisconsin has a lot of places that meet two or three of those criteria, but not all four.
OK. That makes a lot of sense.
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Did Krispy Kreme succeed? They have a single location in Wisconsin. Dunkin has a reputation for low cost and good coffee.
Indeed, I'm surprised there aren't more. That being said .. I remember when it opened and they had a line out the door for a while. At least, that one location seems to be making it.
White Castle doesn't need to open 10 stores, just one would be super. Put it near UWM or MU and keep it open until 4am for the drunks?
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Chick-Fil-A is also much more of a "suburban" oriented restaurant than KFC or Popeyes.
So Chic fil A is the traditionals of the fast food chicken world eh?
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Was never impressed with white castle. Their patties always felt slimy
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I think a MKE WC would succeed like Krispe Kreme and Chick-fil-A did. Dunkin Donuts, KFC, and Popeyes are all over the area, but KK and CFA succeeded.
I've long thought a White Castle could make a killing over on the East Side. Place it within walking distance of UW-Milwaukee. Not a lot of fast food over there, with the closest McDonald's either on North Ave or Capitol Dr. It's the kind of late-night, munchie fare that would be great for college kids.
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My dad and I would have to sneak White Castle visits in .. mother did not approve.
They were called "gut bombers" in our house.
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Made the road trip to WC in Kenosha 2 or 3 times in college. Went out drinking in Indy in 2003 on the Friday night between 1st and 2nd round tourney games. Three of us ended up at WC at night's end; total bill was about $45. Had leftovers for breakfast the next day. Those are my only experiences with WC.
As for the Lucky Charm shake at BK, that is the first I heard of it. Reminded me of the Simpson's episode where Homer orders Skittlebrau at Moe's. Anyway, I may need to track this shake down.
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White Castle doesn't need to open 10 stores, just one would be super.
Like McDonald's, White Castle has a lot of proprietary products. As a matter of a fact, I know at least one factory that does nothing but crank out frozen sliders.
It probably doesn't make business sense for White Castle to send one of their big product trucks up there to stock one restaurant.
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Was never impressed with white castle. Their patties always felt slimy
You are overthinking this.
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Um, the chicken.
Who the eff goes to White Castle for chicken????
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Who the eff goes to White Castle for chicken????
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You asked what was different.
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Indeed, I'm surprised there aren't more. That being said .. I remember when it opened and they had a line out the door for a while. At least, that one location seems to be making it.
White Castle doesn't need to open 10 stores, just one would be super. Put it near UWM or MU and keep it open until 4am for the drunks?
Always thought WC was for a "higher" state of mind. No WC down here only frozen supermarket product.
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Indeed, I'm surprised there aren't more. That being said .. I remember when it opened and they had a line out the door for a while. At least, that one location seems to be making it.
A KK opened here in Rochester several years back. It did extremely well for about six months, and then the crowds just died. After about a year or two they called it quits.
Honestly, I don't think their donuts are much better than the kind you can buy in most grocery store bakeries.
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A KK opened here in Rochester several years back. It did extremely well for about six months, and then the crowds just died. After about a year or two they called it quits.
Honestly, I don't think their donuts are much better than the kind you can buy in most grocery store bakeries.
Yeah gimme a box of Dunkin Muchkins over KK any day.
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I've always thought of KK as the gold standard. Qwik Trip has a clone donut that's spot on, though .. and cheap. Can't hit that station without a dozen or three.
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I've always thought of KK as the gold standard.
Dude...I mean...I can't even...
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This just in:
'T.J. HOOKER,' 'TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL,' 'THE FACTS OF LIFE' JOIN METV'S FALL 2017 SCHEDULE
http://metv.com/stories/tj-hooker-touched-by-an-angel-the-facts-of-life-join-metvs-fall-2017-schedule
There are 1980s teenage boys who will admit to fantasizing about Officer Stacy Sheridan, and then there are liars.
We may need an NM2 thread, there's so much to discuss.
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Krispy Kreme? Never understood the appeal. Local mom and pop shops have the best donuts but if its gotta be chain than Shipley's all day, every day.
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Dude...I mean...I can't even...
He lost me there too....
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Happy 52nd birthday, Marlee Matlin.
I still want to sweep with you.
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This just in:
'T.J. HOOKER,' 'TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL,' 'THE FACTS OF LIFE' JOIN METV'S FALL 2017 SCHEDULE
http://metv.com/stories/tj-hooker-touched-by-an-angel-the-facts-of-life-join-metvs-fall-2017-schedule
There are 1980s teenage boys who will admit to fantasizing about Officer Stacy Sheridan, and then there are liars.
We may need an NM2 thread, there's so much to discuss.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/6a/13/da/6a13dae88094f5281f4283f31ddaec2f--heather-locklear-tv-radio.jpg)
Shattner: Toupee or not to toupee?
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Never watched TJ Hooker. Toupee. I may as well be married to Marlee Marlin for as much as my wife listens to me. (Enraptured with facebook)
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Was never impressed with white castle. Their patties always felt slimy
Avoid the rat burgers. Indulge on the mozz sticks.
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Was never impressed with white castle. Their patties always felt slimy
I never felt one of their patties so I wouldn't know - what I do know is they tasted sublime. A sack of double cheeseburgers at 2:00 am after a night on the town is an experience like no other. Yum.
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I never felt one of their patties so I wouldn't know - what I do know is they tasted sublime. A sack of double cheeseburgers at 2:00 am after a night on the town is an experience like no other. Yum.
Good stuff. Some of the finest rectal rockets out there.
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Anyone been to Nueske's Company Store in Wittenberg? Worth stopping at?
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I'm not much of a Journey fan, but "Stone in Love" is a catchy tune.
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Surprised your heine isn't interested in da Big Gig BBQ at Summerfest over Labor Day, hey?
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Anyone been to Nueske's Company Store in Wittenberg? Worth stopping at?
I bet is too faraway for me :D
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Niece and nephew both moved in today to McCormick. Weird
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Niece and nephew both moved in today to McCormick. Weird
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Yes
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When they move into Schroeder next year, I'll need to show them how to sneak 10 kegs into the elevator and up to 10 South undetected.
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Anyone been to Nueske's Company Store in Wittenberg? Worth stopping at?
Haven't been to the store but have had their applewood smoked bacon. Would definitely recommend.
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Double Whopper with cheese. The one that does the job.
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I never felt one of their patties so I wouldn't know - what I do know is they tasted sublime. A sack of double cheeseburgers at 2:00 am after a night on the town is an experience like no other. Yum.
I mean the mouth feel. Felt like there was a layer of snot around the patties.
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Hosting my first hurricane party on Saturday. What should I serve?
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Hosting my first hurricane party on Saturday. What should I serve?
Hurricanes
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Hurricanes
Boooo
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Hosting my first hurricane party on Saturday. What should I serve?
I assume you already have a Michael Irvin jersey and a pile of cocaine.
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Hosting my first hurricane party on Saturday. What should I serve?
Whatever hasn't already been cleared from the store shelves?
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Boooo
Ok. Second choice....Strip and Go Naked's
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Pink Lady's at HyVee today - $2.49/lb
Cub Foods - $1.49/lb. CaCHING!!!!!
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I mean the mouth feel. Felt like there was a layer of snot around the patties.
Did someone in your party piss off the server?
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I'm flipping channels last night and as I pass Turner Classic Movies channel I noticed there is a movie from 1946 called "Two Guys from Milwaukee". I didn't watch it, but I read the synopsis and one of the two guys character is named Buzz Williams. Pretty weird coincidence, so I thought I'd throw it out there.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039053/
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Did someone in your party piss off the server?
Couldn't tell you. Someone brought a box of it to a team banquet. Maybe their kid was on the team we knocked out of the playoffs
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Hosting my first hurricane party on Saturday. What should I serve?
Found theses hurricane party tips...will you be podcasting?
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Hosting my first hurricane party on Saturday. What should I serve?
You better invite glow jr. He will probably be down there saving your a$$.
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I'm flipping channels last night and as I pass Turner Classic Movies channel I noticed there is a movie from 1946 called "Two Guys from Milwaukee". I didn't watch it, but I read the synopsis and one of the two guys character is named Buzz Williams. Pretty weird coincidence, so I thought I'd throw it out there.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039053/
That's priceless!
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I'm flipping channels last night and as I pass Turner Classic Movies channel I noticed there is a movie from 1946 called "Two Guys from Milwaukee". I didn't watch it, but I read the synopsis and one of the two guys character is named Buzz Williams. Pretty weird coincidence, so I thought I'd throw it out there.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039053/
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Hosting my first hurricane party on Saturday. What should I serve?
Having experienced hurricanes in 2011 & 2012, they are not fun. Plus that one in 1989........
Fill your bathtub with water!
The first one was before Labor Day weekend and my company lost power, so I ended up with like a 6 day weekend. My power stayed on at home.
The second one, I lost power at home for 8 days, but work had power the whole time. :( We had to take my younger daughter to the emergency room in the middle of the hurricane. That was a miserable driving experience, but there was thankfully no one in line at the hospital so we had no wait. My kids had the week off from school. The family spent the week in my mom's basement who thankfully had power.
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Hosting my first hurricane party on Saturday. What should I serve?
Be safe TAMU!
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You better invite glow jr. He will probably be down there saving your a$$.
Unlikely, I'm about 150 miles from the coast and about 250 miles from where the storm is making landfall. There is a small chance we could lose power or see a tornado but we should be alright. Its Houwarrior you need to worry about.
But tell Glow Jr to swing by after he's done helping out those down on the coast.
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Unlikely, I'm about 150 miles from the coast and about 250 miles from where the storm is making landfall. There is a small chance we could lose power or see a tornado but we should be alright. Its Houwarrior you need to worry about.
But tell Glow Jr to swing by after he's done helping out those down on the coast.
How much rain are you expecting?
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Having experienced hurricanes in 2011 & 2012, they are not fun. Plus that one in 1989........
Fill your bathtub with water!
The first one was before Labor Day weekend and my company lost power, so I ended up with like a 6 day weekend. My power stayed on at home.
The second one, I lost power at home for 8 days, but work had power the whole time. :( We had to take my younger daughter to the emergency room in the middle of the hurricane. That was a miserable driving experience, but there was thankfully no one in line at the hospital so we had no wait. My kids had the week off from school. The family spent the week in my mom's basement who thankfully had power.
Be safe TAMU!
Appreciate it but we should be okay where we are. Texas is a big place. Even though I'm in the Southeast corner of Texas I'm still 100s of miles from where the storm is making landfall. We do have some friends who live down in the coast area. They are coming up to stay with us so we decided to make a party out of it. We'll have a lot of rain, maybe some minor flooding, and a small chance of lost power or tornado but we should be safe.
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How much rain are you expecting?
Last I heard it was estimated around 15 inches here. Houston is expecting 25+ and Corpus could see 35+.
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I love this twitter feed: https://twitter.com/darkstockphotos
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Hosting my first hurricane party on Saturday. What should I serve?
Slickers.
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Having experienced hurricanes in 2011 & 2012, they are not fun. Plus that one in 1989........
Fill your bathtub with water!
The first one was before Labor Day weekend and my company lost power, so I ended up with like a 6 day weekend. My power stayed on at home.
The second one, I lost power at home for 8 days, but work had power the whole time. :( We had to take my younger daughter to the emergency room in the middle of the hurricane. That was a miserable driving experience, but there was thankfully no one in line at the hospital so we had no wait. My kids had the week off from school. The family spent the week in my mom's basement who thankfully had power.
We have an oil furnace and the worst thing about the power being out is when the hot water is gone. Those two minute ice showers are the worst.
The one in 2011 (the freak snowstorm around Halloween that knocked out all the power lines) we were without power for 4 or 5 days and UI had given our street an estimate of a couple more days. I told my wife that I knew how to fix it. Sure enough, I went to a Motel in Milford (hotels were impossible to find and this motel would not take reservations so I had to go there to get a room) and got us a room so we could be warm and shower when I got home to pick my wife and son up our power was back on.
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We were incredibly lucky last year. Hurricane Matthew was a Category 5 storm that worked its way up the Florida coast. It was expected to make landfall five blocks from our home on the Treasure Coast.
The steering currents kept the eye of Matthew about 75 miles out to sea, which meant we had lost power for about six hours, lots of wind and enormous quantities of rain at our Florida home but virtually no damage. Large hurricanes are a fickle thing. You just never know when or where, but you have to prepare for the worst.
So, get your hurricane shutters up, flashlights and really good ghost stories for the wait when the power is off and then on.
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Niece and nephew both moved in today to McCormick. Weird
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Last I heard it was estimated around 15 inches here. Houston is expecting 25+ and Corpus could see 35+.
Stay safe TAMU.
Looking forward to you here for a lot of years to come!
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Last I heard it was estimated around 15 inches here. Houston is expecting 25+ and Corpus could see 35+.
15" of rain yikes! Glad you are far. Been through 4 of those not fun.
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So I got Arby's for lunch and order the basic roast beef sandwich.
What'd they give me? Roast Beef and Cheese.
I got 50 cents extra of cheese and goodness for FREE!! #kingoftheworld
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Last I heard it was estimated around 15 inches here. Houston is expecting 25+ and Corpus could see 35+.
You won't need to water your grass this weekend.
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So I got Arby's for lunch and order the basic roast beef sandwich.
What'd they give me? Roast Beef and Cheese.
I got 50 cents extra of cheese and goodness for FREE!! #kingoftheworld
Maybe get an appt. ta get yo stomach pumped, hey?
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You won't need to water your grass the rest of this yearweekend.
FIFY
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So I got Arby's for lunch and order the basic roast beef sandwich.
What'd they give me? Roast Beef and Cheese.
I got 50 cents extra of cheese and goodness for FREE!! #kingoftheworld
Did you tell them you were John Dodds?
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They just upgraded that SOB to a Cat 4.
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They just upgraded that SOB to a Cat 4.
Texas officials are instructing coastal residents who aren't evacuating to write their name and social security number on their arm with a sharpie.
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Texas officials are instructing coastal residents who aren't evacuating to write their name and social security number on their arm with a sharpie.
People are idiots.
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People are idiots.
Yep. In the CNN coverage from Corpus Christi, you can still see people driving along the beach....
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That's the nephew my son gets credit to get him to go to MU? ;D
Yep
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Texas officials are instructing coastal residents who aren't evacuating to write their name and social security number on their arm with a sharpie.
Death of expertise. Regular folk have been told over the last half decade or so not to trust the experts so, as the Chive says, they do what they want.
I'm fine with the results of social Darwinism.
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Death of expertise. Regular folk have been told over the last half decade or so not to trust the experts so, as the Chive says, they do what they want.
I'm fine with the results of social Darwinism.
People didn't evacuate during Hurricane Camille. This isn't new.
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They don't respect the expertise of the meteorologists and local officials tell them to evacuate, but then they expect emergency services personnel to come and rescue them when they're sitting on top of their roof in the middle of the flood.
And yeah, this isn't all that new. You'd think after storms like Katrina people would listen....
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Makes perfect sense. First responders rock.
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Buying a car yesterday. Slimy sales manager decides to impress me with a story. He grew up in Moscow, Idaho, where the drinking age was 19. He regales me with a story of how Sports Illustrated did a list of the best party schools back in the day. He said that they had a special note that said that WSU and University of Idaho weren't listed because it wouldn't be fair to compare pros with amateurs. He had already pissed me off, and this story did not help.
I recall a similar story about MU, but it was a survey done in Playboy. That MU was considered to be in a different class of partying than most party schools. Does anyone know if the MU legend is truth or not?
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Nice catch on the plagiarism, Sultan. Did you run it through one of those databases that academics use to stop students from doing that very thing? Or are you just that damn good?
Plagarism? Really?
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Plagarism? Really?
http://www.plagiarism.org/article/what-is-plagiarism
You presented an essay without attribution. It was shown to be written by someone else. Ergo, plagiarism.
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So are you going to admit that you stole this entire work almost word for word, without attribution, from this page?
http://www.sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/990930.shtml
Am I supposed to be impressed by this?
You were outed here.
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Buying a car yesterday. Slimy sales manager decides to impress me with a story. He grew up in Moscow, Idaho, where the drinking age was 19. He regales me with a story of how Sports Illustrated did a list of the best party schools back in the day. He said that they had a special note that said that WSU and University of Idaho weren't listed because it wouldn't be fair to compare pros with amateurs. He had already pissed me off, and this story did not help.
I recall a similar story about MU, but it was a survey done in Playboy. That MU was considered to be in a different class of partying than most party schools. Does anyone know if the MU legend is truth or not?
It could have been true, maybe even should have been true. And I really wish it was true. But I'm almost positive it's MU/urban legend.
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It could have been true, maybe even should have been true. And I really wish it was true. But I'm almost positive it's MU/urban legend.
I have heard the same or similar stories claimed by alumni of dozens of colleges, so yes, urban legend.
