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And from what I could tell the vast majority of bar patrons fell into that 20-29 age group.Occum wins again!
What are you doing out in the bars right now??? Do as I say not as I do!!
This is getting a lot of attention from Docs tonight. Not positive but a rare media quote from the CDChttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/29/cdc-says-us-has-way-too-much-virus-to-control-pandemic-as-cases-surge-across-country.html
Hey guys, remember when we couldn't go back to shutdown? Seems like the hard hit states are doing that.The rest of us won't be far behind.
If this holds up in review it should put to bed the role and prevalence of asymptomatic carriers (45% Of survey and shedded virus). Also has peak shedding as the two days prior to symptom onset. Interesting study. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2488-1_reference.pdf
My lord... last time I looked (a day ago?) at the COVID-19 Dashboard we had 126,000 deaths. Now we are nearly at 130,000?Ugh.
Interesting study, but according to their numbers and methods, they didn't do anything to correct for possible false positives in their testing. With such a low prevalence 2.6% (first round) and 1.2% (second round), false positives will make up a considerable portion of the results. So likely most of the "asymptomatic" carriers were likely simply not even infected. In fact, depending on the lab technique all of the "asymptomatic" cases could be ascribed to false positives, and not actual infections. That is part of the difficulty in assessing some of this data. There have been specific labs that have had up to 8% false positive rates, because of bad technique.
Even with that, wouldn't the low end of the asymptomatic high 30's to low 40's.
Maybe I was misreading something in the paper, but I thought they were saying, of the 2.6%/1.2% that tested positive, 40ish% were asymptomatic. My assertion is that if they have a 1-2% false positive rate in testing, then they would expect 1-2% of tests to come back as a false positive, that is almost the same as their actual prevalence, which suggests that what they are calling "asymptomatic" is in all actuality, just a false positive.
Hey guys, remember when we couldn't go back to shutdown? Seems like the hard hit states are doing that.The rest of us won't be far behind.Odd that a lot of people who don't want to wear masks are the same ones that want everything to be opened up, schools started in the fall, and the economy back to normal.I'd love to see a poll on the overlap of those people.At this point, we are watching a slow death.
This is a hysterical and dramatic statement. How many of the states that are experienced “severe” outbreaks truly shut down and flattened the curve on the first wave? Besides California?How many states that opened up in phases or “followed the science” are being run over by insane hospitalization rates and COVID running amuck?For someone who is insistent on following the science and data, claiming that Wisconsin, for example, is not far behind places like Texas and Arizona or Florida is asinine.The leadership at the top sucks. Yes. There are areas of the country where COVID is a severe problem over the last 2 weeks. Yes. There are plenty of stupid people who don’t like wearing masks, sure. But to ignore the immense progress and control of the virus in huge segments of the country and claim we’re all going to hell in a hand basket cause a few states are having issues, most of which never went through the lengths the rest of the country did, is just Chicken Little disaster prognosticating
If masks became universal and not partisan, things would improve. Also, accept that bars, theaters, stadiums are bad ideas.
Agreed, also we should agree that on the whole we are much better off now than we were 3 months ago
The answer to your underlined question is "none," but it is a disappointingly small sample size because only three states (NY, CT and IL) actually "followed the science" required by the CDC's three-phase reopening plan before reopening. https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/499915-only-three-states-have-met-the-white-housesAs to possible rollbacks...will other states follow suit? Time will tell, but as of today at least 17 states have already rolled back or paused reopening plans, and here in MN the governor is threatening to close bars if they don't do a better job enforcing current guidelines for social distancing. Further, a full 35 states have seen an increase in their 7-day average of documented new cases (with 13 states remaining steady, and only 2 states plus DC decreasing). Most of the increases are not nearly as dramatic as those in TX, FL, AZ and CA, but the trend is not moving in a good direction.Seventeen states pausing: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/30/covid-cases-states-pausing-reopening-plans-list/3284513001/MN Governor might close bars: https://www.twincities.com/2020/06/29/with-hundreds-tied-to-coronavirus-outbreaks-from-bars-walz-threatens-harsher-actions/Thirty-five states seeing increases: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=HomepageSo what does this mean regarding other states moving back? I would be really surprised if all do it, but if rates continue to climb as we move back from summer into fall, it doesn't seem that far-fetched to imagine that many will. Time will tell.
I guess I look at places like Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, Colorado... there are upticks in new cases, but their per capita levels are still low, most if not all have measures in place. It’s not saying “we’ve beat COVID!” but it’s not “this will be Arizona 2.0 in a couple weeks, just you watch”.
Are we? The horrific numbers of 3 months ago were driven by 3 states. You’re a lot more optimistic than I am. I hope you are right and I am wrong.
The problem is that the states you mention had strong stay at home orders. That is what kept cases down, but that safety net is no longer in place. A large swath of our population is no longer taking any precautions. That does not portend well for a month from now. A