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Shooter McGavin

He's either going to be really right or really wrong. 

JakeBarnes

Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: tower912 on April 22, 2025, 06:11:39 PMWhat leads you to say that?  You don't believe the NIL organization associated with Kentucky has that kind of money?  You don't believe the USC organization would spend that kind of money?  Or do you think all of the NIL money reports are fiction?

Hes being pedantic. Part of his schtick is calling any report that says "SCHOOL is paying PLAYER X dollars" fake news because that is currently against NCAA rules. He's well aware what people mean but it makes him happy
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


tower912

Probably.  I wanted to see if perhaps he had insight that all of the NIL numbers being reported are rubbish.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: Viper on April 22, 2025, 07:09:35 PMback from a Rocky ruler-across-the-hands slap. Miss me? Tower, wake up. No holes to fill? A roster of mediocrity and no holes to fill? Swap out the entire dang roster!! No holes to fill? You can't be serious???? Gonna run with returnees and 3star HS boys? Should go well vs StJ's. Talk about absurd. Mediocrity is smacking you upside the noggan. Wake up!

Even the Scoopiest mopes have stopped short of saying Shaka should tell everyone to hit the highway and bring in 15 new players from the portal.

I like it!
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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on April 22, 2025, 08:59:54 PMEven the Scoopiest mopes have stopped short of saying Shaka should tell everyone to hit the highway and bring in 15 new players from the portal.

I like it!

His suggestions dovetail nicely with the Lizzie Borden method of problem solving that is very much in vogue. How did Shaka miss being whacked?
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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DoctorV

Quote from: MU82 on April 22, 2025, 08:59:54 PMEven the Scoopiest mopes have stopped short of saying Shaka should tell everyone to hit the highway and bring in 15 new players from the portal.

I like it!

I mean, name one player who should stay?

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: DoctorV on April 22, 2025, 09:49:31 PMI mean, name one player who should stay?

Name one player that shouldn't.
VIOLENCE!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on April 22, 2025, 08:59:54 PMEven the Scoopiest mopes have stopped short of saying Shaka should tell everyone to hit the highway and bring in 15 new players from the portal.

I like it!

To be fair, he argued passionately about Tyler Kolek not playing in the NBA.  He knows ball
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The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 23, 2025, 06:36:36 AMTo be fair, he argued passionately about Tyler Kolek not playing in the NBA.  He knows ball

His brother in law is in his head.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

MU82

Quote from: DoctorV on April 22, 2025, 09:49:31 PMI mean, name one player who should stay?

I said that I like it. Cut 'em all. After all, that's how Florida and UConn won the 3 championships in the portal/NIL era, by cutting every player on their rosters and bringing in whole new groups annually. And look at all the success St. John's had in the 2025 NCAA Tournament - we want that for Marquette!

The problem is that Shaka obviously doesn't know how to identify good players, nor has he shown he has any ability at all to develop players. So maybe it doesn't matter what we do.

Marquette's powers-that-be might as well take our program to the Horizon League. Or D2.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

muwarrior69

Quote from: MU82 on April 23, 2025, 10:18:35 AMI said that I like it. Cut 'em all. After all, that's how Florida and UConn won the 3 championships in the portal/NIL era, by cutting every player on their rosters and bringing in whole new groups annually. And look at all the success St. John's had in the 2025 NCAA Tournament - we want that for Marquette!

The problem is that Shaka obviously doesn't know how to identify good players, nor has he shown he has any ability at all to develop players. So maybe it doesn't matter what we do.

Marquette's powers-that-be might as well take our program to the Horizon League. Or D2.

I get the sarcasm. I want the program to succeed as much as anyone. I may not see it but there might be a point where the University will just see that it is not financially feasible to compete at the D1 level like they did for football back in 1960. If you cannot compete for a championship what is the point. We don't even know if the tournament will be around in its present format after 2032. I admire your optimism.

MDMU04

Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 23, 2025, 11:22:02 AMIf you cannot compete for a championship what is the point.

Don't mean to be snarky at all...how do you define competing for a championship? Can you provide measurable criteria for this?
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tower912

So, any MU related surprises so far in regards to the portal?   Only losing one seems like a win.  Does anyone think MU lands a more talented replacement for Amadou?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jay Bee

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 22, 2025, 08:38:37 PMHes being pedantic. Part of his schtick is calling any report that says "SCHOOL is paying PLAYER X dollars" fake news because that is currently against NCAA rules. He's well aware what people mean but it makes him happy

#FakeNews #Lies

When someone says, "Rice gets $3M from USC", what do you believe that means? I'm not just saying, 'no, USC can't give the player any $'.. I'm saying I don't believe the number and my question is: What is the basis for the figure?

A contract? Between what parties? Nope, don't think that's it.

Is it someone at USC telling the player and/or their agent, 'we will find a way to make sure you get around $3M'?? Is it someone at USC saying, 'we have talked to the folks at collective X, and they have assured us they are committed to getting you $3M"??