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Happened while my son was at MU #1 in Catholic school category:
https://marquettewire.org/3769922/tribune/tribune-news/playboy-tdz1-ml2-mn3-university-cited-as-best-catholic-party-school-by-playboy/
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Happened while my son was at MU #1 in Catholic school category:
https://marquettewire.org/3769922/tribune/tribune-news/playboy-tdz1-ml2-mn3-university-cited-as-best-catholic-party-school-by-playboy/
I was there at that time. Playboy wasn't wrong
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I was there at that time. Playboy wasn't wrong
Maybe you knew my son!
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My brother went to MU also. After I graduated, one year I went to visit him with some UConn friends of ours over UConn's spring break. Marquette's break was the week before. It was a typical Marquette weekend and our friends had a blast. They couldn't believe that it was a typical weekend. They were ridiculed back home for going somewhere cold for spring break but it was the most fun they had on any past or future spring breaks.
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People didn't evacuate during Hurricane Camille. This isn't new.
Discussion for another day but there is a difference between people not heeding weather reports 50 years ago and the active ignorant defiance of expertise that has blossomed in recent American history.
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I mean the mouth feel. Felt like there was a layer of snot around the patties.
That's a really disgusting description, but you're not wrong.
Nonetheless, I love original sliders, jalapeño chz sliders & ONION RINGS!!!
I drop bombs nonstop the day after White Castle. It's amazing
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I agree for the most part about people refusing to evacuate. But keep in mind that there are some out there who literally cannot afford to evacuate.
Most of college station roads have about an inch of standing water and the rain is still coming. TAMU has already cancelled the first two days of class. Keep in mind that are are 150 miles from the coast and 250 from where the storm made landfall. If it's this bad here, I can't imagine what it's like in Corpus and Houston. A buddy of mine taking cover in Houston described the city as "devastated and impassible." It's going to take awhile for them to recover. Send thoughts and prayers.
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I agree for the most part about people refusing to evacuate. But keep in mind that there are some out there who literally cannot afford to evacuate.
Most of college station roads have about an inch of standing water and the rain is still coming. TAMU has already cancelled the first two days of class. Keep in mind that are are 150 miles from the coast and 250 from where the storm made landfall. If it's this bad here, I can't imagine what it's like in Corpus and Houston. A buddy of mine taking cover in Houston described the city as "devastated and impassible." It's going to take awhile for them to recover. Send thoughts and prayers.
Ya got a boat? Fill it and some gas cans and go save some brothers and sisters.
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Grocery store was out of Honeycrisp AND pink lady. Rough day. Had to go with Jazz apple.
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Like whom? Any time someone doesn't respond to a FB post or a Scoop post because they know the response will be "You're a racist". That is encroaching on freedom of speech.
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Grocery store was out of Honeycrisp AND pink lady. Rough day. Had to go with Jazz apple.
Bummer. Any Galas?
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so the family went up to north Georgia today to go apple picking. Season just started and only four varieties were ready for picking:
- Red Delicious
- Mutsu
- September Wonder
- Gala
We picked mostly Gala but also a few September Wonders. Anybody have any experience with that variety? Haven't tried one yet.
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I agree for the most part about people refusing to evacuate. But keep in mind that there are some out there who literally cannot afford to evacuate.
Most of college station roads have about an inch of standing water and the rain is still coming. TAMU has already cancelled the first two days of class. Keep in mind that are are 150 miles from the coast and 250 from where the storm made landfall. If it's this bad here, I can't imagine what it's like in Corpus and Houston. A buddy of mine taking cover in Houston described the city as "devastated and impassible." It's going to take awhile for them to recover. Send thoughts and prayers.
Donate to the Red Cross.
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so the family went up to north Georgia today to go apple picking. Season just started and only four varieties were ready for picking:
- Red Delicious
- Mutsu
- September Wonder
- Gala
We picked mostly Gala but also a few September Wonders. Anybody have any experience with that variety? Haven't tried one yet.
Nope. Sadly the red delicious should have been bagged up and fed to deer in the area.
Gala is good but I don't know about September or mutsu
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Nope. Sadly the red delicious should have been bagged up and fed to deer in the area.
Gala is good but I don't know about September or mutsu
Trying to piss off the deer?
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Nope. Sadly the red delicious should have been bagged up and fed to deer in the area.
Trying to piss off the deer?
Someone call PETA.
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Someone call PETA.
Just called. They suggested feeding the red delicious to people who wear furs.
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Red Delicious = Foul Line in baseball
Discuss
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I'd love to work in the Arby's product development team.
Hey, how can we make this stuff better?
How about bacon? And bourbon? Let's try both.
Back in the day the original Arby's shaved roast beef sandwich was without peer. That Horsey sauce was a serious condiment. They have continued the quality tradition to this day.
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Red Delicious = Foul Line in baseball
Discuss
I'd say Red Delicious = Sideline in basketball
The foul line is technically in play, so you might even get extra bases. The sideline is out of bounds, so you lose the ball.
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Back in the day the original Arby's shaved roast beef sandwich was without peer. That Horsey sauce was a serious condiment. They have continued the quality tradition to this day.
That's a really bizarrely constructed paragraph. The first two sentences definitely indicate a fall off in quality. The third contradicts that. I mean, why even reference "back in the day" if "the quality tradition" is still intact?
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Back in the day the original Arby's shaved roast beef sandwich was without peer. That Horsey sauce was a serious condiment. They have continued the quality tradition to this day.
When they actually shaved real beef off of a real round roast Arby's sandwiches were delicious.
I can't speak for today but the "beef" doesn't look nearly as appetizing.
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You take that back.
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Sanity check: everyone extolling the quality of ________ fast food chain is being sarcastic without using teal right?
The only excuse for anyone over 30 to eat fast food (specific to the Scoop community therefore it would be a dietary choice and not a socioeconomic forced situation) is if they are on a road trip in the middle of nowhere or they are clinically hung over.
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https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys
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Sanity check: everyone extolling the quality of ________ fast food chain is being sarcastic without using teal right?
The only excuse for anyone over 30 to eat fast food (specific to the Scoop community therefore it would be a dietary choice and not a socioeconomic forced situation) is if they are on a road trip in the middle of nowhere or they are clinically hung over.
Nope. I love Big Macs. I will occasionally go grab a #1 Value Meal for lunch even though other options are available.
And an occasional Sausage McMuffin with Egg and some hotcakes make a fine breakfast.
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The only excuse for anyone over 30 to eat fast food (specific to the Scoop community therefore it would be a dietary choice and not a socioeconomic forced situation) is if they are on a road trip in the middle of nowhere or they are clinically hung over.
Or whilst crapfaced in a cab home from the public house.
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Sanity check: everyone extolling the quality of ________ fast food chain is being sarcastic without using teal right?
The only excuse for anyone over 30 to eat fast food (specific to the Scoop community therefore it would be a dietary choice and not a socioeconomic forced situation) is if they are on a road trip in the middle of nowhere or they are clinically hung over.
I would never extol the virtues of fast food. However, sometimes circumstances dictate.
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When they actually shaved real beef off of a real round roast Arby's sandwiches were delicious.
I never knew that there were so many fanatical Arby's roast beef sandwich fans out there.
So, just curious - What year (how long ago) do you think they transitioned to a formed loaf product ?
I think I might know the answer
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Sanity check: everyone extolling the quality of ________ fast food chain is being sarcastic without using teal right?
The only excuse for anyone over 30 to eat fast food (specific to the Scoop community therefore it would be a dietary choice and not a socioeconomic forced situation) is if they are on a road trip in the middle of nowhere or they are clinically hung over.
Most of the time, I agree with you. But I could eat Raising Cane's 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.
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Most of the time, I agree with you. But I could eat Raising Cane's 6 days a week and twice on Sundays.
This. Mixed in with an occasional Culver's run.
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Sanity check: everyone extolling the quality of ________ fast food chain is being sarcastic without using teal right?
The only excuse for anyone over 30 to eat fast food (specific to the Scoop community therefore it would be a dietary choice and not a socioeconomic forced situation) is if they are on a road trip in the middle of nowhere or they are clinically hung over.
This is how I view it. Even on road trips, I bring better food along.
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Love a good Taco Bell $5 box on occasion, and I have a fantastic Mexican place less than a mile away from me.
Had a friend who worked at an Arby's when he was in high school (So, 7-8ish years ago) and he said he would never eat there again after seeing what went into the sandwiches. Im very content with being blissfully unaware of what goes into fast food chains.
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Basking in Miller Park right now just had a Klements brat, mustard, onion & kraut, washed down with a Sprecher Heffe Weiss. Ahhhhhhhhh
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https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys
a) color me surprised at the sincerity of fast food opinions. If you didn't eat it for 6 months i bet you'd never go back. The taste is just 'odd'.
b) this account is brilliant. thanks for sharing.
my favorite:https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys/status/882238390569250816 (https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys/status/882238390569250816)
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Had two McDonald's breakfast burritos on a 6 hour drive home on Sunday.
Had the Hershey squirts for the rest of the day and next morning. I haven't had McDonald's or fast food in years...
Can't blame the fast food though, this bowel issue could also be linked to the giant massive hangover I had due to an abundance of Vodka Redbulls I had during the McGreggor fight.
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One Badger I really Like JJ Watts.
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Merging topics to keep this thread on point
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Keeping this thread on point isn't the point of this thread.
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Basking in Miller Park right now just had a Klements brat, mustard, onion & kraut, washed down with a Sprecher Heffe Weiss. Ahhhhhhhhh
Yeah, you go Chili!
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A narcissistic nihilist believes no life matters except their own. Eat Arby's.
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I am going to have a breakfast burrito tomorrow at the Broken Yolk. Best breakfast burrito on the planet. Wouldn't be surprised if Arby's sends some spies over and then starts serving them across the globe.
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I am going to have a breakfast burrito tomorrow at the Broken Yolk. Best breakfast burrito on the planet. Wouldn't be surprised if Arby's sends some spies over and then starts serving them across the globe.
Best breakfast burrito in Wisconsin maybe. But the best breakfast burrito in Wisconsin is still the worst breakfast burrito in Texas.
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Merging topics to keep this thread on point
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From the dates this coupon is valid we can only conclude that:
Three years ago Arby's foretold of a Scoop thread combining the passion for tasty apples with the passion for highly processed food products.....
This prophecy of apple/fast food passion came to be in a thread titled 'NM'....
The most famous teller of prophecies is Nostradamus........
Nostradamus' full name was Michel de Nostradame.....
Who's initials are 'MN'......
Obviously you reverse the initials to get 'NM' because the apple was the reason for man's fall from Eden....And....
Wake up sheeple!!!! We are getting played by a Domer influenced marketing campaign at the hands of an illuminati corporation who's board chairman is Jon Luther..ie..Luthifer...ie..Lucifer!
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ND sucks
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Best breakfast burrito in Wisconsin maybe. But the best breakfast burrito in Wisconsin is still the worst breakfast burrito in Texas.
You still on track for octuplets?
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I am going to have a breakfast burrito tomorrow at the Broken Yolk. Best breakfast burrito on the planet. Wouldn't be surprised if Arby's sends some spies over and then starts serving them across the globe.
Yo scarvin' wey two many grains, dude, hey?
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Yo scarvin' wey two many grains, dude, hey?
I plan to ditch the grains next week.....science
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ND sucks
I agree with this analysis.
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You still on track for octuplets?
Mentioned it in another thread, the mamajuana did not bless us with the octuplets as was foretold.
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I would never extol the virtues of fast food. However, sometimes circumstances dictate.
Preach on. There's not much worse for your body than fast food, but I'll be damned if I'm going to give up my "Big Hac" completely (double cheeseburger with shredded lettuce and Big Mac sauce... essentially a Big Mac without the center bun for about a $1.00 less).
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Just missed Dunks by 20 minutes at Albrecht's. Could have bought some Sonoran right off the salsa truck.
Pro tip....grab the salsa from the back of the cooler for the better "best by" date.
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I spent my first 35 years refusing to eat avocados.
I will spend the rest of my life regretting the late start, but making up for lost time.
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Preach on. There's not much worse for your body than fast food, but I'll be damned if I'm going to give up my "Big Hac" completely (double cheeseburger with shredded lettuce and Big Mac sauce... essentially a Big Mac without the center bun for about a $1.00 less).
What's the percentage of time they get your order correct? North of 50%?
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What's the percentage of time they get your order correct? North of 50%?
100%. It's not an uncommon hack, actually.
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You can custom order at McDonald's? I tried to order a burger without pickles once and was told that they came like that and I should just pick them off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJXzkUH72cY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJXzkUH72cY)
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You can custom order at McDonald's? I tried to order a burger without pickles once and was told that they came like that and I should just pick them off.
And then you stormed out and went to Arby's! Right?
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Allen Edmonds has shoe 50% off retail this weekend at their factory outlet in Port Washington. Loaded up on two pair today. Yeehaaaaa
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Allen Edmonds has shoe 50% off retail this weekend at their factory outlet in Port Washington. Loaded up on two pair today. Yeehaaaaa
Awesome dress shoes, and I love their recrafting program. I mostly telecommute these days so I don't wear them very much anymore, but I wore them every day when I was doing the regular 8 to 5 in the office.
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I am going to have a breakfast burrito tomorrow at the Broken Yolk. Best breakfast burrito on the planet. Wouldn't be surprised if Arby's sends some spies over and then starts serving them across the globe.
I am a big fan of Broken Yolk mega size omelette . Jimmy takes good care of me whenever I stop by.
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I am a big fan of Broken Yolk mega size omelette . Jimmy takes good care of me whenever I stop by.
He was a very gracious host today. Class of '83.....of course.
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Got the day off today. Going out to breakfast and having a bloody (or two).
Happy Friday all. Yeehaaaa!
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Got the day off today. Going out to breakfast and having a bloody (or two).
Happy Friday all. Yeehaaaa!
Have at least two, one for me.
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Awesome dress shoes, and I love their recrafting program. I mostly telecommute these days so I don't wear them very much anymore, but I wore them every day when I was doing the regular 8 to 5 in the office.
Back in the '80's, when chicks in the business world had to dress like a guy (remember when Jos A Banks carried women's suits?), I was mad that their line of women's shoes was not successful.
I am over it now. Yay, business casual!
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Back in the '80's, when chicks in the business world had to dress like a guy (remember when Jos A Banks carried women's suits?), I was mad that their line of women's shoes was not successful.
I work with a woman who still dresses like that. Every day. I think they are suits from the 80s too.
And this is at a university too. A place not exactly known for its strict dress code.
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Have at least two, one for me.
Will do!
Slept in till 8:15 today. Haven't slept that late in years. Might need to have three!!!!
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Back in the '80's, when chicks in the business world had to dress like a guy (remember when Jos A Banks carried women's suits?), I was mad that their line of women's shoes was not successful.
I am over it now. Yay, business casual!
Amen, sistah! I remember being critiqued on my interview outfit because my blouse was pale pink. Oh, and was told to take off my wedding ring for interviews.
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Lake Elmo Inn has prime rib special for lunch today. Ma, let's do lunch!
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Will do!
Slept in till 8:15 today. Haven't slept that late in years. Might need to have three!!!!
Throw in a dab of Sonaran to spice up that Bloody.
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Oh, and was told to take off my wedding ring for interviews.
That feels....sketchy
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NM
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Sitting in Joseph' Grill right now. Lots of dirty ankles.
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That feels....sketchy
Because if you were a young married woman, the interviewer was going to assume that you were going to immediately get pregnant and come back the day after you had exhausted your six weeks of maternity leave and announce you were quitting.
I am confident that is still happening, which is one of the reasons I am not a proponent of mandatory months-long paid maternity leave. It will cause massive discrimination against young women in the workforce.
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Oh it absolutely still happens. Mrs. TAMU once had an interview where the interviewer asked something along the lines of "You're not going to get pregnant anytime soon, right?" But he cleverly phrased it in a way where he was "joking" but he clearly wasn't joking. Mrs. TAMU reported it to their HR anyway, she knew she didn't want the job after the interview.
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Because if you were a young married woman, the interviewer was going to assume that you were going to immediately get pregnant and come back the day after you had exhausted your six weeks of maternity leave and announce you were quitting.
I am confident that is still happening, which is one of the reasons I am not a proponent of mandatory months-long paid maternity leave. It will cause massive discrimination against young women in the workforce.
The great hypocrisy with this concern is that i've seen the exact opposite with men i.e. a late 20's and older male that has never been married is viewed as a flight risk and companies are less likely to invest in that person.
note: i'm in no way trying to say that the two are remotely equal. clearly the discrimination towards women is much more ubiquitous and overt. Just pointing out that people are stupid for all kinds of reasons.
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Will do!
Slept in till 8:15 today. Haven't slept that late in years. Might need to have three!!!!
Even better!
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Lake Elmo Inn has prime rib special for lunch today. Ma, let's do lunch!
Some other day. Got my nose to the grindstone looking forward to a 3-day weekend.
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Oh it absolutely still happens. Mrs. TAMU once had an interview where the interviewer asked something along the lines of "You're not going to get pregnant anytime soon, right?" But he cleverly phrased it in a way where he was "joking" but he clearly wasn't joking. Mrs. TAMU reported it to their HR anyway, she knew she didn't want the job after the interview.
