Oso planning to go pro
One in 5000 chance of getting breakthrough COVID, maybe up to 1/10,000 depending on the locale, if vaxed. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/07/briefing/risk-breakthrough-infections-delta.htmlAdding free link:https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-5-000-real-chances-183201138.html
Fluff, I think what a lot of folks like you and I are trying to do is simply live our lives. I do find it interesting that there seems to be a segment in society that feels the need to comment on our doing that. No doubt there's a cottage industry out there that profits on the fear. That fear is probably legitimate for the morons that don't get vaxxed. This crap can actually kill them. But for us, nope, at least statistically speaking. Meaning that if we do end up being a breakthrough, it's gonna cost us a week on our couch. So yeah, we went to Summerfest last weekend. Living our lives.
This isn’t an attack, cause I always respect your perspective and opinion on this topic, agree or not, but I keep seeing this pop up when people talk masks. I’ve been fortunate to travel a bunch in Asia for work. HK, multiple parts of China, Thailand, Japan, Singapore, Indonesia, etc… and I’ve never seen this to be the case. Do you see it more than in the US during non-COVID times? Of course. But in all my travels, it’s still infrequent enough that you do a double take. One of my trade shows is in HK in the heart of flu/cold season, people traveling from all over Asia to visit, and you won’t see more than handful over the tens of thousands of people in and around the show. It just feels like people use evidence from the SARS epidemic and the masks surrounding that and the years after to make it seem like masks are widespread. (Granted this isn’t talking somewhere like Beijing where smog is literally hazardous to health)
You're taking the necessary precautions, doing what's best for those around you by getting vaccinated and living your life as you see fit.That's awesome. I'm doing the same. Parties, ballgames, restaurants, vacations, etc. All without a mask unless required by the venue.Now, if someone you don't intimately know, for reasons you don't know, chooses to take some additional precaution because that makes him or her feel more comfortable - even if they're not the exact same precautions you decide are necessary for you - do you have a problem with that? Does it upset you? Make you feel the need to cast aspersions on or mock that person? Make judgements about that person and their state of mind based on a bunch of assumptions? Point to that person as a shining example of society trapped by fear?Me, I just live my life and let them live theirs.
Yet as mentioned upstream, we likely all know people that have had break through cases. If your stats were correct, that likely would not be true, knowing people with break through cases would be rare.I have coworkers, neighbors, and friends all with break through cases. Granted only one ended up in hospitalization (yah science!), but if your numbers were right, I would know an inordinately large percentage of the break through cases.
So I'll use your comment to reply to what 82 and Frenns was alluding to as well. I'm not really concerned about the extra precautions others are taking. Their business. I can tell you that there were folks on the beach in Maui last Spring wearing masks in a 15mph sea breeze. Not me; no skin off my nose (no pun intended.)
I would still argue that her personal actions are not illogical, as it is based on an individuals circumstances. A mask mandate in such an environment (like the outdoor mandate in Oregon) would be illogical.
Saw a new one in Madison today. Guy on a motorcycle, solo, wearing a helmet with a full faceshield (clear). So he was protected from bugs and other road debris. Also had a covid mask on under the faceshield. Illogical.
Is it possible he just forgot to take it off when he first got on the bike, decided it wasn't worth the trouble as he started riding and will wait till he gets to his destination?I've caught myself with a mask in my car because I leave the hospital with it on and my mind is focused on other things until after a few minutes in the car.
first thing off leaving the operatory-micorscopes, gloves followed by mask all the while my mind is focusing on many other things, like getting my fantasy baseball team ready for tonights games
We should criticize those who refuse to be vaccinated. They deserve it for their recklessness and the havoc they are spreading. But people taking over precautions for Covid is NOT a problem in this country.