2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread

[Jockey]

Maybe we find out today what happened.

Way too many lies from both the Bears and Williams yesterday.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Maybe we find out today what happened.

Way too many lies from both the Bears and Williams yesterday.

 

[lawdog77]

Maybe we find out today what happened.

Way too many lies from both the Bears and Williams yesterday.

[Jockey]

No I listen to what they say. Well, actually Poles refused to talk about it today and abruptly ended the press conference when asked about it.

If a friend and colleague resigned over a health issue (dubious because when someone has a health issue, giving up your medical insurance is not the 1st thing you do), the absolute 1st thing that any team would do is offer support rather than, say, give a terse 12 word statement saying good riddance.

[WhiteTrash]

No of it passes the smell test. Maybe on the 'scandal meter' it is a 1 out of 10, but I don't feel that he or the Bears are being honest.

[DegenerateDish]

McAfee is saying/reporting that the FBI did raid Williams house recently, FWIW.

[cheebs09]

McAfee is saying/reporting that the FBI did raid Williams house recently, FWIW.

Sounds like the Poles presser didn’t include any additional info. Maybe legally they can’t say much.

[lawdog77]

No I listen to what they say. Well, actually Poles refused to talk about it today and abruptly ended the press conference when asked about it.

If a friend and colleague resigned over a health issue (dubious because when someone has a health issue, giving up your medical insurance is not the 1st thing you do), the absolute 1st thing that any team would do is offer support rather than, say, give a terse 12 word statement saying good riddance.

You don't know that. You don't know what the agreement is conncerning benefits when he is resigning.

[Uncle Rico]

McAfee is saying/reporting that the FBI did raid Williams house recently, FWIW.

If he’s wrong, wonder how ESPN handles it. 

[RJax55]

If he’s wrong, wonder how ESPN handles it.

If wrong, they should send him to some crappy 11 a.m. Big Ten West game for one his alternative broadcasts.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

You don't know that. You don't know what the agreement is conncerning benefits when he is resigning.

Jockey is as big of a loser as George McCaskey is, so makes sense that he has the inside scoop.

[Jockey]

You don't know that. You don't know what the agreement is conncerning benefits when he is resigning.

You’re right. I don’t “know” it. And in a normal situation an agreement would probably have been involved. But this isn’t a normal separation. The Bears’ press release was the same as if they cut a guy from the practice squad. 12 words! For a DC. Refusing to wish him well when he resigned over health issues. That is not normal.

Don’t fool yourself. Coaches around the league are watching this. If the Bears and Williams are telling the truth, what coach would ever want to go to Chicago?

It also is a departure from Chicago’s history. They openly support and take care of players with health issues. Think Miller or Knox.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Don’t fool yourself. Coaches around the league are watching this. If the Bears and Williams are telling the truth, what coach would ever want to go to Chicago?

Are you saying that coaches are going to avoid working for the Bears because they sounded unsympathetic in a press release?

[Jockey]

Are you saying that coaches are going to avoid working for the Bears because they sounded unsympathetic in a press release?

No.

[withoutbias]

No.

Lol.

Beginning to look like maybe you're the one struggling with the English language, no?  You love to hint at things, but when someone calls you out for it you claim that's not what you're hinting at...

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

No.

Uh...yeah you are. Otherwise what does this mean?

"The Bears’ press release was the same as if they cut a guy from the practice squad. 12 words! For a DC. Refusing to wish him well when he resigned over health issues. That is not normal.

Don’t fool yourself. Coaches around the league are watching this. If the Bears and Williams are telling the truth, what coach would ever want to go to Chicago?"

[lawdog77]

You’re right. I don’t “know” it. And in a normal situation an agreement would probably have been involved. But this isn’t a normal separation. The Bears’ press release was the same as if they cut a guy from the practice squad. 12 words! For a DC. Refusing to wish him well when he resigned over health issues. That is not normal.

Don’t fool yourself. Coaches around the league are watching this. If the Bears and Williams are telling the truth, what coach would ever want to go to Chicago?

It also is a departure from Chicago’s history. They openly support and take care of players with health issues. Think Miller or Knox.

Ones that want a job in the NFL? The jobs are limited

[Jockey]

Uh...yeah you are. Otherwise what does this mean?

"The Bears’ press release was the same as if they cut a guy from the practice squad. 12 words! For a DC. Refusing to wish him well when he resigned over health issues. That is not normal.

Don’t fool yourself. Coaches around the league are watching this. If the Bears and Williams are telling the truth, what coach would ever want to go to Chicago?"

Normally, you are different than most Scoopers - you actually understand nuance.


It wasn’t about the press release. It was about having a high level coach “resign” over health issues and not expressing even an ounce of sympathy or support either in person OR in a press release. Remember, this was a coach who was a close friend of Everflus. Yet Eberflus showed no sympathy publicly. That is why I think this would give pause to other coaches.

[Jockey]

Ones that want a job in the NFL? The jobs are limited

You’re right. But guys who just want an NFL job are not near as appealing to a team as guys who have earned an NFL job. These guys want a stable environment.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Normally, you are different than most Scoopers - you actually understand nuance.


It wasn’t about the press release. It was about having a high level coach “resign” over health issues and not expressing even an ounce of sympathy or support either in person OR in a press release. Remember, this was a coach who was a close friend of Everflus. Yet Eberflus showed no sympathy publicly. That is why I think this would give pause to other coaches.

You are WAAAYYYYY overthinking this.

[Jockey]

You are WAAAYYYYY overthinking this.

Probably.

I think that’s a result of the pleasure of watching the Bears unravel so quickly.

6 months ago, it was a different story. Fields was gonna make a 3rd year jump in reading defenses. They were in position to take the consensus #1 player in the draft at a position that Eberflus said was the most important on his defense. And they had a ton of cap room to fix the offensive line.

Oops. Crash and burn on all points.

[withoutbias]

You’re right. But guys who just want an NFL job are not near as appealing to a team as guys who have earned an NFL job. These guys want a stable environment.

Anyone who is an NFL assistant coach and values a "stable environment" is in the wrong career.

[Pakuni]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1704971145147982030

[Pakuni]

Probably.

I think that’s a result of the pleasure of watching the Bears unravel so quickly.

6 months ago, it was a different story. Fields was gonna make a 3rd year jump in reading defenses. They were in position to take the consensus #1 player in the draft at a position that Eberflus said was the most important on his defense. And they had a ton of cap room to fix the offensive line.

Oops. Crash and burn on all points.

The Bears were never going to draft Jalen Carter. They were among several teams that took him off the board.

[RJax55]

Probably.

I think that’s a result of the pleasure of watching the Bears unravel so quickly.

6 months ago, it was a different story. Fields was gonna make a 3rd year jump in reading defenses. They were in position to take the consensus #1 player in the draft at a position that Eberflus said was the most important on his defense. And they had a ton of cap room to fix the offensive line.

Oops. Crash and burn on all points.

None of that has anything to do with Alan Williams.

Yes, the situation with Williams is odd. I'm sure a fuller picture of what's going on with him will emerge.

The Bears are saying very little. It's difficult for me to critique the approach without any details. It's possible that the team may not know the full extent of the situation as well.