This is true- I had a young woman in the office the other day reporting that her manager told her his problem with hiring women was that they get pregnant. For my part, I've always been upfront about the kind of flexibility I needed from a job. No sense taking a job that doesn't match my life needs.
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From the dates this coupon is valid we can only conclude that:
Three years ago Arby's foretold of a Scoop thread combining the passion for tasty apples with the passion for highly processed food products.....
This prophecy of apple/fast food passion came to be in a thread titled 'NM'....
The most famous teller of prophecies is Nostradamus........
Nostradamus' full name was Michel de Nostradame.....
Who's initials are 'MN'......
Obviously you reverse the initials to get 'NM' because the apple was the reason for man's fall from Eden....And....
Wake up sheeple!!!! We are getting played by a Domer influenced marketing campaign at the hands of an illuminati corporation who's board chairman is Jon Luther..ie..Luthifer...ie..Lucifer!
YES. Arby's offers a deal of titanic proportions by offering free preserved apples. The Rothschilds sunk the Titanic in order to preserve the Federal Reserve (which would in turn perpetuate their banking cabal now led by George Soros, of course). And when was Arby's founded you ask? Precisely 50 years to the day after the Titanic sank.
The truth is revealed for those smart enough to look.
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Sitting in Joseph' Grill right now. Lots of dirty ankles.
Al's kinda place!
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Good St Paul place. On Plato, just across the river from downtown. Meeting another friend there tomorrow.
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That feels....sketchy
So I need to remove the line :
"4 hands, no ovaries"
From my dental assistant advertisement? Will do.
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Because if you were a young married woman, the interviewer was going to assume that you were going to immediately get pregnant and come back the day after you had exhausted your six weeks of maternity leave and announce you were quitting.
I am confident that is still happening, which is one of the reasons I am not a proponent of mandatory months-long paid maternity leave. It will cause massive discrimination against young women in the workforce.
We are delighted to hire women. In general ,they are more conscientious workers then men.
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So I need to remove the line :
"4 hands, no ovaries"
From my dental assistant advertisement? Will do.
Have you had many applicants?
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Drinking ice water Is helpful in losing weight. Burns extra calories.
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Drinking ice water Is helpful in losing weight. Burns extra calories.
Yeah. About 8 of them.
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Yeah. About 8 of them.
Maybe 10 if you drink a really big glass....
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Duke continues to get Rich.
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Having Sonoran Salsa on the deck with the family. Life is good.
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Having Sonoran Salsa on the deck with the family. Life is good.
And a beautiful evening. Enjoy!
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Having Sonoran Salsa on the deck with the family. Life is good.
Did two racks of BBQ ribs, couple of my brother's Blonde Ale and red wine life is good ;D
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Best breakfast burrito in Wisconsin maybe. But the best breakfast burrito in Wisconsin is still the worst breakfast burrito in Texas.
I'm sorry, but how is this not racist? Is it because the Mexican ex-pats who live in Wisconsin aren't as "Mexican" as the ones living in Texas? Is it because Mexican culture isn't important anywhere other than in Texas? Is it because cultural appropriation is ok as long as your state borders the country?
And don't try the "we just make it better down here BS..." food culture in Texas is easily bottom five in the US and can be summed up in one sentence: "make the plate bigger and slather a bunch of sauce on it."
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I'm sorry, but how is this not racist? Is it because the Mexican ex-pats who live in Wisconsin aren't as "Mexican" as the ones living in Texas? Is it because Mexican culture isn't important anywhere other than in Texas? Is it because cultural appropriation is ok as long as your state borders the country?
And don't try the "we just make it better down here BS..." food culture in Texas is easily bottom five in the US and can be summed up in one sentence: "make the plate bigger and slather a bunch of sauce on it."
It's all about the peppers, ai-na?
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I'm sorry, but how is this not racist? Is it because the Mexican ex-pats who live in Wisconsin aren't as "Mexican" as the ones living in Texas? Is it because Mexican culture isn't important anywhere other than in Texas? Is it because cultural appropriation is ok as long as your state borders the country?
And don't try the "we just make it better down here BS..." food culture in Texas is easily bottom five in the US and can be summed up in one sentence: "make the plate bigger and slather a bunch of sauce on it."
I've lived about equal amounts of time in Chicago and in Texas. Mexican food in Chicago >>> Mexican food in Texas, i.e. Tex-Mex, i.e., dump chili powder into food and call it a cuisine.
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Don't they consider fried chicken tenders in College Station a food group?
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I've lived about equal amounts of time in Chicago and in Texas. Mexican food in Chicago >>> Mexican food in Texas, i.e. Tex-Mex, i.e., dump chili powder into food and call it a cuisine.
Tex Mex and Mexican is not the same thing. Tex Mex is crap. But the Mexican food in Texas is sublime.
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Don't they consider fried chicken tenders in College Station a food group?
They do. Its mostly because everyone is obsessed with Layne's because it is Aggie owned and operated. I'm one of the few who realizes that Layne's has dried out chicken and ore ida fries that they buy in bulk from HEB. Cane's is far superior.
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Can confirm, Texas food sucks.
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Back in the day before internet etc, we used to go the printers to set the prospectuses up. It would be an all night thing. The printers in Texas would bring in some tremendous BBQ. The brisket was superb.
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Can confirm, Texas food sucks.
Never trust the opinion of someone who paints with such a broad brush.
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OK I need to know... What is this Sonoran Salsa you speak of? Can it be bought in the Milw area?? If so, Where??
Thanks ! ! ! 8-)
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Calling Dunks.....
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At the state fair today. Warm, sunny, with a serious chance of eye strain
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Sonoran salsa is available at Albrecht's Sentry in Delafield and the Waukesha farmers market saturdays through October. By the way, you can find authentic great tasting mexican food in just about every state, not just Texas. Sorry TAMU.
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By the way, you can find authentic great tasting mexican food in just about every state, not just Texas. Sorry TAMU.
Yep. Pretty much anywhere you can find Mexicans who know how to cook and feel like opening a restaurant.
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A friend said they bought the Sonoran Salsa at Simons farmstand on Greenfield Ave in New Berlin...TRUE??
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Sonoran salsa is available at Albrecht's Sentry in Delafield and the Waukesha farmers market saturdays through October. By the way, you can find authentic great tasting mexican food in just about every state, not just Texas. Sorry TAMU.
You can find it anywhere. You have to look a lot harder the further you get away from the border.
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Can confirm, Texas food sucks.
If you are talking about Tex Mex, I agree with you. Most overrated food genre IMHO. But there are some great food joints down here if you know where to look, especially the BBQ.
My favorite description of Tex Mex came from my buddy Al, who is a 2nd generation Mexican immigrant from the San Antonio area. He told me that Tex Mex came about when Mexicans realized that they could charge white people $30 for a plate of strip steak and some tortillas.
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NM
After a long day of golfing yesterday, I was starved and thinking about this thread, so I had a Bourbon Bacon and Brisket sandwich. It looked good, smelled good and tasted good, but felt like a brick in my stomach for about 4 hours.
Back to roast beef in a year when I stop again.
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A friend said they bought the Sonoran Salsa at Simons farmstand on Greenfield Ave in New Berlin...TRUE??
No, I'm in Waukesha county but I lost two stores to sendiks, they didn't keep my product, it seems they want their own label.
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I was just in Albrecht's on Friday. To to be back of the store. It's about 2/3' of the way down on your right.
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After a long day of golfing yesterday, I was starved and thinking about this thread, so I had a Bourbon Bacon and Brisket sandwich. It looked good, smelled good and tasted good, but felt like a brick in my stomach for about 4 hours.
Back to roast beef in a year when I stop again.
Get on a probiotics regimine...gut check
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Eliminatin' grains gonna help two, hey?
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Eliminatin' grains gonna help two, hey?
I got to hand it to you 'never. Felt great off grains for 30 days.
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Congrats! You got through the hardest part. Living it is easy.
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I got to hand it to you 'never. Felt great off grains for 30 days.
Careful, you'll starting talking like 4ever soon
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If you are talking about Tex Mex, I agree with you. Most overrated food genre IMHO. But there are some great food joints down here if you know where to look, especially the BBQ.
Agree on the BBQ, particularly if you can get it earlier in the day when it is moister
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Grain-free? If I got rid of oatmeal, pasta, bread, cookies and such, I'm not sure I'd care how my gut felt....
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So, why was Walmart so damned busy this weekend. Went to buy some motor oil. Geez, shopping carts just packed and 5-8 deep at every register. Just a madhouse.
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So, why was Walmart so damned busy this weekend. Went to buy some motor oil. Geez, shopping carts just packed and 5-8 deep at every register. Just a madhouse.
Back to school shopping?
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If you are talking about Tex Mex, I agree with you. Most overrated food genre IMHO. But there are some great food joints down here if you know where to look, especially the BBQ.
My favorite description of Tex Mex came from my buddy Al, who is a 2nd generation Mexican immigrant from the San Antonio area. He told me that Tex Mex came about when Mexicans realized that they could charge white people $30 for a plate of strip steak and some tortillas.
Tex Mex is a large part of it, yes. I don't find that Texas does anything better than anyone else they claim to. I have a yearly Houston trip and the developers down there swear by these places every year, but they end up by large bland. It's actually becoming a joke with these guys.
BBQ? Keep it, other locals are more original and better.
What is Texas claim to culinary fame? Whataburger? I'll take In N' Out, easily.
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Tex Mex is a large part of it, yes. I don't find that Texas does anything better than anyone else they claim to. I have a yearly Houston trip and the developers down there swear by these places every year, but they end up by large bland. It's actually becoming a joke with these guys.
BBQ? Keep it, other locals are more original and better.
What is Texas claim to culinary fame? Whataburger? I'll take In N' Out, easily.
Well if you're experience of food in Texas is based on Houston than I don't blame you. Easily the worst of the major Texas cities for the food scene. I'd even rank it behind El Paso and Lubbock. Austin and San Antonio have the best eats in the state. I would say Texas' claim to culinary fame is BBQ (no good BBQ joints in Houston so I'd give it another try if I were you) and Mexican (not Tex Mex). The one thing Houston does have is a surprisingly good Korean restaurant scene. No idea why but there are some great joints down there.
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So, why was Walmart so damned busy this weekend. Went to buy some motor oil. Geez, shopping carts just packed and 5-8 deep at every register. Just a madhouse.
Neva bin in Walmart. Watt dey cell der, hey?
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So, why was Walmart so damned busy this weekend. Went to buy some motor oil. Geez, shopping carts just packed and 5-8 deep at every register. Just a madhouse.
Doomsday prepping....apparently you haven't heard.
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Toothpaste and dental floss.
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Grain-free? If I got rid of oatmeal, pasta, bread, cookies and such, I'm not sure I'd care how my gut felt....
My theory is that eating healthy doesn't actually make you live longer. It just makes the time pass more slowly.
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My theory is that eating healthy doesn't actually make you live longer. It just makes the time pass more slowly.
I've heard this joke before. My personal experience, losing 50 lbs greatly improved my health and energy. I've slept better. Quality of life greatly improved.
I eat healthy probably 80% of the time so I can eat whatever I want 20% of the time. Plus, you can actually eat healthy food that tastes good. It's a huge myth that eating healthy means you have to eat poor tasting food.
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Grain-free? If I got rid of oatmeal, pasta, bread, cookies and such, I'm not sure I'd care how my gut felt....
You forgot my favorite grain: Beer.
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My theory is that eating healthy doesn't actually make you live longer. It just makes the time pass more slowly.
Well, you just keep on belivin' dat, sista, hey?
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Well, you just keep on belivin' dat, sista, hey?
Tha grainz have infected her thinkin capasity, ain''er?
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Neva bin in Walmart. Watt dey cell der, hey?
I got my 4ever -> English dictionary at a Walmart. Other than that, not much worth getting...
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Sex witches to replace strippers?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4386184/this-new-zealand-stripper-is-now-a-sex-witch-and-specialises-in-orgasm-boosting-spells/
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Neva bin in Walmart. Watt dey cell der, hey?
It must be far more effort to repeatedly use your busted grammar. Knowing you didn't always type like a simpleton, why the change?
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Some posters will contribute to this board as if their input shapes the course of world peace negotiations. I don't and I have far bigger fish to fry. Its merely a diversion from reality. Over the years, however, I've seen the infighting, name calling, penis and vagina measuring increase to an embarassing level. The pontificating of some posters is, in fact, disgusting. No one's chit here smells like Chanel #5.
So, I prefer to make light of virtually all discourse unless its a serious topic of discussion, I'm P.O.'ed, or I just feel like it.
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Some posters will contribute to this board as if their input shapes the course of world peace negotiations. I don't and I have far bigger fish to fry. Its merely a diversion from reality. Over the years, however, I seen the in fighting, name calling, penis and vagina measuring increase to an embarassing level. The pontificating of some posters is, in fact, disgusting. No one's chit here smells like Chanel #5.
So, I prefer to make light of virtually all discourse unless its a serious topic of discussion, I'm P.O.'ed, or I just feel like it.
I feel u kin! (nh)
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Sex witches to replace strippers?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4386184/this-new-zealand-stripper-is-now-a-sex-witch-and-specialises-in-orgasm-boosting-spells/
she's trying to fill the vacuum left by that 4' 7" dynamo, dr. ruth, ehy'na?
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Some posters will contribute to this board as if their input shapes the course of world peace negotiations. I don't and I have far bigger fish to fry. Its merely a diversion from reality. Over the years, however, I seen the in fighting, name calling, penis and vagina measuring increase to an embarassing level. The pontificating of some posters is, in fact, disgusting. No one's chit here smells like Chanel #5.
So, I prefer to make light of virtually all discourse unless its a serious topic of discussion, I'm P.O.'ed, or I just feel like it.
you da man!
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Some posters will contribute to this board as if their input shapes the course of world peace negotiations. I don't and I have far bigger fish to fry. Its merely a diversion from reality. Over the years, however, I seen the infighting, name calling, penis and vagina measuring increase to an embarassing level. The pontificating of some posters is, in fact, disgusting. No one's chit here smells like Chanel #5.
So, I prefer to make light of virtually all discourse unless its a serious topic of discussion, I'm P.O.'ed, or I just feel like it.
FWIW, I for one love it. Gives the board personality
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Some posters will contribute to this board as if their input shapes the course of world peace negotiations. I don't and I have far bigger fish to fry. Its merely a diversion from reality. Over the years, however, I've seen the infighting, name calling, penis and vagina measuring increase to an embarassing level. The pontificating of some posters is, in fact, disgusting. No one's chit here smells like Chanel #5.
So, I prefer to make light of virtually all discourse unless its a serious topic of discussion, I'm P.O.'ed, or I just feel like it.
Mi chit smels lik channel num 5 a'aaaiaana.
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Some posters will contribute to this board as if their input shapes the course of world peace negotiations. I don't and I have far bigger fish to fry. Its merely a diversion from reality. Over the years, however, I've seen the infighting, name calling, penis and vagina measuring increase to an embarassing level. The pontificating of some posters is, in fact, disgusting. No one's chit here smells like Chanel #5.
So, I prefer to make light of virtually all discourse unless its a serious topic of discussion, I'm P.O.'ed, or I just feel like it.
King's English or doc speak no matter - you're a Scoop legend!
Crean sucks.
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Some posters will contribute to this board as if their input shapes the course of world peace negotiations. I don't and I have far bigger fish to fry. Its merely a diversion from reality. Over the years, however, I've seen the infighting, name calling, penis and vagina measuring increase to an embarassing level. The pontificating of some posters is, in fact, disgusting. No one's chit here smells like Chanel #5.
So, I prefer to make light of virtually all discourse unless its a serious topic of discussion, I'm P.O.'ed, or I just feel like it.
Considering you're the biggest motherunnatural carnal knowledgeer on this board who has engaged in a dick measuring contest for years, this is outstanding.
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Well if you're experience of food in Texas is based on Houston than I don't blame you. Easily the worst of the major Texas cities for the food scene. I'd even rank it behind El Paso and Lubbock. Austin and San Antonio have the best eats in the state. I would say Texas' claim to culinary fame is BBQ (no good BBQ joints in Houston so I'd give it another try if I were you) and Mexican (not Tex Mex). The one thing Houston does have is a surprisingly good Korean restaurant scene. No idea why but there are some great joints down there.
https://www.gq.com/story/david-chang-houston-food-city
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Some posters will contribute to this board as if their input shapes the course of world peace negotiations. I don't and I have far bigger fish to fry. Its merely a diversion from reality. Over the years, however, I've seen the infighting, name calling, penis and vagina measuring increase to an embarassing level. The pontificating of some posters is, in fact, disgusting. No one's chit here smells like Chanel #5.
So, I prefer to make light of virtually all discourse unless its a serious topic of discussion, I'm P.O.'ed, or I just feel like it.
Fair enough. Seems like a lot of effort to put forth for something that's just a diversion, but to each their own. Thanks for the frank response.
