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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: willie warrior on March 09, 2025, 11:40:03 AMHis MO needs exceptions. He must get with the reality of what college basketball now is. Change or get passed by.

If you are that convinced that is what he should do, you absolutely must find a way to get your message to him face-to-face. Go for it!
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Newsdreams

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 09, 2025, 11:47:36 AMIf you are that convinced that is what he should do, you absolutely must find a way to get your message to him face-to-face. Go for it!
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Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 09, 2025, 09:53:34 AMNice post! Your wording regarding Shaka's M.O. is the best I have seen. He has not ruled out transfers but has made it clear that HS recruiting and development of them is his preference. I would not be shocked to see him bring in a transfer at some point in the future but there is no hurry until his M.O. needs an "exception". And of course, portal pushers have been quick to use this season's "valley" as a reason to go into the portal.


I agree, JAM said it well.

I have stated I'm concerned about next year.  BUT, Shaka knows the stats and he sees the team daily.  He has been around high level players his entire professional career.  He knows what he has left over in that locker room after this season.  He is one competitive dude. He will use the portal if he thinks he needs it to field a legitimately competitive team.  My feeling is that may happen this offseason.  I also think 1-2 players leave on their own accord that will allow Shaka to do this without breaking his recruiting pledge. I am open to being really wrong. 

MU82

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Quote from: The Sultan on March 09, 2025, 08:36:05 AMAgain, I do hope that Shaka does look at the portal for a one or two year big this off-season. I do like Ben, but I just think he struggles with the physicality and is better as more of a "stretch 4" type of player. I doubt Caedin will be ready, and Clark is too much of an unknown. And who knows about Al.

I thought the same two years ago, that our rotation would have been well-served even by a "Jayce Johnson type" who could play 15-20 minutes, grab some boards, block some shots and use his fouls. And I agree that would be welcome again next season.

But I've also learned to trust Shaka on most things because he has not given me reason to do otherwise. He has been great for the program, and I've really enjoyed his time at Marquette. It's been fun to have buddies from all around the country get into MU hoops again after they had drifted away post-Hausershima.

It doesn't mean he's perfect or that he's above criticism or suggestions. You and I have made suggestions right here, and they are reasonable IMHO. It just means that those calling for a big-time revision to how he runs the program are probably unreasonable, uninformed and myopic.
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willie warrior

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 09, 2025, 11:47:36 AMIf you are that convinced that is what he should do, you absolutely must find a way to get your message to him face-to-face. Go for it!
I di believe it. He has not invited me to any face to face discussions. Perhaps with your inside help you could make this happen. Go for it.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

MU82

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 09, 2025, 10:37:54 AMTalent is not as good next year, so it makes total sense to bring in a seasoned scorer or a big. Grad transfer unless some players leave.

How do you know? The talent was perceived to be so lacking going into the 2022-23 season that Big East coaches predicted we'd finish 9th. (F--- 'em!) There was plenty of teeth-gnashing here about TK not being a good enough PG, Oso not being a good enough 5, OMax being too out of control, and about there being no proven role players.

Obviously, we don't know if next season will turn out as 2022-23 did. I certainly wouldn't predict it. But the certainty you have is quite impressive given all you don't know.
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Quote from: wadesworld on March 11, 2025, 12:18:51 PMWhy would he transfer to Concordia?  Guessing he wants to move up a level.

Seems like he's great in small gyms. Similar to Joplin. Would be a great fit at Concordia
VIOLENCE!

GoldenEagles03

This guy shot 44% from 3, with that athleticism, wow.

Surprised this is the 1st I've seen or heard of him. I'm sure every blue blood will be all over this.

https://x.com/PDTScouting/status/1901695235018891526?t=J7IBboD8bfvK-pdwqoHvRg&s=19
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onepost

Well, predictably, it seems like Iowa fans jumped the gun and Owen Freeman sounds to be deciding between Michigan and Gonzaga. But the real doozy on discord is there's tons of smoke that Braden Smith is testing the portal waters.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 17, 2025, 06:05:09 PMThis guy shot 44% from 3, with that athleticism, wow.

Surprised this is the 1st I've seen or heard of him. I'm sure every blue blood will be all over this.

https://x.com/PDTScouting/status/1901695235018891526?t=J7IBboD8bfvK-pdwqoHvRg&s=19

He took more long 2s in that 2 minute video then our entire team has taken in the past three seasons. Literally
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willie warrior

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 09, 2025, 11:47:36 AMIf you are that convinced that is what he should do, you absolutely must find a way to get your message to him face-to-face. Go for it!
I am glad for your concern for my messages. Wish you could be whispering in Shaka's ear because we all know that he would listen to you. BTW, eventually Shaka will wake up. It may already be too late.
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wadesworld

Quote from: willie warrior on March 18, 2025, 10:07:53 AMI am glad for your concern for my messages. Wish you could be whispering in Shaka's ear because we all know that he would listen to you. BTW, eventually Shaka will wake up. It may already be too late.

Shaka has 2 top 2 seeds, a BE title, a BE Tournament title, and is the second highest seed in the BE this year in 4 years here. Shaka's doing fine. You're just a baby.

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When looking at teams using the portal, it is important to only look at the teams doing better than Marquette.  Never look at teams doing the same or worse.

