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Captain Quette

In re the roster numbers, shaka has to sit down with 1 or 2 players and say your not going to get minutes next year. It's in your best interests to look elsewhere, where you can play. Most likely not at a high D1 school. Just have an honest conversation. This happens every year at practically every d1 hoops program.

The Sultan

Quote from: Captain Quette on March 08, 2025, 09:37:02 AMIn re the roster numbers, shaka has to sit down with 1 or 2 players and say your not going to get minutes next year. It's in your best interests to look elsewhere, where you can play. Most likely not at a high D1 school. Just have an honest conversation. This happens every year at practically every d1 hoops program.

I'm sure Shaka would appreciate your advice on how to manage his roster.
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Viper

Quote from: The Sultan on March 08, 2025, 09:38:46 AMI'm sure Shaka would appreciate your advice on how to manage his roster.
why harpoon a guys legit comment?
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Viper

Quote from: BCHoopster on March 07, 2025, 06:45:55 PMNext year, you have 4 freshman coming in, then you have 4 kids that maybe are not up to this level, so that leaves 6 kids that are good but have some question marks?  How can you not want to add an experienced player?
stop making sense, damn it.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Viper on March 08, 2025, 09:51:56 AMwhy harpoon a guys legit comment?

Because don't you think that Shaka knows how to talk to players on his team? It's just an inane comment.
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Newsdreams

Seems people don't listen to Shaka interviews. He isn't against using the portal and he says he has contacted players, but if they don't fit the culture and first thing they ask is about NIL money, they're out. Simple as that, and in other instances they have decided to go elsewhere.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Newsdreams on March 08, 2025, 10:04:31 AMSeems people don't listen to Shaka interviews. He isn't against using the portal and he says he has contacted players, but if they don't fit the culture and first thing they ask is about NIL money, they're out. Simple as that, and in other instances they have decided to go elsewhere.

Exactly. This idea that he wouldn't take anyone and the roster is sacred or something just isn't accurate.
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willie warrior

Quote from: DoctorV on March 07, 2025, 08:13:22 PMCooper Flagg
Yeah, Flagg would be great but he is beyond Shakas reach.Lpoks like the savior for next year is Militec. Mo wait, what about the New Zealand Net Swisher?
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The Sultan

Quote from: willie warrior on March 08, 2025, 10:21:42 AMYeah, Flagg would be great but he is beyond Shakas reach.Lpoks like the savior for next year is Militec. Mo wait, what about the New Zealand Net Swisher?

Someone's mixing early.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: willie warrior on March 08, 2025, 10:21:42 AMYeah, Flagg would be great but he is beyond Shakas reach.Lpoks like the savior for next year is Militec. Mo wait, what about the New Zealand Net Swisher?
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DoctorV

Quote from: The Sultan on March 08, 2025, 10:25:26 AMSomeone's mixing early.

Haha Willie getting after it with the keg and eggs

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: willie warrior on March 08, 2025, 10:21:42 AMYeah, Flagg would be great but he is beyond Shakas reach.Lpoks like the savior for next year is Militec. Mo wait, what about the New Zealand Net Swisher?

If you need a new name, what you came up with is weak. How about Kiwi Klunker?
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on March 08, 2025, 08:56:58 AMWhy not? We were supposed to have a frontcourt player with a year of experience off the bench in Amadou. We don't.

It doesn't seem like the plan was for Sean to redshirt. Had Shaka known, might he have been more aggressive in the portal? Maybe. Could they have made a difference? Maybe. We don't know for sure. Again, we don't have a backup big with experience. I don't see how one could just dismiss the possibility of that helping.

Why? We're talking about backups. The guys in front of them didn't graduate, they got hurt and/or didn't pan out. Their position on the depth chart wouldn't change, just the guy in front of them would. Disingenuous would be recruiting over a guy like Zaide who's in line to start next year.

Why not?  Shaka knows more than anyone that you can't always predict someone's development and when they will be able to contribute at a meaningful level.  And having 15 scholarships and the ability to redshirt someone means you thought it was worth sticking with Al.  I also don't think not having a backup big with experience has really made much of a difference - Jop and Kam going cold from 3 has been the biggest issue. 

Seriously?  You do realize that backups become starters or key rotation members, correct? It would be disingenuous because Shaka's approach and word carries the same weight regardless of it being a starter or a depth guy.  If you don't think guys would see through him taking different approaches based on that I'm not sure what to tell you. 