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Some posters will contribute to this board as if their input shapes the course of world peace negotiations. I don't and I have far bigger fish to fry. Its merely a diversion from reality. Over the years, however, I've seen the infighting, name calling, penis and vagina measuring increase to an embarassing level. The pontificating of some posters is, in fact, disgusting. No one's chit here smells like Chanel #5.
So, I prefer to make light of virtually all discourse unless its a serious topic of discussion, I'm P.O.'ed, or I just feel like it.
Keep it coming Doc. love it.
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Irish penis. Stinky poop. That's me. Although I do like to claim my bowel movements smell like poo-pourri.
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BTW, does grain-free affect penis size? Asking for a friend.
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BTW, does grain-free affect penis size? Asking for a friend.
On the surface, perhaps. But it's probably more correlation than causal.
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Paleo is pseudoscience. Grains are fine, and I say this as someone who has gone down the full grain-free path and even still generally avoids eating gluten/drinking milk.
Eliminating grains is just an effective heuristic for removing carbohydrates and processed food. If you look at a pareto-type analysis, one can get about 80% of results from calories-in-calories-out and adjusting macros. Eliminating grains / processed food will easily reduce the total caloric intake and then also typically increase protein consumption. Increased protein consumption is both more satiating and muscle-sparing in a caloric deficit. In addition, eliminating grains will generally increase vegetable consumption as a substitute, which is almost always good. Last, considering older and less active people tend to require less carbs, reducing grain intake is helpful.
Grain free is massively helpful to lots of people. I'm sure it's been tremendously beneficial to 4ever. Above is the science behind why it works.
My issue is that grain free people tend to become fanatical about the issue. Some are downright insufferable. I think it's bad science to vilify an entire spectrum of food, but if your commitment mechanism requires 100% adherence, then knock yourself out. However, science demonstrates that it's just as effective to hit a daily caloric target, and if you want to go further, set a protein/carb target. In other words, hit your macros, bro.
All things in moderation, including vice consumption of grains.
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My issue is that grain free people tend to become fanatical about the issue. Some are downright insufferable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5KpeRt-LmY
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The local Culvers had Chocolate-Oreo Volcano as its flavor of the day yesterday. It was very satisfying.
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All things in moderation, including vice consumption of grains.
+100000000
I eat plenty of grains...and fruits and veggies...and fats like real butter...and even sugar. I do fine because I am very active (cycling) and my diet is balanced.
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Just had the Horseradish Cheddar cheese spread. Definitely leaped Port Wine as my favorite cheese spread.
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Paleo is pseudoscience. Grains are fine, and I say this as someone who has gone down the full grain-free path and even still generally avoids eating gluten/drinking milk.
Eliminating grains is just an effective heuristic for removing carbohydrates and processed food. If you look at a pareto-type analysis, one can get about 80% of results from calories-in-calories-out and adjusting macros. Eliminating grains / processed food will easily reduce the total caloric intake and then also typically increase protein consumption. Increased protein consumption is both more satiating and muscle-sparing in a caloric deficit. In addition, eliminating grains will generally increase vegetable consumption as a substitute, which is almost always good. Last, considering older and less active people tend to require less carbs, reducing grain intake is helpful.
Grain free is massively helpful to lots of people. I'm sure it's been tremendously beneficial to 4ever. Above is the science behind why it works.
My issue is that grain free people tend to become fanatical about the issue. Some are downright insufferable. I think it's bad science to vilify an entire spectrum of food, but if your commitment mechanism requires 100% adherence, then knock yourself out. However, science demonstrates that it's just as effective to hit a daily caloric target, and if you want to go further, set a protein/carb target. In other words, hit your macros, bro.
All things in moderation, including vice consumption of grains.
Yep, unless you have Celiac disease, of course. Otherwise, if you are gluten-free just take your burger out of the bun and STFU.
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My issue is that grain free people tend to become fanatical about the issue. Some are downright insufferable.
That's not exclusive to grain free. I think every new fad diet has its insane devotees that have to constantly talk about their diet. I feel most exercise programs are the same.
We have one guy at work that has to explain every detail of his diet and tell us all the things the rest of us are doing wrong. If I have to hear one more time about how every slice of bacon is like smoking five cigarettes...
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That's not exclusive to grain free. I think every new fad diet has its insane devotees that have to constantly talk about their diet. I feel most exercise programs are the same.
Yep. Grain-free, South Beach, Atkins, whatever. Once they get a few people following their fad, the True Believers suddenly try to convert the godless masses.
Eat a balanced diet, avoid specific foods if you're allergic (like Chick's reference to celiac), and otherwise just enjoy what you eat....
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Just had the Horseradish Cheddar cheese spread. Definitely leaped Port Wine as my favorite cheese spread.
+1. From Trader Joe's? It's outstanding.
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All things in moderation, including vice consumption of grains.
All things in moderation, including moderation!
Seriously, Hank, you're dead on - portion control (and an active lifestyle) are the keys.
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North American grains are harder than soft shaft European grains. Always go Euro.
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North American grains are harder than soft shaft European grains. Always go Euro.
In before the inevitable 4never joke.
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+1. From Trader Joe's? It's outstanding.
Speaking of Trader Joe's, has anyone else tried their "partially popped popcorn?" Love that stuff.
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North American grains are harder than soft shaft European grains. Always go Euro.
Really kin? Ta each der own, hey?
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This is funny
https://twitter.com/hokie_hoops/status/905149506026647552
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Taxpayer questions and location aside. Credit to Depaul, the new arena looks really nice.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/time-lapse-video-watch-court-installation-at-depauls-wintrust-arena/amp/
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This is funny
https://twitter.com/hokie_hoops/status/905149506026647552
Hey, your alive. So you got dat goin' fer ya.
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This is funny
https://twitter.com/hokie_hoops/status/905149506026647552
Maybe someday Va Tech will add Marcus and a Hauser or two to their tweets. After all, Buzz will probably argue that they came to MU because of the program he built....
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Hey, your alive. So you got dat goin' fer ya.
Yep it passed on a more northern course than expected no major damage except over a million families are without electricity, about 80% of the island and no wifi/internet only cellphones
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So, heading to Charlotte next week on biz. Hopefully, later in the week for obvious reasons.
Would love to try some Carolina Que. Open to other suggestions too. First time visiting.
Will be working near 85/485, probably staying near airport. Will have transportation.
So what's the over/under on how many Waffle Houses I will drive by?????
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Havin' a beer summit wit Nads, hey?
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Havin' a beer summit wit Nads, hey?
Who is this Nads you speak of???
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LXXXII
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LXXXII
What if RC isn't Roman?
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Just ring up fookin' Mike, den, hey?
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LXXXII
So 82, hey?
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Et tu, Brutus?
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Unless he's two busy piratin' or cord cuttin' cable, ai na?
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Just ring up fookin' Mike, den, hey?
He got some good Carolina moonshine???
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So, heading to Charlotte next week on biz. Hopefully, later in the week for obvious reasons.
Would love to try some Carolina Que. Open to other suggestions too. First time visiting.
Will be working near 85/485, probably staying near airport. Will have transportation.
So what's the over/under on how many Waffle Houses I will drive by?????
Charlotta has many a craft beer joynt too. Lots of downtown tasting rooms. Naddy will set you up.
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Really kin? Ta each der own, hey?
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Power and internet at home and at the office. Missed posting from the office 8-)
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What if RC isn't Roman?
RC? I'd be more concerned about 82 figuring it out.
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RC? I'd be more concerned about 82 figuring it out.
RC Cola and a Moon Pie...........
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RC Cola and a Moon Pie...........
Breakfast of Champions!
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Breakfast of Champions!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u7gOq_q0Jy0
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Breakfast of Champions!
I thought Real Chili was the breakfast of champions.
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I thought Real Chili was the breakfast of champions.
Not where I am from.
(http://www.everydayhomeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rcmoonpie.jpg)
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Not where I am from.
(http://www.everydayhomeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rcmoonpie.jpg)
What planet are you from?
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I always thought RC was a Chicago beverage.
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I always thought RC was a Chicago beverage.
Nope. It's from Columbus Georgia.
Fun facts: RC was the first company to sell soft drinks in a can, and the first company to sell a diet cola, Diet Rite.
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This is all wrong, no neck development exercises!
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/906556477921513472
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This is all wrong, no neck development exercises!
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/906556477921513472
Where the hell is the Listerine?
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ND sucks.
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ND sucks.
Chick's post earlier in the day about a product from Georgia was sign of things to come for ND.
Great work, Chick.
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Which one is the bigger issue for ND???? I bet they're confused.
http://www.ndinsider.com/football/notre-dame-slammed-at-the-finish-by-georgia/article_adff1eb4-95ec-11e7-9dd1-0374dfe5cefb.html
http://www.southbendtribune.com/news/publicsafety/former-student-alleges-notre-dame-violated-federal-sex-discrimination-law/article_41499fb7-df45-5f5b-80ce-6b62a1639679.html
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Which one is the bigger issue for ND???? I bet they're confused.
http://www.ndinsider.com/football/notre-dame-slammed-at-the-finish-by-georgia/article_adff1eb4-95ec-11e7-9dd1-0374dfe5cefb.html
http://www.southbendtribune.com/news/publicsafety/former-student-alleges-notre-dame-violated-federal-sex-discrimination-law/article_41499fb7-df45-5f5b-80ce-6b62a1639679.html
Depends on whether you are asking a Domer or not.
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Which one is the bigger issue for ND???? I bet they're confused.
http://www.ndinsider.com/football/notre-dame-slammed-at-the-finish-by-georgia/article_adff1eb4-95ec-11e7-9dd1-0374dfe5cefb.html
http://www.southbendtribune.com/news/publicsafety/former-student-alleges-notre-dame-violated-federal-sex-discrimination-law/article_41499fb7-df45-5f5b-80ce-6b62a1639679.html
It's redundant to say a Domer is confused.
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So are you going to admit that you stole this entire work almost word for word, without attribution, from this page?
http://www.sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/990930.shtml
Am I supposed to be impressed by this?
Give him a break- they don't teach the use of quotation marks at Harvard.
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I always thought RC was a Chicago beverage.
Hint: When you're from Chicago, everything you knew growing up was from Chicago.
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Which one is the bigger issue for ND???? I bet they're confused.
http://www.ndinsider.com/football/notre-dame-slammed-at-the-finish-by-georgia/article_adff1eb4-95ec-11e7-9dd1-0374dfe5cefb.html
http://www.southbendtribune.com/news/publicsafety/former-student-alleges-notre-dame-violated-federal-sex-discrimination-law/article_41499fb7-df45-5f5b-80ce-6b62a1639679.html
Shout out to Rodrigo "Kenny" Blankenship
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Shout out to Rodrigo "Kenny" Blankenship
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Indeed!
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Indeed!
Damn that show was classic!
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NM
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NM
And 46 pages later, we come full circle.
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And 46 pages later, we come full circle.
Just the first lap....
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Jigs or spinners. Discuss.
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Jigs or spinners. Discuss.
Spinners. I have anxiety.
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Spinners. I have anxiety.
Going to LOW in a couple of weeks. Spinners fer sher.
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Jigs or spinners. Discuss.
Mr. Twisters FTW.
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Jigs or spinners. Discuss.
Spinners. I'll be around was great. So was One of a kind love affair. Could it be I'm falling in love wasn't bad either.
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Spinners. I'll be around was great. So was One of a kind love affair. Could it be I'm falling in love wasn't bad either.
Never was much of a Motown fan, but my wife loves it.
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Never was much of a Motown fan, but my wife loves it.
Although the Spinners started out as a Motown group, they had their success after they switched to Atlantic.
But query:
My Girl - Temptations
Bernadette - 4 Tops
Aint That Peculiar - Marvin Gaye
Ooh Baby Baby - The Miracles
To Many Fish In The Sea - The Marvelettes
Uptight (Everything Is Alright) - Stevie Wonder
Heat Wave (U) - Martha & The Vandellas
This Old Heart Of Mine - Isley Brothers
I Heard It Through The Grapevine (2 recordings) - Marvin Gaye, Gladys
Knight
& Pips
Where Did Our Love Go - Diana/Supremes
Since I Lost My Baby - Temptations
For Once In My Life - Stevie Wonder
My Guy (U) - Mary Wells
Your Precious Love - Marvin Gaye/Tammy Terrell
You've Really Got A Hold On Me - The Miracles
Love Child - Diana/Supremes
I Guess I'll Always Love you
Dancing In The Streets - Martha & The Vandellas
Don't Mess With Bill - The Marvelettes
What's Going On - Marvin Gaye
Standing In The Shadows Of Love - 4 Tops
Mickey's Monkey - The Miracles
Cloud Nine - Temptations
Nothing's To Good For My Baby - Temptations
My Baby Loves Me - Martha & The Vandellas
You Keep Me Hanging On - Diana/Supremes
You Beat Me To The Punch - Mary Wells
Little Darling (I Need You) - 4 Tops
I'm Ready For Love
The Way You Do The Things You Do - Temptations
I Can't Help Myself - 4 Tops
Roadrunner - Jr. Walker & The All-Stars
You're All I Need To Get By - Temptations
You Can't Hurry Love - Diana/Supremes
Shop Around - The Miracles
Ain't To Proud To Beg - Temptations
My Cherie Amour - Stevie Wonder
It's The Same Old Song - 4 Tops
How Sweet It Is - Marvin Gaye
Take Me In Your Arms (And Rock Me A Little While) - Brenda Holloway
Ain't No Mountain High Enough (2 recordings) - Marvin Gaye/Tammy
Terrell,
Diana/Supremes
My Baby Must Be A Magician - The Marvelettes
Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart - Diana/Supremes
Beauty Is Only Skin Deep - Temptations
Ask The Lonely - 4 Tops
Going To A Go-Go - The Miracles
I was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder
Hitch Hike - Marvin Gaye
I Second That Emotion - The Miracles
Please Mr. Postman - The Marvelettes
Jimmy Mack (U) - Martha & The Vandellas
I Hear A Symphony - Diana/Supremes
Shake Me, Wake Me (When It's Over) - 4 Tops
I'm Gonna Make You Love Me - Temptations
Get Ready - Temptations
The Hunter Gets Captured By The Game
Stop! In The Name Of Love - Diana/Supremes
That's What Love Is Made Of
Nowhere To Run - Martha & The Vandellas
Seven Rooms Of Gloom - 4 Tops
Pride & Joy - Marvin Gaye
(I Know) I'm Losing You - Temptations
Two Lovers - Mary Wells
I'll Turn To Stone - 4 Tops
Come See About Me - Diana/Supremes
Stubborn Kind Of Fellow - Marvin Gaye
How Long Has That Evening Train Been Gone
If I Were your Woman Gladys Knight & The Pips
My World Is Empty Without You - Diana/Supremes
The Tracks Of My Tears - The Miracles
I'm Wondering - Stevie Wonder
Can I Get A Witness - Marvin Gaye
The Girls Alright With Me - Temptations
Shoo Be Doo Be Doo Da Day - Stevie Wonder
Reflections - Diana/Supremes
What Becomes Of The Broken Hearted - Temptations
Baby I Need Your Loving - 4 Tops
Quicksand... - Martha & The Vandellas
Reach Out...I'll Be There - 4 Tops
You Beat Me To The Punch - Mary Wells
The Bells - The Originals
Shotgun - Jr. Walker & The All-Stars
Fingertips (pt2)- Stevie Wonder
Hey Girl - Stevie Wonder
What Are You Gonna Do When I'm Gone (U) - Kim Weston
Still Water Runs Deep - Four Tops
All in the Game - Four Tops
My Baby - Temptations
The One Who Really Loves You (U)- Mary Wells
This Old Heart Of Mine - Isley Brothers
My Whole World Ended (The Moment You Left) - David Ruffin
It Takes Two (U) - Marvin Gaye/Tammy Terrell
Honey Chile - Martha & the Vandellas
To Busy Thinking About My Baby - Marvin Gaye
When Your Young And In Love - Marvelettes
Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing - Marvin Gaye/Tammy Terrell
Still Waters Run Deep - Four Tops
If I Were Your Woman - Gladys Knight & the Pips
Higher and Higher- Jackie Wilson
Boom Boom Boom Boom- John Lee Hooker
What's not to be a fan of?
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I'm with you on Stevie Wonder.
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NM
Yeah. We've heard.
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I'm with you on Stevie Wonder.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/stevie-wonder-at-hurricane-telethon-you-must-be-blind-or-unintelligent-if-you-dont-believe-in-global-warming/
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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/stevie-wonder-at-hurricane-telethon-you-must-be-blind-or-unintelligent-if-you-dont-believe-in-global-warming/
Yep.
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I don't know if Motown qualifies as it's own music genre, but it it does, it is hands down my favorite genre of all time. Ill listen to Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder and Diana Ross over just about anyone. Too bad Barry Gordy was a nut job.
Anyone ever see Motown the Musical?
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Jigs or spinners. Discuss.
