2025 Transfer Portal

[Billy Hoyle]

You think that Shaka thinks it's about being holy and good and better than others?

I didn't say Shaka does and don't know if he does. What is said is that a faction of our fanbase does as demonstrated in this thread.

[We R Final Four]

I think you know what is wrong with what you are suggesting.

[The Sultan]

Man, our fanbase has some major ND and Bucky elitist attitudes going regarding transfers. What's wrong with seeing that there is a weak spot and looking to improve it? What if Shaka had decided Kam was better at the two and brought in Bennett Stirtz or J.P. Pegues to run the point, or realized we needed a true big to replace Oso and brought in Viktor Lahkin or Tarris Reed, Jr? Would that have been a betrayal of all that is holy and good about Marquette basketball, even if it resulted in a Sweet 16 run?

Nothing. I would be supportive. Just like I'm supporting his decision not to.

[tower912]

I think the portal is a tool, not a panacea.  I think if Shaka had used it extensively and had the exact same results that he has had during his first 4 years at MU, my satisfaction level would be exactly the same.
  If there had been a mass exodus and Shaka had gone into the portal and assembled this exact roster, my opinion would be the same.   Young, with lots of upside.
 

[Hards Alumni]

Man, our fanbase has some major ND and Bucky elitist attitudes going regarding transfers. What's wrong with seeing that there is a weak spot and looking to improve it? What if Shaka had decided Kam was better at the two and brought in Bennett Stirtz or J.P. Pegues to run the point, or realized we needed a true big to replace Oso and brought in Viktor Lahkin or Tarris Reed, Jr? Would that have been a betrayal of all that is holy and good about Marquette basketball, even if it resulted in a Sweet 16 run?

I don't think anyone is saying, "Shaka shouldn't use the portal". 

[TallTitan34]

Man, our fanbase has some major ND and Bucky elitist attitudes going regarding transfers.

I don't think there has been a single person who has said they are against taking a transfer.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I like how Shaka is doing it and he's more than earned the right to continue with this approach.  I'm also not anti-portal if Shaka wanted or needed to use it. 

What continually frustrates me is most of the people who really think he should be using the portal much more consistently don't acknowledge the potential risks and negatives of going that route, which are numerous. 

[panda2.0]

I like how Shaka is doing it and he's more than earned the right to continue with this approach.  I'm also not anti-portal if Shaka wanted or needed to use it. 

What continually frustrates me is most of the people who really think he should be using the portal much more consistently don't acknowledge the potential risks and negatives of going that route, which are numerous. 

What are the risks going into the season without a back up point guard or any front line depth?

Is it losing to just about any team with a pulse from January and on?

[muwarrior69]

We haven't had the same financial resources as the large football schools for a long time. If ever.

Then why is our AD asking for financial support in this new environment?

[The Sultan]

Then why is our AD asking for financial support in this new environment?

Why wouldn't he?

[Uncle Rico]

Why wouldn't he?

I don't think athletic departments should ask for charity.

[Zog from Margo]

What are the risks going into the season without a back up point guard or any front line depth?

Is it losing to just about any team with a pulse from January and on?

Which PG should they have gotten to come off the bench as a backup?

[SaveOD238]

I like how Shaka is doing it and he's more than earned the right to continue with this approach.  I'm also not anti-portal if Shaka wanted or needed to use it. 

What continually frustrates me is most of the people who really think he should be using the portal much more consistently don't acknowledge the potential risks and negatives of going that route, which are numerous. 

I feel the same way about folks who think that the Shaka method of recruit, retain, and develop is ideal, but consistently don't acknowledge the potential risks and negatives of going that route.

The answer is somewhere in the middle.  Recruit talented HS players, develop them, and supplement them with talented transfers to fill needs.  Not OR, AND.

That's what Shaka did in Year 1 and Year 2.  Year 3 we didn't have glaring needs so the retain and develop strategy was effective.  Year 4 was proof that you need BOTH.

I knew we had a heck of a talented roster coming back last year and retained them all (WIN), but without Sean Jones it was painfully obvious we needed to fill a hole at PG and we didn't (LOSS).

