2025 Transfer Portal

[Hards Alumni]

The root of the discussion was the options of players going into last season so that is the correct list.

Either way, my point remains. If a coach at a successful program wants to find a player to improve their roster, it isn't hard to find. You need to be able to sell yourself, the program and the opportunity. Declining to do that puts a natural ceiling on your W/L record.

[panda2.0]

You should probably use the list for the correct year when giving recruiting advice.

Once again it actually is the correct list. We were discussing the roster makeup going into last season. Nice try though

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I feel the same way about folks who think that the Shaka method of recruit, retain, and develop is ideal, but consistently don't acknowledge the potential risks and negatives of going that route.

The answer is somewhere in the middle.  Recruit talented HS players, develop them, and supplement them with talented transfers to fill needs.  Not OR, AND.

That's what Shaka did in Year 1 and Year 2.  Year 3 we didn't have glaring needs so the retain and develop strategy was effective.  Year 4 was proof that you need BOTH.

I knew we had a heck of a talented roster coming back last year and retained them all (WIN), but without Sean Jones it was painfully obvious we needed to fill a hole at PG and we didn't (LOSS).

We have some talented players coming back next year that form a strong core and should develop (WIN), but there's questions up front and again at PG.  Right now it looks like we're taking a LOSS in that area.

Either way, both are necessary, and I don't know why it's so hard for folks on both sides to grasp that.

One or two seasons isn't proof of anything. 

[Zog from Margo]

You're the type I can't stand working with on a team setting. Always focusing on the negative, avoiding any possible problem solving and avoiding any challenging situation because it goes against the status quo.

You've yet to demonstrate that your alternative was viable so I am sure you would not want me on your team.

I guess the bottom line of the portal panacea group is that Shaka is not a good enough recruiter. The team does not have enough talent. I am not sure why the sole focus is on the portal. There no doubt were better players in Europe. There were better freshmen playing somewhere. In fact, I have yet to see an MU team that could not have had better players. Even the national title team would have been better with Walter Davis. After watching Wojo for seven years, I am pretty content with Shaka. If you're not, just give up your season tickets to someone who is.

[TallTitan34]

Once again it actually is the correct list. We were discussing the roster makeup going into last season. Nice try though

Shaka - here is your shortlist. Work your coaching networks to find a player.

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/top/basketball/2024/?position=pg

[PointWarrior]

With the escalating NIL budgets by booster groups at other schools, it is time to think of MU as the Brewers or Packers and simply not expect any big buck free agent signing.

and expect similar results...

[The Sultan]

The root of the discussion was the options of players going into last season so that is the correct list.

[79Warrior]

and expect similar results...

Then pony up.

[drbob]

I guess everyone is gonna be happy with a top 50 team next year and a middle of the pack Big East standing. That looks like the ceiling for the team next year with the present roster construction. No inside game and no standout 3 point shooting threat. I'll be waiting to see the growth and development of Hamilton and Clark ! Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. (Doubt It)

[Vander Blue Man Group]

The root of the discussion was the options of players going into last season so that is the correct list.

Either way, my point remains. If a coach at a successful program wants to find a player to improve their roster, it isn't hard to find. You need to be able to sell yourself, the program and the opportunity. Declining to do that puts a natural ceiling on your W/L record.

I highly doubt having marginal upgrades to our PG and big man depth last season would have dramatically changed the outcome of the season. 

[tower912]

and expect similar results...

Playoffs every year, whiny fans?  Already there.