Absolutely jigs. I usually go with the neon green with a leech if I'm trying to catch some walleye or crappie.
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Jigs or Lindy Rigs for walleye. Spinners for the big bass. Spoons for Northern. M-80's for carp.
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Jigs or Lindy Rigs for walleye. Spinners for the big bass. Spoons for Northern. M-80's for carp.
Hot dogs for the catfish. The crap generic kind, not Vienna Beef or Boar's Head.
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Hot dogs for the catfish. The crap generic kind, not Vienna Beef or Boar's Head.
because catfish aren't discerning when it comes to the quality of pig anus they eat?
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I go fishing at the grocery store. Am I the only one?
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The new release from The National is really good.
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Hot dogs for the catfish. The crap generic kind, not Vienna Beef or Boar's Head.
Speaking of catfish - Uncle Bud's in Nashville. :)
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Speaking of catfish - Uncle Bud's in Nashville. :)
I've really struggled to find good catfish.
Best fish I've had is definitely Grouper at the Salty Crab on Fort Myers Beach.
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I've really struggled to find good catfish.
Best fish I've had is definitely Grouper at the Salty Crab on Fort Myers Beach.
unfortunately, as you said "had" you might have to put the salty crab in the column of victims of irma. i hope not, but if it was a casualty, they are able to recover and rebuild along with all the rest of the people affected down there
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The new release from The National is really good.
They never disappoint.
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unfortunately, as you said "had" you might have to put the salty crab in the column of victims of irma. i hope not, but if it was a casualty, they are able to recover and rebuild along with all the rest of the people affected down there
They're fine, just waiting on power.
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Hot dogs for the catfish. The crap generic kind, not Vienna Beef or Boar's Head.
I don't know if I buy into the hot dog hype completely, but one thing is for sure, hot dogs are much better than ND football players as catfish bait.
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Might have to go to a Waffle House tomorrow for breakfast while in Charlotte. Could be a fun plane ride home tomorrow.
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Might have to go to a Waffle House tomorrow for breakfast while in Charlotte. Could be a fun plane ride home tomorrow.
The only time I ever went to a Waffle House was in Birmingham. My car was broken into in the parking lot.
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The only time I ever went to a Waffle House was in Birmingham. My car was broken into in the parking lot.
I actually like Waffle House, except for the waffles.
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I actually like Waffle House, except for the waffles.
I took two of my daughters to Waffle House this summer in Florida. Their first time. It was great. Getting breakfast for three for a $20 bill (including tip) was pretty nice after a week in Orlando.
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I actually like Waffle House, except for the waffles.
All about the hash browns. Smothered, covered, and chunked.
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Waffle House, where strippers go to retire.
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If I go, it will be my first time.
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If I go, it will be my first time.
Do it. I in one now in Perry GA. I found them always Good.
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Do it. I in one now in Perry GA. I found them always Good.
82, you in for breakfast tomorrow????
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Best donut place you've ever been to?
For me, it was Red's Donuts in Paducah, KY. Old school, basic stuff, but just phenomenal.
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The new release from The National is really good.
thanks
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If I go, it will be my first time.
You retiring?
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Best donut place you've ever been to?
For me, it was Red's Donuts in Paducah, KY. Old school, basic stuff, but just phenomenal.
Fractured Prune in Rehoboth Beach, DE. Nothing else I've ever had is even close.
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Best donut place you've ever been to?
For me, it was Red's Donuts in Paducah, KY. Old school, basic stuff, but just phenomenal.
Tie between the District in New Orleans and Babe's here in College Station. I've heard Voodoo Donuts in Austin is legit but the line has always been out the door whenever I've swung by. Never been patient enough.
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You retiring?
No, but if I don't post by tomorrow, you'll know I didn't survive.
Got wished a blessed morning about 12 times at the cash register. Do they know something????
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Greenbush Bakery in Madison. Sour cream old fashioned donuts are my favorite. The blueberry and cherry flavors are also outstanding.
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Greenbush Bakery is Madison. Sour cream old fashioned donuts are my favorite. The blueberry and cherry flavors are also outstanding.
Ever been to the Greenbush Bar down the street? Best pizza in town. Been there more than once after Marquette's won at the KC in my most garish gold shirt.
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I was in the dentist chair last night getting my teeth cleaned and the song Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) comes on. So I get to wondering how many times I've listened to that song in my lifetime (I was 10 when it came out). Must be 200 or 300 times minimum I would think, even though I've never purchased it in any format. Then I started wondering if middle-aged people in 1972 were constantly listening to or hearing songs from the 1910s and 1920s. Probably not, right? Something about our generation seems to really like looking to the past more than other generations I think. Then I wondered why.
Then I realized that I must've had a great hygienist because I could think about this stuff while she was cleaning my teeth.
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The Barry Manilow song "Mandy" was originally titled "Brandi" but when the Looking Glass song came out the name was changed.
There's your Barry Manilow trivia for the day...!
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I was in the dentist chair last night getting my teeth cleaned and the song Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) comes on. So I get to wondering how many times I've listened to that song in my lifetime (I was 10 when it came out). Must be 200 or 300 times minimum I would think, even though I've never purchased it in any format. Then I started wondering if middle-aged people in 1972 were constantly listening to or hearing songs from the 1910s and 1920s. Probably not, right? Something about our generation seems to really like looking to the past more than other generations I think. Then I wondered why.
Then I realized that I must've had a great hygienist because I could think about this stuff while she was cleaning my teeth.
Kids today definitely listen to more of our music than we did at the same age. Just go to a classic rock concert and check out the number of people there under the age of 30. Glow jr. and I went to an AC/DC concert together about 7 or 8 years ago, and he wasn't even embarrassed to be seen with me.
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I actually like Waffle House, except for the waffles.
We used to go to the Redneck Riviera (Destin, Fl) every year for spring break. My youngest was obsessed with Waffle House, would have eaten there twice a day if it was up to him. A family tradition was Waffle House for brunch after Easter Sunday Mass. I loved it then, but my last few visits (while on road trips) have left me (and my digestive system) less than satisfied. Thankfully I have no such trouble handling Real Chili.
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Kids today definitely listen to more of our music than we did at the same age. Just go to a classic rock concert and check out the number of people there under the age of 30. Glow jr. and I went to an AC/DC concert together about 7 or 8 years ago, and he wasn't even embarrassed to be seen with me.
I took my daughter to the U2 concert earlier this summer, and it was a great time for both of us. I had to smile when I visited her dorm room a couple weeks ago and saw that she had a selfie of us from the concert on her wall. I smiled again this past weekend when she excitedly asked, "Have you heard the new U2 song?!!"
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Kids today definitely listen to more of our music than we did at the same age. Just go to a classic rock concert and check out the number of people there under the age of 30. Glow jr. and I went to an AC/DC concert together about 7 or 8 years ago, and he wasn't even embarrassed to be seen with me.
Isn't this 100% attributable to difficulty of mass distributing recorded music prior to the 1960's and mass distribution led to the industry exponentially growing?
Taking jr. to AC/DC brings up an interesting question: what's the first non symphony concert your parents took you to vs the first one you took your kids to?
My mom took us to The Beach Boys when i was young (8ish) at the Minnesota State Fair VS. i'm taking my 9yr old to the Gorillaz next Friday. it was supposed to be my wife and i but she can't get into their new album and my son begged me - he might not be the same kid after.
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Ever been to the Greenbush Bar down the street? Best pizza in town. Been there more than once after Marquette's won at the KC in my most garish gold shirt.
Never been there but have heard good things about the pizza. My top Madison pizza joints are Luigi's, Salvatore's, and Naples 15.
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Isn't this 100% attributable to difficulty of mass distributing recorded music prior to the 1960's and mass distribution led to the industry exponentially growing?
Taking jr. to AC/DC brings up an interesting question: what's the first non symphony concert your parents took you to vs the first one you took your kids to?
My mom took us to The Beach Boys when i was young (8ish) at the Minnesota State Fair VS. i'm taking my 9yr old to the Gorillaz next Friday. it was supposed to be my wife and i but she can't get into their new album and my son begged me - he might not be the same kid after.
My parents only liked 50's music. None would come down here. Took my kids to see AC/DC, The Police, GnR, Aerosmith. Rolling Stones were too expensive so only wife and I went (they were not happy).
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Isn't this 100% attributable to difficulty of mass distributing recorded music prior to the 1960's and mass distribution led to the industry exponentially growing?
Taking jr. to AC/DC brings up an interesting question: what's the first non symphony concert your parents took you to vs the first one you took your kids to?
My mom took us to The Beach Boys when i was young (8ish) at the Minnesota State Fair VS. i'm taking my 9yr old to the Gorillaz next Friday. it was supposed to be my wife and i but she can't get into their new album and my son begged me - he might not be the same kid after.
I don't think I have ever gone to a concert with my parents. With 5 kids, we didn't go out much together. My musical memories of my parents consist of us visiting their "cool" friends in the early 70's where the kids would hang out in the basement and listen the adults were semi-drunkenly singing "Hey Jude" and "Down on the Corner" upstairs.
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I don't think I have ever gone to a concert with my parents. With 5 kids, we didn't go out much together. My musical memories of my parents consist of us visiting their "cool" friends in the early 70's where the kids would hang out in the basement and listen the adults were semi-drunkenly singing "Hey Jude" and "Down on the Corner" upstairs.
My father loved the Fifth Dimension and Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass. That's all I remember about my parents musical tastes. I certainly wasn't digging into their record collection to hear some music, that's for sure. As the 5th of 7 I had older siblings who introduced me to "cool" music.
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Best donut place you've ever been to?
For me, it was Red's Donuts in Paducah, KY. Old school, basic stuff, but just phenomenal.
that would be the old House of Cakes that was in Menomonee Falls
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that would be the old House of Cakes that was in Menomonee Falls
Around here there is a place called Crazy Donuts that makes great donuts from simple glazed, cinnamon sugar, etc to interesting ones like the Elvis (topped with peanut butter and bananas) and Samoas (like the girl scout cookies) or with bacon. I prefer the simpler ones and their French Toast donut is really good. Unlike most of you, I also loved Krispy Kreme donuts when they were hot off the machine, though I agree they were not nearly as good an hour later.
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Isn't this 100% attributable to difficulty of mass distributing recorded music prior to the 1960's and mass distribution led to the industry exponentially growing?
Taking jr. to AC/DC brings up an interesting question: what's the first non symphony concert your parents took you to vs the first one you took your kids to?
My mom took us to The Beach Boys when i was young (8ish) at the Minnesota State Fair VS. i'm taking my 9yr old to the Gorillaz next Friday. it was supposed to be my wife and i but she can't get into their new album and my son begged me - he might not be the same kid after.
Really good question. My parents were born in the early 1930s. I never saw a concert with them. But they were cool enough to let me go and I've been a 'concert-file' (just made that up) since I was about 14 years old. In contrast, I've seen numerous concerts with my kids.
Funny. When one's son is about 16 and you have very little in common and find it hard to talk in the old days you simply had sports as a touchstone but nowadays you can add music in many cases too.
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My father loved the Fifth Dimension and Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass. That's all I remember about my parents musical tastes. I certainly wasn't digging into their record collection to hear some music, that's for sure. As the 5th of 7 I had older siblings who introduced me to "cool" music.
My parents also like the Fifth Dimension. Also, Blood, Sweat, and Tears (which as a kid, I thought was a very gross name for a band) and Three Dog Night.
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I was in the dentist chair last night getting my teeth cleaned and the song Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) comes on. So I get to wondering how many times I've listened to that song in my lifetime (I was 10 when it came out). Must be 200 or 300 times minimum I would think, even though I've never purchased it in any format. Then I started wondering if middle-aged people in 1972 were constantly listening to or hearing songs from the 1910s and 1920s. Probably not, right? Something about our generation seems to really like looking to the past more than other generations I think. Then I wondered why.
Then I realized that I must've had a great hygienist because I could think about this stuff while she was cleaning my teeth.
Clearly you could not get that fine dental care in Mequon or Waukesha.
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Taking jr. to AC/DC brings up an interesting question: what's the first non symphony concert your parents took you to vs the first one you took your kids to?
My dad took me to see BB King when I was in high school. It was a great show. A couple of summers ago, I took my three girls to see Imagine Dragons. Another great show, and we had a lot of fun. And there was the aforementioned U2 concert with my oldest daughter.
My wife, on the other hand, has taken my girls to see The Jonas Brothers, Taylor Swift and One Direction. Clearly, I've gotten the better end of the deal as between my wife and me.
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I was in the dentist chair last night getting my teeth cleaned and the song Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) comes on. So I get to wondering how many times I've listened to that song in my lifetime (I was 10 when it came out). Must be 200 or 300 times minimum I would think, even though I've never purchased it in any format. Then I started wondering if middle-aged people in 1972 were constantly listening to or hearing songs from the 1910s and 1920s. Probably not, right? Something about our generation seems to really like looking to the past more than other generations I think. Then I wondered why.
Then I realized that I must've had a great hygienist because I could think about this stuff while she was cleaning my teeth.
Oughta tink 'bout changin' tooth fairies ta someone a little more hip and trendy, hey?
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Haven't gone to a live concert in ages - with or without kids - but my daughter definitely listens to more of my era of music than I listened to my parents'. Her playlist includes everything from AC/DC to Fleetwood Mac to Billy Joel and more.
I've never added a 40s or 50s era song (my parents' era) to any playlist....
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Haven't gone to a live concert in ages - with or without kids - but my daughter definitely listens to more of my era of music than I listened to my parents'. Her playlist includes everything from AC/DC to Fleetwood Mac to Billy Joel and more.
I've never added a 40s or 50s era song (my parents' era) to any playlist....
Let's put political correctness aside and be honest about this. The reason we don't listen to our parents' music is because it totally sucked. And the reason our kids listen to more of our music is because it was pretty awesome.
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Haven't gone to a live concert in ages - with or without kids - but my daughter definitely listens to more of my era of music than I listened to my parents'. Her playlist includes everything from AC/DC to Fleetwood Mac to Billy Joel and more.
I've never added a 40s or 50s era song (my parents' era) to any playlist....
Billy Joel sucks.
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Let's put political correctness aside and be honest about this. The reason we don't listen to our parents' music is because it totally sucked. And the reason our kids listen to more of our music is because it was pretty awesome.
I'm with you there, bro....
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Billy Joel sucks.
Actually, I kinda agree with you now. Back in the day, I did like 42nd Street, but of the old stuff in my collection, he is the artist I listen to the least - in fact, I can't remember the last time I played anything of his. I mainly mentioned him because my daughter likes him.
I just wish I could get her to like some of my other old stuff - Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Springsteen (before Born in the USA).
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Actually, I kinda agree with you now. Back in the day, I did like 42nd Street, but of the old stuff in my collection, he is the artist I listen to the least - in fact, I can't remember the last time I played anything of his. I mainly mentioned him because my daughter likes him.
I just wish I could get her to like some of my other old stuff - Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Springsteen (before Born in the USA).
*52nd Street, and you can all GTFO.
I will date myself pretty easily, but Billy Joel, Elton John and Springsteen are some of the musical tastes of my old man that I've acquired. Somewhere along the line he picked up Green Day, but I swear I cannot be held responsible for that.
We can all agree that Bon Jovi should have never been a thing, and he is one of the many artists I've had to "unlearn" from my youth (among them: Boston, Chicago, Steely Dan and Dan Fogelberg. ). I kept Styx and a bit of Journey in the repertoire
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Springsteen (before Born in the USA).
Greetings from Asbury Park, The Wild The Innocent and the East Street Shuffle, and Born to Run were great. Darkness good too. The rest are all crap. Bruce was great in the 70's when these four albums were done.
Saw him in 1978, 3rd row. Moving.
Now, he's just like Oprah, Striesand, and....fill in the blank. Blah blah blah
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*52nd Street, and you can all GTFO.
I will date myself pretty easily, but Billy Joel, Elton John and Springsteen are some of the musical tastes of my old man that I've acquired. Somewhere along the line he picked up Green Day, but I swear I cannot be held responsible for that.
We can all agree that Bon Jovi should have never been a thing, and he is one of the many artists I've had to "unlearn" from my youth (among them: Boston, Chicago, Steely Dan and Dan Fogelberg. ). I kept Styx and a bit of Journey in the repertoire
So I'm old enough to be your father
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Greetings from Asbury Park, The Wild The Innocent and the East Street Shuffle, and Born to Run were great. Darkness good too. The rest are all crap. Bruce was great in the 70's when these four albums were done.
Saw him in 1978, 3rd row. Moving.
Now, he's just like Oprah, Striesand, and....fill in the blank. Blah blah blah
Saw the Boss in MKE don't recall exactly sometime '81-'83
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Greetings from Asbury Park, The Wild The Innocent and the East Street Shuffle, and Born to Run were great. Darkness good too. The rest are all crap. Bruce was great in the 70's when these four albums were done.
Saw him in 1978, 3rd row. Moving.
Now, he's just like Oprah, Striesand, and....fill in the blank. Blah blah blah
He has improved with age. Wrecking Ball is phenomenal. I probably like it for the same reason you don't. Particularly like the Dropkick Murphy's inspired tracks.