Please ignore teams like Kansas, Gonzaga, Xavier, Indiana, Kansas State, Georgetown, Providence, etc.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: willie warrior on March 18, 2025, 10:07:53 AMI am glad for your concern for my messages. Wish you could be whispering in Shaka's ear because we all know that he would listen to you. BTW, eventually Shaka will wake up. It may already be too late.

Get woke, go broke.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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Viper

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Quote from: wadesworld on March 18, 2025, 12:24:07 PMShaka has 2 top 2 seeds, a BE title, a BE Tournament title, and is the second highest seed in the BE this year in 4 years here. Shaka's doing fine. You're just a baby.
agreed, 100% (although I feel we wasted those two 2-seedings) However, this years MU team, in a weak BE aside from StJ's, is not on a positive trend. Should MU have the higher seed over UConn and Creighton?...regardless, I feel Shaka's recruiting approach needs to adjust to include the portal. And, maybe it has. Who knows? But, and making the assumption StJ's under RickyP is the benchmark...Hurley too, I don't think relying on HS recruits and taking fliers on bigs will duplicate past success as the top dogs reload. Agree or disagree w/WillieWarrior, but he does understand that status quo doesn't win big.
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Quote from: Viper on March 18, 2025, 12:48:39 PMagreed, 100% (although I feel we wasted those two 2-seedings) However, this years MU team, in a weak BE aside from StJ's, is not on a positive trend. Should MU have the higher seed over UConn and Creighton?...regardless, I feel Shaka's recruiting approach needs to adjust to include the portal. And, maybe it has. Who knows? But, and making the assumption StJ's under RickyP is the benchmark...Hurley too, I don't think relying on HS recruits and taking fliers on bigs will duplicate past success as the top dogs reload. Agree or disagree w/WillieWarrior, but he does understand that status quo doesn't win big.

Joyless willie certainly understands the importance of calling Marquette athletes names and thinking he knows more about our program than our coach does.
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willie warrior

Quote from: wadesworld on March 18, 2025, 12:24:07 PMShaka has 2 top 2 seeds, a BE title, a BE Tournament title, and is the second highest seed in the BE this year in 4 years here. Shaka's doing fine. You're just a baby.
Guess you missed how Shaka finished this season. Weakest since year 1. You are not doing fine, and your name calling trash talk needs major upgrading.
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Its DJOver

If by weakest you mean he's only won 24 games with 13 coming in the regular season conference play rather than the 27 and 14 or 29 and 17 of the previous two years, then you are technically correct. I know a lot of programs that would would love a 24 win season that extends their tournament streak to 4, while keeping the tournament appearance percentage at 100%.
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Viper

Quote from: Its DJOver on March 18, 2025, 01:29:37 PMIf by weakest you mean he's only won 24 games with 13 coming in the regular season conference play rather than the 27 and 14 or 29 and 17 of the previous two years, then you are technically correct. I know a lot of programs that would would love a 24 win season that extends their tournament streak to 4, while keeping the tournament appearance percentage at 100%.
past success doesn't necessarily guarantee future success. You can see the trend. Don't you agree that if it's status quo in terms of recruiting and retention, we'll ultimately end up with new steak knives at year end rather than Cadillacs. Some folks are ok with that.
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Quote from: Viper on March 18, 2025, 12:48:39 PMagreed, 100% (although I feel we wasted those two 2-seedings) However, this years MU team, in a weak BE aside from StJ's, is not on a positive trend. Should MU have the higher seed over UConn and Creighton?...regardless, I feel Shaka's recruiting approach needs to adjust to include the portal. And, maybe it has. Who knows? But, and making the assumption StJ's under RickyP is the benchmark...Hurley too, I don't think relying on HS recruits and taking fliers on bigs will duplicate past success as the top dogs reload. Agree or disagree w/WillieWarrior, but he does understand that status quo doesn't win big.

St. John's has had 1 (ONE) season of really high-level success so far. 

UConn is a blue blood but has a lower seed than Marquette this year. 

And you're talking about a negative trend for Marquette after 2 (TWO) seeds?  Also, typically one season does not constitute a trend. 

The Sultan

Quote from: Viper on March 18, 2025, 02:14:54 PMpast success doesn't necessarily guarantee future success. You can see the trend. Don't you agree that if it's status quo in terms of recruiting and retention, we'll ultimately end up with new steak knives at year end rather than Cadillacs. Some folks are ok with that.

Trend? They were a two seed just last year. Are you under the impression that programs don't ever take a step back?
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Viper on March 18, 2025, 02:14:54 PMpast success doesn't necessarily guarantee future success. You can see the trend. Don't you agree that if it's status quo in terms of recruiting and retention, we'll ultimately end up with new steak knives at year end rather than Cadillacs. Some folks are ok with that.

This is comical. 

Somehow one year of success for St. John's is clearly a guarantee of future success for them because they use the portal.

Yet ONE season for Marquette, where they were still comfortably in the tourney as a 7 seed, is somehow a trend, apparently because Shaka likely wont use the portal.

Really great stuff. 

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Viper on March 18, 2025, 02:14:54 PMpast success doesn't necessarily guarantee future success. You can see the trend. Don't you agree that if it's status quo in terms of recruiting and retention, we'll ultimately end up with new steak knives at year end rather than Cadillacs. Some folks are ok with that.

I'm not sure you took the right takeaways from Glengarry Glen Ross.
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