Oso planning to go pro
Yea, but 2 years ago when he was wearing a green jersey, no packer fan would have brought that up, which is hypocritical. He was a saint as long as he was green, right?
I was making a joke, I don't wear blinders.
Oh, it's entirely hypocritical. I dare say we're not the only ones guilty, though. I wasn't alive, but I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that not many Bears fans bashed McMahon's boyish antics back in 1985. Also, Favre DID clean himself up a lot post-1999, but to be fair it wouldn't have mattered either way. Packer fans wouldn't have said a word.
What I find shocking the the blind love of the guy when he wears green and gold and the blind hatred of the guy when he wears purple.
Why do you find this shocking? Isn't this one of the most basic parts of fan behavior?
Exactly. Fan is a derivative of Fanatic which is defined as "a person motivated by irrational enthusiasm."Being a fan is why I don't have to back up a statement like, "Anyone that wears purple likes balls." with facts.
No, it's actually not difficult at all. Just look at the lines you quoted. Not a big math guy, I take it...
I'm a big numbers guy. The difference between +160, +140 and +200 is the closest 3 way race out of all the divisions. Being +140 doesn't make you a consensus favorite. Not a big gambler, I take it...
Sure, I get that name calling is cool to Packer all fans.
See...Fudge PackersSincinnattiScrubs99.99% of fans, I won't say all because you will probably say you don't call other teams names, call their arch rivals derogatory names. Look at any intense rivalry and at the center you will find blind loyalty/hatred. NYY/BOS, MICH/OSU, LAD/SFO, etc...
Yea, but aren't we always told that Packer fans are different and classier than the rest of the NFL? I mean, I agree with you about all rivalries, but Pack fans tend to promote themselves pretty hard. Shouldn't they hold themselves to higher standards?My gut says that when Brett and his family go to GB, there will be some vandalism and/or threats made. I hope not. But, I can see it happening. People are crazy. Unless Wilf flies the family in on a jet and gets them out of there with armed guards... but if that happens people will only use it as ammo to say that Brett and his family are conceited and think they are better than everybody else. I think I'm answering my own questions here... Packer fans will never respect the Vikings as an organization, no matter how many titles they win, or what stadium they sell out, or who plays QB. GB fans will always look down their noses at the Vikes because GB was a dominant team from 1970-1990... errrr.... wait....
See...Fudge PackersSincinnattiScrubs99.99% of fans, I won't say all because you will probably say you don't call other teams names, call their arch rivals derogatory names. Look at any intense rivalry and at the center you will find blind loyalty/hatred. NYY/BOS, MICH/OSU, LAD/SFO, etc...Note: I am not a Packer fan. In fact I hate the Packers, and their fans. But it is not your normal hatred. It is a hatred born almost out of mutual respect. If that makes any sense. But I would expect they feel the same about me.
Bears fan? Then yes, hatred born out of mutual respect is the perfect description of how I feel. If I were at a Bears game at Lambeau, I'd proudly chant "The Bears Still Suck" as loudly and often as I could, but I'd have no problem sharing a brat and a brew with MOST Bears fans I encounter.On the other hand, the amount of Vikings fans that I get along with in the same manner is certainly a minority in their fan base. The stereotype could be described as in your face, arrogant, and a deep, deep inferiority complex. The Bears are second only to the Packers in titles, and that rivalry goes back a long, long ways with a lot of great memories and two very similarly built fan bases who weather the elements on a weekly basis at their respective venues. @2002mualum - I guess it depends what you mean by "different and classier." I'd argue more passionate, for sure. Go to Green Bay on a game day if you haven't been, and you'll understand what I'm talking about. Maybe Pittsburgh and Kansas City are in the same league. Not many more. Chicago doesn't LIVE football. Neither does Minneapolis, Detroit, Atlanta, New Orleans or any of these other NFL cities. They have other stuff going on to distract them. Green Bay? What else is there to do but football?As far as class? Sure, there's exceptions, but I don't EVER see the constant threats to opposing fans at Lambeau like you hear about at Philly and other places, ESPECIALLY with the older generations of fans that still hold most of the season tickets. But generally the population of Lambeau is there to cheer on the Packers, not to seek out an opposing fan and give them hell, at least not any more than playful banter. Heck, my dad and I bring up about 12 brats to every game we go, eat 4 of them, and give the rest to people passing by for free, Packer fans or not.At the NFC Championship game two years ago, we had a half hour conversation while enjoying a burger with a few Giants fans who had flown in that morning. Both said they had never seen an opposing fan base be so courteous and accommodating to he and his son before the game, and he had been to Jets games at the Meadowlands, Dallas, Philly, and Washington.I guess I have nothing else to tell you outside of personal experiences. Sure, I wear some pretty heavily tinted green and gold glasses, but there's a reason that anytime anyone (ESPN, Sports Illustrated, etc.) decide to do an NFL stadium review, Lambeau Field remains the class of the league.
B. Fans of the 2nd best team, championship wise, in the history of the NFL. That saved its own stadium by doing anything possible to keep the stadium it had and not move to the suburbs. It is 100x better than the dump you call a stadium that you can't even sell out for a playoff game. We love...not worship a coach who won 3 Super bowl rings and knew his players did not care about individual stats as long as they won the championship. Something you will never know in your lifetime.
Bizarre you use 'SaintPaul' as your name.
Bizarre you use 'SaintPaul' as your name. 'Keep the stadium'? like Green Bay did... when I got to Marquette, I recall them playing in Milwaukee a few times a year. They kept one of their stadiums. Nice! Packers fans are far more weird and obsessed than most fans. It's a simple fact. I may go to a Brewers game rocking a Purple Favre jersey just to drum up some lawsuits. Easy money, but the stadium might flood with tears. Unfortunately I couldn't ever bring myself to wear a Favre jersey. The disgusting display of green #4 jerseys every Friday during my years at Marquette... much too difficult to forget. Yet, I will cheer for our guy, the guy that wanted to be in Minnesota always... the guy whose addition to our squad clearly makes us a better team, despite what some nimwits on here claim. But, I'm not wearing a #4 jersey. As made evident by some of the people on this message board, though, any purple jersey could easily evoke great sadness/madness/more-than-usual craziness from Green Bay/Milwaukee some of the time until the mid 90s fans. Keep the bets coming in people... the CONSENSUS pick for the NFC North championship is going to make me more money.
Please, enlighten me on what it is about Favre that automatically elevates you to Super Bowl status?