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Greetings from Asbury Park, The Wild The Innocent and the East Street Shuffle, and Born to Run were great. Darkness good too. The rest are all crap. Bruce was great in the 70's when these four albums were done.
Saw him in 1978, 3rd row. Moving.
Now, he's just like Oprah, Striesand, and....fill in the blank. Blah blah blah
Nailed it, Chili, except you left out Nebraska, the acoustic album which, IMO anyway, was crazy good - but that's the only post Born to Run album that I like.
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We can all agree that Bon Jovi should have never been a thing, and he is one of the many artists I've had to "unlearn" from my youth (among them: Boston, Chicago, Steely Dan and Dan Fogelberg. ). I kept Styx and a bit of Journey in the repertoire
the bolded is like saying "we can all agree that tribal tattoos should have never been a thing". Even those Scoopers with unfortunate tribal tattoos can't defend them.
HOWEVER......i won't nit pick your unlearning, but i will say i changed one of my presets to '70's on 7' and the horn section for Chicago is something i totally under appreciated.
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Greetings from Asbury Park, The Wild The Innocent and the East Street Shuffle, and Born to Run were great. Darkness good too. The rest are all crap. Bruce was great in the 70's when these four albums were done.
Saw him in 1978, 3rd row. Moving.
Now, he's just like Oprah, Striesand, and....fill in the blank. Blah blah blah
Nailed it. Born to Run is one of my all-time favorite albums.
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Hey Lenny, happy anniversary. If Facebook is accurate, you really out kicked your coverage.
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Billy Joel sucks.
"We didn't start the Fire"
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Hey Lenny, happy anniversary. If Facebook is accurate, you really out kicked your coverage.
Thanks much - all true. Won the lottery 44 years ago - she's as smart and genuinely sweet as she is beautiful!
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Early Floyd is the crap.
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Just saw IT. The amount of hilarious one liners in that movie really surprised me.
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So I'm old enough to be your father
I mean, http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=54552.0 (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=54552.0)
Statistically speaking, you're old enough to be the plurality of this board's father :)
And a lot of us are married with children.
The moral of this story is all of the bad music that you guys listened to is still so much better than the contemporary options at my gen's disposal
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Funny, I know people who think they know their music and think Manfred Mann wrote Blinded by the Light.
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Early Floyd is the crap.
Meddle is their first album that is solid throughout. Some good early stuff but a lot of just terrible stuff.
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Meddle is their first album that is solid throughout. Some good early stuff but a lot of just terrible stuff.
I meant that as positive. Big Piper fan.
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Last concert I went to: Henry Butler
www.henrybutler.com
2 blocks from my place. Wonderful.
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Meddle is their first album that is solid throughout. Some good early stuff but a lot of just terrible stuff.
Their live shows from 1970 are incredible but they did need time to regroup in the studio after Sid left.
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Their live shows from 1970 are incredible but they did need time to regroup in the studio after Sid left.
Interesting retrospective on the making of Wish You Were Here - since Sid is the subject matter of the album they discuss that transition...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbM2_-JeDuY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbM2_-JeDuY)
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Funny, I know people who think they know their music and think Manfred Mann wrote Blinded by the Light.
They probably also think Manfred Mann wrote "The Mighty Quinn".
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The moral of this story is all of the bad music that you guys listened to is still so much better than the contemporary options at my gen's disposal
Truth.
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I meant that as positive. Big Piper fan.
Some of it is good. Some of Saucerful of Secrets is good. But a lot of it is just too odd. Atom Heart Mother is pure garbage though.
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Went to a really good local (Rochester, MN) ice cream place today. Usually I get the Salty Caramel, but today I opted for the Key Lime Pie just because. It was awesome, and of course it made me think of the keys....
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Went to a really good local (Rochester, MN) ice cream place today. Usually I get the Salty Caramel, but today I opted for the Key Lime Pie just because. It was awesome, and of course it made me think of the keys....
What's the shop? Need some ice cream before watching the Madsen bois play this season
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What's the shop? Need some ice cream before watching the Madsen bois play this season
Flapdoodles. Mom and pop place that opened several years ago. If you're watching a home game at Mayo, the one on South Broadway is about a mile from the school.
https://www.flapdoodlesicecream.com
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Some of it is good. Some of Saucerful of Secrets is good. But a lot of it is just too odd. Atom Heart Mother is pure garbage though.
Totally agree. Most of that early stuff is way too experimental for my ear. the one argument for giving it its due is that they recorded their progression to being 'Outliers', i.e. 10K hours of practice, and without that garbage we wouldn't have the genius. Compared to the Beatles who got their 10K in a strip club in Germany or the Stones who got their's mimicking the blues in their apartment we get to experience that journey.
From an artsy perspective it get it, but i'm not artsy so i don't like it.
also, and this needs to be said, Floyd = with Waters, like Genisis = with Gabriel, and VanHalen = with David Lee.
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Most underrated Floyd album = The Final Cut.
Discuss.
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Most underrated Floyd album = The Final Cut.
Discuss.
I'd go with Animals. You never hear it on the radio because the songs are too damn long.
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I'd go with Animals. You never hear it on the radio because the songs are too damn long.
Another underrated classic.
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Flapdoodles. Mom and pop place that opened several years ago. If you're watching a home game at Mayo, the one on South Broadway is about a mile from the school.
https://www.flapdoodlesicecream.com
Thanks! If I roll into town and you have time for dinner, it's on me.
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Thanks! If I roll into town and you have time for dinner, it's on me.
Rochester....Roscoe's. Really good que.
I'll tag along for Roscoe's.
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Rochester....Roscoe's. Really good que.
I'll tag along for Roscoe's.
OK.. we shall look at their schedule and figure out the optimal time.
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Thanks! If I roll into town and you have time for dinner, it's on me.
Sounds like a plan. Should be interesting to see the Madsens....
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Funny story. One of my best friends from 11th floor McCormick went to his high school reunion in New Jersey. He asked to buy a year book because he had lost his. The response was, "are you an idiot? Don't you know they are collectors' items? " Evidently when my friend was a senior in high school,Bon Jovi was a freshman and then dropped out. So this was the only high school year book that he was in. My friend said, "I went to school with Bon Jovi?" They said, "Yes, his name was Jon Bon Giovani". My friend said, " Little John Bon Giovani was Bon Jovi?" He had no idea.
Okay so not that funny, but pretty good.
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My senior yearbook was stolen in a break-in. No famous people in my school (that I'm aware of
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Pagong 4ever
https://twitter.com/dwyanewade/status/909188665875877888
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Pagong 4ever
https://twitter.com/dwyanewade/status/909188665875877888
Check your messages.
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I dunno, butt, #3 is pretty athletic doe. Just sayin', hey?
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My senior yearbook was stolen in a break-in. No famous people in my school (that I'm aware of
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Meddle is their first album that is solid throughout. Some good early stuff but a lot of just terrible stuff.
"Echoes" is incredible. First heard it watching "Live at Pompeii" and it blew me away.
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Please tell me they took everything.
Unfortunately, yes. The yearbook just happened to be in a box with other stuff, and it was something the thieves could grab fast and get out. Probably ended up in a dumpster.....
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Unfortunately, yes. The yearbook just happened to be in a box with other stuff, and it was something the thieves could grab fast and get out. Probably ended up in a dumpster.....
Sorry, Goooo, didn't mean to make light of a break in - should have figured it was something like this.
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Check your messages.
Sent you the #
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Sorry, Goooo, didn't mean to make light of a break in - should have figured it was something like this.
No worries. It was decades ago. At the time, I was mostly pissed about the TV, clothes and stuff, but that all woulda been long gone by now anyway. After all these years, the HS yearbook is the only thing I wish I could get back....
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Flapdoodles. Mom and pop place that opened several years ago. If you're watching a home game at Mayo, the one on South Broadway is about a mile from the school.
https://www.flapdoodlesicecream.com
Flapdoodle's Salted Caramel is very good!
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No worries. It was decades ago. At the time, I was mostly pissed about the TV, clothes and stuff, but that all woulda been long gone by now anyway. After all these years, the HS yearbook is the only thing I wish I could get back....
Funny how when things like that happen, a first reaction is often to fret about the cost of things. With time, one realizes that it's the things of value that are most missed.
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Funny how when things like that happen, a first reaction is often to fret about the cost of things. With time, one realizes that it's the things of value that are most missed.
What's that quote about people who know the price of everything but the value of nothing?
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What's that quote about people who know the price of everything but the value of nothing?
Oscar Wilde: "a cynic is a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing."
Indeed.
Anyone else seen Wilde's gravesite - at Pere Lachaise Cemetery in Paris? Lots of famous people there....
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Oscar Wilde: "a cynic is a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing."
Indeed.
Anyone else seen Wilde's gravesite - at Pere Lachaise Cemetery in Paris? Lots of famous people there....
"This wallpaper is terrible...one of us will have to go'"
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Anyone else seen Wilde's gravesite - at Pere Lachaise Cemetery in Paris? Lots of famous people there....
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Jim Morrison's gravestone is also in this cemetery but we all know that Jim is still alive. He worked on a horse farm in Oregon until he moved back to France and now, at age 73, resides in an Assisted Living Facility in Paris.
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"This wallpaper is terrible...one of us will have to go'"
Epic final words!
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Just put some Habenero Sonoran Salsa on my ground turkey tacos. Hot damn, I don't deserve to live this good.
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News - stay safe in PR.
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News - stay safe in PR.
Thanks! Southern side of the Island looks like might be spared 150 mph winds. We might get 100 mph. East and north (San Juan) will probably be hit real hard. This Warrior is ready, might have to live with wine, brother's blond ale, good cheese, olives, some good ham, tuna during 24-48 hours. Then no power so BBQ time, ribs, steak etc. Just hope is not the 4 weeks without power they are predicting. I'll keep you posted for as long as I can it is supposed to hit early Wednesday.
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Anyone else seen Wilde's gravesite - at Pere Lachaise Cemetery in Paris? Lots of famous people there....
Jim Morrison's gravestone is also in this cemetery but we all know that Jim is still alive. He worked on a horse farm in Oregon until he moved back to France and now, at age 73, resides in an Assisted Living Facility in Paris.
When I visited Morrison's grave my friend thought it would be funny to light a cigarette off one of the votive candles someone left on the grave.
I still laugh at a grave that read FAMILLE HOMER and the someone scratched SIMPSON underneath.
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Stay safe news!
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Stay safe news!
Thanks, not looking terrible for the city where I live but still 100 mph winds for about 4 hrs, tropical storm winds for another 10 and at least 10" of rain. Crossing my fingers it goes north a bit more, but don't look like it, east coast and San Juan could get 160 mph winds if it happens it will be bad.
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When I visited Morrison's grave my friend thought it would be funny to light a cigarette off one of the votive candles someone left on the grave.
I still laugh at a grave that read FAMILLE HOMER and the someone scratched SIMPSON underneath.
I was surprised by how out of the way Morrison's grave was, and how it was kinda squeezed between others. Nothing compared to Wilde's in terms of size and location.
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Just put some Habenero Sonoran Salsa on my ground turkey tacos. Hot damn, I don't deserve to live this good.
I bought 25# of Hatch green chiles this year -- straight from New Mexico. I split them with a co-worker, and now I'm wishing I would have saved all 25# for myself. Them's good eating.
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Saw this in Dublin last weekend
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Saw this in Dublin last weekend
Did it suck?
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Did it suck?
Taste was good enough to be bought but when paired against other good beers it just couldn't compete.
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Most underrated Floyd album = The Final Cut.
Discuss.
you mean Roger Waters' first solo effort?
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you mean Roger Waters' first solo effort?
Thought The Wall was the first 'solo'....
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Saw this in Dublin last weekend
#mubb fan on Twitter a couple of years ago had the best line:
"It was extremely hoppy with a disappointing finish."
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Thanks! Southern side of the Island looks like might be spared 150 mph winds. We might get 100 mph. East and north (San Juan) will probably be hit real hard. This Warrior is ready, might have to live with wine, brother's blond ale, good cheese, olives, some good ham, tuna during 24-48 hours. Then no power so BBQ time, ribs, steak etc. Just hope is not the 4 weeks without power they are predicting. I'll keep you posted for as long as I can it is supposed to hit early Wednesday.
Definitely keep your head down Newsy. FYI, jsglow jr. was in the first wave of civilian first responders ordered to Key West. Arrived yesterday. He indicated that the keys just before KW got hit the worst.
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Definitely keep your head down Newsy. FYI, jsglow jr. was in the first wave of civilian first responders ordered to Key West. Arrived yesterday. He indicated that the keys just before KW got hit the worst.
Thanks looking worse now trajectory change a little more towards the south closer to my city. Wind speed increased to 175 mph sustained and that is very bad. Design calls for 125-140 mph winds. Will scoop away for as long as possible.
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Keeping you in my prayers Newsie.
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Keeping you in my prayers Newsie.
Thanks, as of right now we really need them
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Thanks, as of right now we really need them
Still got the calm winds, or picking up yet? 4AST when it hits?
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Thanks, as of right now we really need them
We're with our fellow Warrior.
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Still got the calm winds, or picking up yet? 4AST when it hits?
Yep that is the start of hurricane force winds
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Well just lost power. Hope cels keep up for a while. It is going to be a long night.
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Well just lost power. Hope cels keep up for a while. It is going to be a long night.
Good luck and keep the spirit.
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Good luck and keep the spirit.
Thanks, this is just a nasty animal. Been through 5 but this is something else.
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Give us a quick 'we're okay' when you can newsy.
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Give us a quick 'we're okay' when you can newsy.
Heard from him last at 1:30 AM with a quick text. He's turning cell off to save battery. Looks like the eye is about 30-45 mi north of his home.
He sent pics of his home pre-storm last night. He over-engineered it for a storm like this. Main concern is window integrity.
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Hoping the best for News. I'm sure all is well though but this storm looks angry.
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Heard from him last at 1:30 AM with a quick text. He's turning cell off to save battery. Looks like the eye is about 30-45 mi north of his home.
He sent pics of his home pre-storm last night. He over-engineered it for a storm like this. Main concern is window integrity.
Let us know if you hear from him.
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No power for Puerto Rico for 4-6 MONTHS? Holy crap! Prayers for newsie and everyone on the island.
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No power for Puerto Rico for 4-6 MONTHS? Holy crap! Prayers for newsie and everyone on the island.
Yeah, that just blew my mind. I guess the energy infrastructure was archaic and in poor repair to begin with, so they may be building a lot from scratch. Still...wow. :-[
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Let us know if you hear from him.
Nothing as of this evening. Sounds like cell towers are down.
His Uncle lives across the street and has a generator, so he catches a small break there
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Yeah, that just blew my mind. I guess the energy infrastructure was archaic and in poor repair to begin with, so they may be building a lot from scratch. Still...wow. :-[
They say every storm has a silver lining. Sucks that the lining can still be used to strangle and suffocate you, however.
Upside is they'll rebuild new infrastructure to current standards; downside is they have to rebuild infrastructure to current standards.
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Just heard from Newsie. He is ok. He's in San Juan where there is limited communication.
Said island hit by a bomb. His house looks ok structurally (roof, walls) but many windows did not hold up. Interior damage from water, wind etc.
He'll post later today.
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Just heard from Newsie. He is ok. He's in San Juan where there is limited communication.
Said island hit by a bomb. His house looks ok structurally (roof, walls) but many windows did not hold up. Interior damage from water, wind etc.
He'll post later today.
Great news about Newsie... crappy about the house and the island.
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Just glad to hear he is OK.
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Just glad to hear he is OK.
Same here. Wheh!
We were discussing one of my company's customers in Puerto Rico. I got an e-mail like late Friday asking for an update on their order. I replied the beginning of this week and not surprising obtained an out-of-office email simply stating "We are on shutdown due to a hurricane."
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Thank you all for thoughts and prayers. My wife and I survived a night of horror. Just glad to be alive. Being 6 hours in a walk in closet is no fun. What just happened is not normal. Nature is telling us something. Yes some of our infrastructure is dated but the winds were unreal 165 mph sustained and I'm pretty sure near 200 mph gusts, I could feel some concrete walls vibrating. But just glad God spared this Warrior and my family. I'm in San Juan 2 hours away. Only pkace there are comms and sketchy at best, and gas is scarce so might be a while For me to post again. So don't worry I'll be fine just hope cable & internet are up by the time season starts. Again, thank you all.
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Thoughts and prayers Newsie. Stay strong
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Thank you all for thoughts and prayers. My wife and I survived a night of horror. Just glad to be alive. Being 6 hours in a walk in closet is no fun. What just happened is not normal. Nature is telling us something. Yes some of our infrastructure is dated but the winds were unreal 165 mph sustained and I'm pretty sure near 200 mph gusts, I could feel some concrete walls vibrating. But just glad God spared this Warrior and my family. I'm in San Juan 2 hours away. Only pkace there are comms and sketchy at best, and gas is scarce so might be a while For me to post again. So don't worry I'll be fine just hope cable & internet are up by the time season starts. Again, thank you all.
