Pray for Charlie Kirk

[Uncle Rico]

Wellsstreetwanderer, I am glad you are here and brought this up.  For those of us who don't usually pay attention to young, conservative influencers, can you help explain the nuance between Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes?  And why a (possible)Fuentes acolyte would deem it appropriate to shoot Charlie Kirk?  Thanks.

lol

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Please rethink your remark. The shooter's demographics are obvious. George Carlin once remarked how they always assassinate those who , like Charlie, propose we all live in peace and harmony: Jesus, Ghandi, MLK,Kennedys ...

teal?

[tower912]

lol

Nope. Never stop learning.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Nope. Never stop learning.

Not your post, his

[Jockey]

Asked Friday on "Fox & Friends" how Americans can "come back together" to "fix this country" after the fatal shooting in Utah on Wednesday that conservatives have blamed on Democrats and the media, Trump appeared wholly disinterested in any semblance of reconciliation.
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"I'll tell you something that's going to get me in trouble, but I couldn't care less," he said.

[Uncle Rico]

Asked Friday on "Fox & Friends" how Americans can "come back together" to "fix this country" after the fatal shooting in Utah on Wednesday that conservatives have blamed on Democrats and the media, Trump appeared wholly disinterested in any semblance of reconciliation.
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"I'll tell you something that's going to get me in trouble, but I couldn't care less," he said.

Muggsy, care to comment?

[Shaka Shart]

Please rethink your remark. The shooter's demographics are obvious. George Carlin once remarked how they always assassinate those who , like Charlie, propose we all live in peace and harmony: Jesus, Ghandi, MLK,Kennedys ...

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[Jockey]

Is there some kind of Mormon merit badge for teaching your kids to shoot straight?

[Jay Bee]

Is there some kind of Mormon merit badge for teaching your kids to shoot straight?

This is a worthwhile post. Thank you for posing the question.

[CreightonWarrior]

Been offline at a golf outing all day, did they cancel the civil war?

[Scoop Snoop]

Muggsy, care to comment?

He's been uncharacteristically quiet. Maybe he's on another vacation.

[pbiflyer]

Muggsy, care to comment?

Not mug but I'm shocked he actually got the phase correct.

[Uncle Rico]

He's been uncharacteristically quiet. Maybe he's on another vacation.

He can't comprehend the truth.  Like usual

[Uncle Rico]

WSJ seemed certain this was a cut and dry case.  Now they're stunned the guy that committed the crime was capable of this.

Certain it was transgender shooter and now it's a white guy from a stable, gun-loving family and can't figure out how it happened.

Both sides, Muggsy.

[Billy Hoyle]

So, is it finally time, at long last, to deport all Mormons?

Ban them from owning guns.

[Skatastrophy]

Ban them from owning guns.

Joseph Smith was the first presidential candidate to be assassinated, murdered by a mob in Illinois. They were pushed out West after they were expelled from Missouri and Illinois.

We midwesterners have a history of crushing religious extremism. 

[The Lens]

Them: Killed by the left because he spoke the truth

Reality: Killed by the right because he spoke a watered down truth

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Joseph Smith was the first presidential candidate to be assassinated, murdered by a mob in Illinois. They were pushed out West after they were expelled from Missouri and Illinois.

We midwesterners have a history of crushing religious extremism.

Everytime I go visit the daughter in Vermont I pass the I-89 highway sign that reads "Joseph Smith Birthplace Exit xx".

[MuggsyB]

He can't comprehend the truth.  Like usual

I've never defended Trump's rhetoric.  Or Trump himself, for that matter. It's super interesting that you and others here constantly accuse the other political side of "whataboutisn" and "shifting goalposts."  Basically, what I've read here is exactly that and pretty fking embarrassing.  All I know is a conservative influencer with two kids under 3 was assassinated, and many on the left have been gleeful about it. I could care less about the murderer or what his views were.

As for fanning the flames?  It's absolutely both sides.  And very prevalent with the radical wing of your party.  It's not just Trump who is called a nazi/fascist/dictator every day, it's an ideology that everyone who voted for him are evil. And it's spread nearly every freaking day by a wide range of people in leadership positions, the mainstream media, and entertainment. 

I obviously have heard of Charlie Kirk but honestly didn't follow him at all.  What I do know is conservative voices shouldn't need a swat team to speak on University campuses.  Does this happen for Liberal speakers?  I don't think so.  The actual truth is that the far left is virulently anti-anerican and extremely dangerous.  The far right as well, those that are actually white nationalists, are of course dangerous .  But I believe the ideological impact of the radical left has a far larger outreach and worse ramifications.

[jesmu84]

Hmm

[Galway Eagle]

I've never defended Trump's rhetoric.  Or Trump himself, for that matter. It's super interesting that you and others here constantly accuse the other political side of "whataboutisn" and "shifting goalposts."  Basically, what I've read here is exactly that and pretty fking embarrassing.  All I know is a conservative influencer with two kids under 3 was assassinated, and many on the left have been gleeful about it. I could care less about the murderer or what his views were.

As for fanning the flames?  It's absolutely both sides.  And very prevalent with the radical wing of your party.  It's not just Trump who is called a nazi/fascist/dictator every day, it's an ideology that everyone who voted for him are evil. And it's spread nearly every freaking day by a wide range of people in leadership positions, the mainstream media, and entertainment. 

I obviously have heard of Charlie Kirk but honestly didn't follow him at all.  What I do know is conservative voices shouldn't need a swat team to speak on University campuses.  Does this happen for Liberal speakers?  I don't think so.  The actual truth is that the far left is virulently anti-anerican and extremely dangerous.  The far right as well, those that are actually white nationalists, are of course dangerous .  But I believe the ideological impact of the radical left has a far larger outreach and worse ramifications.

In other words: Ignores death count, ignores study tallying likelihood of violence, ignores the posts comparing rhetoric, defaults to "my feelings!"

[TSmith34, Inc.]

As for fanning the flames?  It's absolutely both sides.  And very prevalent with the radical wing of your party.  It's not just Trump who is called a nazi/fascist/dictator every day, it's an ideology that everyone who voted for him are evil. And it's spread nearly every freaking day by a wide range of people in leadership positions, the mainstream media, and entertainment. 

You're simply wrong. But you are a simpleton, so that checks out. Compare the reactions to Paul Pelosi or the murdered politicians in Minnesota to that of Charlie Kirk and tell me how "a wide range of people in leadership positions" reacted.

Not that facts have any chance in penetrating your feelings, but here you go:

https://www.start.umd.edu/profiles-individual-radicalization-united-states-pirus-keshif

[pbiflyer]

Suddenly, quoting Charlie Kirk is deeply offensive to Charlie Kirk fans.

[jesmu84]

Hmm

[tower912]

Muggsy, considering your diatribes about animals and the Middle East, it is easy to see how you would think the rhetoric from the extremes of either side is equally toxic.   However, as far as actual political violence, the actual data is pretty one sided.