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PointWarrior

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 08, 2025, 08:27:54 PMGreat, 4th (seeded fifth) in a five bid (hopefully) league, 2-6 against the top 4, with the wins coming in December when both opponents were short handed. It is possible we'll go into the post season unranked. Is that what you expected when we entered January?


5th in conference, yeah!!!

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 08, 2025, 09:05:05 PM5th in conference, yeah!!!

What team are you a fan of?  It's not Marquette.

drbob

What if Shaka had used the portal last year and got Eogafor for us instead of St John's getting him. Think one player would have made a difference to this years results?! Instead of signing another project.  Maybe the bag was too big

MU82

Quote from: drbob on March 08, 2025, 09:50:11 PMWhat if Shaka had used the portal last year and got Eogafor for us instead of St John's getting him. Think one player would have made a difference to this years results?! Instead of signing another project.  Maybe the bag was too big

Yeah! And what if Shaka had successfully recruited Cooper Flagg? Think he would have made a difference? Can't believe Shaka missed on him.
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tower912

Quote from: MU82 on March 08, 2025, 09:53:17 PMYeah! And what if Shaka had successfully recruited Cooper Flagg? Think he would have made a difference? Can't believe Shaka missed on him.
MU was never in on Flagg. Knueppel, on the other hand... 

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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Newsdreams on March 08, 2025, 08:46:35 PMLeague standings or seeds, have no direct correlation to NCAAT / seeds

I didn't say they did. But on Feb 1 we were projected as a 2 or 3 seed. Now what, 6 or 7?
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JTJ3

Quote from: drbob on March 08, 2025, 09:50:11 PMWhat if Shaka had used the portal last year and got Eogafor for us instead of St John's getting him. Think one player would have made a difference to this years results?! Instead of signing another project.  Maybe the bag was too big

Zuby sucked at Kansas.  I think most people here would have complained that he wasnt good enough to waste a scholarship on.  Kudos to St Johns for developing him, but thats just the unknown of the portal.

Newsdreams

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 08, 2025, 10:11:08 PMI didn't say they did. But on Feb 1 we were projected as a 2 or 3 seed. Now what, 6 or 7?
The way you wrote is what it implied.
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PointWarrior

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 08, 2025, 09:20:04 PMWhat team are you a fan of?  It's not Marquette.

You happy with a 5th place finish in a crappy conference this year?

wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 08, 2025, 10:11:08 PMI didn't say they did. But on Feb 1 we were projected as a 2 or 3 seed. Now what, 6 or 7?

Maybe you should rally all the rich and famous people you're constantly rubbing elbows with and get some money for either portal guys or to get a coach in here who will use the portal. We deserve better as fans.

The Sultan

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 08, 2025, 11:17:09 PMYou happy with a 5th place finish in a crappy conference this year?

They finished tied for fourth.
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tower912

Right where they were projected to.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Right. And I don't think anyone is "happy" about it considering how they started. But there is nothing anyone here can do about it, so...
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Zog from Margo

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 08, 2025, 11:17:09 PMYou happy with a 5th place finish in a crappy conference this year?

Wojo would've been.

The Sultan

Again, I do hope that Shaka does look at the portal for a one or two year big this off-season. I do like Ben, but I just think he struggles with the physicality and is better as more of a "stretch 4" type of player. I doubt Caedin will be ready, and Clark is too much of an unknown. And who knows about Al.
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Newsdreams on March 08, 2025, 10:43:06 PMThe way you wrote is what it implied.

I never referenced or implied anything about NCAA tourney seeding. I talked about our start, our disappointing finish, and how we had a very poor record against the top four. But we know people will interpret anything how they want to even if it isn't there.
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Zog from Margo

Quote from: tower912 on March 09, 2025, 08:05:56 AMRight where they were projected to.

That's exactly right. MU is not as talented this season and, outside of Chase, the starting group wasn't particularly athletic. MU's in-season development depended on sophomores and freshmen. Parham and Lowery are coming along well now. Teams with transfers started to gel more as the season went on. I'll be curious to see how the BE teams do in the NCAA.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 08, 2025, 11:17:09 PMYou happy with a 5th place finish in a crappy conference this year?