Great to hear you are OK...we thinking of you all now with the recovery....will be tough days ahead I am sure.
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God Bless!
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Thanks leaving San Juan for home so it'll be a while for me to post...
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Now they're ordering the immediate evacuation of an area in NW Puerto Rico, due to concerns that a dam might burst and cause (even more) catastrophic flooding. Fortunately it sounds like it's far from where Newsie lives...but it highlights that the fight to recover is only just beginning.
Houston, Barbuda, the Virgin Islands, Florida, Mexico, Puerto Rico and more. So many people in need of help....
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Thank you all for thoughts and prayers. My wife and I survived a night of horror. Just glad to be alive. Being 6 hours in a walk in closet is no fun. What just happened is not normal. Nature is telling us something. Yes some of our infrastructure is dated but the winds were unreal 165 mph sustained and I'm pretty sure near 200 mph gusts, I could feel some concrete walls vibrating. But just glad God spared this Warrior and my family. I'm in San Juan 2 hours away. Only pkace there are comms and sketchy at best, and gas is scarce so might be a while For me to post again. So don't worry I'll be fine just hope cable & internet are up by the time season starts. Again, thank you all.
Sounds good newsy. Our best to your family.
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Thank you all for thoughts and prayers. My wife and I survived a night of horror. Just glad to be alive. Being 6 hours in a walk in closet is no fun. What just happened is not normal. Nature is telling us something. Yes some of our infrastructure is dated but the winds were unreal 165 mph sustained and I'm pretty sure near 200 mph gusts, I could feel some concrete walls vibrating. But just glad God spared this Warrior and my family. I'm in San Juan 2 hours away. Only pkace there are comms and sketchy at best, and gas is scarce so might be a while For me to post again. So don't worry I'll be fine just hope cable & internet are up by the time season starts. Again, thank you all.
The good news is your family survived. Hopefully, the rebuilding of the Island will add some much needed economic benefit.
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Thank you all for thoughts and prayers. My wife and I survived a night of horror. Just glad to be alive. Being 6 hours in a walk in closet is no fun. What just happened is not normal. Nature is telling us something. Yes some of our infrastructure is dated but the winds were unreal 165 mph sustained and I'm pretty sure near 200 mph gusts, I could feel some concrete walls vibrating. But just glad God spared this Warrior and my family. I'm in San Juan 2 hours away. Only pkace there are comms and sketchy at best, and gas is scarce so might be a while For me to post again. So don't worry I'll be fine just hope cable & internet are up by the time season starts. Again, thank you all.
Glad you are ok and safe. I've been through one as bad. Nature is always telling us something.
Maria actually a little stronger than 165, it was at 175mph sustained. They measure this for 1 minute sustained push. We've only been keeping records of this stuff for about 100 years, but in North America alone we've hit this marker 15 times since 1924. Eight of those (more than half), were prior to 1992. Six of them prior to 1980. Four prior to 1970. Nature is hard to predict. Glad you are safe.
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Glad you are ok and safe. I've been through one as bad. Nature is always telling us something.
Maria actually a little stronger than 165, it was at 175mph sustained. They measure this for 1 minute sustained push. We've only been keeping records of this stuff for about 100 years, but in North America alone we've hit this marker 15 times since 1924. Eight of those (more than half), were prior to 1992. Six of them prior to 1980. Four prior to 1970. Nature is hard to predict. Glad you are safe.
"Glad you are safe. But now I'm going to use this time to provide my opinion why the earth isn't warming."
Jerk.
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https://twitter.com/aggiembk
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"Glad you are safe. But now I'm going to use this time to provide my opinion why the earth isn't warming."
Jerk.
I gave no such opinion about warming anywhere. If you wish to know, in my opinion it is warming.
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It has been a very warm past few days, but I've had some great bike rides. One of the things I love about Rochester is that while we have plenty of big city amenities, I'm close enough to the countryside that I can ride on quiet rural roads just a few miles from my house.
Any other road cyclists out there?
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It has been a very warm past few days, but I've had some great bike rides. One of the things I love about Rochester is that while we have plenty of big city amenities, I'm close enough to the countryside that I can ride on quiet rural roads just a few miles from my house.
Any other road cyclists out there?
I enjoy a lot of different sports but could never get into cycling. Too much mechanical stuff for my liking.
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I enjoy a lot of different sports but could never get into cycling. Too much mechanical stuff for my liking.
That is the one big downside for me.
I actually came upon cycling by accident. I had been a lifelong runner - HS track team, later turned into marathons and stuff - but I overdid it and herniated a couple discs at around 40. My docs said that I had to give up running and find something lower impact, or risk surgery and pain even just walking. Swimming was out because of an old rotator cuff injury that I never had repaired, and nothing else seemed to fit.
I figured cycling might be even worse than running (the uncomfortable looking hunched over position), but I gave it a shot and it turned out that the forward bending relieved the pain. Fast forward about 15 years, and I can't imagine going without my rides. The mechanical stuff and associated costs are still a hassle, but they've just become part of the background noise that I've gotten used to...and I LOVE the feeling of being on an open rural road on my bike.
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That is the one big downside for me.
I actually came upon cycling by accident. I had been a lifelong runner - HS track team, later turned into marathons and stuff - but I overdid it and herniated a couple discs at around 40. My docs said that I had to give up running and find something lower impact, or risk surgery and pain even just walking. Swimming was out because of an old rotator cuff injury that I never had repaired, and nothing else seemed to fit.
I figured cycling might be even worse than running (the uncomfortable looking hunched over position), but I gave it a shot and it turned out that the forward bending relieved the pain. Fast forward about 15 years, and I can't imagine going without my rides. The mechanical stuff and associated costs are still a hassle, but they've just become part of the background noise that I've gotten used to...and I LOVE the feeling of being on an open rural road on my bike.
Also a tough sell to a cheapskate like me to have to spend 4 figures on a "decent" piece of athletic equipment when I can get a pair of running shoes for $150. I have participated in one mini-triathlon in which I used a 20-year-old Schwinn (which cost $125 at the time) and was receiving side-eye aplenty from my fellow competitors, usually as they were passing me.
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It has been a very warm past few days, but I've had some great bike rides. One of the things I love about Rochester is that while we have plenty of big city amenities, I'm close enough to the countryside that I can ride on quiet rural roads just a few miles from my house.
Any other road cyclists out there?
While you were writing your post, I was out on a 35 mile ride in the hills of western MA. I love living in this part of New England, where I have access to lots of cities, beaches, mountains, but am able to have rural existence that gives me peace and I'm surrounded by nature. I live on a dead-end, dirt road, with no cell phone coverage, but hike, bike and cross-country ski amazing places just by stepping out my door.
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While you were writing your post, I was out on a 35 mile ride in the hills of western MA. I love living in this part of New England, where I have access to lots of cities, beaches, mountains, but am able to have rural existence that gives me peace and I'm surrounded by nature. I live on a dead-end, dirt road, with no cell phone coverage, but hike, bike and cross-country ski amazing places just by stepping out my door.
Sounds awesome. Quiet rural roads are the best.
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Mecca .. Bradley Center .. Chaluparena.
Past, present, future.
(https://i.imgur.com/yFO0eXn.jpg)
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Mecca .. Bradley Center .. Chaluparena.
Past, present, future.
(https://i.imgur.com/yFO0eXn.jpg)
Middle children never get any respect, eh?
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I enjoy a lot of different sports but could never get into cycling. Too much mechanical stuff for my liking.
Unfortunately this heat is killing my Duck Hunting attempts so far. So I'm hoping for a cooling down period kinda soon. :/
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It has been a very warm past few days, but I've had some great bike rides. One of the things I love about Rochester is that while we have plenty of big city amenities, I'm close enough to the countryside that I can ride on quiet rural roads just a few miles from my house.
Any other road cyclists out there?
I was, but these days I don't have enough time to get out there. I have an awesome ride, but sadly it largely goes unused.
My problem is that to get an equivalent workout to running, I need to really go for about 3x longer of a workout. I run for about an hour, and that is hard to find time for...biking I'd need 2-3 hours minimum.
I started in mountain biking, and running. After too many injuries from mountain biking, my wife banned me, and with back problems running was getting a bit more challenging. Cycling was a good outlet for several years.
Strengthening my core though made my back infinitely better, to the point that I have had zero problems going on 4+ years and can now run long and often pain free. Need to get back in the saddle though...maybe I'll do one day a week.
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It has been a very warm past few days, but I've had some great bike rides. One of the things I love about Rochester is that while we have plenty of big city amenities, I'm close enough to the countryside that I can ride on quiet rural roads just a few miles from my house.
Any other road cyclists out there?
Actually, it was biking around Rochester that convinced me I needed a car. I covered just about every bit of that city on my bike during my early teens. I remember the day I hit 1,000 miles on my odometer... I was on my way to football practice and wasn't so much feeling accomplished as I was dreading the 3-mile bike home afterwards. Even as the token skinny nerd on the football team, practice was easy compared to that damn hill in front of Calvary Cemetery (which today would probably not seem nearly as daunting, but to a 14 year-old kid trying to balance a helmet and shoulder pads, it sucked).
I've probably ridden a collective 25 miles since the day after my 16th birthday.
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Actually, it was biking around Rochester that convinced me I needed a car. I covered just about every bit of that city on my bike during my early teens. I remember the day I hit 1,000 miles on my odometer... I was on my way to football practice and wasn't so much feeling accomplished as I was dreading the 3-mile bike home afterwards. Even as the token skinny nerd on the football team, practice was easy compared to that damn hill in front of Calvary Cemetery (which today would probably not seem nearly as daunting, but to a 14 year-old kid trying to balance a helmet and shoulder pads, it sucked).
I've probably ridden a collective 25 miles since the day after my 16th birthday.
LOL...yep!
Someone I work with is a biking fanatic. Every other weekend she is going on some 80 mile trek around the countryside and is absolutely convinced that I would love it. But all I think of is the misery of having to bike everywhere as a middle and early high schooler.
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Actually, it was biking around Rochester that convinced me I needed a car. I covered just about every bit of that city on my bike during my early teens. I remember the day I hit 1,000 miles on my odometer... I was on my way to football practice and wasn't so much feeling accomplished as I was dreading the 3-mile bike home afterwards. Even as the token skinny nerd on the football team, practice was easy compared to that damn hill in front of Calvary Cemetery (which today would probably not seem nearly as daunting, but to a 14 year-old kid trying to balance a helmet and shoulder pads, it sucked).
I've probably ridden a collective 25 miles since the day after my 16th birthday.
Didn't know you were from RST, Benny!
I can see what you're saying. I never used my bike as a form of basic transportation - I always lived near enough to walk to the places I needed to go as a kid, so my childhood riding was just fun around the neighborhood. I can imagine viewing it differently if it had been my transportation....
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Didn't know you were from RST, Benny!
I can see what you're saying. I never used my bike as a form of basic transportation - I always lived near enough to walk to the places I needed to go as a kid, so my childhood riding was just fun around the neighborhood. I can imagine viewing it differently if it had been my transportation....
Not from RST, but lived there during my pre and early teens. I'm sure the city is much, much different today than what I experienced.
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Not from RST, but lived there during my pre and early teens. I'm sure the city is much, much different today than what I experienced.
Yep, lots of changes. We've been here since '98, and there have already been huge updates to the Mayo campus and the downtown restaurant scene. And we're starting to see even more state, private and Mayo investment to turn it into a more modern, upscale destination. Hilton and Hyatt coming to town, high-rise condos by Saint Marys and along the river, major renovation of the Art Center, the beginnings of a four-year university (UM-Rochester).
Some of the locals lament it turning into a "big city," but I think the progress is great.
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I don't care if I'm banned.
No, wait...I don't care if everybody else here is banned.
Wait, I mean I used to use Ban until I realized it had aluminum.
I think we ought to ban aluminum.
All in favor?
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I don't care if I'm banned.
No, wait...I don't care if everybody else here is banned.
Wait, I mean I used to use Ban until I realized it had aluminum.
I think we ought to ban aluminum.
All in favor?
Aye.
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Hugh Hefner dead. Ban clothing.
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Wear a silk robe in honor.
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Wear a silk robe in honor.
I was thinking of inviting some Playmates over for a pool party. Just gotta get a pool...and a grotto...and a mansion.
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I was thinking of inviting some Playmates over for a pool party. Just gotta get a pool...and a grotto...and a mansion.
And a great chlorine system
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maybe now we'll hear what really happened when Bill Cosby visited the mansion
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Hugh Hefner helped bring pornography to the mainstream.
Pornography helped spur the expansion of the internet.
Without the internet, there is no Scoop.
So in a way, you could say Hugh Hefner invented Scoop.*
*This is in addition to Scoop's other co-founder, Al Gore.
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Then the Internet killed Playboy. So Hugh killed himself.
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And a great chlorine system
Chlorine...and activated charcoal filters...and a reverse-osmosis purification system....
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NM actually came out sept 24 1991. A few days late. But I thought I would mention it.
Definitely a game changer with music in America. Nirvana's NM album was great.
(Gees Louise I'm bored... I have nothing to contribute... ?-( )
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NM actually came out sept 24 1991. A few days late. But I thought I would mention it.
Definitely a game changer with music in America. Nirvana's NM album was great.
(Gees Louise I'm bored... I have nothing to contribute... ?-( )
"Blood Sugar Sex Magik" came out the same day and was better.
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Looking for suggestions on how to deal with someone who puts ketchup on eggs.
Thoughts?
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"Blood Sugar Sex Magik" came out the same day and was better.
Daaaaang
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Looking for suggestions on how to deal with someone who puts ketchup on eggs.
Thoughts?
Pour siracha in the ketchup bottle?
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It's Parents Weekend. Anyone Scoopers heading to campus?
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Pour siracha in the ketchup bottle?
I was thinking salt...but sriracha would definitely send a message. Or maybe Ghost Chile sauce....
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Looking for suggestions on how to deal with someone who puts ketchup on eggs.
Thoughts?
Vacation to Cuba with diplomatic accommodations (but make sure you forget to pack the earplugs).
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Just hit a deer on a busy street at noon. Seriously ticked.
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Just hit a deer on a busy street at noon. Seriously ticked.
Joke #1:
Please tell me it wasn't Jabari?!?
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Just hit a deer on a busy street at noon. Seriously ticked.
Joke #2:
Even a lightly-ticked deer can carry Lyme's, so use caution there.
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Just hit a deer on a busy street at noon. Seriously ticked.
Serious response:
That sucks. Hope it was with the "Company Car".
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Just hit a deer on a busy street at noon. Seriously ticked.
How’s da deer doin’? Seriously doe, ya just donated 300 meals at da local soup kitchen, hey?
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That doe not be chillin, yo.
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She stuck her hind leg through my headlight, knocked the plastic bumper loose, and kept running.
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She stuck her hind leg through my headlight, knocked the plastic bumper loose, and kept running.
B*tch.
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She stuck her hind leg through my headlight, knocked the plastic bumper loose, and kept running.
It's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for her.
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"Blood Sugar Sex Magik" came out the same day and was better.
'Member when RHCP was good?
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Vacation to Cuba with diplomatic accommodations (but make sure you forget to pack the earplugs).
Good thought. Better one-way fares than Pyongyang....
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B*tch.
Did JayBee steal your log in?
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"Blood Sugar Sex Magik" came out the same day and was better.
Yes. Yes it is better. NM, is way more influential, but BSSM is a masterpiece for both the Peppers and Rick Rubin. Not slighting Butch Vig or Nirvana at all.
This week was also the 25th anniversary of Core. This is as much to do with who i associate with as anything else but i can appreciate the influence Never Mind had, i remember exactly where i was the first time i listened to BSSM and Core.
Also, if you've never done a tour through Rubin's catalog you should. I've not toured all of it (i.e. his work with Beiber) but from DefJam through Johnny Cash it's amazing. Neil Diamonds '12 Songs' is what woke me up to him being the genius vs the artist.
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'Member when RHCP was good?
Fight like a Brave
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Yes. Yes it is better. NM, is way more influential, but BSSM is a masterpiece for both the Peppers and Rick Rubin. Not slighting Butch Vig or Nirvana at all.
This week was also the 25th anniversary of Core. This is as much to do with who i associate with as anything else but i can appreciate the influence Never Mind had, i remember exactly where i was the first time i listened to BSSM and Core.
Also, if you've never done a tour through Rubin's catalog you should. I've not toured all of it (i.e. his work with Beiber) but from DefJam through Johnny Cash it's amazing. Neil Diamonds '12 Songs' is what woke me up to him being the genius vs the artist.
This.
Since Mt. Rushmore season is over, let's power rank Rick Rubin produced albums.
In my opinion in the mix are: Blood Sugar, License To Ill, Californication by RHCP, Jay Z the Black Album, Adele 21, Yeezus
1. License to Ill
2. BSSM
3. The Black Album
4. 21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin_production_discography
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Did JayBee steal your log in?