What does "Rice gets $3M from USC" mean? It's b.s. What is the source, what is the basis?

Clearly there are many issues around cheating, tax status, etc... but I'm not even getting into that -- I'm just saying these 'reports' are based on b.s.

Will we see in the future kids pissed -- who either sit out or transfer - because what "they got" didn't turn out to be what they actually got? I think we already have seen that.

It's an ugly situation, but I can be settled if there's a yearly release of a great college bball video game. Then they can do whatever nonsense they want.

But I'm certainly not going to parrot dipsh1ts claiming certain dollar amounts. It's nonsense.

Anyway, was thinking about what's one of the next dumb things to happen.. after seeing all these guys with exhausted competition eligibility telling admins at their school that they want to be added to the transfer portal. lol

...it's a bit scary, and ugly, but I think it can happen and I'm not sure it's a bad argument from the kids' perspective:

Despite most saying, 'the portal closes on x date', it's not closed. The 30-day notification window closes... that's it. There are tons of kids with no certain home at this point and many months to decide.

I think we will see kids demanding they be allowed immediate eligibility despite entering the portal outside of the notification window. The days of 'student-athlete' and worrying about their studies first is out the window. The days of committing to an institution are largely done. So, 'protecting the student' arguments are weaker than they ever have been.

Scenario: School X as of today has a lineup you can reasonably project. Player A is looking forward to big minutes at point guard. Then, in June.. or May, July, August, etc... School X finds a player they like in the portal who finally agrees to come to their school. Player A is looking at intense competition, and fears they will struggle to get playing time now after this June transfer. At this point, they would not be eligible for the vanilla no-year-in-residence requirement. But, they are kinda eff'd by the transfer system setup and what their school did well after the notification window closed. 

...or you will have a Player A who decides in July they want more money.. and makes up an excuse of some low level transfer that occurred in June... as their reason they may want to leave. They tell School X 'gimme the loot'... and explore other options. They find a different home in July, and raise holy hell with the NCAA demanding immediate eligibility.

Ugly, ugly stuff.

But anyway, the "oh yeah he got $3M"... if someone knows the basis and why that's reasonable to accept as fact, let me know.

The portal is NOT closed.

DoctorV

Quote from: tower912 on April 23, 2025, 11:59:36 AMSo, any MU related surprises so far in regards to the portal?  Only losing one seems like a win.  Does anyone think MU lands a more talented replacement for Amadou?

Is it too late for Ben to declare for the NBA Draft?

It seems like Shaka could add a late front court player, but it sounds like a HS reclass is most likely. So more talented, but not experienced like a portal guy would be.

Viper

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 23, 2025, 12:41:45 AMName one player that shouldn't.
I'll start w/Tre. Move on to Caedin. Want another?
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Jay Bee

Quote from: DoctorV on April 23, 2025, 12:51:27 PMIs it too late for Ben to declare for the NBA Draft?

It is not.
The portal is NOT closed.

BCHoopster

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 23, 2025, 12:56:03 PMIt is not.

Does any one really think Ben is ready for the NBA? 

tower912

Not at the moment.   I can still see it, though.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 23, 2025, 01:08:28 PMDoes any one really think Ben is ready for the NBA? 


Does anyone really think that every player who has declared for the draft over the years has been ready for the NBA?

Fact is, few are "ready" - at least as most of us might define it. I mean, two players drafted in the top 6 last year (Reed Sheppard and Tidjane Salaun) were nowhere near "ready," as their lack of PT with their NBA teams showed. Vander Blue not only wasn't "ready," but he also had no indication that he'd even be drafted, but he still declared for the draft.

Guys who aren't ready declare for all kinds of reasons - some get bad advice, some misinterpret NBA teams' interest in them, some are simply done with the college experience, etc.

I have absolutely no reason to think Gold will leave Marquette this summer for the NBA or any other pro league. I'd be quite surprised if he did - and bummed, too, because we need him. But is it out of the realm of possibility? I suppose not.
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MU82

2,499 D-I men's basketball players entered the 2025 transfer portal, which opened on March 24 and closed on Tuesday, according to Verbal Commits.

That number represents roughly 45% of the total players on rosters last season (5,607). It's also a 20% increase over last year's portal entries (2,083) and a whopping 161% increase over the 957 entries in 2019, the year the portal was introduced.

‌Portal entries by year:

2025: 2,499
2024: 2,083
2023: 1,724
2022: 1,650
2021: 1,653
2020: 967
2019: 957

Meanwhile, on the women's side... 1,468 D-I players entered the portal this cycle (per On3), which represents 29% of the total women's players on rosters last season (5,048).
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

79Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on April 23, 2025, 11:59:36 AMSo, any MU related surprises so far in regards to the portal?  Only losing one seems like a win.  Does anyone think MU lands a more talented replacement for Amadou?

Pretty sure the current roster is what will be in Fiserv this November.

tower912

With roughly 25% of players exhausting their eligibility, that means 70% of 24-25 players will not be playing for the same school next season. 

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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