Kolek planning to go pro
The 6 ft number is meaningless.
As you went on to state - it's not meaningless at all - it's just somewhat arbitrary. Though for folks passing each other, not breathing heavily, and not stopping, it should be a relatively safe distance - even without PPE.
There have been a number of studies on this. The 6 ft number is meaningless. Droplets from a cough can spread up to 30 feet. 6 ft is sufficient for droplets released during normal talking/eating. But if you are running or biking, it has been shown that you need to provide 30 feet running (if you are behind them in the slip stream) or 30 m biking. If you actually just shift to the side a bit before those distances you are then somewhat safe.Another study showed along the coasts/beaches, that have significant wind, the distances need to be substantially larger. Not sure that people actually saw those studies and are acting accordingly, or are simply trying to be over cautious/over polite.
I really would like to see those studies and what they say. I would think that if you were 25 feet behind someone running (or 25 meters behind someone on a bike) outdoors and shifted to the side a bit, you would be much better off than "somewhat safe." As I said above, I don't doubt that it is possible to be infected by a virus in those situations, but the odds would be astronomical. I'd bet heavily that the odds of being infected outdoors at a distance of 25 feet (running) or 25 meters (biking) is far, far safer than the oft-cited six feet (which rocky correctly characterized as "relatively safe"). Honestly, I'd be surprised if the risk in those circumstances isn't essentially negligible. Frankly, if it's not we're all doomed.
I might have to increase my self ban on beef and cheddars to 96 hours. I was not being precise in my language, I also mis-remembered some of the distances. Here is the link to the paper.http://www.urbanphysics.net/Social%20Distancing%20v20_White_Paper.pdfand the related news article.https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-social-distancing-walking-running-cyclists-advice-a9457431.htmland a NYtimes article (which may not have converted from metric correctly).https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/well/move/running-social-distancing.htmlThe slip stream distances are 4 m for walking, 10 m for running, 20 m for biking. There exact language is 2 m is "very effective" indoors or standing still for "exhaled droplets." That is different than coughed droplets in my mind. I will do my best to be more precise/accurate with language moving forward.
Hey someone woke up the CDC.....and it’s frightening! https://wapo.st/2Vsvu5G
I can't read the article because it's behind a paywall.Does the head of CDC apologize for horribly botching their initial attempts to make test kits, and acknowledge that this wouldn't be nearly as bad if they had gotten their sh!t together sooner?Edit: Is WaPo the only major newspaper that still has its COVID stories behind a paywall? Both NYT and WSJ have been allowing access for quite a while.
Trump says he will issue an executive order suspending immigration.https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/us/coronavirus-live-news.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=HomepageHe is so confident that we have this solved that he calls to “liberate” states ASAP, but so concerned about the spread that he suspends immigration. Yeah - vilifying the “others” is gonna solve this....
Polls overwhelmingly supporting temporary immigration ban (USA Today 79% approve, 11% disapprove). Vilifying the “others” evidently popular with Republicans, Democrats and Independents.
Good for you, finding something to celebrate. Happy for you.Does this include the essential workers at the bottom of the food supply chain?
I don’t disagree but what would you say the most impactful thing the govt could enact given the current environment?IMO there are things higher in the list, but curious if I am undervaluing this decision.
I think you’re right. This probably makes us a little safer and gives our workers first shot when we reopen, but it’s by no means a game changer. But it’s not a racist policy meant to vilify “others”, either.
It’s amazing what fear can do to rationality.
Hatred, too.
"I don't take responsibility at all".On Sunday in another attempt to blame Obama, Trump said, “We took, ah, they had tests that were no good, they had, all the stuff was no good. It came from somewhere, so whoever came up with it.”Just curious how Obama's team could have developed a test for a virus that was not to occur until 3 years after he left office.