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Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 09, 2024, 06:59:50 AM
If you think there's an impression that we're weak now, I wonder what will happen if we re-elect a former president who has apparently been regularly talking with Putin since the invasion began?

oh...so the lame street media "reports" this of curse u belief it but "heels up" is...letting illlegles vote and steel houses and ur quite 🤔

Get out of ur ocho chaimburr of msnbc and the view
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

jesmu84

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 09, 2024, 06:59:50 AM
If you think there's an impression that we're weak now, I wonder what will happen if we re-elect a former president who has apparently been regularly talking with Putin since the invasion began?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-covid-testing-devices-phone-calls-kremlin-rcna174632

tower912

#177
That was a thoughtful gift. I imagine the attached card had hearts and 🦄 s and glitter.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


MU82

Giving food to immigrants who escaped war-torn countries: BAD! JESUS WOULD HAVE HATED THAT!

Giving Covid supplies to a dictator who wants to wipe the United States off the face of the earth instead of to Americans, who desperately needed the supplies during the worst part of the pandemic: WONDERFUL! JESUS LOVES MURDEROUS DICTATORS!

Also: Bob Woodward is a "HACK"!

Yep. A hack who played a role in ending two presidencies, including the 45th.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

forgetful

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 09, 2024, 06:59:50 AM
If you think there's an impression that we're weak now, I wonder what will happen if we re-elect a former president who has apparently been regularly talking with Putin since the invasion began?

The only people in the world that think that our previous president was strong, and respected in international relations, are republicans who don't have friends overseas, and do not travel overseas.

The former president was feared internationally, only because he disregarded alliances, and bowed down to dictators threatening the safety of the entire world. He had zero respect from anyone. Even the dictators didn't respect him, they just viewed him as an imbecile that was easy to manipulate.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: forgetful on October 09, 2024, 10:17:49 AM
The only people in the world that think that our previous president was strong, and respected in international relations, are republicans who don't have friends overseas, and do not travel overseas.

The former president was feared internationally, only because he disregarded alliances, and bowed down to dictators threatening the safety of the entire world. He had zero respect from anyone. Even the dictators didn't respect him, they just viewed him as an imbecile that was easy to manipulate.


My very exact thought every time I hear this stated about TFG.  My international contacts state exactly as you say.  My immediate family in Poland wants to know why TFG wants to just hand Poland over to Putin.

JWags85

Quote from: forgetful on October 09, 2024, 10:17:49 AM
The only people in the world that think that our previous president was strong, and respected in international relations, are republicans who don't have friends overseas, and do not travel overseas.

The former president was feared internationally, only because he disregarded alliances, and bowed down to dictators threatening the safety of the entire world. He had zero respect from anyone. Even the dictators didn't respect him, they just viewed him as an imbecile that was easy to manipulate.

I would caveat this, I think it very much depends on the mindset and perspective of people aboard.  I don't care for that sort of monolithic thinking.  Nor the idea that anyone who thinks Trump is not universally reviled in decent circles internationally is a sheltered pollyanna.

Though my issues with their business and political climate/attitudes are well known, this isn't the case in India.  The business people I know there love Trump and he's still viewed favorably in a decent number of circles.

I also know a few Europeans who lean heavily left socially who liked a Trump presidency for its positive impacts on their businesses/jobs.  They don't live in the US, don't have family in the US, so they didn't really care about the domestic policies outside of that.

YMMV, but he biggest mockers/dislikers of Trump I run into internationally tend to scoff at American politics/culture in general, regardless of who is in charge, and they just view him as an embodiment of everything they dislike about America.

Pakuni

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Quote from: JWags85 on October 09, 2024, 11:16:16 AM
I would caveat this, I think it very much depends on the mindset and perspective of people aboard.  I don't care for that sort of monolithic thinking.  Nor the idea that anyone who thinks Trump is not universally reviled in decent circles internationally is a sheltered pollyanna.

Though my issues with their business and political climate/attitudes are well known, this isn't the case in India.  The business people I know there love Trump and he's still viewed favorably in a decent number of circles.

I also know a few Europeans who lean heavily left socially who liked a Trump presidency for its positive impacts on their businesses/jobs.  They don't live in the US, don't have family in the US, so they didn't really care about the domestic policies outside of that.

YMMV, but he biggest mockers/dislikers of Trump I run into internationally tend to scoff at American politics/culture in general, regardless of who is in charge, and they just view him as an embodiment of everything they dislike about America.

Doesn't seem like many Europeans - outside Hungary - think much of Trump. But you're right about India, sort of, if you consider a 56% confidence rating much of a win. Then again, the people of India still think better of Biden than Trump.
What's not surprising - see second link - is that the right wing populists in Europe like him. The Alternative for German and UKIP people love him. I don't consider that a positive attribute for him.

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/06/11/globally-biden-receives-higher-ratings-than-trump/

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/01/08/trump-ratings-remain-low-around-globe-while-views-of-u-s-stay-mostly-favorable/


MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on October 09, 2024, 11:16:16 AM
I would caveat this, I think it very much depends on the mindset and perspective of people aboard.  I don't care for that sort of monolithic thinking.  Nor the idea that anyone who thinks Trump is not universally reviled in decent circles internationally is a sheltered pollyanna.

Though my issues with their business and political climate/attitudes are well known, this isn't the case in India.  The business people I know there love Trump and he's still viewed favorably in a decent number of circles.

I also know a few Europeans who lean heavily left socially who liked a Trump presidency for its positive impacts on their businesses/jobs.  They don't live in the US, don't have family in the US, so they didn't really care about the domestic policies outside of that.

YMMV, but he biggest mockers/dislikers of Trump I run into internationally tend to scoff at American politics/culture in general, regardless of who is in charge, and they just view him as an embodiment of everything they dislike about America.

I have numerous relatives in Europe, know many others there (mostly through investing circles), and do a lot of reading. The previous president is mostly viewed as a joke, but also as a potential danger. He certainly wasn't (and isn't) respected by the vast majority.

As my British niece said: "How the hell could you Americans possibly elect that clown again after he almost destroyed your country? I mean, we're stupid, too, but we only elected Boris Johnson once."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

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