After losing two Marquette greats to the NBA and two straight 2-seeds, I can live with being tied for FOURTH and comfortably in the tourney.

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#93
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2025, 08:49:53 AMAfter losing two Marquette greats to the NBA and two straight 2-seeds, I can live with being tied for FOURTH and comfortably in the tourney.

That's the reality of Marquette basketball. There will be peaks and valleys.  I can live with the valleys being tournament seasons, as long as the peaks get back to top 15 seasons.

I'm not opposed to taking transfers, but at this point Shaka has really leaned into HS recruiting over the portal. That's become his selling point that differentiates Marquette in recruiting.  Recruits like Adrien Stevens and Ian Miletic have even talked about it being a factor for them.  They chose Marquette over schools like Villanova and Illinois, schools that are very active in the portal.  I'm sure that's part of the recruiting pitch to JJ Andrews and Alex Egbuonu, especially when we're up against schools like Arkansas and Auburn that have a ton of transfers on their roster.

So until Shaka changes course, lands a transfer, or even has someone in the portal take a visit, I'm going to assume Marquette won't be going that route.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 09, 2025, 09:15:27 AMThat's the reality of Marquette basketball. There will be peaks and valleys.  I can live with the valleys being tournament seasons, as long as the peaks get back to top 15 seasons.

I'm not opposed to taking transfers, but at this point Shaka has really leaned into HS recruiting over the portal. That's become his selling point that differentiates Marquette in recruiting.  Recruits like Adrien Stevens and Ian Miletic have even talked about it being a factor for them.  They chose Marquette over schools like Villanova and Illinois, schools that are very active in the portal.  I'm sure that's part of the recruiting pitch to JJ Andrews and Alex Egbuonu, especially when we're up against schools like Arkansas and Auburn have a ton of transfers on their roster.

So until Shaka changes course, lands a transfer, or even has someone in the portal take a visit, I'm going to assume Marquette won't be going that route.

Nice post! Your wording regarding Shaka's M.O. is the best I have seen. He has not ruled out transfers but has made it clear that HS recruiting and development of them is his preference. I would not be shocked to see him bring in a transfer at some point in the future but there is no hurry until his M.O. needs an "exception". And of course, portal pushers have been quick to use this season's "valley" as a reason to go into the portal.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 09, 2025, 08:42:07 AMI never referenced or implied anything about NCAA tourney seeding. I talked about our start, our disappointing finish, and how we had a very poor record against the top four. But we know people will interpret anything how they want to even if it isn't there.
You said 5 BET seed, in hopefully a 5 BE tournament league. To me that implies since MU is a 5 seed, need to have 5 BE teams to get in, sorry if I miss interpreted, but that how I read it.
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BCHoopster

Talent is not as good next year, so it makes total sense to bring in a seasoned scorer or a big. Grad transfer unless some players leave.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 09, 2025, 10:37:54 AMTalent is not as good next year, so it makes total sense to bring in a seasoned scorer or a big. Grad transfer unless some players leave.

In terms of raw talent I disagree.

In terms of experience and proven production, sure.

Billy Hoyle

#98
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 09, 2025, 09:57:23 AMYou said 5 BET seed, in hopefully a 5 BE tournament league. To me that implies since MU is a 5 seed, need to have 5 BE teams to get in, sorry if I miss interpreted, but that how I read it.

I understand. I was referring to the BET only and our drop off in February. Xavier is considered a bubble team so it may only be a four bid league. All good. Ring out Ahoya!
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willie warrior

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 09, 2025, 09:53:34 AMNice post! Your wording regarding Shaka's M.O. is the best I have seen. He has not ruled out transfers but has made it clear that HS recruiting and development of them is his preference. I would not be shocked to see him bring in a transfer at some point in the future but there is no hurry until his M.O. needs an "exception". And of course, portal pushers have been quick to use this season's "valley" as a reason to go into the portal.

His MO needs exceptions. He must get with the reality of what college basketball now is. Change or get passed by.
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