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Newsdreams on March 08, 2025, 10:04:31 AMSeems people don't listen to Shaka interviews. He isn't against using the portal and he says he has contacted players, but if they don't fit the culture and first thing they ask is about NIL money, they're out. Simple as that, and in other instances they have decided to go elsewhere.

Sure, and the reality is that the type of transfers people want here are most likely going to fall into that bucket. 

I also think with 15 roster spots he will be honest with guys.  But if a guy wants to stay anyway, I don't think Shaka would have any issue with that. 

Small Orange Soda

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 08, 2025, 11:02:51 AMWhy not?  Shaka knows more than anyone that you can't always predict someone's development and when they will be able to contribute at a meaningful level.  And having 15 scholarships and the ability to redshirt someone means you thought it was worth sticking with Al.  I also don't think not having a backup big with experience has really made much of a difference - Jop and Kam going cold from 3 has been the biggest issue. 

Seriously?  You do realize that backups become starters or key rotation members, correct? It would be disingenuous because Shaka's approach and word carries the same weight regardless of it being a starter or a depth guy.  If you don't think guys would see through him taking different approaches based on that I'm not sure what to tell you. 

According to folks on this site, Amadou is viewed as a wing now, so regardless of the redshirt or not, that's a hole in frontcourt. I'm not talking about guys who are improving over time, I'm talking about guys like Itejere and Amadou who we now know aren't going to fill the spots they took up. That's when you replace them with guys who are at the level you planned on them being at.

And there's a difference between a guy on the depth chart moving up because someone ahead of him was lost due to an unforeseen circumstance (transfer, injury) and a foreseen one (graduation).

jesmu84

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 08, 2025, 11:05:35 AMSure, and the reality is that the type of transfers people want here are most likely going to fall into that bucket. 

I also think with 15 roster spots he will be honest with guys.  But if a guy wants to stay anyway, I don't think Shaka would have any issue with that. 

This is the most important point re: transfers

willie warrior

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 08, 2025, 10:54:50 AMIf you need a new name, what you came up with is weak. How about Kiwi Klunker?
Yes, that is better
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MU82

If only Shaka would read threads like this, we'd be Final Four locks every year.

But he doesn't, so it's time to find a coach who will pay more attention to anonymous fanboard folks.
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PointWarrior

Quote from: tower912 on March 07, 2025, 10:50:38 AMI trust Shaka.  If he is able to retain the 14 players currently on scholarship or on the way for next season, and thinks that he and the coaching staff can turn them into a good team, I trust him.
   If there are unexpected departures and he finds a player in the portal that meets his criteria, I trust him.

Need bigs and shooters.  Else we are playing for 5th place in the BE. 

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 08, 2025, 07:05:52 PMNeed bigs and shooters.  Else we are playing for 5th place in the BE. 

And then maybe we're playing for a conference title the following season.

I'm so sorry this brutal season has been so rough on you.

wadesworld

Quote from: PointWarrior on March 08, 2025, 07:05:52 PMNeed bigs and shooters.  Else we are playing for 5th place in the BE. 

We're tied for fourth. And that's been the second worst finish in Shaka's time here, behind his first year when he had to remake the roster.

willie warrior

Quote from: wadesworld on March 08, 2025, 07:21:58 PMWe're tied for fourth. And that's been the second worst finish in Shaka's time here, behind his first year when he had to remake the roster.
What about all that roster development theory. Where does that fit in?
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wadesworld

Quote from: willie warrior on March 08, 2025, 08:19:22 PMWhat about all that roster development theory. Where does that fit in?

Hard to develop a roster when you were coaching at a different school.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: wadesworld on March 08, 2025, 07:21:58 PMWe're tied for fourth. And that's been the second worst finish in Shaka's time here, behind his first year when he had to remake the roster.

Great, 4th (seeded fifth) in a five bid (hopefully) league, 2-6 against the top 4, with the wins coming in December when both opponents were short handed. It is possible we'll go into the post season unranked. Is that what you expected when we entered January?
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Newsdreams

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 08, 2025, 08:27:54 PMGreat, 4th (seeded fifth) in a five bid (hopefully) league, 2-6 against the top 4, with the wins coming in December when both opponents were short handed. It is possible we'll go into the post season unranked. Is that what you expected when we entered January?
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