We have some talented players coming back next year that form a strong core and should develop (WIN), but there's questions up front and again at PG.  Right now it looks like we're taking a LOSS in that area.

Either way, both are necessary, and I don't know why it's so hard for folks on both sides to grasp that.

[panda2.0]

Which PG should they have gotten to come off the bench as a backup?

There were over 2,000 players in the portal last year.

The opportunity is there but the want to isn't. Which is too bad given our struggles in the second half of the season.

[The Sultan]

There were over 2,000 players in the portal last year.

The opportunity is there but the want to isn't. Which is too bad given our struggles in the second half of the season.

So, in other words, you have no idea who he should have recruited.

[MU82]

What are the risks going into the season without a back up point guard or any front line depth?

We have a backup point guard - largely because one of them did not transfer, despite rumors to the contrary - and we have front line depth.

Is it losing to just about any team with a pulse from January and on?

We'll see. That's why they play the games.

You seem to believe that players don't improve and that what happened one year is a guarantee that it will happen again the following season. Which explains why you agreed with Big East coaches that Marquette would finish in 9th place in 2022-23.

[panda2.0]

So, in other words, you have no idea who he should have recruited.

I'm not the one recruiting lol.

So, in other words, you have no idea who he should have recruited.

Kick rocks buddy

[muwarrior69]

Why wouldn't he?

If we have the financial support, why write the letter?

[panda2.0]

We have a backup point guard - largely because one of them did not transfer, despite rumors to the contrary - and we have front line depth.

We'll see. That's why they play the games.

You seem to believe that players don't improve and that what happened one year is a guarantee that it will happen again the following season. Which explains why you agreed with Big East coaches that Marquette would finish in 9th place in 2022-23.

Who was our back up pg last year?

What depth did we have on the front line?




I see major gaps in the roster coupled with low ceiling players in those spots. Hamilton is not a high major player and neither is Norman. Gold isn't a center and is forced to play that role. Sean jones hasn't played basketball in two years.

The roster has talent but also has very clear flaws. Not supplementing the current roster with an addition or two puts a low ceiling on this team.

[The Sultan]

If we have the financial support, why write the letter?

When did I say we had the financial support?

[The Sultan]

I'm not the one recruiting lol.

Huh.

Kick rocks buddy

You can't handle when I use simple logic to derail your bad arguments. It hurts I know.

[panda2.0]

Huh.

You can't handle when I use simple logic to derail your bad arguments. It hurts I know.

Every program in the country takes transfers in all types of roles.

It's naive to think Marquette can't attract a certain need if they were to acknowledge the need.

[Markusquette]

I feel the same way about folks who think that the Shaka method of recruit, retain, and develop is ideal, but consistently don't acknowledge the potential risks and negatives of going that route.

The answer is somewhere in the middle.  Recruit talented HS players, develop them, and supplement them with talented transfers to fill needs.  Not OR, AND.

That's what Shaka did in Year 1 and Year 2.  Year 3 we didn't have glaring needs so the retain and develop strategy was effective.  Year 4 was proof that you need BOTH.

I knew we had a heck of a talented roster coming back last year and retained them all (WIN), but without Sean Jones it was painfully obvious we needed to fill a hole at PG and we didn't (LOSS).

We have some talented players coming back next year that form a strong core and should develop (WIN), but there's questions up front and again at PG.  Right now it looks like we're taking a LOSS in that area.

Either way, both are necessary, and I don't know why it's so hard for folks on both sides to grasp that.

This. Don't be stubborn and too prideful to use the transfer portal to supplement the roster accordingly. Unless a coach is consistently pulling in top-tier talent out of high school I think there are more potential risks to avoiding the portal altogether.

[Hards Alumni]

If we have the financial support, why write the letter?

More is better than less.

[Zog from Margo]

Every program in the country takes transfers in all types of roles.

It's naive to think Marquette can't attract a certain need if they were to acknowledge the need.

Joe Chartouny? I think you underestimate how difficult it would be to recruit a player to come off the bench for a season and then, the following season, have to compete with three others at the same position for time.