LOL ;D
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This.
Since Mt. Rushmore season is over, let's power rank Rick Rubin produced albums.
In my opinion in the mix are: Blood Sugar, License To Ill, Californication by RHCP, Jay Z the Black Album, Adele 21, Yeezus
1. License to Ill
2. BSSM
3. The Black Album
4. 21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin_production_discography
License to Ill
Then the rest.
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This.
Since Mt. Rushmore season is over, let's power rank Rick Rubin produced albums.
In my opinion in the mix are: Blood Sugar, License To Ill, Californication by RHCP, Jay Z the Black Album, Adele 21, Yeezus
1. License to Ill
2. BSSM
3. The Black Album
4. 21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin_production_discography
You have to put Raising Hell in there. Probably did more to introduce rap to the masses than any other album.
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You have to put Raising Hell in there. Probably did more to introduce rap to the masses than any other album.
Good call, missed it during my first pass. And reviewing the list again, I would find room for Public Enemy "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back"
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Good call, missed it during my first pass. And reviewing the list again, I would find room for Public Enemy "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back"
Yep. Good one.
The problem with some of his later producing credits is that I'm not sure how much "producing" he is really doing. Vanessa Carlton's album was good, but the wiki article about the album doesn't even list Rubin as a producer.
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She stuck her hind leg through my headlight, knocked the plastic bumper loose, and kept running.
and the officer bought that?
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and the officer bought that?
I just hope the deer had good insurance.
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No officer involved. Kept driving. Hitting deer in Michigan is almost like hitting a pothole. The car is still driveable, the fur is still in the hood.
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No officer involved. Kept driving. Hitting deer in Michigan is almost like hitting a pothole. The car is still driveable, the fur is still in the hood.
And right now the deer is saying "Kicking cars around here is like running into branches. I can still run."
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And right now the deer is saying "Kicking cars around here is like running into branches. I can still run."
It's amazing how tame they have become in some areas. Once I was driving on a relatively major road (for the U.P., at least), and I had to stop because a doe was standing right in the middle of it, nursing a fawn. She looks up at me as if she was saying, "What the hell are you looking at?", and didn't budge.
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It's amazing how tame they have become in some areas. Once I was driving on a relatively major road (for the U.P., at least), and I had to stop because a doe was standing right in the middle of it, nursing a fawn. She looks up at me as if she was saying, "What the hell are you looking at?", and didn't budge.
Yep. The other evening, I was on a walk at dusk. I was walking past some trees - about 10 feet away - and noticed a deer standing right there. I kept walking and keeping an eye on the deer, and it just watched me walk by.
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No officer involved. Kept driving. Hitting deer in Michigan is almost like hitting a pothole. The car is still driveable, the fur is still in the hood.
Back in the day, a few of us went paint balling on a fall Saturday and on the way back going down a two-lane county highway when our caravan of 4-5 cars scared up a flock of pheasant that were along the side of the road. Once we got back onto 41, our car passed the guy who was in front when the birds flew up, and there hanging from the front of his car, with it's neck wedged into the gap between the hood and headlight, was one of the birds. We almost ran off the road laughing... not so much at the bird, but from trying to communicate to the other driver (who couldn't see the bird he hit) that there was a bird hanging from the front of his car. Rough times before cell phones.
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Rough times before cell phones.
Reminds me of the summer between my junior and senior years in HS. A friend and I took a summer-long trip - splitting time between my aunt's house in FL and his uncle's place in TX. We called a few times, but often weeks would pass where we never called at all. Between the long distance charges, the lack of cell phones and our teenage need to show we were "grown up" (ha!), we rarely bothered. There were days when my parents would never even have had a clue what state we were in. And I had just turned 17.
Talk about back in the day....
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We have deer around here, but the wild animals that get me are the turkeys. A few years back I was trying to pass a back road where there was a turkey in the road. It would not move to let me get by. I would veer a little left and it would move to block me and move to the right and it would do the same, honking or barking or whatever it is they do at me. I finally got around it and came across a policeman standing over some road work maybe 50 yards further down the road and he was having a good laugh and waved me over I pulled over to talk to him and he said he'd been watching the turkey do that to car after car for the past hour or so. Those are some ornery birds. No wonder Ben Franklin wanted to make them our national symbol instead of the bald eagle. There were plenty of them around a few years ago, but I haven't seen any in more than a year, I think.
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We have deer around here, but the wild animals that get me are the turkeys. A few years back I was trying to pass a back road where there was a turkey in the road. It would not move to let me get by. I would veer a little left and it would move to block me and move to the right and it would do the same, honking or barking or whatever it is they do at me. I finally got around it and came across a policeman standing over some road work maybe 50 yards further down the road and he was having a good laugh and waved me over I pulled over to talk to him and he said he'd been watching the turkey do that to car after car for the past hour or so. Those are some ornery birds. No wonder Ben Franklin wanted to make them our national symbol instead of the bald eagle. There were plenty of them around a few years ago, but I haven't seen any in more than a year, I think.
Lots of turkeys around here, but I've never had one block my way in the road. Most of my encounters have been when riding my bike, and they always scatter. Your turkey encounter reminds me of the bison in Rocky Mountain National Park. They take their sweet time crossing the road.
On the bike, my biggest fear is squirrels. They're ridiculously unpredictable. They seem to be running safely out of the way...only to dart straight toward my wheels when I'm right on them. Crazy. I just hold a straight line to increase my chances of staying upright if one ever darts under a wheel....
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Lots of turkeys around here, but I've never had one block my way in the road. Most of my encounters have been when riding my bike, and they always scatter. Your turkey encounter reminds me of the bison in Rocky Mountain National Park. They take their sweet time crossing the road.
On the bike, my biggest fear is squirrels. They're ridiculously unpredictable. They seem to be running safely out of the way...only to dart straight toward my wheels when I'm right on them. Crazy. I just hold a straight line to increase my chances of staying upright if one ever darts under a wheel....
;D There's a classic joke (a bit long though) your post reminds me of:
I never dreamed slowly cruising on motorcycle through a residential neighborhood could be so incredibly dangerous! Little did I suspect....
I was on Brice Street - a very nice neighborhood with perfect lawns and slow traffic. As I passed an on coming car a brown furry missile shot out from under it and tumbled to a stop immediately in front of me.
It was a squirrel and it must have been trying to run across the road when it encountered the car. I really was not going very fast but there was no time to brake or avoid it -- it was that close. I hate to run over animals and I really hate it on a motorcycle but a squirrel should pose no danger to me.
I barely had time to brace for the impact. Animal lovers never fear. Squirrels I discovered can take care of themselves.
Inches before impact the squirrel flipped to his feet. He was standing on his hind legs and facing my oncoming Victory Cross Country Tour with steadfast resolve in his beady little eyes.
His mouth opened and at the last possible second he screamed and leaped!
I was pretty sure the scream was Squirrel for "Banzai!" or maybe "Die you gravy sucking heathen scum!" The leap was nothing short of spectacular...
He shot straight up, flew over my windshield and impacted me squarely in the chest. Instantly he set upon me. If I did not know better I would have sworn he brought 20 of his little buddies along for the attack.
Snarling, hissing, and tearing at my clothes, he was a frenzy of activity. As I was dressed only in a light T-shirt, summer riding gloves and jeans, this was a bit of a cause for concern. This furry little tornado was doing some damage!
Picture a large man on a huge Sunset Red touring bike, dressed in jeans, a T-shirt and leather gloves, puttering at maybe 25 MPH down a quiet residential street and in the fight of his life with a squirrel.
And losing...
I grabbed for him with my left hand. After a few misses I finally managed to snag his tail. With all my strength I flung the evil rodent off to the left of the bike, almost running into the right curb as I recoiled from the throw. That should have done it. The matter should have ended right there.
It really should have. The squirrel could have sailed into one of the pristine kept yards and gone on about his business and I could have headed home. No one would have been the wiser. But this was no ordinary squirrel. This was not even an ordinary angry squirrel. This was an EVIL MUTANT ATTACK SQUIRREL OF DEATH! Twisted Evil.
Some how he caught my gloved finger with one of his little paws and with the force of my throw, swung around and with a resounding thump and an amazing impact, landed squarely on my BACK and resumed his rather antisocial and extremely distracting activities. He also managed to take my left glove with him! The situation was not improved, not improved at all.
His attacks were continuing and now I could not reach him. I was startled to say the least. The combination of the force of the throw, only having one hand (the throttle hand) on the handle bars, and my jerking back unfortunately put a healthy twist through my right hand and into the throttle. A healthy twist on the throttle of a Victory Cross Country Tour can only have one result.
Torque.
That is what the Victory Cross Country Tour is made for, and she is very, very good at it.
The engine roared and the front wheel left the pavement.
The squirrel screamed in anger.
The Victory Cross Country Tour screamed in ecstasy.
I screamed in ... well ... I just plain screamed.
Now picture a man on the huge Sunset Red touring bike, dressed in jeans, a slightly squirrel torn T-shirt, wearing only one leather glove and roaring at maybe 50 MPH and rapidly accelerating down a quiet residential street on one wheel with a demonic squirrel of death on his back.
The man and the squirrel are both screaming bloody murder.
With the sudden acceleration, I was forced to put my other hand back on the handlebars and try to get control of the bike.
This was leaving the mutant squirrel to his own devices, but I really did not want to crash into somebodies tree, house or parked car. Also, I had not yet figured out how to release the throttle ... my brain was just simply overloaded. I did manage to mash the back brake, but it had little effect against the massive power the the big touring bike.
About this time the squirrel decided I was not paying sufficient attention to this very serious battle (maybe he was an evil mutant NAZI attack squirrel of death), and he came around my neck and INSIDE my full-face helmet with me.
As the face shield closed part way, he began hissing in my face. I am quite sure my screaming changed intensity. It had little effect on the squirrel however. The RPM's on the Freedom 106 maxed out (since I was not bothering with shifting at the moment), so her front end started to drop.
Now picture a large man on a huge Sunset Red touring bike, dressed in jeans, a very raggedly torn T-shirt, wearing only one leather glove, roaring at probably 80 MPH, still on one wheel, with a large puffy squirrel's tail sticking out of the mostly closed full-face helmet. By now the screams are probably getting a little horse.
Finally I got the upper hand ... I managed to grab his tail again, pulled him out of my helmet and slung him to the left as hard as I could. This time it worked ... sort of.
Spectacularly sort-of, so to speak.
Picture a new scene. You are a cop. You and your partner have pulled off on a quiet residential street and parked with your windows down to do some paperwork. Suddenly a large man on a huge Sunset Red touring bike, dressed in jeans, a torn T-shirt flapping in the breeze, and wearing only one leather glove, moving at probably 80 MPH on one wheel and screaming bloody murder roars by and with all his strength throws a live mutant squirrel into your police car.
I heard screams.
This time they weren't mine...
I managed to get the big motorcycle under control and dropped the front wheel to the ground. I then used maximum braking and skidded to a stop in a cloud of tire smoke at the stop sign of a busy cross street. I would have returned to fess up (and to get my glove back), I really would have. Really ... Except for two things.
First, the cops did not seem interested or the slightest bit concerned about me at the moment. When I looked back, the doors on both sides of the patrol car were flung open. The cop from the passenger side was on his back doing a crab walk into some body's front yard quickly moving away from the car. The cop who had been in the driver's seat was standing in the street aiming a riot gun at his own police car.
So, the cops were not interested in me. They often insist to "let the professionals handle it" anyway.
That was one thing. The other?
Well, I could clearly see shredded and flying pieces of foam and upholstery from the back seat. But I could also swear I saw the squirrel in the back window, shaking his little fist at me. That is one dangerous squirrel. And now has a patrol car. A somewhat shredded patrol car ... but it was all his.
I took a deep breath, turned on my turn signal, made a gentle right turn off of Brice Street and sedately left the neighborhood. I decided it was best to just buy myself a new pair of gloves. And a whole lot of Band-Aids.
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Ok...so I'm going to think twice next time I come up on a squirrel. ;D
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https://www.youtube.com/v/MziwbQv9zQ0
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Stir-fry tonight.
White rice, brown rice or quinoa?
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Stir-fry tonight.
White rice, brown rice or quinoa?
I'm a brown rice guy but i can't make fried rice with it without huge clumps of starchy rice. if you figure out how to avoid that please share.
So.....white rice for stir fry for me
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Stir-fry tonight.
White rice, brown rice or quinoa?
I haven't eaten quinoa ever since I found out that Bolivian people were starving because American health nuts have driven up the demand for their native food staple so much that they couldn't afford to buy it anymore.
Plus it tastes like ass.
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So you’re an authority on ass tastin’, hey?
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Stir-fry tonight.
White rice, brown rice or quinoa?
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Q, no question, hey?
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Not to burst your bubble doc, but quinoa is a grain.
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Not to burst your bubble doc, but quinoa is a grain.
Didn’t say I wood eat it. Butt, its a much bedder choice dan rice, four those who do, hey?
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I haven't eaten quinoa ever since I found out that Bolivian people were starving because American health nuts have driven up the demand for their native food staple so much that they couldn't afford to buy it anymore.
Plus it tastes like ass.
I could understand many descriptions about the taste of quinoa, but ass isn't one of them.
Have you boycotted all Chinese-made goods yet, since we know American demand makes them work in appalling conditions?
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I could understand many descriptions about the taste of quinoa, but ass isn't one of them.
Have you boycotted all Chinese-made goods yet, since we know American demand makes them work in appalling conditions?
Buying Chinese goods isn't making rice so expensive that Chinese people are starving to death.
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Buying Chinese goods isn't making rice so expensive that Chinese people are starving to death.
You might want to update your research on Americans' quinoa habit starving Bolivians. Per NPR:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/03/31/472453674/your-quinoa-habit-really-did-help-perus-poor-but-theres-trouble-ahead
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You might want to update your research on Americans' quinoa habit starving Bolivians. Per NPR:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/03/31/472453674/your-quinoa-habit-really-did-help-perus-poor-but-theres-trouble-ahead
It still tastes like ass.
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It still tastes like ass.
So I'll just mark you down as preferring rice then....
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It still tastes like ass.
Really depends how you cook it. I make a quinoa based risotto that is amazing...prefer it over the rice varieties I make.
But agree, that it is often prepared in terribly unappetizing ways.
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I love the taste of quinoa. Its a pain to cook though.
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Stir-fry tonight.
White rice, brown rice or quinoa?
So what did you choose?
[Personally, it depends on the veggies and sauce, but basmati is my default.]
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So what did you choose?
[Personally, it depends on the veggies and sauce, but basmati is my default.]
Brown rice.
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They never disappoint.
I finally got a chance to listen to this (not referenced: The National - Sleep Well Beast) end-to-end today. The first few times i only got 3-4 songs into it and struggled with it but once through it all, holy crap is it good. Turtleneck is my favorite right now, the punk edge suits them well.
Different topic from somewhere else in this thread.....Gorillaz concert was super cool. Not 'blow me away' awesome but if you have a chance to check them out you certainly should.
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I love the taste of quinoa. Its a pain to cook though.
It still tastes like ass.
There are two sides to every market.
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I had my first Fuji today. Delish
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I had my first Fuji today. Delish
Troublemaker
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The other day I had my first Honeycrisp of the season. Outstanding, of course. But when they're out of season and the price doubles, it's back to the pink ladies for me.
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Woo heer just had der first pink lady, hey?
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I ate some funky chilli last night.
Today is going to be a long day at the local Wash Closet.
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Four da sake of yo luved wons, cee yo nearest bidet early and often, hey?
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Getting back on topic, if you live in a place that does not sell Entenmann's Little Bites and you are forced to eat Hostess Mini Muffins, we are keeping you and your family in our thoughts and prayers.
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I ate some funky chilli last night.
Today is going to be a long day at the local Wash Closet.
On the bright side, maybe you could get a colonoscopy without going through the prep.
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On the bright side, maybe you could get a colonoscopy without going through the prep.
Yeah, that prep sucks doesn't it?
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Yeah, that prep sucks doesn't it?
Worst part of the whole thing, IMHO.
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Kinda makes quinoa taste pretty good, ai na?
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Kinda makes quinoa taste pretty good, ai na?
Maybe even Red Delicious apples...maybe.
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Yeah, that prep sucks doesn't it?
Back in San Juan for some work. Catching up with scoop a priority. How is Jack doing?
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Back in San Juan for some work. Catching up with scoop a priority. How is Jack doing?
Good. I sense he's working 18 hour days. He's responsible for all the billeting onboard Empire State where lots of the FEMA guys are staying.
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Timeless wisdom
https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys/status/894987685810622465 (https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys/status/894987685810622465)
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Timeless wisdom
https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys/status/894987685810622465 (https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys/status/894987685810622465)
“America’s Roast Beef, Yes Sir”
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I thought Wendy's was the answer to "where's the beef?" ?-(
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Is Arbys the official sandwhich shop of MU Basketball yet or what!?
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Is Arbys the official sandwhich shop of MU Basketball yet or what!?
I'll take Jimmy John's.