[Uncle Rico]

I guess everyone is gonna be happy with a top 50 team next year and a middle of the pack Big East standing. That looks like the ceiling for the team next year with the present roster construction. No inside game and no standout 3 point shooting threat. I'll be waiting to see the growth and development of Hamilton and Clark ! Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. (Doubt It)

No one is making you watch.  If it isn't going to make you happy, there are so many other things you can do to make yourself happy.  You've preconditioned yourself to expect the worst next year, so I would say, don't bother.  So many choices in life, don't limit yourself to things that make you sad like Marquette basketball

[wadesworld]

I guess everyone is gonna be happy with a top 50 team next year and a middle of the pack Big East standing. That looks like the ceiling for the team next year with the present roster construction. No inside game and no standout 3 point shooting threat. I'll be waiting to see the growth and development of Hamilton and Clark ! Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. (Doubt It)

Shaka has never shown an ability to take what looks like a mediocre (or bad) P5 roster and overachieve.  He could never be predicted to finish 9th in the BE and win the BE that season.  He could never match portal maestro Rick Pitino in winning a BE regular season and tourney title in year 2 of coaching at a BE program.  And when he does do those things, it's unacceptable if he loses in the second round.  Rick would have that team rolling to the FF.

You're right to doubt that a roster with no portal additions under Shaka will see player improvement.

[MU82]

I guess everyone is gonna be happy with a top 50 team next year and a middle of the pack Big East standing. That looks like the ceiling for the team next year with the present roster construction. No inside game and no standout 3 point shooting threat. I'll be waiting to see the growth and development of Hamilton and Clark ! Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. (Doubt It)

Yeah, in Shaka's 4 lousy years at Marquette, not one player has improved under his watch to become any good.

[Uncle Rico]

Nick Janowski transfers to St. Thomas.  Another Shaka green weenie

[panda2.0]

Is that not a list of transfers available going into last season?

[panda2.0]

I highly doubt having marginal upgrades to our PG and big man depth last season would have dramatically changed the outcome of the season. 

A competent big man moves gold to the wing and a back up point guard relegates Norman to mop up duty and allows Kam to play off the ball a bit more. 

More depth allows us compete more on the glass as well as more competent players. I'm not sure how you argue against this given our Wojo esque collapse in the second half of the season.

[tower912]

A competent big man moves gold to the wing and a back up point guard relegates Norman to mop up duty and allows Kam to play off the ball a bit more. 

More depth allows us compete more on the glass as well as more competent players. I'm not sure how you argue against this given our Wojo esque collapse in the second half of the season.

No open slots after Clark was signed.

[panda2.0]

No open slots after Clark was signed.

True - and I'm on record saying it's a waste of a scholarship.

[drbob]

No one is making you watch.  If it isn't going to make you happy, there are so many other things you can do to make yourself happy.  You've preconditioned yourself to expect the worst next year, so I would say, don't bother.  So many choices in life, don't limit yourself to things that make you sad like Marquette basketball

.                                         I probably love MU basketball more than you. Almost 60 years worth.  Sorry if I strive to see them attain more success than you seem satisfied with.  There are obvious weaknesses going into next year. I will root as always but will wish for more.

[avid1010]

Sorry if I strive to see them attain more success than you seem satisfied with.

I get so sick of this sh1t.  You clearly are the only fan that wants to win a championship.  I wish Shaka wanted it as badly as you. 

[drbob]

I am sure he does!

[We R Final Four]

True - and I'm on record saying it's a waste of a scholarship.

Maybe he will transfer......keep us posted.

[BCHoopster]

Maybe he will transfer......keep us posted.

Before he plays, Shaka has recruited 2 zero star players, Hamilton right now needs lots of improvement to even get quality minutes, Clark showed an ability to jump and dunk, but not sure about him either.  To say in 2500 kids there is not a big to help this team is ridiculous.  Shaka is just stubborn.  He's a smart dude, trying to figure out why he can not find a transfer, only thing I can think about this is he is expecting a big frosh class for 2025.

[We R Final Four]

Before he plays, Shaka has recruited 2 zero star players, Hamilton right now needs lots of improvement to even get quality minutes, Clark showed an ability to jump and dunk, but not sure about him either.  To say in 2500 kids there is not a big to help this team is ridiculous.  Shaka is just stubborn.  He's a smart dude, trying to figure out why he can not find a transfer, only thing I can think about this is he is expecting a big frosh class for 2025.

What are going do about it?
Continue to bitch all summer?