Oso planning to go pro
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny. Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.
Two questions:1) Has Hollywood ever successfully remade a movie whose original version was a widely-panned mega-flop? i.e. is there any chance that Howard the Duck might get a reboot in Phase 4?2) Have the Guardians usurped the role as center of the MCU?Fun facts: -Howard the Duck was the first Marvel feature film (and it's the first topic of discussion in this thread... apropos).-It was Howard the Duck's failure that led to the rise of Pixar as we know it today (George Lucas needed money after Howard bombed, so he sold the computer-animation division of Lucasfilm (Pixar) to Steve Jobs in 1986).-Besides Guardians, the latest movie to have alluded to Howard the Duck was a Pixar film (In Planes: Fire & Rescue, a secret video tape was hidden in a VHS-sized box for "Howard the Truck," presumably because no one would ever look for it there.)You have to admit, a Howard remake would be an interesting spin on historical events now that Pixar, Marvel and George Lucas' soul are all owned by the same company.
It certainly seems to be that they are gunning for that. I think the wide range of likable characters in the movie (as seen by the massive commercial push of Baby Groot) has put them straight in the driver's seat. I enjoyed the second movie but it really felt like it was appealing to every possible demographic in a cartoonish way that they could even outside of the normal marvel fan range. Suicide squad's ill fated attempt to copy the original film suggests they know they have the winning formula.Outstanding sound tracks too!
Two questions:1) Has Hollywood ever successfully remade a movie whose original version was a widely-panned mega-flop?
First of all, I forgot that Howard the Duck was yet another GL abomination. God bless Star Wars, but other than A New Hope, Lucas has been a complete disaster when left to his own devices (Empire was Kirschner, original Indiana Jones was Spielberg, etc)As far as mega-flop, does rebooting Land of the Lost count?Guardians as MCU center, I dunno. I actually think Deadpool might take that title at somepoint, simply because once Infinity Wars happens I don't know how you can spin Guardians and Avengers back out. They are going to have to kill characters(ie actors) in Infinity Wars so they can bring the characters back with new actors (Winter Soldier or Falcon as Captain America, War Machine as Iron Man, etc) so Avengers as the center is out. I don't know how Guardians holds the center as anything other then a fun, quirky crew movie. Deadpool unifies all the Marvel properties (X-Men, Spider-man, Avengers, etc) at least within the current movies and Disney desperately wants to bring X-Men and Spider-man back into the fold.Lastly, I would get zero pleasure from having Howard the Duck on any digital screen ever again.
Down 1 w 5 seconds left. Doable.
Like all of the properties originating from the X-Men franchise, Deadpool is owned by Fox, and therefore technically not part of the MCU. Yet, any way.Spiderman's rights are controlled by Sony, but they reached a deal with Marvel Studios to bring him back into the fold with the Avengers. Ego is actually an X-Men property, but he's now MCU because Marvel cut a deal with Fox who got Negasonic Teenage Warhead in return. BTW - James Gunn didn't realize Marvel didn't have control of Ego until after the script to Vol. 2 was finished... luckily, it was about that time that Fox approached Marvel asking about NTW (Fox's rights to the X-Men properties was only for existing characters; because the NTW character in Deadpool is materially different from the NTW character in the comics, Fox needed Marvel's permission).Confused yet?So since Deadpool is not MCU, Howard may very well be the MCU character who is most directly connected (in the comics) to all of the other current MCU characters.If you completely ignore 1986 for a moment, how could Howard not have potential today with Gunn or Russo/Markus leading the charge? Gunn himself is a big fan of Howard in the comics (hence his appearances in GotG) but hated the movie... here's a chance to right a wrong. Hell, team Howard up with Kraglin and spin them off into a new franchise.
Two questions:1) Has Hollywood ever successfully remade a movie whose original version was a widely-panned mega-flop? i.e. is there any chance that Howard the Duck might get a reboot in Phase 4?
Punisher 1989 (28% on Rotten Tomatoes)Rebooted in 2004 (29% on RT) Inspired a 2008 sequal/reboot Punisher: War Zone (27% RT)Which has now been rebooted into the MCU on the Netflix series Dare Devil, and is getting its own spin off.so they may not have "successfully" made a sequel, but they sure have tried.Speaking of Punisher, Thomas Jade's will always be my favorite, and the spiritual successor he made was superb.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
I actually really loved the Netflix interpretation of Punisher
Completely forgot that Deadpool is Fox, at some point Marvel has got to find a way to bring all these properties back in house.
Something that I would think Kevin Feige struggles with every day.
Completely forgot that Deadpool is Fox, at some point Marvel has got to find a way to bring all these properties back in house.Side note, while I've always been a Marvel guy over DC, Batman was always my favorite superhero....until the DC cinematic universe has gone and cocked this all up. I am so far out on DC I haven't seen a single DC property since DKR. Man is there a grad school case study somewhere in there.
I don't think there will be a Howard movie, nor should there be. He's ideal for the odd cameo, but can't carry a franchise.As far as GotG being the center of the MCU...well they certainly are the heart of it. I could see them spinning a Cosmic storyline after Infinity War, bring in Nova, Adam Warlock, Beta Ray Bill, but the problem is you really NEED the Fantastic Four. Say what you will about Marvel's first family, but they have the best supporting cast (Silver Surfer) and villains (Skrulls, Galactus, Annihilus).If they can retain a link to the Spider-Man properties (which seems questionable) for characters like Venom and Norman Osborne and add the FF, it opens the MCU up more than the X-Men ever would.
The new Superman was mediocre, but BvS with Batfleck was downright terrible. Bad acting, terrible script, and not at all accurate to the comics. More important than the lack of accuracy to the comics, though, was the lack of accuracy to the characters. Superman felt like a jerk, Batman wasn't a detective, he was just an action star with questionable morals.Suicide Squad wasn't much better. The first half hour was basically a soundtrack advertisement (trying to be GOTG), the characters were flat (except for Rick Flagg), and it all felt predictably dull.I'm hoping Wonder Woman is better, but I'm not optimistic. I think Marvel with Brie Larson has a much better chance than this DC venture. I know everyone said WW was the highlight of BvS, but honestly I think that's only because everything else was so bad in comparison.
What's so interesting to me is that DC's tv universe is kicking the crap out of marvels yet can't seem to make a decent movie to save their lives